serious discussion on the strategy of the manipulator. Please no flame posts

[Minsc]

Actually I think the goal here is to predict his moves to profit off them.

[Serge]

> they are manipulating it UNFAIRLY

do they play above rules that the rest of people go by on the market?

larger wallet has larger pull, or is it unfair?

[NamelessOne]

Actually I think the goal here is to predict his moves to profit off them.

That is what I've been trying to do, might as well if we are stuck with it... whatever it/she/he/them "The Conductor"  is.

[S3052]

It really is all a conspiracy against us. Government manipulates BTC price and makes it crash to levels like 1 dollar etc. -> mining becomes unprofitable -> miners quit -> government takes over network without 13 million needed worth of ATI cards etc. Simples
[quote\]

This is certainly a possibility
some institution/company who has an interest to drive bitcoins down

[bulanula]

Actually I think the goal here is to predict his moves to profit off them.

That is what I've been trying to do, might as well if we are stuck with it... whatever it/she/he/them "The Conductor"  is.

  Maybe it is Obongo and he's just trying to make a few $$$. Who knows ?

[Nagle]

It's clear that there are some active traders with programs trying to profit from small swings. But averaged out over a month, they have little effect.


Bitcoin, down $4 a month every month since June.

On the scale of days, there are lots of little "rallies" and "crashes". But few exceed 3 days, and at the end of each cycle, the price is down. Each time there's a "rally", after about two days the market depth on the buy side dries up.  We're watching a thinly traded market being played by short term traders, probably with the same money going round and round.

[Serge]

It's clear that there are some active traders with programs trying to profit from small swings. But averaged out over a month, they have little effect.


Bitcoin, down $4 a month every month since June.

On the scale of days, there are lots of little "rallies" and "crashes". But few exceed 3 days, and at the end of each cycle, the price is down. Each time there's a "rally", after about two days the market depth on the buy side dries up.  We're watching a thinly traded market being played by short term traders, probably with the same money going round and round.

in your outlook what is going to be a new low in this round? and in what timeframe?

[RyNinDaCleM]

So, WTF was that?

[RyNinDaCleM]

Did anyone else see the $.40 of sells just drop out?

[NamelessOne]

Yes, it was... odd.

[proudhon]

Did anyone else see the $.40 of sells just drop out?

They were bought, I think.

[RyNinDaCleM]

That one wasn't! The whole side is "The Manipulator"! lol

[322i0n]

uh! the whole market is THE MANIPULATOR! WTF!

[bulanula]

EPIC market manipulation. The government is onto us people. Run for ya lives 

[speeder]

Fuck

I lost lots of money

I bought leveraged, and then that huge sale that threw it to below 5 happened And I got a automatic liquidation

[Jixtreme]

Wait wait wait....

I've never said anything about conspiracy or 'ulterior motives' so attempting to paint me in that light isn't going to stick.

then...

If a person uses massive amounts of money to twist and turn an ENTIRE MARKET made up of thousands of people in order to make themselves more money, they are manipulating it UNFAIRLY, just as your posted definition of manipulation states.

Clearly, in quote number two, you admit that you believe that 'he' is putting up massive amounts of money to "twist and turn and entire market." How is that NOT belief in an ulterior motive?? ?? ??

When I place a buy order, I'm simply trying to buy some coins. When 'he' places a buy order, he's doing it to twist the market... Unfairly!

ULTERIOR. MOTIVE.

Like I said, pick up a dictionary.

I'd rather spend my time gleefully trolling, as it's something that, as you can tell, I deeply, deeply enjoy. Unfortunately, the idiocy surrounding the belief in "THE MANIPULATOR" has shocked me straight.

@Revalin: I read the OP, and the thread title, and I ignored it because I was foolish enough to believe I could talk sense into people on the internet. Truly, I am the naive one.

[netrin]

Bitcoin, down $4 a month every month since June.

Hey Nagle, I love a good gloom'n'doom story as much as anyone, but you're not even trying anymore. With 50% monthly declines, bitcoin has been hyper-depreciating 8 June to 8 September! And the past 30 days have been no exception.

[Minsc]

When I place a buy order, I'm simply trying to buy some coins. When 'he' places a buy order, he's doing it to twist the market... Unfairly!

I've been thinking, without him, the market would stagnate.  What is useful is to be able to predict his next move.

[bulanula]

When I place a buy order, I'm simply trying to buy some coins. When 'he' places a buy order, he's doing it to twist the market... Unfairly!

I've been thinking, without him, the market would stagnate.  What is useful is to be able to predict his next move.

That is pretty easy to do etc. First he pushes the price up ( pumps ) then when he gets it to what he wants etc. he dumps a boatload of coins like happened with 20k last week etc.

[ineededausername]

Bitcoin, down $4 a month every month since June.

Hey Nagle, I love a good gloom'n'doom story as much as anyone, but you're not even trying anymore. With 50% monthly declines, bitcoin has been hyper-depreciating 8 June to 8 September! And the past 30 days have been no exception.

If you stare at that second chart a little you can see that a previous resistance trendline is now a support.  Granted, the trendline is going downwards but still...