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February 16, 2014, 12:26:17 PM
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Still doin trades for 10 btc! Rate is 1:1,3333 for under 10 btc and 1:1,295 for 10 btc.

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February 16, 2014, 12:35:35 PM
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I give 1 BTC for 5 GoxBTC


LOL at the lowball 20% offer.

More like 60+%, do your math son.


You are actually the one in need of math lessons.
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February 16, 2014, 12:59:42 PM
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ppl seriously, someone would explain me slowly, what's the point continuing trading goxBtcs at 70%+?

where is the business case?

this is an absolutely great deal for the seller of the GoxBTC:
- he reduces some risks associated with Gox
- he gets a liquidable BTC and can sell for tripple price on Stamp (if likes to).

and a super risky thing for the gox buyer:
- he exchanges he's liquidable btcs for a nonliquidable btcs
- he exchanges high-value asset for a low-value eqvivalent.

so it's an absolutely imbalanced supply-demand deal. The one's owning a real BTC could push for much lower prices! (30-40% let's say).

in fact, someone having some cash at gox could have made a really nice business, by cash-> buy-low-value-gox-btc -> exchange for hihg-value-btcs -sell at bitstamp.

Or? am i seeing something wrong?
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February 16, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
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ppl seriously, someone would explain me slowly, what's the point continuing trading goxBtcs at 70%+?

where is the business case?

this is an absolutely great deal for the seller of the GoxBTC:
- he reduces some risks associated with Gox
- he gets a liquidable BTC and can sell for tripple price on Stamp (if likes to).

and a super risky thing for the gox buyer:
- he exchanges he's liquidable btcs for a nonliquidable btcs
- he exchanges high-value asset for a low-value eqvivalent.

so it's an absolutely imbalanced supply-demand deal. The one's owning a real BTC could push for much lower prices! (30-40% let's say).

in fact, someone having some cash at gox could have made a really nice business, by cash-> buy-low-value-gox-btc -> exchange for hihg-value-btcs -sell at bitstamp.

Or? am i seeing something wrong?

If you ask me, the market of goxBTC/realBTC is the professional market where people are able to price things according to at least fair market information. The market inside Mt.Gox between goxBTC/goxBux is one, where:

- Nothing resembling truth is ever told to ordinary market participants.
- Both items of trade are fictional, ie. they have no real world equivalent and whether, when, and how much they have value, is fully known to Gox alone.
- Market is kept open despite that in these circumstances it should be closed - there is no legit reason for keeping it open, but doing it serves the ongoing fraud.

TL;DR: Hapless owners of goxBTC (the ones who have not even heard that Gox never pays out any fiat) are selling to get out, and will be crushed when the whip lashes to the other direction (and not even get their fiat/btc out without paying even more.
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February 16, 2014, 01:25:25 PM
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ill buy 22.5 mtgox btc for 8.325 btc

or ill buy 4000 mtgox usd for 4000 btce usd
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February 16, 2014, 01:33:29 PM
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will buy goxBTC at 50%. escrow possible (preferred bitpop´s escrow service or any in your choice).

please only serious offers!

PM me if you have interest.

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February 16, 2014, 01:36:27 PM
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ill buy your mtgox usd up to 8000 usd any ammount .
ill pay in btc-e usd
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February 16, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
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or ill buy 4000 mtgox usd for 4000 btce usd

are you really buying 1:1? this deal doesn´t seem to have any sense for me.

i would like to buy mtgox USD too but can offer only 70% of any kind of USD (PM, OKPAY, Skrill, etc.). any interest? PM me.

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February 16, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
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or ill buy 4000 mtgox usd for 4000 btce usd

are you really buying 1:1? this deal doesn´t seem to have any sense for me.

i would like to buy mtgox USD too but can offer only 70% of any kind of USD (PM, OKPAY, Skrill, etc.). any interest? PM me.

With the way the market is you could offer 125% for mtgox USD and come out ahead. 70% for mtgox USD is insane.

If you have mtgox USD buy bitcoins -> trade on *** (you can find it don't want to be accused of spaming again!*** then cash out at a real exchange.

Example -> Buy 4000 mtgox USD for 5000! (25% higher) Use that 4000 to buy bitcoins at say 280 on mtgox
Gets you 14+BTC. Trade goxbtc for real btc at say 70%. Nets you 9.8+BTC Sell those 9.8BTC for 630USD -> for more than 6000.
So even taking all kinds of cuts *EVERYWHERE* you still come out ahead.

TLDR. If you have mtgoxUSD buy bitcoins. Why would you sell them for less on here. I was able to get my fiat off of Gox and come ahead by a lot and so can you.
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February 16, 2014, 02:06:18 PM
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I'd like to purchase GoxBTC with Paypal @ US$209ea

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February 16, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
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ill buy 8000 mtgox usd for 8000 btce usd

or any amount
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February 16, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
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Want to BUY 2000USD mt gox for 2000USD btc-e

I want to buy cheap coins on mt gox.

Contact me at burlet1975@gmail.com
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February 16, 2014, 02:13:32 PM
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ill buy 7500 7200 mtgox usd for 8000 btce usd

thats 9:10 ratio. very good deal
every 900 usd i will give 1000 usd
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February 16, 2014, 02:17:39 PM
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still buying for 10btc. I can also trade gox € against fiat, rates for that are negotiable per pm.

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February 16, 2014, 02:19:58 PM
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are you really buying 1:1? this deal doesn't seem to have any sense for me.

There are two types of trading happening.

BTC for MtgoxBTC: The USD value of the BTC at MtGox vs other exchanges indirectly matters on what you will pay or accept, but when you do a trade for say 70% you are basically giving up liquidity to get a huge return on your BTC if MtGox eventually sorts it all out and you can withdrawal your MtgoxBTC from them normally down the road. Doing 1:1 trade here would make no sense.

USD BTC for USD MtgoxBTC: This is the same trade but you are pegging the exchange rate to the difference between the USD value on the exchanges. If BTC-E is $500 and MtGox is $250, then you are doing the same trade as paying 50% above. For a $1000 trade, it'd be 2 real BTC ($1000) for 4 Mtgox BTC ($1000).

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February 16, 2014, 02:29:10 PM
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Would like to buy 2 realBTC for €'s @ mtgox+10% rate. I can put an equal amount of BTC into sebastianju escrow and he returns it to me when you get the bank transfers or if i wouldn't pay you could still get your btc back from sebastian... fair?

I am in the Netherlands, and I just got scammed and need to refill my btc's

please pm me I am willing to pay up to 333€ per BTC

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February 16, 2014, 02:37:32 PM
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are you really buying 1:1? this deal doesn't seem to have any sense for me.

There are two types of trading happening.

BTC for MtgoxBTC: The USD value of the BTC at MtGox vs other exchanges indirectly matters on what you will pay or accept, but when you do a trade for say 70% you are basically giving up liquidity to get a huge return on your BTC if MtGox eventually sorts it all out and you can withdrawal your MtgoxBTC from them normally down the road. Doing 1:1 trade here would make no sense.

USD BTC for USD MtgoxBTC: This is the same trade but you are pegging the exchange rate to the difference between the USD value on the exchanges. If BTC-E is $500 and MtGox is $250, then you are doing the same trade as paying 50% above. For a $1000 trade, it'd be 2 real BTC ($1000) for 4 Mtgox BTC ($1000).

Bititcoinbuilder provides raw history data but I couldn't find a chart so I made one:

http://us-east.royalminingco.com/builder/


good point! i still would not pay more for goxUSD than 1:1, because in this case i could better fund my gox-acc just directly. so if interest, just PM me!

Very interested to buy goxBTC for real BTC. make me an offer and we can negotiate out good deal for both sides!

Enjoy your life!
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February 16, 2014, 02:42:31 PM
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are you really buying 1:1? this deal doesn't seem to have any sense for me.

There are two types of trading happening.

BTC for MtgoxBTC: The USD value of the BTC at MtGox vs other exchanges indirectly matters on what you will pay or accept, but when you do a trade for say 70% you are basically giving up liquidity to get a huge return on your BTC if MtGox eventually sorts it all out and you can withdrawal your MtgoxBTC from them normally down the road. Doing 1:1 trade here would make no sense.

USD BTC for USD MtgoxBTC: This is the same trade but you are pegging the exchange rate to the difference between the USD value on the exchanges. If BTC-E is $500 and MtGox is $250, then you are doing the same trade as paying 50% above. For a $1000 trade, it'd be 2 real BTC ($1000) for 4 Mtgox BTC ($1000).

Bititcoinbuilder provides raw history data but I couldn't find a chart so I made one:

http://us-east.royalminingco.com/builder/


good point! i still would not pay more for goxUSD than 1:1, because in this case i could better fund my gox-acc just directly. so if interest, just PM me!

Very interested to buy goxBTC for real BTC. make me an offer and we can negotiate out good deal for both sides!

ill pay 10% higher .
ill buy 7200 mtgox usd for 8000 btce usd

send me pm
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February 16, 2014, 03:00:55 PM
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i have 1 GoxBTC for sale for 0.7 BTC

anyone interested?

burlet1975@gmail.com
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February 16, 2014, 03:14:09 PM
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ppl seriously, someone would explain me slowly, what's the point continuing trading goxBtcs at 70%+?

where is the business case?

this is an absolutely great deal for the seller of the GoxBTC:
- he reduces some risks associated with Gox
- he gets a liquidable BTC and can sell for tripple price on Stamp (if likes to).

and a super risky thing for the gox buyer:
- he exchanges he's liquidable btcs for a nonliquidable btcs
- he exchanges high-value asset for a low-value eqvivalent.

so it's an absolutely imbalanced supply-demand deal. The one's owning a real BTC could push for much lower prices! (30-40% let's say).

in fact, someone having some cash at gox could have made a really nice business, by cash-> buy-low-value-gox-btc -> exchange for hihg-value-btcs -sell at bitstamp.

Or? am i seeing something wrong?

There are two reasons really. Someone sending cash to gox to buy bitcoins might not get it there in time (they might fix their issue first). The second reason is because a lot of peoples wealth is already in bitcoin and they don't want to sell bitcoin, deposit that to their bank and have it be seen by the eyes of tax organizations.
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