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June 18, 2018, 08:33:28 AM
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I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.
But normally FJ users are facing issues while withdrawing big amounts but there is no such issues in the other sites so which maybe due to FJ is out of money.But they already mention that this is a procedure to save users from scammers but I don't think this maybe the reason for pending withdrawals.Decreasing the withdrawal limits everyday is may increase the doubt on that site.

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June 18, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
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I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.
But normally FJ users are facing issues while withdrawing big amounts but there is no such issues in the other sites so which maybe due to FJ is out of money.But they already mention that this is a procedure to save users from scammers but I don't think this maybe the reason for pending withdrawals.Decreasing the withdrawal limits everyday is may increase the doubt on that site.
I always kept saying that fj is a shit site they have stupid policies that generates lot's of income for the site but when someone wins huge they are just silent and don't want to pay the user. I don't understand why the stupid owner even has green trust, this site is worse than sportsbet.io atleast they pay some people this site never pays anyone

Also anyone noticed no one from the fj signature campaign users have replied, wierd as normally they defend this shit it looks like even they know now that fj is a scam Roll Eyes

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June 18, 2018, 08:26:25 PM
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First think congregations to your big won but sadness is you are unable to withdrawal that amount, I think you already raised the request about this issue but still not solved wait some more time still same issue place opens scam accusations about this issue, few day back I also faced some issue with some other betting site.

 
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June 18, 2018, 09:06:49 PM
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I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.
But normally FJ users are facing issues while withdrawing big amounts but there is no such issues in the other sites so which maybe due to FJ is out of money.But they already mention that this is a procedure to save users from scammers but I don't think this maybe the reason for pending withdrawals.Decreasing the withdrawal limits everyday is may increase the doubt on that site.
I always kept saying that fj is a shit site they have stupid policies that generates lot's of income for the site but when someone wins huge they are just silent and don't want to pay the user. I don't understand why the stupid owner even has green trust, this site is worse than sportsbet.io atleast they pay some people this site never pays anyone

Also anyone noticed no one from the fj signature campaign users have replied, wierd as normally they defend this shit it looks like even they know now that fj is a scam Roll Eyes
Just wait for those signature campaign defenders to find out this post and defend the site itself. For now there are some words which i dont really agree about. They arent a scam site, there might be some delays but still they do able to handle it out, the main issue on here is the delay on how they do processed out winnings which is different into other sites when a player won then withdrawals processed automatically without any drama and this is the thing FJ dont have.
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June 18, 2018, 09:41:57 PM
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Was told a manager will process my withdraws today. Still nothing, no reply. Ongoing for a week now.
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June 18, 2018, 09:42:54 PM
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I don't think that is a standard time either, we all love to go online gambling because of the supposed anonymity and fast withdrawals.
One issue that doesn't get raised, but should be looked at with delays that long, is volatility and market movements.
Cryptocurrencies are known to both move fast and drastically.
Delaying withdrawals several months could possibly cause considerable financial damage to the player, as they are forced to hold onto their coins a casino is keeping hostage.

If we take the two cases I brought up, this didn't directly happen, as:
3BTC on Oct 26th were $17,664 and on Feb 19th were $31,188  //  5.7BTC in early Oct were $25,194 and on Jan 17th were $63,503
But in both cases, the users were unable to sell any of those coins during the spike in early January (where they would have been worth $59,157 or $112,398),
as FJ made the decision for them to hodl because FJ delayed the requested withdrawals without any reason to.

However, if the timing of these delays had been any different (eg someone requesting a withdrawal in early January and waiting until March/April for it to be processed),
they could have done siginficant financial damage (at least in USD terms, obviously not in [btc terms) to them simply by not processing their withdrawals in an acceptable timeframe.



Its rare for Lutpin to give his side with this kind of issue but at least he has given the OP at least some hope that he will eventually get his winnings, but it will took a lot of time so the OP needs a lot of patience.
I tend to steer clear of threads like this due to my public affiliation with CG. People like to question my intentions/integrity, instead of the points I raise. Probably because the first one is easier to refute than the latter.
What I did (and intended to do) was citing a few past cases that are comparable to this one, in the hope to give OP some peace of mind.


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June 19, 2018, 09:52:40 AM
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I tend to steer clear of threads like this due to my public affiliation with CG. People like to question my intentions/integrity, instead of the points I raise. Probably because the first one is easier to refute than the latter.
What I did (and intended to do) was citing a few past cases that are comparable to this one, in the hope to give OP some peace of mind.

Even a layman would agree that the points raised by Lutpin are true and valid points, like he pointed out and I'll also agree never seen him saying things he doesn't mean or just to support a signature he's known to spoke his mind and after seeing the cases it's reassuring that the op will be paid but then the value he'll receive as and when he receives is a major scare here. I would consider this a exceptional case as we're not talking of some hundreds but it's 2k ltc FJ should settle this or at least make a proper statement saying this will be ended in -- amount of days.

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June 19, 2018, 10:11:59 AM
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Was told a manager will process my withdraws today. Still nothing, no reply. Ongoing for a week now.
It's been a day, do you have any updates if they are able to process your remaining balances and concern?



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June 19, 2018, 10:50:15 AM
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Was told a manager will process my withdraws today. Still nothing, no reply. Ongoing for a week now.
It's been a day, do you have any updates if they are able to process your remaining balances and concern?

Nothing , not even an email.
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June 19, 2018, 11:49:50 AM
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Was told a manager will process my withdraws today. Still nothing, no reply. Ongoing for a week now.
It's been a day, do you have any updates if they are able to process your remaining balances and concern?

Nothing , not even an email.
Did you remind them today on what they are about to do with your concern? I have used them before and they are very responsive.



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June 19, 2018, 11:55:11 AM
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Was told a manager will process my withdraws today. Still nothing, no reply. Ongoing for a week now.
It's been a day, do you have any updates if they are able to process your remaining balances and concern?

Nothing , not even an email.
Did you remind them today on what they are about to do with your concern? I have used them before and they are very responsive.

The FJ representative (David if I remember it correctly unless there was a change from FJ) was online today but he was not even replying any threads related to this accusation. I wonder if justpoor88 has tried to contact them via discord already or not? Maybe they are responsive for small amount only but takes longer time for big amount. I know it is not a small amount for FJ to release the funds and may take few days to verify but replying to make the users feel better is much more appreciated than just keep on silence.

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June 19, 2018, 01:50:20 PM
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I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.
But normally FJ users are facing issues while withdrawing big amounts but there is no such issues in the other sites so which maybe due to FJ is out of money.But they already mention that this is a procedure to save users from scammers but I don't think this maybe the reason for pending withdrawals.Decreasing the withdrawal limits everyday is may increase the doubt on that site.
I always kept saying that fj is a shit site they have stupid policies that generates lot's of income for the site but when someone wins huge they are just silent and don't want to pay the user. I don't understand why the stupid owner even has green trust, this site is worse than sportsbet.io atleast they pay some people this site never pays anyone

Also anyone noticed no one from the fj signature campaign users have replied, wierd as normally they defend this shit it looks like even they know now that fj is a scam Roll Eyes
Just wait for those signature campaign defenders to find out this post and defend the site itself. For now there are some words which i dont really agree about. They arent a scam site, there might be some delays but still they do able to handle it out, the main issue on here is the delay on how they do processed out winnings which is different into other sites when a player won then withdrawals processed automatically without any drama and this is the thing FJ dont have.
Still no replies from those signature participants.LoL.

But I am also saying that they are not scam site they have good reputation before but recently there were many accusations against them and they still paying the rewards by delay which can ruin their reputation.

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June 19, 2018, 02:06:41 PM
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I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.

I agree there is a standard procedure to check user's bets before releasing funds especially if we are talking about big amount but the standard procedure should be clear. At least give the user an approximate time on how long the process will be done. Based on what we have seen (as posted by Lutpin), they took up to 4 months to process big withdrawal. Is that a standard time? I believe it can be done much more faster,  a month is even too long time for such verification process.

I don’t think that 3-4 months can be considered as SOP just for verification. Verification should not take so long. IMO, fortunejack lack the funds at the moment so they’re just stalling and delaying the withdrawal. It’s good that they came through with the withdrawals (as shared by Lutpin) otherwise their repo would be tarnished however they take too long so it may make others worry. They should really do something about this or else their regular players may choose to play at other sites where withdrawal processes are faster and more convenient.
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June 19, 2018, 03:38:33 PM
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Already I saw many cases against the fortune jack before but now again the one more which is just not good for a reputed gambling site.Why it takes too long always when the reward is high.So they don't have enough funds to pay?

By the way this thread need to be in the scam accusations section I think.

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June 19, 2018, 04:12:29 PM
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Already I saw many cases against the fortune jack before but now again the one more which is just not good for a reputed gambling site.Why it takes too long always when the reward is high.So they don't have enough funds to pay?

By the way this thread need to be in the scam accusations section I think.

There's already a thread for it.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4482056.0.

Screenshots are included in initial post, if anyone is interested. Most of the FJ sig campaign defending is going on there.
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June 19, 2018, 05:50:04 PM
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Already I saw many cases against the fortune jack before but now again the one more which is just not good for a reputed gambling site.Why it takes too long always when the reward is high.So they don't have enough funds to pay?

By the way this thread need to be in the scam accusations section I think.

There's already a thread for it.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4482056.0.

Screenshots are included in initial post, if anyone is interested. Most of the FJ sig campaign defending is going on there.

I got paid today but still owe around 140 LTC, balance still show zero, I will attempt to resolve this relatively small amount with them in private. This matter can be consider resolved in the meantime.
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June 19, 2018, 06:28:20 PM
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FJ people are spamming gambling section by posting bull shit but no one is answering OP question. why?

only the manager is answering in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4482056.0

I think they post bull shit to earn free money that's it and the manager is encouraging them.
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June 19, 2018, 07:08:57 PM
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move this topic to reputation, there will be a lot to handle your complaint.
this is bad for my taste fortunejack., if indeed you can not draw your advantage in full I think FJ will get negative feedback again. the worse and the more worried the chamber is there. I suggest that you move to bustadice, if you are a fan of dice sites
I guess this is actually becoming a lot to worry about and it is good he has been able to bring this up. A colleague of mine once had the same issue some weeks back, but probably he was lucky it got rectified in 4 days and was able to get his funds out which he already claimed that would be his last time to ever pay a visit to any online cryptocurrency gambling platform with that first experience with FJ, despite all the hype. It is not a good thing for reputation honestly.

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June 19, 2018, 07:53:03 PM
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I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.
But normally FJ users are facing issues while withdrawing big amounts but there is no such issues in the other sites so which maybe due to FJ is out of money.But they already mention that this is a procedure to save users from scammers but I don't think this maybe the reason for pending withdrawals.Decreasing the withdrawal limits everyday is may increase the doubt on that site.
I always kept saying that fj is a shit site they have stupid policies that generates lot's of income for the site but when someone wins huge they are just silent and don't want to pay the user. I don't understand why the stupid owner even has green trust, this site is worse than sportsbet.io atleast they pay some people this site never pays anyone

Also anyone noticed no one from the fj signature campaign users have replied, wierd as normally they defend this shit it looks like even they know now that fj is a scam Roll Eyes
Just wait for those signature campaign defenders to find out this post and defend the site itself. For now there are some words which i dont really agree about. They arent a scam site, there might be some delays but still they do able to handle it out, the main issue on here is the delay on how they do processed out winnings which is different into other sites when a player won then withdrawals processed automatically without any drama and this is the thing FJ dont have.
Still no replies from those signature participants.LoL.

But I am also saying that they are not scam site they have good reputation before but recently there were many accusations against them and they still paying the rewards by delay which can ruin their reputation.
Ive been expecting such thing when i revisit this thread again and theres no still sign of defending from their signature participant.For now if they would continue this such behavior i doubt they would lose up some big rollers or whales due to such issue when it comes to releasing big wins. Too much delay or too much time for verification which it doesnt really consume too much time on verifying bets.If they would retain this matter then time will come they would come down on ranks.
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June 20, 2018, 06:34:01 AM
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I don't think that they will try to steal your coins. It is just standard operating procedure. When you increase your deposit by 3x, naturally it raises a few eyebrows. They will allow the withdrawal only after confirming that you haven't done any cheating or hacking.
But normally FJ users are facing issues while withdrawing big amounts but there is no such issues in the other sites so which maybe due to FJ is out of money.But they already mention that this is a procedure to save users from scammers but I don't think this maybe the reason for pending withdrawals.Decreasing the withdrawal limits everyday is may increase the doubt on that site.
I always kept saying that fj is a shit site they have stupid policies that generates lot's of income for the site but when someone wins huge they are just silent and don't want to pay the user. I don't understand why the stupid owner even has green trust, this site is worse than sportsbet.io atleast they pay some people this site never pays anyone

Also anyone noticed no one from the fj signature campaign users have replied, wierd as normally they defend this shit it looks like even they know now that fj is a scam Roll Eyes
Just wait for those signature campaign defenders to find out this post and defend the site itself. For now there are some words which i dont really agree about. They arent a scam site, there might be some delays but still they do able to handle it out, the main issue on here is the delay on how they do processed out winnings which is different into other sites when a player won then withdrawals processed automatically without any drama and this is the thing FJ dont have.
Still no replies from those signature participants.LoL.

But I am also saying that they are not scam site they have good reputation before but recently there were many accusations against them and they still paying the rewards by delay which can ruin their reputation.
Ive been expecting such thing when i revisit this thread again and theres no still sign of defending from their signature participant.For now if they would continue this such behavior i doubt they would lose up some big rollers or whales due to such issue when it comes to releasing big wins. Too much delay or too much time for verification which it doesnt really consume too much time on verifying bets.If they would retain this matter then time will come they would come down on ranks.
As someone saiid it is happening on the scam accusation section but they don't have fair enough reason for defending such things other than manual verification but probably people can understand that they may not have enough funds to pay the big rewards.But they need to rectify these things quickly to keep their reputation and they need to e careful to avoid such things in the future to regain their reputation.

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