Could Governments & Banks manipulate the price like this?

[BitcoinFX]

Bitcoin, Gold-Backed Currency Can Coexist in Free Society: Ron Paul
- https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-gold-backed-currency-can-coexist-in-free-society-ron-paul/


I.O.U.S.A.: Byte-Sized - The 30 Minute Version
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TjBNjc9Bo


- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_China
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_European_debt_crisis


Money vs Currency - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 1 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/DyV0OfU3-FU
Seven Stages Of Empire - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 2 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/EdSq5H7awi8
Death Of The US Dollar On A Timeline - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 3- Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/y-IemeM-Ado
The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money 4
- https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0
Where Does Money Come From? - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 5 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/OQWMd_NPSBA
Top 4 Reasons For Deflation BEFORE Hyperinflation - Hidden Secrets Of Money 6 (Mike Maloney)
- https://youtu.be/8GP87dgTqF8
The Money Illusion - Hidden Secrets Of Money 7 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/P4_1pwsm5LY
The Bitcoin Revolution (Documentary) Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 8
- https://youtu.be/SF362xxcfdk

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[Swanh]

Let's consider this :

Governments cannot stop Bitcoin by stopping the technology, but they can kill the interest that people have in buying bitcoins. Could governments with the help of Banks, be behind this falling price?

Last year we saw a huge increase in the price and I was thinking that it could have been a collective buying strategy by Banks to buy a lot of coins for a synchronized dump in 2018.  

If the Banks bought a lot of coins last year at the beginning of the spike from $1000 and they triggered a buying frenzy, then most of the more expensive coins would have been bought by the public. So they might just have bought coins to trick other investors into buying more coins.

So what is their goal? Their goal will be to break the demand for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin, by gradually dumping the cheap coins that they bought at the start of last year and pushing the price down. <Like what is happening now>

They know investors will have bought at the higher end, say $10 000 to $19000 and these people would probably have lost money, when they started dumping in 2018. They saw that "demand" for Crypto currencies increased, when there is a constant increase in the price and they are now creating a constant decrease in the price to break people's confidence in the technology and also the demand for the coins.

They will obviously use untraceable methods to do this, because the Banks are helping to hide the origin of this money.   They can only print a few Billions more to execute this strategy and this will go unnoticed, because it is toilet paper money.  

This is the only logical reason why we are seeing a constant decrease in the price, in spite of all the good progress that we have made. It also explains the large spike in the price in 2017.

Hodl on guys and gals, do not be tricked by these cheap tactics. <If this is true>    

Partially governments can impose several restrictions in order to regulate it's use through controlling exchanges and making red lines that shouldn't be surpassed by Bitcoin users inside the state ,but I think they will find some difficulties because, practically Bitcoin is a decentralised money transferring technology.

[isabuhay]

These information were juicy. This helps me a lot. Thank you guys

[cpoer2011]

I think there are many players that manipulate the bitcoin price like this, not just the governments and banks. They are doing this because they threaten with bitcoin and altcoins with the blockchain behind it.

[WaffleMaster]

It's been a theory of mine that that is exactly what has been happening for some time in this bear market, because wall street has opened up futures trading on Bitcoin recently. There's no real proof, but those same people will get terribly burned when they have margin calls because Bitcoin is so volatile. The price can effect interest to a certain degree, but nothing really major. If interest drops too low, then it becomes very easy to manipulate the market in a positive way.

[richardsNY]

I guess same thing can reverse in case if the government involves with the crypto. I guess that is positive manipulation of bitcoin! What do you think!

Indeed. Manipulation works both ways. We have already seen that government officials in South Korea have been abusing their position to shake up the market, and it didn't even surprise me. I have always had the feeling that there is government level manipulation going on, and that just confirmed it. We have also had the central bank of Poland try to make crypto look bad by financially sponsoring social media characters to cause confusion and fear. It only points out that what we believe in makes the traditional system feel uncomfortable, and when you realize that, you understand how much power we have with Bitcoin.

[WARlrus]

wow! that's amazing! I am very interested with your point of view. I always ask my self about the situtation now and I have the answer from you. So, if your idea is right, what can we do now? When does the market recover?

[Burogh]

We already knew that central banks not like with cryptocurrency and bitcoin. Bitcoin can disrupting banks bussiness and they will do anything to stop bitcoin growth. Bitcoin price falling recently, i think its because peoples panic with negative news and selling their bitcoin with cheap price.
Indeed, we should keep faith on bitcoin because bitcoin is good long term investment

[Kakmakr]

wow! that's amazing! I am very interested with your point of view. I always ask my self about the situtation now and I have the answer from you. So, if your idea is right, what can we do now? When does the market recover?

The answer is simple.  

DO NOT fall into their trap, by selling coins and exiting the scene, because this is what they want. Stay strong and hoard about 80% of all the coins you have bought. The other 20% of your coins must be used on a daily basis to support the merchants that are supporting Bitcoin payments. <If you are faced with two merchants that sells the same products or services, then buy from the one that supports Bitcoin>

When you go shopping, ask the clerk if they accept Bitcoin as payment. < Even if they do not advertise it, because it creates Bitcoin awareness > If every Bitcoiner does that, then merchants will see that there are a demand for that. < Do this for services that are provided online too >

Spread as much information as possible to people who does not know about Bitcoin. <The more people buying bitcoins, would counter these attackers that are trying to sabotage Bitcoin, by dumping coins>

DO NOT vote for a political party that does not support Bitcoin. Your collective vote can influence the future of Crypto currencies.  

[Gramna]

Possible. I know that with how much Bitcoin has affected their businesses and kick backs, they would stop at nothing to destroy it, without looking bad in the public's eyes of course. It would be no surprise if they are one of those we call "whales" those who tries to manipulate or control the market, they are doing that so the people would lose trust and interest because of the low or downtrend value. Unfortunately for them, there are some people in the community who knows better, those who cannot be swayed by FUDs or downward trend, if we will all be strong and unite as one in believing in Bitcoin, its technology and future, I am sure this devious plan of this whales will not succeed at all.

[richpham]

But what is our solution here? Do you have any plans for the upcoming?

[dungthuy]

I think Government's movement of regulation somehow could affect the price of crypto currency but about manipulate I don't think it is possible because the crypto currency is defined as a decentralize currency, if the government can manipulate it then that make it no sense

[shackleford]

Let's consider this :

Governments cannot stop Bitcoin by stopping the technology, but they can kill the interest that people have in buying bitcoins. Could governments with the help of Banks, be behind this falling price?

Last year we saw a huge increase in the price and I was thinking that it could have been a collective buying strategy by Banks to buy a lot of coins for a synchronized dump in 2018.  

If the Banks bought a lot of coins last year at the beginning of the spike from $1000 and they triggered a buying frenzy, then most of the more expensive coins would have been bought by the public. So they might just have bought coins to trick other investors into buying more coins.

So what is their goal? Their goal will be to break the demand for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin, by gradually dumping the cheap coins that they bought at the start of last year and pushing the price down. <Like what is happening now>

They know investors will have bought at the higher end, say $10 000 to $19000 and these people would probably have lost money, when they started dumping in 2018. They saw that "demand" for Crypto currencies increased, when there is a constant increase in the price and they are now creating a constant decrease in the price to break people's confidence in the technology and also the demand for the coins.

They will obviously use untraceable methods to do this, because the Banks are helping to hide the origin of this money.   They can only print a few Billions more to execute this strategy and this will go unnoticed, because it is toilet paper money.  

This is the only logical reason why we are seeing a constant decrease in the price, in spite of all the good progress that we have made. It also explains the large spike in the price in 2017.

Hodl on guys and gals, do not be tricked by these cheap tactics. <If this is true>    

I really liked your point of view. I agree with you that the banks could manipulate the price of bitcoin. Everyone knows that there are banks that have bought currency exchanges and they tried to influence the situation with bitcoins last year. Created a stir with the price and bots raised the price to buy and sell.

[BitcoinFX]

Crazy, right!

- http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/en/illuminati.htm

"There are three main factions of the Illuminati: Rothschilds faction, Rockefeller faction, and the Jesuit faction.
Rothschilds control Europe, Canada and the U.S. Democratic Party, the Rockefellers control the U.S., especially the Republicans, and the Middle East, while the Jesuits are in charge for the rest of the world. In the beginning, not to be mistake, all three factions operate in coordination.

Rothschilds, the Jews who financed Hitler, are ideologically inclined left, they support atheism, the Gnostics. Soros is their pawn.
There is nothing wrong with the left ideas, but let's look at Italian Prime Minister Monti and former Greek Prime Minister Papademos. Or another quasi-leftist, French President Hollande. Everyone are Bilderbergers, and everyone are resigned vassals of the Rothschilds.

How to identify vassals?
They push for the privatization of everything that normal society would never privatize; they are in favor for austerity measures, for the abolition of workers rights, dismissal of workers. They resignedly worship criminal banking system. They do not question the justification of the attack on Libya. They accept the official version of the 911, they accept deception in the form of "global warming" and "carbon tax". They accept vaccinations with poisoned vaccines. They devotionaly worship the idea of the EU, which is horribly orwellian creation. They accept "Agenda 21", which is too obvious orwellian plan under the auspices of the United Nations. They push for GMO foods, proved to be dangerous.

Rockefellers act on the Christian platform, although they have with Christianity the same as the Rothschilds with the Gnostics. These are Nazi bullies who aims to bombard all non-white nations. In a strange symbiosis together with Israel, which is a private country of the Rothschilds, they are fighting against Muslims. Among other things, their duty is to prevent the development of science and technology.

Jesuits are behind the killings of many leftist politicians in South America and Africa, and behind establishment of the military junta. Jesuits murdered Russian Tsar Nicholas II Romanov and put Lenin. They are also responsible for killing over 200 Japanese politicians. Jesuits also control China. However, in recent time the politicians of China and Japan are increasingly encouraged to disobedience. Although the Rothschilds are cheifs on the physical level, Jesuits are still superior to them. Even their Black Pope, Jesuit General, have above himself Grey Pope, one of the Ptolemaic Papal bloodline, who operate from the etheric level. But, by recent channeled information, this figure is removed from this planet since 2010.

God of the Illuminati is neither Christ nor Satan, or Lucifer. Their God is the material world. Fear, based on a tight mind awareness, they seek to alleviate by mad desire for control and domination. Anyone who tries to ajar that tight mind awareness towards the infinite consciousness - which is our true nature - for them is a mortal enemy. Intellect is the God of the Illuminati, and the love for them is something completely unknown.

The Illuminati are not at risk. They always control both sides. In 2004 Republican Party candidate George W. Bush defeated Democratic Party candidate John Kerry. Each candidate was initiated into Skull and Bones Illuminati secret society.
In every country in Europe the Illuminati control left and right political wings, there is no exception.

And finally, for the Illuminati plan to be successfully carried out, it is necessary to convince people that they are lazy, incompetent and thieves. Although there is only a small percentage of these, but by the Illuminati's dominance over the media, all media are unanimously working to convinced us in our laziness, corruption and incompetence."



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Clearly, no regard for true democratic process or for the will of the people?

- Soros Calls Trump Administration a 'Danger to the World'
- https://youtu.be/ux-_UdJyzJo

[MISERICORDAE PROJECT]

Let's consider this :

Governments cannot stop Bitcoin by stopping the technology, but they can kill the interest that people have in buying bitcoins. Could governments with the help of Banks, be behind this falling price?

Last year we saw a huge increase in the price and I was thinking that it could have been a collective buying strategy by Banks to buy a lot of coins for a synchronized dump in 2018.  

If the Banks bought a lot of coins last year at the beginning of the spike from $1000 and they triggered a buying frenzy, then most of the more expensive coins would have been bought by the public. So they might just have bought coins to trick other investors into buying more coins.

So what is their goal? Their goal will be to break the demand for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin, by gradually dumping the cheap coins that they bought at the start of last year and pushing the price down. <Like what is happening now>

They know investors will have bought at the higher end, say $10 000 to $19000 and these people would probably have lost money, when they started dumping in 2018. They saw that "demand" for Crypto currencies increased, when there is a constant increase in the price and they are now creating a constant decrease in the price to break people's confidence in the technology and also the demand for the coins.

They will obviously use untraceable methods to do this, because the Banks are helping to hide the origin of this money.   They can only print a few Billions more to execute this strategy and this will go unnoticed, because it is toilet paper money.  

This is the only logical reason why we are seeing a constant decrease in the price, in spite of all the good progress that we have made. It also explains the large spike in the price in 2017.

Hodl on guys and gals, do not be tricked by these cheap tactics. <If this is true>    

This assumption cannot be ruled out as the cause of falling Bitcoin price. It is also important to take into account the fact that Bitmain, the manufacturer of ASICs, controls more than 65% of total Bitcoin's pooling hashrates (directly & through pool networks) which generate bitcoins and therefore can have stockpiles of bitcoins to influence market pricing.

[BitcoinFX]

Bitcoin in the Holy Bible - The Book of Daniel
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167960.0

America Freedom To Fascism - Aaron Russo ?
- https://youtu.be/ub2isy55aPI

[Maiscoinyelo]

Let's consider this :

Governments cannot stop Bitcoin by stopping the technology, but they can kill the interest that people have in buying bitcoins. Could governments with the help of Banks, be behind this falling price?

Last year we saw a huge increase in the price and I was thinking that it could have been a collective buying strategy by Banks to buy a lot of coins for a synchronized dump in 2018.  

If the Banks bought a lot of coins last year at the beginning of the spike from $1000 and they triggered a buying frenzy, then most of the more expensive coins would have been bought by the public. So they might just have bought coins to trick other investors into buying more coins.

So what is their goal? Their goal will be to break the demand for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin, by gradually dumping the cheap coins that they bought at the start of last year and pushing the price down. <Like what is happening now>

They know investors will have bought at the higher end, say $10 000 to $19000 and these people would probably have lost money, when they started dumping in 2018. They saw that "demand" for Crypto currencies increased, when there is a constant increase in the price and they are now creating a constant decrease in the price to break people's confidence in the technology and also the demand for the coins.

They will obviously use untraceable methods to do this, because the Banks are helping to hide the origin of this money.   They can only print a few Billions more to execute this strategy and this will go unnoticed, because it is toilet paper money.  

This is the only logical reason why we are seeing a constant decrease in the price, in spite of all the good progress that we have made. It also explains the large spike in the price in 2017.

Hodl on guys and gals, do not be tricked by these cheap tactics. <If this is true>    

For me, I think governments and banks can not manipulate the bitcoin price because bitcoin is decentralized so how can they manipulate the price. And also governments and banks are afraid of bitcoin because they can not do anything with bitcoin so how can they manipulate the price?

[MainIbem]

You have presented a wonderful perspective to this bitcoin and market situation. But it leaves so many questions. Which bank will be doing this? How long will they continue to suppress this phenomenon? I see bitcoin and blockchain as a phenomenon. Now that volumes are drying up, what other tactics will they bring? And can all lovers of bitcoin come together to counter this move, supposing it is true?

[BitcoinFX]

DEF CON 18 - Moxie Marlinspike - Changing Threats To Privacy
- https://youtu.be/DoeNbZlxfUM?t=17m

Ronald J Deibert at TEDxToronto
- https://youtu.be/yAJ6BtZDhUk

[Doterti]

DEF CON 18 - Moxie Marlinspike - Changing Threats To Privacy
- https://youtu.be/DoeNbZlxfUM?t=17m

Ronald J Deibert at TEDxToronto
- https://youtu.be/yAJ6BtZDhUk

This issue is very helpful to the society because for me that it gives information and awareness to those who are into it to the bitcoin or in this industry and with that I think for now the government can't manipulate because many who are facilitating in this industry to avoid conflict.