Cean (OP)
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June 16, 2018, 01:43:20 AM |
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Months ago, when Merit system first launched, I was given over 50 merit automatically. I was browsing the local thread about Merit system and I saw someone whose nickname is Leonbtc, complaining about it.
I empathized his/her situation and sent 50 Merits to his unworthy post ONLY because I wanted. I absolutely do not know who is it and it certainly is not my alt account. I have said this before on that topic. Any staff can control. A trade is out of the question!
And yes, I might have abused the usage of Merits but that was NOT intended. Because, as it says on Merit page, there was no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it to myself had no benefits. So I just wanted to help someone.
I also did NOT ask for a return. He sent me those 18 Merit as a thanks, which is also wrong usage of Merits, indeed.
So what do I want? I want to get rid of that untrue negative score on my profile given by Lauda judging on an unfamiliar language using Google Translate. Because of this score, my forum reputation is damaged. Most importantly, it's also a hindrance in my work. A few people didn't want to work with me JUST because of that.
I wanted Lauda and the moderator in the local forum to remove this score. I didn't get a response from either of them. Finally, I wanted to announce my voice by creating this topic. I'm hoping to get a result...
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Cean (OP)
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June 16, 2018, 01:51:19 AM |
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And seeing this system is not being moderated, why is this? Aren't I free with my f*cking merits for the god sake? Why do people follow merit transactions of other people and take a record of them? Bullshit. Lauda and such people MUST mind their own business.
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BTCforJoe
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June 16, 2018, 02:44:48 AM |
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There's no need to get hostile about this. You can calmly present your case and intelligently explain what the situation is, and ask for other Default Trust members to review your claims. If it all makes sense and you have properly and legitimately convinced them that merit abuse wasn't a factor with the exchange of said merits, then I'm sure they could help you make a better case to the person who left you the negative feedback.
However, I will say that the merit activity truly does look suspicious; you're going to have a hell of a hard time trying to convince Lauda that this wasn't abuse of the merit system, if I'm being honest with my opinion.
But I am confident enough to tell you that by being hostile, that negative feedback isn't going to go anywhere.
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MainIbem
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June 16, 2018, 03:26:00 AM |
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And seeing this system is not being moderated, why is this? Aren't I free with my f*cking merits for the god sake? Why do people follow merit transactions of other people and take a record of them? Bullshit. Lauda and such people MUST mind their own business.
If the system is not moderated, you wouldn't be having this situation you are in now. Besides, the merit system has clear terms and conditions of usage. Emphaty is not a ground to award merits. And 50 merits at a time was too much even for Emphaty sake. You just have to plead for mercy.
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qwertyup23
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June 16, 2018, 03:53:27 AM |
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And seeing this system is not being moderated, why is this? Aren't I free with my f*cking merits for the god sake? Why do people follow merit transactions of other people and take a record of them? Bullshit. Lauda and such people MUST mind their own business.
If the system is not moderated, you wouldn't be having this situation you are in now. Besides, the merit system has clear terms and conditions of usage. Emphaty is not a ground to award merits. And 50 merits at a time was too much even for Emphaty sake. You just have to plead for mercy. Let's say you have a gun inside your pocket and you entered inside a police precinct for an appointment or anything whatsoever. Even if your intention was innocent and you have no means of using your gun, you still violated the law (bringing firearms inside a police precinct) thus you are sanctioned with the necessary penalty- Malum Prohibitum. There are clear and established rules regarding the utilization of merits and one of them is the prevention of abuse. Even if your intention was with good faith, you still violated the terms stated under the forum rules. Not to mention, giving 50 merits seems to be pretty shady and you have to prove your innocence with the moderators. Good luck!
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TheUltraElite
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Merit: 1322
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
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June 16, 2018, 07:13:01 AM |
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I wanted Lauda and the moderator in the local forum to remove this score. Trust given by a DT member has nothing to do with the moderators. Trust is not moderated and the only person who can remove the trust rating is the perosn who left it. You have no control over that and neither does any moderator/admin not even theymos. I didn't get a response from either of them. You wont. Did you even read the links which were posted in the feedback left by Lauda? Read them again and you will understand that exchanging merits or asking for merits is discouraged in the forum. Finally, I wanted to announce my voice by creating this topic. Waste of time and space. I'm hoping to get a result... Hope is a good thing but dont hope things that will never happen because you have already retaliated with another negative feedback on Lauda's wall.
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Cean (OP)
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June 16, 2018, 09:07:40 AM |
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I am pretty sure merits are not moderated (says on local thread made by local moderator)... After all, this score is still untrue and misleading because NO trade was made.
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johnwarren12
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June 16, 2018, 10:39:15 AM |
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Shit happens man...do some good trades and nullify the negative with positive
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KWH
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Merit: 1050
In Collateral I Trust.
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June 16, 2018, 10:40:27 AM |
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I am pretty sure merits are not moderated (says on local thread made by local moderator)... After all, this score is still untrue and misleading because NO trade was made.
Scams are not moderated either. Having a trade is not a prerequisite to leaving Trust.
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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Cean (OP)
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June 16, 2018, 10:57:44 AM |
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I am pretty sure merits are not moderated (says on local thread made by local moderator)... After all, this score is still untrue and misleading because NO trade was made.
Scams are not moderated either. Having a trade is not a prerequisite to leaving Trust. You don't get the point. This feedback is STILL false. I did NOT request anything (money/merits) in return even though that person sent me. But Lauda says we did a trade. I have a solution: Let's completely remove Merits of both or give back to their owners and Lauda remove this feedback.
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KWH
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Merit: 1050
In Collateral I Trust.
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June 16, 2018, 11:02:54 AM |
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I am pretty sure merits are not moderated (says on local thread made by local moderator)... After all, this score is still untrue and misleading because NO trade was made.
Scams are not moderated either. Having a trade is not a prerequisite to leaving Trust. You don't get the point. This feedback is STILL false. I did NOT request anything (money/merits) in return even though that person sent me. But Lauda says we did a trade. I have a solution: Let's completely remove Merits of both or give back to their owners and Lauda remove this feedback. I "get your point" but it does not matter. Lauda is the only one that can remove the rating. Get it now? Reading through your Trust left, you did not have any trades with them either? combeltga 2017-07-30 0.00000000 SPAM ACCOUNT. POTENTIAL SCAMMER. BE AWARE! Xmaseven 2017-08-10 0.00000000 Reference Solely bought to manage the scam project Snapshot. TeamSnapshot 2017-08-10 0.00000000 Reference Scam project Snapshot. Scammed 20K+ worth of Eth.
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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Cean (OP)
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June 16, 2018, 11:22:58 AM |
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Reading through your Trust left, you did not have any trades with them either?
combeltga 2017-07-30 0.00000000 SPAM ACCOUNT. POTENTIAL SCAMMER. BE AWARE! Xmaseven 2017-08-10 0.00000000 Reference Solely bought to manage the scam project Snapshot. TeamSnapshot 2017-08-10 0.00000000 Reference Scam project Snapshot. Scammed 20K+ worth of Eth.
In fact, they scammed me. Those are the accounts of ICO scammers. I translated their material for the bounty that I have never received. Get it now?
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KWH
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Merit: 1050
In Collateral I Trust.
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June 16, 2018, 11:25:52 AM |
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From: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.msg2221664#msg2221664I added a trust system to the marketplace sections. When you're logged in, you'll now see something like this next to Marketplace posts: Trust: 1: -0 / +12(3) The first number is the user's trust score calculated based on how consistently they've received positive feedback. Probably no one will get a score above 0 until the system has been around for at least a month. The second number is the number of reported scams. The third number increases with the number of positive reports, as does the fourth number in parenthesis, though the fourth number is more resistant to abuse. This text changes color depending on the score. Users with a negative score (attainable through scamming) get a red warning attached to their posts. These scores are taken from your trust network. They are not global scores. You can edit your trust network here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trustIf your trust depth is set to 2 (the default), you will trust feedback by people you trust, people they trust, and people they trust. I might change the default in the future; we'll see how this works. Your trust list is public. On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this, but here are some guidelines: - List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score. - Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts. - Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it. - "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting. - It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating. If your trust list is totally empty, you trust "DefaultTrust", which includes some trustworthy people that I'll select. But if you add anyone to your trust list, even if they don't trust anyone, DefaultTrust will no longer be considered part of your trust list. In the near future I'll add these same ratings to PMs. Tell me if you see any bugs. I didn't test this much yet.
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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KWH
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Activity: 1918
Merit: 1050
In Collateral I Trust.
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June 16, 2018, 11:27:00 AM |
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Reading through your Trust left, you did not have any trades with them either?
combeltga 2017-07-30 0.00000000 SPAM ACCOUNT. POTENTIAL SCAMMER. BE AWARE! Xmaseven 2017-08-10 0.00000000 Reference Solely bought to manage the scam project Snapshot. TeamSnapshot 2017-08-10 0.00000000 Reference Scam project Snapshot. Scammed 20K+ worth of Eth.
In fact, they scammed me. Those are the accounts of ICO scammers. I translated their material for the bounty that I have never received. Get it now? Obviously you don't get it now or ever. You have no clue how Trust works.
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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TheUltraElite
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Activity: 3010
Merit: 1322
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
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June 16, 2018, 12:32:09 PM |
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Obviously you don't get it now or ever. You have no clue how Trust works.
This was evident when they left a retaliatory feedback on Lauda's profile. Doing so only seals the fate of that account. OP can stop blabbering and trying to grab at illusions. The negative trust will never be removed in future.
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Vod
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Licking my boob since 1970
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June 25, 2018, 02:13:36 AM |
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This is definitely not fair. It needs to be kicked out of this fucking default trust group. I have never seen such abuse of a power.
You were trying to cheat the merit system - it such looks fair to me. The people who scream "abuse" the loudest are usually the ones that deserve it the most. :/
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https://vod.fan - fast/free image sharing - coming Oct! Will Theymos finish his $100,000,000 forum before this one shuts down?
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Cosette
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DAMN SON!
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June 25, 2018, 03:06:46 AM |
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what i get from that link is it must be the dowry for the marriage
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Cean (OP)
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June 25, 2018, 11:05:41 AM |
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This is definitely not fair. It needs to be kicked out of this fucking default trust group. I have never seen such abuse of a power.
You were trying to cheat the merit system - it such looks fair to me. The people who scream "abuse" the loudest are usually the ones that deserve it the most. :/ Are you kidding me? Did you ever check the thread? Just gtfo
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TMAN
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Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do
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June 25, 2018, 11:46:54 AM |
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I smell used tampon sweat..
why cheat then moan? best action is to not cheat at all in the 1st place.
Smelly used tampon Pajeet
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Cean (OP)
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June 25, 2018, 04:36:10 PM |
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Please stop shitposting on my thread. There is a serious situation here. From now on, only and only relevant people write to this thread. I have no time do deal with clowns.
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