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...I've decided to start reporting low value posts from spammers as well. Now, posts like "nice project" and "great team" obviously fall in to that category, but my question is regarding one line generic posts. ... Now, all these posts technically answer the question OP has posted, but they certainly don't add anything new or original to an already 30 page discussion. In my opinion, all these deserve to be trashed, but I can only assume posts like these aren't being trashed, otherwise they wouldn't be literally everywhere.
What's the stance on this?
My opinion - worth price paid - is that it is better to report the original post in a spam megathread and recommend deletion or locking rather report individual posts for deletion. The exception would be plagiarism or referral link spam - in both cases the user making the post should be banned.
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September 15, 2018, 06:17:32 AM Last edit: September 15, 2018, 07:24:24 AM by o_e_l_e_o |
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My opinion - worth price paid - is that it is better to report the original post in a spam megathread and recommend deletion or locking rather report individual posts for deletion. A good point, actually. It's much more time efficient to just get a spam thread locked than it is to report pretty much every individual post for endlessly repeating the same nonsense, especially when 50 new posts pop up within the hour.
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September 24, 2018, 02:29:34 PM |
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Now, all these posts technically answer the question OP has posted, but they certainly don't add anything new or original to an already 30 page discussion. In my opinion, all these deserve to be trashed, but I can only assume posts like these aren't being trashed, otherwise they wouldn't be literally everywhere.
What's the stance on this?
You've probably got your answer since I haen't checked this thread in a while, my bad. However, if a thread is a breeding ground for spammers it will either be removed or locked. Depending entirely on the content, and how bad it is, and who is dealing with it. There's not real way of putting guidelines to it. Its really down to the discretion of the mod. The thread that you linked though as been trashed.
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September 24, 2018, 02:34:12 PM |
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You've probably got your answer since I haen't checked this thread in a while, my bad. However, if a thread is a breeding ground for spammers it will either be removed or locked. Depending entirely on the content, and how bad it is, and who is dealing with it. There's not real way of putting guidelines to it. Its really down to the discretion of the mod. The thread that you linked though as been trashed.
Yeah, I since messed up and lost my 100% record by reporting a bunch of "nice project" posts twice, so since then have been much more liberal with my reporting. I've been happy to see that every post I've reported along the lines of these generic one liners has been trashed, and I have also had quite a few topics locked or trashed that were breeding grounds, as you say. It's just nice to know that we're on the same page.
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September 24, 2018, 02:44:54 PM |
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I wouldn't worry too much about your report percentage. Especially, now that you've lost some ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I've probably got the most bad reports on the forum still. 200 odd.
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September 24, 2018, 02:49:41 PM |
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This should be put to sticky threads because people nowadays are trying to help getting rid of the members here that do like to spam but somehow does not know how to report in accordance with forum rules and regulations. This is why I recommend this thread to label it as a sticky thread. I do hope that reporting will do so well and will not be abuse by other members here forum.
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September 24, 2018, 04:04:34 PM |
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Yeah, I since messed up and lost my 100% record
Awwww... that's ok though. I was in low 90-s not long ago. Now 98% but I'm still messing up occasionally. Once I reported a post that I intended to merit so the mod was probably like "WTF does '4' mean in the comment?"
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September 24, 2018, 04:37:09 PM |
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Yeah, I since messed up and lost my 100% record
Awwww... that's ok though. I was in low 90-s not long ago. Now 98% but I'm still messing up occasionally. Once I reported a post that I intended to merit so the mod was probably like "WTF does '4' mean in the comment?" Lmao. I know I've messed up a couple of times selecting reasons from the drop down box that shows up after you type one or two characters, and hit enter before I realized my mistake. So I've reported a couple posts for "L" or "P". Still got deleted though. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I've made my peace with 99%.
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September 24, 2018, 10:39:47 PM |
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I try to ask here, since someone suggested on my topic.
What if I report one users using bots for social media and spamming the report here on forum?
What is the policy against those people who perform activities with bots?
If I find of them, what should I do? Are those account will be permabanned?
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September 24, 2018, 11:10:30 PM |
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I try to ask here, since someone suggested on my topic.
What if I report one users using bots for social media and spamming the report here on forum?
What is the policy against those people who perform activities with bots?
If I find of them, what should I do? Are those account will be permabanned?
What exactly do you mean by "spamming the report here on forum"? If they're breaking forum rules you can report them. But if they're just using bots outside of the forum and reporting to bounty threads here then the most you can do is PM the bounty manager and hopefully (but unlikely) get them removed from the bounty. You might also get cheaters red-tagged by DT if you can prove it. But moderators will not police bounty cheaters.
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September 25, 2018, 10:39:15 AM |
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What exactly do you mean by "spamming the report here on forum"? If they're breaking forum rules you can report them. But if they're just using bots outside of the forum and reporting to bounty threads here then the most you can do is PM the bounty manager and hopefully (but unlikely) get them removed from the bounty. You might also get cheaters red-tagged by DT if you can prove it. But moderators will not police bounty cheaters.
I mean, they use bots on social media (yes it can be proven) once they the bot complete the weekly activity, they spam here on forum hundred of reports done by the bot.
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September 25, 2018, 12:22:28 PM |
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What exactly do you mean by "spamming the report here on forum"? If they're breaking forum rules you can report them. But if they're just using bots outside of the forum and reporting to bounty threads here then the most you can do is PM the bounty manager and hopefully (but unlikely) get them removed from the bounty. You might also get cheaters red-tagged by DT if you can prove it. But moderators will not police bounty cheaters.
I mean, they use bots on social media (yes it can be proven) once they the bot complete the weekly activity, they spam here on forum hundred of reports done by the bot. It doesn't sound like they're breaking forum rules. "Spam" doesn't merely mean a lot of posts. It means undesirable posts - ads, gibberish, multiple post in a row, etc. If they're posting their bounty reports as prescribed in designated bounty threads then it doesn't look like the mods would have any reason to ban them. But if you can prove the use of bots then I would suggest to post that in Reputation and have bounty managers and perhaps DT members look into it.
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September 26, 2018, 01:32:07 PM |
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Does anybody know the behind the scene on how reporting is managed on a Local board?
Specifically: a) Can local Mods Ban or Nuke users themselves? (or do they pass the cases along to Admins/Global Mods).
b) Are reports made on a local board read/managed only by local moderators? (I guess global/admin may have visibility, but the operational part is down to the local mod).
c) Do Local mods upscale local only issues?
d) Do Local mods upscale issues that, being reported at a local level, have implication at a global level (i.e. user spams on local and on bitcoin board)?
I gave my best shot at answering these questions on my local board, but wanted to make sure I got them right in order to amend if necessary.
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September 26, 2018, 02:26:43 PM |
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Does anybody know the behind the scene on how reporting is managed on a Local board?
Specifically: a) Can local Mods Ban or Nuke users themselves? (or do they pass the cases along to Admins/Global Mods).
b) Are reports made on a local board read/managed only by local moderators? (I guess global/admin may have visibility, but the operational part is down to the local mod).
c) Do Local mods upscale local only issues?
d) Do Local mods upscale issues that, being reported at a local level, have implication at a global level (i.e. user spams on local and on bitcoin board)?
I gave my best shot at answering these questions on my local board, but wanted to make sure I got them right in order to amend if necessary.
Okay, I'm going to try my best to be accurate as possible. But, don't anything I say for fact as I'm only certain on a few things. A) AFAIK they'll only be able to nuke if they are a patroller, and the reported user is a Newbie or below 28 activity. If not, then they'll likely have to contact a Global Moderator with information on why the user should be banned. Again, I'm not too familiar with how this works. B) No. Global moderators will see the reports, and any reported newbies will also be able to be seen by patrollers. I have several local board reports each day. If they are obvious like ref spam etc I'll remove them. If not, I'll just ignore it until someone who has knowledge of that language deals with it. C) I'm not entirely sure what you mean. But, if a local moderator is only assigned to its local board thats the sections which they can take action in. They may well be made a patroller on top of that, and can deal with Newbie reports site wide. D) Again, I'm not sure what you mean. However, if they are a patroller they'll see Newbie reports site wide, and can act on them. Nuke etc. If not, and they are only a moderator in their local board, they can only take action in their local board.
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September 26, 2018, 02:51:18 PM |
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Ok, Thanks. From what you say, local mods do not ban non-nukable accounts, but need to upscale the case to a global mod. I was discussing this issue this morning, and the person I discussed it with was not sure why accounts he/she had reported where still roaming around after days, when there was a clear infringement of the rules. More to the point, he/she was trying to understand who was to take action on the account eventually if it were to be banned, and if language could be a problem if the report was written only in the local language.
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September 27, 2018, 05:56:39 AM |
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From my understanding that is likely the case. However, local board moderators may well have specific privileges to ban. I do doubt this though, and would say that they would need to contact a Global Moderator if a particular user is a problem. How they go about that, and prove it if the Global mod doesn't know how to speak that language I don't know honestly.
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September 29, 2018, 05:06:16 AM |
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@Welsh, I would like to request one more report option on OP. I have experienced last day. Report a thread that OP already got appropriate answer. Sometimes peoples make question, than lot of people's answered there. In that case OP already got answers but people's still spam on same thread. This thread should be report for locked. And yesterday I was tried it, report marked good and locked thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039762.0So you could add this option on your OP. This is very effective to avoid spam. It should be highlighted. Perhaps lot of reporter don't know about it.
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September 29, 2018, 07:40:51 AM |
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Yeah, especially when those questions are easily found elsewhere as they have been asked a hundred times before. I'm going to be looking at editing the thread soon, and working on the formatting. I've just been a little busy with moderation, and the fact that I've got an expedition coming up, and have been training for that I'll get around to it eventually. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I'm about to pad my good reports coming from bounty section soon, I can sense the BTC coming, and there are many bot-like posters there, but I have a question about the ban: Anyone posting info from their bounty application (usernames, addresses, etc.) or anything alongside the lines of "joined X", "looking forward to getting X", "thanks for the opportunity", "filled out form", "signed up for X", "applied", "following / liked / retweeted X" when such data is not required or the requirement is against the forum's rules risk having their account banned. These are extremely low quality posts that generate massive amounts of spam, drowning out any legitimate discussion these threads may posses.
Is it temporary ban or permanent?
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Why not sticked ? I want to clear about one thing, copy paste own post will consider plagiarism or only spam ? I have seen few user just copy paste same post all over forum. Although I send PM to moderator , but I want to know clearly. Note : moderators has taken action those profile are report by pm.
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