Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof

[Quickseller]

He could have just asked for a loan if he needed money and someone would have likely given him it,

I think it is pretty clear Bruno is not interested in repaying the $600 he was trying to get for his account, hence he listed it for sale.

The notion that someone should take out a loan they have no interest in repaying should be condemned. The same is true for those who lack the ability to repay a loan.

but this is exactly the issue because the same would still apply after the account changes hands and why it could have easily been abused.

If you can sell an account for $600 but can only borrow $400 against it's reputation, it would be irrational for the buyer to buy the account and subsequently take out a loan he has no intent on repaying.

A healthy and transparent market would make it easier for lenders to judge how much it would be safe to trust an account with via a no-collateral loan.

[jackg]

He could have just asked for a loan if he needed money and someone would have likely given him it,

I think it is pretty clear Bruno is not interested in repaying the $600 he was trying to get for his account, hence he listed it for sale.

The notion that someone should take out a loan they have no interest in repaying should be condemned. The same is true for those who lack the ability to repay a loan.

Well that's wrong, Bruno has already paid back suchmoon.

but this is exactly the issue because the same would still apply after the account changes hands and why it could have easily been abused.

If you can sell an account for $600 but can only borrow $400 against it's reputation, it would be irrational for the buyer to buy the account and subsequently take out a loan he has no intent on repaying.

A healthy and transparent market would make it easier for lenders to judge how much it would be safe to trust an account with via a no-collateral loan.

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You should already be able to predict the value for youself and set limits on what you'd lend to specific lenders based on their reputation(I have mine).

What if one of the staff gets fired and the business hires someone else to handle whatever the account was handling?

The identities of owners are generally private information (although they are sometimes voluntarily made public for a variety of reasons). If I am understanding you correctly, you believe this should be made public? 

If I make an account and make a PLC, LLC or LTD company, I have to list myself as the owner of the company. My account can then be traced back to that company and therefore someone can find all the shareholders/owners/directors of that company. That information is already public knowledge so you may as well link it to the account.

And NO, if the primary account holder (the CEO) changes, then it should be stated publicly somewhere - even if just a way to advertise the company as there's another thread with your company's name on it.

[hilariousetc]

He could have just asked for a loan if he needed money and someone would have likely given him it,

I think it is pretty clear Bruno is not interested in repaying the $600 he was trying to get for his account, hence he listed it for sale.

The notion that someone should take out a loan they have no interest in repaying should be condemned. The same is true for those who lack the ability to repay a loan.

Well that's wrong, Bruno has already paid back suchmoon.

He hasn't paid Darkstar back yet and I think QS is right on this one. Gleb clearly doesn't care about his accounts that much because he has a history of taking loans out on them and also not paying them back. The fact that he would try sell or borrow based on them and for so little says a lot about him to be honest and that's behaviour that I can't trust.

[suchmoon]

He could have just asked for a loan if he needed money and someone would have likely given him it,

I think it is pretty clear Bruno is not interested in repaying the $600 he was trying to get for his account, hence he listed it for sale.

The notion that someone should take out a loan they have no interest in repaying should be condemned. The same is true for those who lack the ability to repay a loan.

Well that's wrong, Bruno has already paid back suchmoon.

No he hasn't, I already replied to you on that subject, not sure why you keep repeating that?

Quicksy can't miss an opportunity to shill for account sales LOL.

[YuTü.Co.in]

Amazingly, all this started because I attempted to sell an account but changed my mind opting to go another route. Madness!

[pixie85]

Amazingly, all this started because I attempted to sell an account but changed my mind opting to go another route. Madness!

I guess people are afraid of trusted accounts getting into the wrong hands and we can't blame them. If your account got sold without anyone knowing about it, it could cause huge mess. Especially since nowadays painting someone red equals instant loss of payment and campaign spot if a person involved in paid posting.

[Quickseller]

but this is exactly the issue because the same would still apply after the account changes hands and why it could have easily been abused.

If you can sell an account for $600 but can only borrow $400 against it's reputation, it would be irrational for the buyer to buy the account and subsequently take out a loan he has no intent on repaying.

A healthy and transparent market would make it easier for lenders to judge how much it would be safe to trust an account with via a no-collateral loan.

You should already be able to predict the value for youself and set limits on what you'd lend to specific lenders based on their reputation(I have mine).

You may or may not be correct in the limits you set. Your limits may be too high, and you have simply been lucky in terms of your loan losses, or they may be too low, and you are missing out on potential interest income.

Other lenders may not come to the same conclusions as you have, and may not have sufficient information to be comfortable lending any amount without collateral.

I am fairly confident that accounts are still being traded, it is only that they are being done in a blackmarket type setting and prices are not public. Making this information public would give lenders additional data points when deciding to make a loan.

What if one of the staff gets fired and the business hires someone else to handle whatever the account was handling?

The identities of owners are generally private information (although they are sometimes voluntarily made public for a variety of reasons). If I am understanding you correctly, you believe this should be made public?  

If I make an account and make a PLC, LLC or LTD company, I have to list myself as the owner of the company. My account can then be traced back to that company and therefore someone can find all the shareholders/owners/directors of that company. That information is already public knowledge so you may as well link it to the account.

Why don't you tell me where I can find the names of the shareholders and directors of PrimeDice and Bitstamp LTD?

Before you spend too much time looking, I will start by telling you this information is not public, although some companies may choose to make some of it public.

And NO, if the primary account holder (the CEO) changes, then it should be stated publicly somewhere - even if just a way to advertise the company as there's another thread with your company's name on it.

Much of the time, the company account will not be used by the CEO. If you look at NitrogenSports's account, you will see it is clearly run by a team of customer service reps. Often times, business accounts are run by fairly low level employees, and their employment status is similarly often not public information.

Gleb clearly doesn't care about his accounts that much because he has a history of taking loans out on them and also not paying them back. The fact that he would try sell or borrow based on them and for so little says a lot about him to be honest and that's behaviour that I can't trust.

I can't speak to Bruno's situation specifically, as I do not know the underlying facts that caused him to sell his account. However, hypothetically speaking, if someone lost their job and is in need of money to pay rent, and to buy food, what would you suggest they do? Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a job, and government welfare programs will generally not cover the bills of someone who is unemployed, and especially will not do so indefinitely.

[jackg]

but this is exactly the issue because the same would still apply after the account changes hands and why it could have easily been abused.

If you can sell an account for $600 but can only borrow $400 against it's reputation, it would be irrational for the buyer to buy the account and subsequently take out a loan he has no intent on repaying.

A healthy and transparent market would make it easier for lenders to judge how much it would be safe to trust an account with via a no-collateral loan.

You should already be able to predict the value for youself and set limits on what you'd lend to specific lenders based on their reputation(I have mine).

You may or may not be correct in the limits you set. Your limits may be too high, and you have simply been lucky in terms of your loan losses, or they may be too low, and you are missing out on potential interest income.

Other lenders may not come to the same conclusions as you have, and may not have sufficient information to be comfortable lending any amount without collateral.

I am fairly confident that accounts are still being traded, it is only that they are being done in a blackmarket type setting and prices are not public. Making this information public would give lenders additional data points when deciding to make a loan.

What if one of the staff gets fired and the business hires someone else to handle whatever the account was handling?

The identities of owners are generally private information (although they are sometimes voluntarily made public for a variety of reasons). If I am understanding you correctly, you believe this should be made public? 

If I make an account and make a PLC, LLC or LTD company, I have to list myself as the owner of the company. My account can then be traced back to that company and therefore someone can find all the shareholders/owners/directors of that company. That information is already public knowledge so you may as well link it to the account.

Why don't you tell me where I can find the names of the shareholders and directors of PrimeDice and Bitstamp LTD?

Before you spend too much time looking, I will start by telling you this information is not public, although some companies may choose to make some of it public.

And NO, if the primary account holder (the CEO) changes, then it should be stated publicly somewhere - even if just a way to advertise the company as there's another thread with your company's name on it.

Much of the time, the company account will not be used by the CEO. If you look at NitrogenSports's account, you will see it is clearly run by a team of customer service reps. Often times, business accounts are run by fairly low level employees, and their employment status is similarly often not public information.

The CEO will be keeping an eye on how the employees use the account though.
The owner of primedice afaik is stunna, I'm not sure whether primedice is an incorporated entity and by business, I meant Incorporated entity. If you could find the documents to state this?

And I think I am pricing them a bit low but that makes the loan more secure. I also base my predicted amount on how much I know a user, for example, I increased my limit for a member of this forum a while back and he repayed me back - with a bit of a delay though but I still got everything back.


Sorry suchmoon, I read your post wrong earlier.

[suchmoon]

Sorry suchmoon, I read your post wrong earlier.

No problem, that's what I figured. Gleb Gamow account is still in my control until I say otherwise

[digaran]

No problem, that's what I figured. Gleb Gamow account is still in my control until I say otherwise

Good luck with getting your money back and good luck with having Gleb's negative trusts to be removed.  
BTW, I got tagged by don hilary's alt after I followed his example, I got triggered by his thread about Gleb changing email and pass so I posted a thread about marlboroza changing email, and don hilary tagged me. thanks don, remember you inspired me to go down that path.

[suchmoon]

No problem, that's what I figured. Gleb Gamow account is still in my control until I say otherwise

Good luck with getting your money back and good luck with having Gleb's negative trusts to be removed.  

You seem to be far more concerned about that than I am. It's unhealthy, give it up, move on to your next drama.

[Quickseller]

The CEO will be keeping an eye on how the employees use the account though.
The owner of primedice afaik is stunna, I'm not sure whether primedice is an incorporated entity and by business, I meant Incorporated entity. If you could find the documents to state this?

And I think I am pricing them a bit low but that makes the loan more secure. I also base my predicted amount on how much I know a user, for example, I increased my limit for a member of this forum a while back and he repayed me back - with a bit of a delay though but I still got everything back.

I am fairly certain that primedice is incorporated somewhere, I want to say Costa Rica, but I am not 100% sure. I do know that stunna is one of the owners but is not the only owner, and am fairly certain he is not even a majority owner. PD recently got a new CEO.

Bitstamp is an incorporated entity, specifically the name of the entity is "Bitstamp LTD" but I can assure you there is not public information about who its shareholders are, who ultimately make high level decisions regarding the business.

I have no idea if it you are appropriately pricing your loans, however as I previously said, if you are offering too small of loans, then you are missing out on interest income. I would find it hard to believe that, as a lender, you would not want to know what accounts are selling for so you can have more information about how much to lend to a particular user, and so a user who cannot repay what he is borrowing knows he has an alternative to taking out a loan from you. 

[suchmoon]

Bitstamp is an incorporated entity, specifically the name of the entity is "Bitstamp LTD" but I can assure you there is not public information about who its shareholders are, who ultimately make high level decisions regarding the business.

It's completely off topic as is your blatant shilling for account sales, but maybe this will make you go away:

[vit05]

Bitstamp is an incorporated entity, specifically the name of the entity is "Bitstamp LTD" but I can assure you there is not public information about who its shareholders are, who ultimately make high level decisions regarding the business.

It's completely off topic as is your blatant shilling for account sales, but maybe this will make you go away:

And the CEO has a negative Trust in BitcoinTalk.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=38966

[jackg]

The CEO will be keeping an eye on how the employees use the account though.
The owner of primedice afaik is stunna, I'm not sure whether primedice is an incorporated entity and by business, I meant Incorporated entity. If you could find the documents to state this?

And I think I am pricing them a bit low but that makes the loan more secure. I also base my predicted amount on how much I know a user, for example, I increased my limit for a member of this forum a while back and he repayed me back - with a bit of a delay though but I still got everything back.

I am fairly certain that primedice is incorporated somewhere, I want to say Costa Rica, but I am not 100% sure. I do know that stunna is one of the owners but is not the only owner, and am fairly certain he is not even a majority owner. PD recently got a new CEO.

Bitstamp is an incorporated entity, specifically the name of the entity is "Bitstamp LTD" but I can assure you there is not public information about who its shareholders are, who ultimately make high level decisions regarding the business.

I have no idea if it you are appropriately pricing your loans, however as I previously said, if you are offering too small of loans, then you are missing out on interest income. I would find it hard to believe that, as a lender, you would not want to know what accounts are selling for so you can have more information about how much to lend to a particular user, and so a user who cannot repay what he is borrowing knows he has an alternative to taking out a loan from you. 

You're missing the point here. Every account is slightly differen, previous trades, posting style and the length the person has been here is all that I rely on.

Bitstamp is an incorporated entity, specifically the name of the entity is "Bitstamp LTD" but I can assure you there is not public information about who its shareholders are, who ultimately make high level decisions regarding the business.

It's completely off topic as is your blatant shilling for account sales, but maybe this will make you go away:

You can now disappear from here QS thanks to suchmoon's discovery.

[InvoKing]

A typical bitcointalk topic!
Hey digaran can't you offer a free service to Gleb? (/s)
Time to lock maybe?

Edit :

Time to lock maybe?

This disucssion was over until you bumped it!

Do you think so? ok sorry SIR

[jackg]

A typical bitcointalk topic!
Hey digaran can't you offer a free service to Gleb? (/s)

We moved on to calming quickseller - away from digaran.

Time to lock maybe?

This disucssion was over until you bumped it!

[BTCforJoe]

Amazingly, all this started because I attempted to sell an account but changed my mind opting to go another route. Madness!

Is no one going to address this?

Bruno, the madness is that you never clearly explained what the situation was after this whole thing went down. You left it up for speculation, as can be seen in one of the multiple threads dedicated to this subject. You could have confirmed or denied any of the speculation, but you didn't; you posted a picture, which is good, but you still didn't address the hype while the hype was hyped. So, yeah. Madness.

[YuTü.Co.in]

Amazingly, all this started because I attempted to sell an account but changed my mind opting to go another route. Madness!

Is no one going to address this?

Bruno, the madness is that you never clearly explained what the situation was after this whole thing went down. You left it up for speculation, as can be seen in one of the multiple threads dedicated to this subject. You could have confirmed or denied any of the speculation, but you didn't; you posted a picture, which is good, but you still didn't address the hype while the hype was hyped. So, yeah. Madness.

I did confirm that the account was for sale at one time but nixxed that course of action with digaran insisting that I come clean as to who the buyer was when there wasn't one.

[digaran]

I did confirm that the account was for sale at one time but nixxed that course of action with digaran insisting that I come clean as to who the buyer was when there wasn't one.

Could you explain who was that garbage poster who posted with your account and tried to join chipmixer campaign with a non segwit address? you said on your AGLD account that you already sold a few low ranking accounts, who bought them? could you give us their names so that we could tag them as well? I am with second and third chances, I want to exonerate you the right way, confess to your past crimes and be free from all the charges.

If you never sold your account then why did you reset your password several times between the times of posting with AGLD account telling people that your legendary account was still available? why did you say that theymos helped you to get back your compromised accounts? did he really help you and without knowing it he also helped you to get back the accounts you sold already? or did you just lie to our faces?


Also I would like to ask you, what is your relationship with the fake Satoshi Craig Wright or whatever his name is? are you in bed with Bitcash cartel as well? these are the questions I like to know their answers.