[ANN][Pre-ICO] Coal Coin - VIRTUAL INVESTMENT IN A REAL PRODUCT

[YuTü.Co.in]

How can coal-coin.io proclaim to be the first to marrying the extraction of coal with crypto when coalcoin.io came before them espousing the same thing and having the same namesake?

https://www.coalcoin.io/

Further, any entity worth their salt wouldn't have acquired a domain name so close to one attached to a crypto entity advancing a lending program akin to BitConnect. I'm not sure what the Russian word of brainiac is but I'm willing to bet that there's a taяд at its end.

I repeat, we do not have relations with them, they do not have a clearly formulated idea and goals. we have them.

We are an operating organization with experience in this business. If there are questions and interest we urge to come to us

You have videos, they have videos. You have a plan, they have a plan. You have a white paper, they have a white paper --:> https://www.coalcoin.io/CIC/CIC%20Whitepaper%20V1.5.pdf.

We're still waiting for proof of your current operations in the coal industry. Meanwhile, can I get an order of scrambled eggs with brains, hash browns, raisin toast and a tall glass of grapefruit juice, easy ice?

[suchmoon]

I tried to figure out what those yellow and orange documents are on their website:



Looks like a property deed or title. I think they own the documents show that someone owns a gas station, a car wash, some shed or one car garage, some old industrial buildings, a swimming pool, some land (but doesn't seem to be a mine) and the others are too blurry to make out. It's kinda bizarre that they have these high-resolution scans of their restaurant-becoming-a-coal-mine registration document but the scanner appears to have broken down when they got to the property documents.

Location of the above object:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Severnoye+Shosse,+14,+Novokuznetsk,+Kemerovskaya+oblast',+Russia

Edit: the names on the documents don't seem to match any of the principals so it's unclear who owns what.

[YuTü.Co.in]

From the desk of How to Blow Your U$25M Wad on 4 Dump Trucks:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20141203-the-ultimate-monster-dumptruck

Two more Belaz 75710s are currently under construction. The price tag for anyone considering buying one; a little over $6m (£3.84m).

[YuTü.Co.in]

In Russia, it's not too much of a stretch to go from the restaurant business to strip-mining coal ...

[Coal-Coin]

we have contracts already for the supply of coal to the countries of Europe and Asia.

Do you have a contract when you still have not extracted the coal?

and you say this:

Once again, we did not say that we are mining coal, we are planning to mine, as we are ready to do this and we have experience in the coal industry, for this we are collecting investments to start the development of coal on our own site.

Why do we collect investment in the coal mine? Because we have contracts for the supply of coal, and we do not have where to buy that volume of coal. which we need under the contract. Due to the large deficit and the high demand for coal at this time. The opening of the cut was a weighted decision, but at the moment the investment in this project. And we limit this together.

we are opening a new cut

where? show pictures of this place and license

Once again, in our work, we invest a lot of resources and forces in security

But you have an office in the building:

About the office, yes our office is located in a residential building

that's a big joke.

This is not some kind of bakery is a large manufacturing enterprise.

So why do you have an office in a residential building?

Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal.

But Karkov Andrey has a office  in a residential building... Why someone who supposedly owns many companies related to fuel and coal would have a office in a residential building?

In occasion of extraction! We do not say that we mine coal. We say that we resell coal, buying it from other coal enterprises and subsequently sell it to the countries of Europe in the company with whom we have a contract for the supply of coal.

But you said:

Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal.

So if Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal, why does he need to buy coal from other companies to resell?

1. At the moment, we buy coal from other enterprises and we sell and sell to European partners. The situation has developed so that although buying more. And there is no opportunity to buy more, because the large deficit of coal

2. This place is just a field not developed, there was carried out geological exploration and it was found out that in this area the volume of coal is lying, on the basis of this will be obtained the Lecenosis. We do not say that we have license. We wrote that in the acquisition of investments we will acquire a license, the documents are ready, but it costs money.

3. Yes, we have a large office in an apartment building on the entire ground floor, but what is this? If we have such a feature of the regions in Russia

4. At us in regions of Russia such feature of an arrangement of offices. Unlike the others we have it in the property of 600 meters square. We have enough.
Show me the ICO projects that make a video blog with the team in the office and on our territory in our case at our coal store. Even if someone shoots a video then they have a small office in which a skyscraper is rented for the duration of the project, and we were in this office and will, and we invite you.

5. we buy and resell coal because it is profitable. And it is even more profitable to extract and sell, so we propose to invest.

These questions speak only about your not competence and not knowledge of the market and that such business

[Coal-Coin]

Well, then post the names and registration numbers of all those companies involved in this project and located in the same apartment building. I don't know why I even have to ask. Again, would you play the same shell game if you were asking for $25 million at a bank?

To ask for one loan, but investment is different. There are different strategies for the development of the company. Krpunnye komapnii not always take loans, namely go on the path of investment using various tools such as the issue of shares.

That doesn't answer the question. It's a very simple one - what are the names and registration numbers of the companies involved in this project and located in the same apartment building?

I repeat, we do not have relations with them, they do not have a clearly formulated idea and goals. we have them.

We are an operating organization with experience in this business. If there are questions and interest we urge to come to us

I'm asking questions and you're not answering. Your experience seems to be in the restaurant business, not in coal.

1. If you have specific proposals for investment, we all provide you with information. And now your goal is trolling and no more.

2. What other restaurant? you say complete nonsense. Not a serious conversation on your part, We have more documents on our website than anyone in the ICO project market. So to cling and blame us for something this is a complete absurdity

[Coal-Coin]

Well, then post the names and registration numbers of all those companies involved in this project and located in the same apartment building. I don't know why I even have to ask. Again, would you play the same shell game if you were asking for $25 million at a bank?

To ask for one loan, but investment is different. There are different strategies for the development of the company. Krpunnye komapnii not always take loans, namely go on the path of investment using various tools such as the issue of shares.

That doesn't answer the question. It's a very simple one - what are the names and registration numbers of the companies involved in this project and located in the same apartment building?

I repeat, we do not have relations with them, they do not have a clearly formulated idea and goals. we have them.

We are an operating organization with experience in this business. If there are questions and interest we urge to come to us

I'm asking questions and you're not answering. Your experience seems to be in the restaurant business, not in coal.

"Sami, call Andrei and tell him we need more coal for the pizza oven. Also, call his brother, Artem, to rush on repairing our delivery trucks since he's head of transportation."

So Andrey says fuck it, opting to strip mine coal in Siberia which is easier ...

Seven months of winter per year froze the ground, making it hard to mine. During the brief summer months, the ground turned to slush. Buildings had to be raised on piles, so that they would not sink from the warmth of the building melting the permafrost. The main processing plant had to be built on better ground, found 20 km away from the mine. The winter temperatures were so low that car tires and steel would shatter and oil would freeze. During the winter, workers used jet engines to thaw and dig out the permafrost or blasted it with dynamite to get access to the underlying kimberlite. The entire mine had to be covered at night to prevent the machinery from freezing.

I refuse to communicate with you inadequate users. Go troll projects dummy, here you do not place

[Coal-Coin]

As for me, I can't see any proofs that you realy are owners of coal mines in Siberia. Pictures on the website are low quality.

Where did we say that we are owners of coal mines? We say that we are collecting investments to open a coal mine! We say that our machinery works on these cuts under the contract and we buy coal for resale to European partners. The video shows everything! Look carefully! and do not foresee what they are not sure of! The video shows our coal depot is just a pledge for investors.

[Coal-Coin]

I tried to figure out what those yellow and orange documents are on their website:



Looks like a property deed or title. I think they own the documents show that someone owns a gas station, a car wash, some shed or one car garage, some old industrial buildings, a swimming pool, some land (but doesn't seem to be a mine) and the others are too blurry to make out. It's kinda bizarre that they have these high-resolution scans of their restaurant-becoming-a-coal-mine registration document but the scanner appears to have broken down when they got to the property documents.

Location of the above object:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Severnoye+Shosse,+14,+Novokuznetsk,+Kemerovskaya+oblast',+Russia

Edit: the names on the documents don't seem to match any of the principals so it's unclear who owns what.

These documents are a certificate of ownership of gas stations, oil bases, production sites and land. The documents specifically obscure personal data, since personal data on the general impression is not good. We will provide them in full only to interested persons. I repeat, unlike other projects, we are acting

[Coal-Coin]

From the desk of How to Blow Your U$25M Wad on 4 Dump Trucks:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20141203-the-ultimate-monster-dumptruck

Two more Belaz 75710s are currently under construction. The price tag for anyone considering buying one; a little over $6m (£3.84m).

In this production, in addition to engineering, there are many other costly articles. And we do not need data of this size, they are not maneuverable. And if you carefully studied the project, then you would understand that in addition to the coal mine, we plan to restore the enrichment factory to offset the cost of the final product.

I recommend you to recommend, study the project, and then questions!

[Coal-Coin]

In Russia, it's not too much of a stretch to go from the restaurant business to strip-mining coal ...

Which restaurant? You talk about something that you either do not know, or do not understand, and even worse you do not know how to read. And this conclusion about you is exactly the same, because we wrote about everything about everything. And from you, only stupid questions come and unreasonable claims.

[Slow death]

Where did we say that we are owners of coal mines?

You said it here:

Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal.

We wrote that in the acquisition of investments we will acquire a license, the documents are ready, but it costs money.

5. we buy and resell coal because it is profitable.

Do you resell coal and do not have the money to pay for license to new project? So, do you want so much money when you still do not have the most important thing that is the license?

[Coal-Coin]

Where did we say that we are owners of coal mines?

You said it here:

Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal.

We wrote that in the acquisition of investments we will acquire a license, the documents are ready, but it costs money.

5. we buy and resell coal because it is profitable.

Do you resell coal and do not have the money to pay for license to new project? So, do you want so much money when you still do not have the most important thing that is the license?

A license is not an issue for which you have to pay.

We have money, but these are other projects!
So I can not understand what the claim is.
When large companies like Apple take loans and investments, it's probably not that they have money, but that there is no need to take money from one business to supply another. This is not correct in terms of oragnization, if you understand what I mean.

[suchmoon]

1. If you have specific proposals for investment, we all provide you with information. And now your goal is trolling and no more.

I have a very specific proposal. Don't lie when you're asking for an investment. How's that?

2. What other restaurant? you say complete nonsense. Not a serious conversation on your part, We have more documents on our website than anyone in the ICO project market. So to cling and blame us for something this is a complete absurdity

Really? You're gonna do this now? Ok... utter waste of my time but whatever.

This is the company registration document you have on your website:

(archived)

Here is some info about the business: http://www.list-org.com/company/7462778 (archived), for example:


Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

Looks good so far? The trouble is, all those coal related activities have been added in April 2018, probably around the time you decided to do an ICO.

Before that it looked like this: http://archive.is/deZ0z


Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

The funny part is that you initially tried to downplay this:

And the fact that the company was engaged before that to others, it is normal for us to have many companies and we will re-qualify each for new needs and projects. The company that owns the technique is one. the company that sells coal is different. We do not put all the assets and activities into one company. This is done to optimize costs and costs, and all the companies are in the same office.

Which is why I asked - what are those other "many companies" that work on this project? It's a simple and obvious question to ask seeing how the main business that you're presenting on your website had nothing to do with coal until a couple of months ago, so that doesn't match your claims of experience and trading contacts etc.

[YuTü.Co.in]

1. If you have specific proposals for investment, we all provide you with information. And now your goal is trolling and no more.

I have a very specific proposal. Don't lie when you're asking for an investment. How's that?

2. What other restaurant? you say complete nonsense. Not a serious conversation on your part, We have more documents on our website than anyone in the ICO project market. So to cling and blame us for something this is a complete absurdity

Really? You're gonna do this now? Ok... utter waste of my time but whatever.

This is the company registration document you have on your website:

(archived)

Here is some info about the business: http://www.list-org.com/company/7462778 (archived), for example:


Looks good so far? The trouble is, all those coal related activities have been added in April 2018, probably around the time you decided to do an ICO.

Before that it looked like this: http://archive.is/deZ0z


The funny part is that you initially tried to downplay this:

And the fact that the company was engaged before that to others, it is normal for us to have many companies and we will re-qualify each for new needs and projects. The company that owns the technique is one. the company that sells coal is different. We do not put all the assets and activities into one company. This is done to optimize costs and costs, and all the companies are in the same office.

Which is why I asked - what are those other "many companies" that work on this project? It's a simple and obvious question to ask seeing how the main business that you're presenting on your website had nothing to do with coal until a couple of months ago, so that doesn't match your claims of experience and trading contacts etc.

CC: We experts in coal so looking to strip mine coal on the U$2.5M piece of property we already own.

Us: Dudes, from your own docs it reads like the corp was once a restaurant.

CC: We's in many businesses, some related, some not. So what's the problem here?

Us (mostly me): Injecting humor to advance the notion that CC is a crazy notion.

CC: You nothing but troll. Where you find that we in restaurant biz?

Us: What about this, that and another thing?

CC: Look, trolls, we need money so to get the license.

Us: Wait, what?

CC: Exactly! Now please reread our fuzzy documents, and try not to make jokes about Fuzzy Wuzzy was a Bear.

[Feetshot]

Good evening! Your success in this business is a good opportunity for investors who need to use it. I support this great project in bounty. Do you have a referral program for receiving bonuses?

[Slow death]

Good evening! Your success in this business is a good opportunity for investors who need to use it. I support this great project in bounty. Do you have a referral program for receiving bonuses?

you need glasses

CC: You nothing but troll. Where you find that we in restaurant biz?

Maybe the Coal Coin team should participate in the MasterChef contest

who knows they can win the contest and get money to do their coal business

[YuTü.Co.in]

Good evening! Your success in this business is a good opportunity for investors who need to use it. I support this great project in bounty. Do you have a referral program for receiving bonuses?

you need glasses

CC: You nothing but troll. Where you find that we in restaurant biz?

Maybe the Coal Coin team should participate in the MasterChef contest

who knows they can win the contest and get money to do their coal business

It's possible that Coal Coin intends to mine charcoal for its chain of restaurants as a cost saving measure with Investards footing the bill ...

[suchmoon]

Or perhaps they're truly lousy cooks and will make money by selling burned food as coal:

[YuTü.Co.in]

Or perhaps they're truly lousy cooks and will make money by selling burned food as coal:

Why would anybody in restaurant business wanna mine coal when this is where the moneys at and can be included on their menu ...

All you need is mating pair of belugas, put 'em in a tank, force them to breed in captivity, collect the roe, and you're golden.