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Author Topic: [✔] [OPEN - LIMITED] Group Buy - Prospero X-1 by Black Arrow [$3.96/GH/s] [✔]  (Read 2192 times)
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February 05, 2014, 12:46:03 PM
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Can you share with us your calculations on the ROI time?

Calculations of 3 february like in the thread:
15GH/s - $69: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=15000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=69.00
25GH/s - $99: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=25000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=99.00
60GH/s - $249: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=60000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=249.00

Though the difficulty has increased once again. I have another miner myself of 200GH/s, and I am going to mine altcoins now, it's much more profitable. And because of the pool's system it will only mine the most profitable coin. And all the altcoins will be converted to bitcoins again.
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February 05, 2014, 12:52:00 PM
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Can you share with us your calculations on the ROI time?

Calculations of 3 february like in the thread:
15GH/s - $69: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=15000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=69.00
25GH/s - $99: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=25000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=99.00
60GH/s - $249: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=60000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=249.00

Though the difficulty has increased once again. I have another miner myself of 200GH/s, and I am going to mine altcoins now, it's much more profitable. And because of the pool's system it will only mine the most profitable coin. And all the altcoins will be converted to bitcoins again.

What about the 2% pool fee of slush and the difficult increments over the next 3 month..
Your calculations are misleading please change them..

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February 05, 2014, 12:56:02 PM
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Hi I'm interested

Just a few questions first

How many x1's do you have on order?

Can u provide the forum with proof/confirmation of your order?

Are there any hosting fees?

Also you are newish member.. can anyone verify your details and that your not a scammer etc...


The hosting fee is just 0.99%, that is just enough to pay for the power usage.
And yes I know, I am new to this forum. But I have knowledge about bitcoins, I also have a 200GH/s miner myself. And as proof that I am not a scammer, you can add me on skype and we will talk for a while (even on cam if you prefer).
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February 05, 2014, 12:58:29 PM
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Can you share with us your calculations on the ROI time?

Calculations of 3 february like in the thread:
15GH/s - $69: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=15000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=69.00
25GH/s - $99: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=25000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=99.00
60GH/s - $249: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=60000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=249.00

Though the difficulty has increased once again. I have another miner myself of 200GH/s, and I am going to mine altcoins now, it's much more profitable. And because of the pool's system it will only mine the most profitable coin. And all the altcoins will be converted to bitcoins again.

What about the 2% pool fee of slush and the difficult increments over the next 3 month..
Your calculations are misleading please change them..


I can just hide those calculations if you don't like them. Anyways, I am offering the cheapest and most profitable service on this forum for you guys. There is just the 0.99% fee to pay the power usage, no other hidden fees or anything.
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February 05, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
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i like the fact that you get a refund if bit coin crashes! What a deal! Is it cheaper if i just western union my money to Nigeria?

What do you exaclty mean, Kuttingcorners?
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February 05, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
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i like the fact that you get a refund if bit coin crashes! What a deal! Is it cheaper if i just western union my money to Nigeria?

What do you exaclty mean, Kuttingcorners?

He means scam.  I wouldn't go calling you a scammer yet but your calculations are very deceiving since by the time these ship the diff will have quadrupled because THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!!  THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!! Among other very high end hardware.  BA is dead since they announced the delay.

Not to mention the recent downfall of DZ's R17 left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths about BA here. 

Do you honestly have the funds lying around to issue refunds to everyone if the BTC price crashes?  If BTC price crashes do you issue refunds in USD value of btc?  For instance if I were to buy your $99 package and I paid with btc do I get back the btc I gave you or do I get back $99 worth of btc at the crashed value?

What if BA delays shipping further and people start requesting refunds?

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February 05, 2014, 03:10:11 PM
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i like the fact that you get a refund if bit coin crashes! What a deal! Is it cheaper if i just western union my money to Nigeria?

What do you exaclty mean, Kuttingcorners?

He means scam.  I wouldn't go calling you a scammer yet but your calculations are very deceiving since by the time these ship the diff will have quadrupled because THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!!  THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!! Among other very high end hardware.  BA is dead since they announced the delay.

Not to mention the recent downfall of DZ's R17 left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths about BA here. 

Do you honestly have the funds lying around to issue refunds to everyone if the BTC price crashes?  If BTC price crashes do you issue refunds in USD value of btc?  For instance if I were to buy your $99 package and I paid with btc do I get back the btc I gave you or do I get back $99 worth of btc at the crashed value?

What if BA delays shipping further and people start requesting refunds?

Yes, I have that amount of money here (from my other miner). And I will pay you out in USD.
And if BA delays shipping and anyone is asking for a refund, then they get it back.

Also, I am not doing this for me, I am doing this for the bitcoin community. For people who are not able to spend these great amounts of money.
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February 05, 2014, 05:49:48 PM
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Payment receipt?Huh

I don't see them...

Do you?

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February 05, 2014, 07:07:30 PM
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Payment receipt?Huh

I don't see them...

Do you?



I have not bought those miners yet. I want to do this 'project' for the community, but if not enough people wants to participate then the project will not continue.
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February 05, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
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@Smeers blackarrow do not allow group buys. Read their website.

You also do not understand bitcoin difficulty.

Please do much more research before helping us.

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February 05, 2014, 10:04:55 PM
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@Smeers blackarrow do not allow group buys. Read their website.

You also do not understand bitcoin difficulty.

Please do much more research before helping us.

This is called a group buy, but it is not really one. It isn't since we aren't shipping the miners to different places. The only thing is that more people are paying for one order.

Also I DO understand what the difficulty means, why do you think else I started mining altcoins? Yes indeed, because the difficulty increased today and mining bitcoins are now less profitable than mining altcoins.
So don't try to say ever again that I don't know what difficulty means.

Have a nice day.
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February 05, 2014, 10:21:32 PM
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I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even.  Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end.  I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does.  At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M.  These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.

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February 05, 2014, 10:40:29 PM
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I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even.  Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end.  I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does.  At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M.  These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.

You don't know what you are talking about. Read the full thread and you will see that we will mine the most profitable coin via another pool called CoinEx. And I will guarantee that if at the end of your license you didn't get to the break-even that I will pay the investments back.
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February 05, 2014, 10:47:49 PM
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I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even.  Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end.  I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does.  At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M.  These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.

You don't know what you are talking about. Read the full thread and you will see that we will mine the most profitable coin via another pool called CoinEx. And I will guarantee that if at the end of your license you didn't get to the break-even that I will pay the investments back.
Yeah, no thanks, guaranteeing ROI is the #1 sign of SCAM to any investor.

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February 05, 2014, 11:00:14 PM
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I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even.  Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end.  I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does.  At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M.  These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.

You don't know what you are talking about. Read the full thread and you will see that we will mine the most profitable coin via another pool called CoinEx. And I will guarantee that if at the end of your license you didn't get to the break-even that I will pay the investments back.
Yeah, no thanks, guaranteeing ROI is the #1 sign of SCAM to any investor.

I guarantee it because I am sure of the case that everybody who buys a license will get a good amount of profit. And if not, then I have the money for them to refund because I mined already a lot of BTC.
I am not a scammer at all.
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February 05, 2014, 11:10:50 PM
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I lol'd at this thread
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February 05, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
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for the love of god dude, you're buying a sha256 miner, you can't mine scrypt coins, do some research and please don't try to help us

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February 05, 2014, 11:21:48 PM
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for the love of god dude, you're buying a sha256 miner, you can't mine scrypt coins, do some research and please don't try to help us



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February 05, 2014, 11:23:02 PM
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for the love of god dude, you're buying a sha256 miner, you can't mine scrypt coins, do some research and please don't try to help us

The term "altcoins" doesn't mean scrypt encrypted coins.
You better do some research because there are many other altcoins which are SHA256 encrypted, for example: Peercoin (PPC).
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February 06, 2014, 04:10:41 AM
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2,500$ profit with 60GH. i feel like on eBay
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