Bisq.network Decentralized Exchange https://bisq.network/

[buwaytress]

Actually Bisq does not require you to always be online. You can connect, take an offer and then turn off your computer and come back later. You only need to stay online if you want your available offers to be visible (ie: you are a market maker).

Thankfully this will soon also be easier thanks to the new API which will alllow mobile apps to connect remotely to your Bisq node. That way you can leave a small computer with Bisq running and get notifications or place orders from your mobile app.

If you frequently trade on Localbitcoins... I highly encourage you to try Bisq on September 20th as part of the kick-start. It's only one day and you have little to lose.

Sorry OP, I should have clarified that yes, I'm generally a market maker when it comes to Bitcoin, which is what I appreciate Localbitcoin's functionality - I set the limits or choose to auto adjust and it's always worked fine for me. I generally only take offers from trusted traders.

That said, I have always kept an eye on Bisq, trying it several times, but I will definitely support this kick-start and perhaps even try it out on mobile (never tried the app yet) running up to Sep 20th.

If more people get behind a decentralized exchange like this and pick up on community based projects, we'll see bitcoin being put to the use that was actually intended for it--P2P exchange without being monitored or charged commissions. Bitcoin kind of lost its original intent a bit I think when it turned into another "get rich quick scheme" last year as everyone thought they could make a bunch of money off it.

I also use Localbitcoins.com mostly because its easier once you establish a relationship with certain people. But it could just as easily be done here too, and the prices are very reasonable.

I think it's quite all right for Bitcoin to find different uses. Power to those who would see it as an investment asset, store of value, or whatever. But yes, I think it would be a refreshing reinvigoration to see more people use Bitcoin the way it was intended to be. Strangely enough (or demonstratively perhaps?) we're now seeing people do just that because they're forced to, in economies that are increasingly pressuring people to seek alternatives for currency.

[BitHodler]

Strangely enough (or demonstratively perhaps?) we're now seeing people do just that because they're forced to, in economies that are increasingly pressuring people to seek alternatives for currency.

That's how we progress due to the overall lazy and ignorant nature of people. If you don't terrorize people as centralized exchange, people won't have any incentive to look for an alternative.

It's because of AML/KYC that people see no other option than to use decentralized exchanges. It's because all the thefts we read about that force people to use decentralized exchanges.

It's basically the same with fiat as well. If fiat was working perfectly and didn't lose value, and banks weren't greedy jerks, people wouldn't even use Bitcoin. By force they learn that they should look into non central alternatives.

[pinkflower]

Bisq September Market Kick-Start Day [September 20th]
https://github.com/bisq-network/growth/issues/67

What
On September 20th 2018 we will try to get as many people as possible to place offers on Bisq as a way to kick-start liquidity after the summer and also launch the newest release.

Objective
Reach maximum number of offers published during 1 day.

I think Burst is still listed in bisq, right? I will call upon the support of the Burst community to support you. I cant make any promises because I have no influence there. But maybe I can ask someone who does.

Thank you for making bisq.

Thank you very much! Please do.

If we all focus on that date (Sept 20th) we can demonstrate how useful Bisq can be with higher liquidity.

Can you give me where developers and PR people should email or contact you? I already have two people in the Burst community asking where they can send you a message. Ty.

[bisq_flix]

HOW TO LIST AN ASSET ON BISQ
https://docs.bisq.network/exchange/howto/list-asset.html

As a DAO and fully decentralized exchange Bisq makes no judgement and takes no sides on which assets/coins/alts it allows you to trade. If it meets a few objective requirements, you can just create a pull request and it will be listed in the next Bisq release.

[bisq_flix]

Bisq September Market Kick-Start Day [September 20th]
https://github.com/bisq-network/growth/issues/67

What
On September 20th 2018 we will try to get as many people as possible to place offers on Bisq as a way to kick-start liquidity after the summer and also launch the newest release.

Objective
Reach maximum number of offers published during 1 day.

I think Burst is still listed in bisq, right? I will call upon the support of the Burst community to support you. I cant make any promises because I have no influence there. But maybe I can ask someone who does.

Thank you for making bisq.

Thank you very much! Please do.

If we all focus on that date (Sept 20th) we can demonstrate how useful Bisq can be with higher liquidity.

Can you give me where developers and PR people should email or contact you? I already have two people in the Burst community asking where they can send you a message. Ty.

Here is good, but if you want a faster reply Bisq slack is very active. You can use this invitation link:  https://bisq.network/slack-invite

[bisq_flix]

In today's Bisq growth call Manfred will be showing the mobile app, the roadmap for the next few months and the DAO UI!

2018.08.09 Growth call
https://github.com/bisq-network/growth/issues/68

[bisq_alexej]

Bisq v0.8.0 is out, with some big new features such as face-to-face trading, iOS and Android mobile app notifications, HalCash as a new payment method and some privacy improvements.

You can download the new version at https://bisq.network/downloads

[bisq_flix]

September is here and Bisq trading activity is growing nicely!

With new payment methods included in 0.8 like Face-to-Face we could now try to kick-start new markets... especially in countries where local currencies have been plummeting this summer, eg: Turkey, Argentina, Brazil, South Africa.... they are the ones who can benefit most from Bitcoin adoption.

Let's also focus on our big September kick-start day:

Bisq September Market Kick-Start Day [September 20th]
https://github.com/bisq-network/growth/issues/67

On this day we hope to bring together as many Bisq traders as possible to simultaneously place offers on Bisq... hoping to reach 300 live offers! (Currently there's normally 150-200 live offers).

It's the best opportunity to see what Bisq will look like with increased liquidity. If you believe in the future of #DEX decentralized exchanges this is your chance to do something to help!

[buwaytress]

Hi OP, I haven't forgotten about the September 20th date, so it's nice to check in here on the same day you provide an update. Am glad you're really looking to market this idea to those countries you mention: they need a bigger, better alternative to localbitcoins. I'm also as I mentioned earlier very keen to diversify my options and get myself some of that $BSQ.

What have the volumes been like from bisq lately?

[bisq_flix]

Hi OP, I haven't forgotten about the September 20th date, so it's nice to check in here on the same day you provide an update. Am glad you're really looking to market this idea to those countries you mention: they need a bigger, better alternative to localbitcoins. I'm also as I mentioned earlier very keen to diversify my options and get myself some of that $BSQ.

What have the volumes been like from bisq lately?

Volumes have grown a lot... but most of it was a huge rise in the XMR/BTC market...


EUR/BTC has been stable over the summer: https://coin.dance/volume/bisq/EUR
USD/BTC has dropped considerably: https://coin.dance/volume/bisq/USD
GBP/BTC is actually taking off with record volumes in August: https://coin.dance/volume/bisq/GBP

XMR volumes blew up over the summer: https://markets.bisq.network/?market=xmr_btc
...surpassing all fiat currencies.

Daily volume is still quite low compared to any large centralized exchange: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bisq/
...but the trend is very positive.

[buwaytress]

Thanks for the reply, I actually didn't know coin dance was tracking bisq volumes. Probably not very surprising to see XMR volumes pick up over decentralised p2p!

Now I'm wondering also if you might want to share a bit of insight into further trends on p2p, esp decentralised platforms like bisq. Might help drum up further awareness for the Sep 20 event, or at the very least create some awareness or just talk about something newsworthy.

I've sent you a PM, we can follow up from there;)

[pinkflower]

HOW TO LIST AN ASSET ON BISQ
https://docs.bisq.network/exchange/howto/list-asset.html

As a DAO and fully decentralized exchange Bisq makes no judgement and takes no sides on which assets/coins/alts it allows you to trade. If it meets a few objective requirements, you can just create a pull request and it will be listed in the next Bisq release.

Good idea. But the SEC wont be happy if you make those decisions lol.

Anyhow, did nixops from the Burst community contact you? I already contacted him in Reddit and he said he would get in touch with you.

I can contact him again and remind him in case he has forgotten. Are your contact details in Github? Ty.

[bisq_flix]

Good idea. But the SEC wont be happy if you make those decisions lol.

A big part of why Bisq is a DAO is so that it doesn't care what the SEC, or any other government agency says.

Today we saw even Shapeshift.io give in to KYC/AML regulation. I know Erik... he hates KYC regulation. He fought it for years and even blocked from using Shapeshift.io any jurisdiction that enforced user data collection....

So why is he giving in now?

Because when you run a company you have a responsibility to your employees and investors. You cannot ignore legal risks and if you want to do any business in the Western world you cannot ignore US judges and US regulations. Even if you are based in Switzerland.

We believe that a DAO like Bisq (or like Bitcoin) based on FOSS can be more resilient. I'm sure it will be put to the test!

[pinkflower]

Good idea. But the SEC wont be happy if you make those decisions lol.

A big part of why Bisq is a DAO is so that it doesn't care what the SEC, or any other government agency says.

Today we saw even Shapeshift.io give in to KYC/AML regulation. I know Erik... he hates KYC regulation. He fought it for years and even blocked from using Shapeshift.io any jurisdiction that enforced user data collection....

So why is he giving in now?

Because when you run a company you have a responsibility to your employees and investors. You cannot ignore legal risks and if you want to do any business in the Western world you cannot ignore US judges and US regulations. Even if you are based in Switzerland.

We believe that a DAO like Bisq (or like Bitcoin) based on FOSS can be more resilient. I'm sure it will be put to the test!

I have never used Shapeshift but I am surprised to see a service like that asking to require KYC/AML. It turns it into a membership only service in some way.

Did nixops contact you?

[bisq_flix]

I have never used Shapeshift but I am surprised to see a service like that asking to require KYC/AML. It turns it into a membership only service in some way.

Did nixops contact you?

Nope. Never spoke to nixops.

[buwaytress]

Good idea. But the SEC wont be happy if you make those decisions lol.

A big part of why Bisq is a DAO is so that it doesn't care what the SEC, or any other government agency says.

Today we saw even Shapeshift.io give in to KYC/AML regulation. I know Erik... he hates KYC regulation. He fought it for years and even blocked from using Shapeshift.io any jurisdiction that enforced user data collection....

So why is he giving in now?

Because when you run a company you have a responsibility to your employees and investors. You cannot ignore legal risks and if you want to do any business in the Western world you cannot ignore US judges and US regulations. Even if you are based in Switzerland.

We believe that a DAO like Bisq (or like Bitcoin) based on FOSS can be more resilient. I'm sure it will be put to the test!

I think what Bisq does or wants to do better is still not really understood by people. If we keep Bitcoin and crypto trading and exchanging the way they were originally envisioned, which is P2P, and strictly without external involvement, then it doesn't matter what any agency says or does. We've already seen now how state restrictions, regional sanctions and embargoes have attempted to stop transactions - and faillng. Might stifle growth somewhat but if people find out they can use solutions like Bisq for safer, more private exchanges... eventually the governments will realise that too.

I was just saying in a separate thread how the Shapeshift move seems incredible ill-advised. But yes, it's more to do with the company's direction (we saw already how Shapeshift helped enforcement stop the movement of stolen funds and that's great but it sets a precedent).

You're right too - no DAO is immune, but we have had a good plenty of times to see it being put to the test at least with Bitcoin. Let's see how Bisq holds up!

[bisq_flix]

Amazing volumes today on Bisq for XMR/BTC pair!  $345,544 USD worth so far in the last 24 hrs.


https://twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1039234933674393600

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmwapB_XoAIGBXf.jpg

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bisq/

[bisq_flix]

How to Buy Bitcoin Without Disclosing Your Identity
https://news.bitcoin.com/how-to-buy-bitcoin-without-disclosing-your-identity/

Bisq is a decentralized P2P network that we’ve previously profiled. It enables BCH, BTC, and numerous other cryptocurrencies to be bought and sold without needing to first scan your passport, driving license, disclose your financial history, and attest to the origin of your bitcoins. It’s how a cryptocurrency marketplace ought to be in other words. To access it, users need to download Bisq’s desktop software which is open source. As its FAQ explains, “Bisq does not know the traders. No data is stored on who trades with whom. Bisq does not require registration. This means privacy is maintained, there are no “approval” wait times, and identity theft becomes impossible.

[buwaytress]

Well, let's hope we get a few more traders or even just curious watchers joining up for the 20th in just over a week's time. A third of a million dollars on one day yesterday is a major landmark (curiously, if this volume had been at ATHs, it would have been over a million dollars!).

Anyway, this just fresh off the press. Would have shared it in Press section but since it's not exclusively Bitcoin related, maybe we'll just leave it here for readers Thanks for your and others' time, OP.

https://bitcoinnews.com/p2p-exchange-bisq-it-doesnt-get-more-decentralized-than-this/

[bisq_flix]

Well, let's hope we get a few more traders or even just curious watchers joining up for the 20th in just over a week's time. A third of a million dollars on one day yesterday is a major landmark (curiously, if this volume had been at ATHs, it would have been over a million dollars!).

Anyway, this just fresh off the press. Would have shared it in Press section but since it's not exclusively Bitcoin related, maybe we'll just leave it here for readers Thanks for your and others' time, OP.

https://bitcoinnews.com/p2p-exchange-bisq-it-doesnt-get-more-decentralized-than-this/

Thanks for this, and a especial thanks to Amelia for the great write up!