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June 28, 2018, 02:13:26 PM
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I know they are able to lock. But question is I have posted a scam ICO thread and manager has been temporary ban. So manager will not able to lock thread. Important thing this is bounty thread and people are still reporting their work. That means they are wasting time. Because they are not aware about that. So they are still promoting. I have reported to moderator multiple time to lock the thread. But may be they are not consider it as a scam.

I think I posted enough proof to say scam.

My thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4476252.msg40190599#msg40190599
Bounty thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3963215.0

I will request to moderator for lock their bounty thread to avoid spam and loss of time forum members.

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June 28, 2018, 02:15:18 PM
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Scams aren't moderated so they are unlikely to get involved even if proven. You can let others know via another thread like you have done or by contacting those that are "wasting their time", but the moderators will not lock or do anything due to scams not being moderated.

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June 28, 2018, 02:46:54 PM
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I know they are able to lock. But question is I have posted a scam ICO thread and manager has been temporary ban. So manager will not able to lock thread. Important thing this is bounty thread and people are still reporting their work. That means they are wasting time. Because they are not aware about that. So they are still promoting. I have reported to moderator multiple time to lock the thread. But may be they are not consider it as a scam.

I think I posted enough proof to say scam.

My thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4476252.msg40190599#msg40190599
Bounty thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3963215.0

I will request to moderator for lock their bounty thread to avoid spam and loss of time forum members.

Forum members are not aware because they are not paying attention. They will just post and post and post even the project is now a scam or whatever announcement posted on the bounty thread. This is common especially for those bounty hunters

Not just in scam issue but there are bounty threads where there are still lots of posted reports even the bounty was either paused, ended, changed of bounty manager etc.

So if it's not able to be locked or go to trash then let those participants waste their time until they came to the point to check what the heck is going on. No worries about extended advertisement because I believed investors will always check any projects before throwing money at it.

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June 28, 2018, 03:12:36 PM
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You have done enough as you even warned the participants part of the bounty campaign about the scam ICO. Moderators cannot handle this kinds of  scams as literally there are a lot and it is up to some DT members and members like you to tagged them for the good of the forum. For the unknowing members part of the campaign it is not our fault as they haven't done their own research unlike you, they just join and join all the bounty campaign opportunity they are seeing, but they will most likely stop reporting in the campaign as soon as they figured out they are not receiving any kind of payment.

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August 14, 2018, 05:55:52 AM
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Scams aren't moderated so they are unlikely to get involved even if proven. You can let others know via another thread like you have done or by contacting those that are "wasting their time", but the moderators will not lock or do anything due to scams not being moderated.

Finally they scammed people. I was requested to lock that thread, but it wasn't happened. Ann was locked by manager but bounty thread wasn't locked. If case is about fake team and there is enough proof like I was given, similar bounty and ANN Thread should be removed. Because no one is blind here, every one will able to see that really team is fake or not. If team picture collected from stock image website or over internet, there is clear forecast they can scam any time. This kind of ICO thread should locked at least.

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August 14, 2018, 07:31:01 AM
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I think it is under control.  Grin
marlboroza has already put a notice on there.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3963215.msg42731956#msg42731956


THIS ICO IS SCAM.

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August 14, 2018, 08:34:11 AM
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I will request to moderator for lock their bounty thread to avoid spam and loss of time forum members.

So if it's not able to be locked or go to trash then let those participants waste their time until they came to the point to check what the heck is going on. No worries about extended advertisement because I believed investors will always check any projects before throwing money at it.
I think "Coolcryptovator" has a point. He is highlighting the fact that this project has been already known as scam(thanks to "Coolcryptovator") and their bounty thread is still feeding the spammers. I think we aren't talking about the time wasted by underworld bounty freaks, but the valuble time of Mods where they can spend for hunting down tricky spam word spin bots and other shitposters. Who cares about those participants(spammers) still posting even after marlboroza's warning?

Investors will always check before they invest those scam ICO's, but we should be worried about the time of mods/other members who reports by wasting their time. I think mods should not followed rules ( "scams are not moderated" ) blindly. Because as far my knowledge this is clear cut case. There are several threads always being created in Meta that how we reduses spam in the bitcointalk forum. But when someone pointing out clear cut case with proofs, why Mods can't locked or trash that thread without allowing to clog the forum by participants of that scam project spammers.

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August 14, 2018, 02:11:04 PM
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Scams aren't moderated so they are unlikely to get involved even if proven. You can let others know via another thread like you have done or by contacting those that are "wasting their time", but the moderators will not lock or do anything due to scams not being moderated.

You're right, they can use alternative way to announce the scam project. Maybe it's the right time to set a moderator for a scam project and give a best shot warning to the bounty manager who is incompetent in reviewing the project before promoting it. Therefore i suggest that scam project should be reported, moderated and close.

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August 14, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
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I will request to moderator for lock their bounty thread to avoid spam and loss of time forum members.

So if it's not able to be locked or go to trash then let those participants waste their time until they came to the point to check what the heck is going on. No worries about extended advertisement because I believed investors will always check any projects before throwing money at it.
I think "Coolcryptovator" has a point. He is highlighting the fact that this project has been already known as scam(thanks to "Coolcryptovator") and their bounty thread is still feeding the spammers. I think we aren't talking about the time wasted by underworld bounty freaks, but the valuble time of Mods where they can spend for hunting down tricky spam word spin bots and other shitposters. Who cares about those participants(spammers) still posting even after marlboroza's warning?

Investors will always check before they invest those scam ICO's, but we should be worried about the time of mods/other members who reports by wasting their time. I think mods should not followed rules ( "scams are not moderated" ) blindly. Because as far my knowledge this is clear cut case. There are several threads always being created in Meta that how we reduses spam in the bitcointalk forum. But when someone pointing out clear cut case with proofs, why Mods can't locked or trash that thread without allowing to clog the forum by participants of that scam project spammers.



Scams aren't moderated so they are unlikely to get involved even if proven. You can let others know via another thread like you have done or by contacting those that are "wasting their time", but the moderators will not lock or do anything due to scams not being moderated.

You're right, they can use alternative way to announce the scam project. Maybe it's the right time to set a moderator for a scam project and give a best shot warning to the bounty manager who is incompetent in reviewing the project before promoting it. Therefore i suggest that scam project should be reported, moderated and close.

Answered in detail here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4818411.msg43580748#msg43580748

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August 15, 2018, 03:25:28 AM
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@xtraelv thanks for your consice explanation, but I'm not talking about banning the scammers.(it's like gray area wether banned or not) My only concern is why mods are not choosing the easy way to avoid spam but choosing the hardway (consuming lot of times) by allowing first place to post and then moderate post by post.

What would be the mods response if I report one of that post by giving proofs of scam? Is that remain unhadled or marked as bad?
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