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July 19, 2018, 04:49:35 PM |
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I have a serious doubt on the provably fairness. The server seed changes for every bet. only the client seed stays the same and there is no nonce. Instead of nonce the website rotates seed for every bets. Server seed shouldn't be changed automatically unless the player rotates the seed. Provably fairness of bets are calculated using Client seed, server seed, hashed seed and nonce. Correct me if I am wrong. I contacted support and they don't have a valid answer to this.
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July 19, 2018, 06:33:35 PM |
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I have a serious doubt on the provably fairness. The server seed changes for every bet. only the client seed stays the same and there is no nonce. Instead of nonce the website rotates seed for every bets. Server seed shouldn't be changed automatically unless the player rotates the seed. Provably fairness of bets are calculated using Client seed, server seed, hashed seed and nonce. Correct me if I am wrong. I contacted support and they don't have a valid answer to this.
There are two type of Provably fair one is with nonce, and another one is without nonce. As long as there is a client seed it is provably fair.
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July 20, 2018, 07:06:41 PM |
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I have a serious doubt on the provably fairness. The server seed changes for every bet. only the client seed stays the same and there is no nonce. Instead of nonce the website rotates seed for every bets. Server seed shouldn't be changed automatically unless the player rotates the seed. Provably fairness of bets are calculated using Client seed, server seed, hashed seed and nonce. Correct me if I am wrong. I contacted support and they don't have a valid answer to this.
There are two type of Provably fair one is with nonce, and another one is without nonce. As long as there is a client seed it is provably fair. player seed has to change then every bet if the player's seed doesn't change and there are no nonces,nothing prevents the website to generate a losing server seed you can and rather you should be able to enter your own client seed after each and every bet,if you don't -your browser generates it for you a good example of such a system-bitvest.io
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July 21, 2018, 06:48:04 PM |
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I have a serious doubt on the provably fairness. The server seed changes for every bet. only the client seed stays the same and there is no nonce. Instead of nonce the website rotates seed for every bets. Server seed shouldn't be changed automatically unless the player rotates the seed. Provably fairness of bets are calculated using Client seed, server seed, hashed seed and nonce. Correct me if I am wrong. I contacted support and they don't have a valid answer to this.
There are two type of Provably fair one is with nonce, and another one is without nonce. As long as there is a client seed it is provably fair. player seed has to change then every bet if the player's seed doesn't change and there are no nonces,nothing prevents the website to generate a losing server seed you can and rather you should be able to enter your own client seed after each and every bet,if you don't -your browser generates it for you a good example of such a system-bitvest.io yes you can change your client seed after every bet.
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July 22, 2018, 04:32:09 AM |
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I would advise everyone not to work here There is a scam on the subject I've sent 0.002 Then after a few minutes I did not find the balance For knowledge I did not play definitively
Support does not help
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July 22, 2018, 09:00:18 AM |
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I would advise everyone not to work here There is a scam on the subject I've sent 0.002 Then after a few minutes I did not find the balance For knowledge I did not play definitively
Support does not help
What is your username there ? and also transaction id please.
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July 22, 2018, 09:05:43 AM |
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July 22, 2018, 10:04:51 AM |
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I would advise everyone not to work here There is a scam on the subject I've sent 0.002 Then after a few minutes I did not find the balance For knowledge I did not play definitively
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I still haven't faced any problem there. All my deposits and withdrawals are smooth. I think there may be problem with yours one.
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July 22, 2018, 10:10:36 AM |
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I do not know the problem I was playing in bitsler.com Sent 0.002
Direct from bitsler After you finish playing at bitsler.com
I did not find the balance here
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July 22, 2018, 10:55:55 AM |
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I do not know the problem I was playing in bitsler.com Sent 0.002
Direct from bitsler After you finish playing at bitsler.com
I did not find the balance here
are you sure your transaction has been processed by bitsler? they have a policy that turns manual withdrawals on if the system detects abuse or faucet farming in this case your withdrawal is held to be reviewed by admins and can be cancelled you should contact Bitsler too and see if the tx has gone through on their end additionally-blockchain is congested as of lately,it took me four hours to get my deposit credited
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July 22, 2018, 11:04:30 AM |
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you received the balance and played with it and lost. you went upto 0.00273471 before you loss. you were running auto. Here are some bets id's that will prove that you were playing with your deposit. 9595285 was your first bet. These are the last bets where you lost the balance 9687712, 9687713, 9687755, 9687756, 9687787, 9687798, 9687799, 9687824, 9687847
are you sure your transaction has been processed by bitsler? they have a policy that turns manual withdrawals on if the system detects abuse or faucet farming in this case your withdrawal is held to be reviewed by admins and can be cancelled you should contact Bitsler too and see if the tx has gone through on their end additionally-blockchain is congested as of lately,it took me four hours to get my deposit credited
he received and lost
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July 22, 2018, 11:21:12 AM |
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Warning to all Administration Login User names So it appears to be a hacking account And loss of money Do not deposit your money here
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July 22, 2018, 03:27:13 PM |
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Warning to all Administration Login User names So it appears to be a hacking account And loss of money Do not deposit your money here
wow thank you for uncovering this conspiracy! admins hacking accounts with 0.002 btc and losing it on autobet,to keep it hush hush /sarcasm you seriously think anyone in his right mind ,especially a new site like goup,would resort to such a thing? if I were you I would check your PC for malware or create passwords that are not 123456
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July 22, 2018, 03:28:57 PM |
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Where information on levels. And why many complain that you don't remove their means more than a day ?
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July 22, 2018, 03:45:59 PM |
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Your first 10 LTC promo is over already but the notification message to notify people is still there. It should be removed as soon as possible unless you are going to run another 10 LTC promo very soon. Where information on levels.
There is no information on levels as far as I know, I have tried to find about it out since some time ago by clicking usernames and looking at my own account setting but nothing.
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July 22, 2018, 06:37:39 PM |
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wow thank you for uncovering this conspiracy! admins hacking accounts with 0.002 btc and losing it on autobet,to keep it hush hush /sarcasm you seriously think anyone in his right mind ,especially a new site like goup,would resort to such a thing? if I were you I would check your PC for malware or create passwords that are not 123456
Thank you for your feedback. Really appreciate your support. There is no information on levels as far as I know, I have tried to find about it out since some time ago by clicking usernames and looking at my own account setting but nothing.
We will soon start a wagering contest but this time on all coins
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July 23, 2018, 03:33:19 AM |
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I have a serious doubt on the provably fairness. The server seed changes for every bet. only the client seed stays the same and there is no nonce. Instead of nonce the website rotates seed for every bets. Server seed shouldn't be changed automatically unless the player rotates the seed. Provably fairness of bets are calculated using Client seed, server seed, hashed seed and nonce. Correct me if I am wrong. I contacted support and they don't have a valid answer to this.
There are two type of Provably fair one is with nonce, and another one is without nonce. As long as there is a client seed it is provably fair. player seed has to change then every bet if the player's seed doesn't change and there are no nonces,nothing prevents the website to generate a losing server seed you can and rather you should be able to enter your own client seed after each and every bet,if you don't -your browser generates it for you a good example of such a system-bitvest.io Thank you for helping. Seed changes automatically for each bets on GoUp. I was not familiar with this system that's why I found it odd. Now I understand.
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July 24, 2018, 12:12:53 PM |
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We will soon start a wagering contest but this time on all coins
All coins? Are you sure? What I would suggest if you open new wagering one coin each, with this I believe the prize will be huge instead of you do all coins wagering contest. I just wondering when and how much prize are you going to put in this kind of event. Because it is a wagering contest, you should do this better then a profit contest
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July 24, 2018, 03:10:03 PM |
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We will soon start a wagering contest but this time on all coins
All coins? Are you sure? What I would suggest if you open new wagering one coin each, with this I believe the prize will be huge instead of you do all coins wagering contest. I just wondering when and how much prize are you going to put in this kind of event. Because it is a wagering contest, you should do this better then a profit contest Why not? The amount of the prize is not depending on how many coins count towards the contest. I believe the site has its own limit of fund for promo, so lets say the limit is 1btc then this 1btc will be the max prize. If the site needs to make contest for each coin then the 1btc will be spitted. As it is a new site, owner need to be so effective in doing promotions.
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