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July 12, 2018, 01:26:49 AM
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The signed message isn't rock-solid evidence you're the original owner
Did anybody manage to verify it? I tried to and it said that it wasn't valid. This was by using Electrum, by the way.
I might be doing something wrong with the whitespace characters (sometimes messages include those accidentally)

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July 12, 2018, 02:21:55 AM
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The signed message isn't rock-solid evidence you're the original owner
Did anybody manage to verify it? I tried to and it said that it wasn't valid. This was by using Electrum, by the way.
I might be doing something wrong with the whitespace characters (sometimes messages include those accidentally)
I tried it too and it failed to verify.

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July 12, 2018, 04:47:04 AM
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The signed message isn't rock-solid evidence you're the original owner
Did anybody manage to verify it? I tried to and it said that it wasn't valid. This was by using Electrum, by the way.
I might be doing something wrong with the whitespace characters (sometimes messages include those accidentally)
I tried it too and it failed to verify.
It verifies on Brainwalletx if you use the Bitcoin-QT option and make sure that there is a space after the date:



It also verifies in Bitcoin Core (again, you need the space at the end of the date):



Like the others, I could not get it to verify in Electrum... perhaps Electrum is stripping trailing whitespace? Huh

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July 12, 2018, 06:32:43 AM
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It'll be interesting to see what happens if aTriz actually gets back into the campaign management game.  I'm sure people will be willing to flock to those campaigns, but the problem is in getting hired to manage any with the feedback he's got.
As long as there are shady ICOs/campaigns around, aTriz should have no trouble getting hired to manage campaigns.

jamalaezaz has a decent amount of controversy around the campaigns he manages and he allegedly has gotten a decent amount of business since these controversies. He probably can even hold the ICO tokens necessary to pay bounty participants because if he tries to pull any shenanigans, it would be trivial for the company behind the ICO to resolve this issue by invalidating stolen tokens in one of many ways.

This is one reason why I am against using the trust system against those who are not suspected of planning on trying to steal money or property from others in the future (or have not attempted to steal the same already).

I would say the totality of the circumstances indicate that aTriz never cared about the community and has only ever cared about his personal finances. 

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July 21, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
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As Actmyname didn't accepted the last message coz that wasn't verified to him (it was verified to me and to other users) so I am posting a newly signed message again:

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
aTriz is still in my possession. 7/21/2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm
Signature: H9oUlV8r1WPDqYBtIl6JmGF027SEuRAfpeUxYt9ZyKJlEAyb9thWjNcvgBi5vYWdqH4T4Wxfcd/VJ/24viHwfBo=

-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Hope this time it will work.

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July 21, 2018, 09:42:07 PM
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Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
aTriz is still in my possession. 7/21/2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm
Signature: H9oUlV8r1WPDqYBtIl6JmGF027SEuRAfpeUxYt9ZyKJlEAyb9thWjNcvgBi5vYWdqH4T4Wxfcd/VJ/24viHwfBo=

-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Hope this time it will work.
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July 22, 2018, 03:44:19 PM
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Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
aTriz is still in my possession. 7/21/2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm
Signature: H9oUlV8r1WPDqYBtIl6JmGF027SEuRAfpeUxYt9ZyKJlEAyb9thWjNcvgBi5vYWdqH4T4Wxfcd/VJ/24viHwfBo=

-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Hope this time it will work.
Message verified with https://tools.bitcoin.com/verify-message/
I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced scammy bounty manager bought it).
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July 22, 2018, 06:45:21 PM
Last edit: July 22, 2018, 06:56:39 PM by marlboroza
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I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced scammy bounty manager bought it).
Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.


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July 24, 2018, 06:45:29 AM
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I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced scammy bounty manager bought it).
Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.

OP lock topic.

What about signing from that other wallet address you've used 1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri ??

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July 24, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
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I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced scammy bounty manager bought it).
Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.


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Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act?

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Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues.


Oh, that's alright then.
Asshole behavior.

Yes I know lol..
but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties.

so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment..

I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home).
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July 24, 2018, 07:54:51 PM
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Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act?
I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.

I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil.

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July 27, 2018, 09:41:35 AM
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Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act?
I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.

I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil.

I have seen Bounty managers having double digit negs and still getting campaigns... So I dunno if it will be a handicap if he still tries to get campaigns...

Anyways a three digit neg might be better for safety... Grin
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July 27, 2018, 10:40:49 AM
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Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act?
I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.

I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil.

I have seen Bounty managers having double digit negs and still getting campaigns... So I dunno if it will be a handicap if he still tries to get campaigns...

Anyways a three digit neg might be better for safety... Grin

I am working on those issues which caused the neg reps.. and I hope they won't be here for long.

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July 27, 2018, 05:37:39 PM
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Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act?
I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.

I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil.

I have seen Bounty managers having double digit negs and still getting campaigns... So I dunno if it will be a handicap if he still tries to get campaigns...

Anyways a three digit neg might be better for safety... Grin

I am working on those issues which caused the neg reps.. and I hope they won't be here for long.

So u expect people to remove your neg...

Why should they?

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So u expect people to remove your neg...

Why should they?
Apparently he's paying people back, which is a good sign, but I think he's got a very long way to go.  I also have my doubts as to whether anyone would remove their neg from his trust page even after he's paid off his debts.

I also have serious doubts as to whether the person behind the aTriz account is the same person I dealt with some months ago when I was in his campaigns.  The command of English is definitely different, which I've expressed before and which aTriz hasn't addressed.  And the story about letting someone use his account to earn money was a weird one.  Even with the signed message he provided I have doubts--and I'm sure others do as well.  

aTriz was an excellent campaign manager, but I'd be wary of hiring him as a manager again with all of these doubts.

His style of writing was never very good except in cases where he really was trying to write properly and/or had others double check the grammar. It's what I call lazy writing; quite common among friends in IM chats.
Lauda, glad to see you more active as of late! 

I get what you're saying, but his most recent posts differ from the PMs I got from him a while back.  It doesn't sound like a lazy style but rather a different grasp of language.  I could be wrong, but it's weird.

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The command of English is definitely different, which I've expressed before and which aTriz hasn't addressed. 
His style of writing was never very good except in cases where he really was trying to write properly and/or had others double check the grammar. It's what I call lazy writing; quite common among friends in IM chats.

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July 27, 2018, 11:52:25 PM
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It's what I call lazy writing; quite common among friends in IM chats.
I've had a hard time understanding his messages, because of the abreviations and slang. This is probably easier to understand for native English speakers.
My guess would be typing is much more "lazy" when he uses a phone than when he uses a computer with full size keyboard.

So u expect people to remove your neg...

Why should they?
Apparently he's paying people back, which is a good sign, but I think he's got a very long way to go.  I also have my doubts as to whether anyone would remove their neg from his trust page even after he's paid off his debts.
Out of 5 individuals, some may remove it, some won't. But that doesn't matter now, as aTriz has to solve things first.

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aTriz was an excellent campaign manager, but I'd be wary of hiring him as a manager again with all of these doubts.
Campaign management doesn't necessarily mean the campaign manager is in charge of any funds.

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I get what you're saying, but his most recent posts differ from the PMs I got from him a while back.  It doesn't sound like a lazy style but rather a different grasp of language.  I could be wrong, but it's weird.
I tend to believe the story that someone temporarily used the account. Judging by the latest posts, that person is gone, and aTriz is doing some campaigns again.

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July 28, 2018, 08:05:46 AM
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It was definitely sold more recently. There may have been someone breaking into his account. I trust aTriz very much. Hope he will return soon with a stronger investment account. It was definitely sold more recently.
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July 28, 2018, 09:35:17 AM
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Well that still didn't explain why he left a lot of Bounty in the middle and I think even took off with tokens without computing sheets.

If even by repaying, people remove their neg which he got for being a liar and co-conspirator... I would be forced to doubt the parameters of the individuals...

As it is I feel he has got special treatment as a paw licker...

Long live the greedy scammy racist coterie...
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his most recent posts differ from the PMs I got from him a while back.  It doesn't sound like a lazy style but rather a different grasp of language.  I could be wrong, but it's weird.
so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week

He hired someone to make posts from his account for him.

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