Compare pools: MiddleCoin/CleverMining/HashCows/WafflePool/Hashbros

[TheLarger]

You guys should really try www.altcoinspool.com >> new/young pool with a great owner!
Im currently mining at it, but we need a bit more mhs so its more prof for all of us

[zer0k]

You guys should really try www.altcoinspool.com >> new/young pool with a great owner!
Im currently mining at it, but we need a bit more mhs so its more prof for all of us

Profitability (BTC/1Mhash/24hr):
Mar-01: 0.00574085
Feb-28: 0.00844617
Feb-26: 0.00423872

Seems a bit on the low side

[110110101]

Something to consider is what the multipool is in fact mining. The pools that are mining away on the more profitable coins, especially your new hot altcoin de jour, seem to have a higher output compared to a pool mining more mature coins. That could possibly explain why hashcows has been more profitable these past few days, all according to poolpicker.eu
I can not say anything for the longer period as I just switched to this kind of pool mining one week ago.

[daynomate]

Another new one to add - coinshift.com

[Deroba]

someone make a multimultipool.
connects to the most profitable multipool

I was actually thinking of making this.

[grendel25]

someone make a multimultipool.
connects to the most profitable multipool

I was actually thinking of making this.

My understanding is that this would undermine the components of PPLNS that make it successful.  Basically, the longer you stay with one PPLNS the more you get and it can take over 24 hours for the full profitability to be reached.  For such a thing to work it would have to be able to evaluate and project profitability encompassing time spans over 24 hours.  This would be really something.  For now, it's just as well to use something like pool picker.  Just watch it day by day and see how various pools are doing and then make your decision or change up based on weekly trends.   

[brooklynite]

The results are in! The winner is CleverMining!

CleverMining	0,0429
WafflePool	0,0423
Hashcows	0,0327
Hashbros	0,0306
CoinSolver	0,0262
MiddleCoin Amsterdam	0,0223

It was a close call between CleverMining and WafflePool, they gave me practically the same results. However, CleverMining has a high reject rate (10-30%), with closer servers coming in the future I expect higher payouts. MiddleCoin admitted they had problems with stats and founding blocks, so their result may not be representative over the long term, as said earlier they gave me the highest payout before. Unfortunately, Hashbros announced they will shut down soon - so they don't really count anymore. And for some reason I can't find my results for the MiddleCoin EU mining.

tl;dr: Mine on CleverMining or Wafflepool

That is absolutely not true right now. Celvermining did about 0.007 in the past two days I am with them. Pretty disappointed. I just made my electricity money.

Previously I did 0.0109 on my own mining different coins and trading for BTC. I\t did take about 4 hours a day of my time but it was fun too.

[zneww]

The results are in! The winner is CleverMining!

CleverMining	0,0429
WafflePool	0,0423
Hashcows	0,0327
Hashbros	0,0306
CoinSolver	0,0262
MiddleCoin Amsterdam	0,0223

It was a close call between CleverMining and WafflePool, they gave me practically the same results. However, CleverMining has a high reject rate (10-30%), with closer servers coming in the future I expect higher payouts. MiddleCoin admitted they had problems with stats and founding blocks, so their result may not be representative over the long term, as said earlier they gave me the highest payout before. Unfortunately, Hashbros announced they will shut down soon - so they don't really count anymore. And for some reason I can't find my results for the MiddleCoin EU mining.

tl;dr: Mine on CleverMining or Wafflepool

That is absolutely not true right now. Celvermining did about 0.007 in the past two days I am with them. Pretty disappointed. I just made my electricity money.

Previously I did 0.0109 on my own mining different coins and trading for BTC. I\t did take about 4 hours a day of my time but it was fun too.

Note the date posted...

[FoFFiFFe]

That is absolutely not true right now. Celvermining did about 0.007 in the past two days I am with them. Pretty disappointed. I just made my electricity money.

Previously I did 0.0109 on my own mining different coins and trading for BTC. I\t did take about 4 hours a day of my time but it was fun too.

I think you're a little upset but this is wrong.

Clevermining past days:

February 28, 2014: 0.012434 BTC
March 1, 2014: 0.011097 BTC
March 2, 2014: 0.009461 BTC
March 3, 2014: 0.007927 BTC

[zneww]

That is absolutely not true right now. Celvermining did about 0.007 in the past two days I am with them. Pretty disappointed. I just made my electricity money.

Previously I did 0.0109 on my own mining different coins and trading for BTC. I\t did take about 4 hours a day of my time but it was fun too.

I think you're a little upset but this is wrong.

Clevermining past days:

February 28, 2014: 0.012434 BTC
March 1, 2014: 0.011097 BTC
March 2, 2014: 0.009461 BTC
March 3, 2014: 0.007927 BTC

Where are you gettin those stats? If it's the CM website, lol. This guy is giving you an actual report of what he mined. Not what the site said he mined.

[FoFFiFFe]

That is absolutely not true right now. Celvermining did about 0.007 in the past two days I am with them. Pretty disappointed. I just made my electricity money.

Previously I did 0.0109 on my own mining different coins and trading for BTC. I\t did take about 4 hours a day of my time but it was fun too.

Where are you gettin those stats? If it's the CM website, lol. This guy is giving you an actual report of what he mined. Not what the site said he mined.

No, he talks about clevermining. I'm in too with a rig of 1MH to test. The stats reported on CM website are accurate.

[zneww]

That is absolutely not true right now. Celvermining did about 0.007 in the past two days I am with them. Pretty disappointed. I just made my electricity money.

Previously I did 0.0109 on my own mining different coins and trading for BTC. I\t did take about 4 hours a day of my time but it was fun too.

Where are you gettin those stats? If it's the CM website, lol. This guy is giving you an actual report of what he mined. Not what the site said he mined.

No, he talks about clevermining. I'm in too with a rig of 1MH to test. The stats reported on CM website are accurate.

He was also posting on something out of date as I stated.

[zer0k]

A little more detail - http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

Code:

Date	Middlecoin	CleverMining	WafflePool	HashCows
2014-03-03	0.01187651	0.00749700	0.00867769	0.01190000
2014-03-02	0.01135217	0.00855300	0.00954890	0.01180000
2014-03-01	0.00368074	0.01067100	0.00753175	0.01420000
2014-02-28	0.00642675	0.01242000	0.00850992	0.01460000
2014-02-27	0.00573754	0.01062800	0.00940643	0.01500000
2014-02-26	0.01578309	0.00924100	0.01010797	0.01220000
2014-02-25	0.00526241	0.01061100	0.00921169	0.00980000
2014-02-24	0.01075826	0.01103200	0.00970608	0.00790000
2014-02-23	0.00827561	0.01016500	0.01150279	0.00900000
2014-02-22	0.00660157	0.00990000	0.01070519	0.00890000
2014-02-21	0.01060504	0.01059800	0.00977449	0.00890000
2014-02-20	0.00226127	0.01071400	0.00888805	0.00790000
2014-02-19	0.00541384	0.01241500	0.00912344	0.01050000
2014-02-18	0.00450624	0.01036800	0.00931525	0.00890000
2014-02-17	0.00568690	0.01460700	0.01226442	0.00830000
2014-02-16	0.01415091	0.01092800	0.01591898	0.00810000
2014-02-15	0.00415098	0.01196900	0.00777331	0.00760000
2014-02-14	0.01118497	0.01210000	0.00986297	0.00880000
2014-02-13	0.00948603	0.00813000	0.00649803	0.01150000
2014-02-12	0.01518515	0.01018500	0.01196965	0.01030000
2014-02-11	0.01729621	0.01139800	0.01161954	0.01050000
2014-02-10	0.01623402	0.01214700	0.01622929	0.01130000
2014-02-09	0.01220232	0.00834100	0.00969221	0.00780000
2014-02-08	0.01319662	0.00978200	0	0.00720000
2014-02-07	0.01236526	0.00946900	0	0.00820000
2014-02-06	0.01183198	0.01197600	0	0.00830000
2014-02-05	0.01512677	0.01070300	0	0.00910000
2014-02-04	0.01833986	0.01398100	0	0.00980000
2014-02-03	0.00807895	0.01369300	0	0.00850000

[TheSmo]

Thanks, donated a few Satoshis.

[brooklynite]

So far exactly 100 hours of up time on Clevermining, I started Sunday March 2 and here are my results:

My hashrate according to Multiminer 2.67MH/s (less than 1% reject)
My hashrate according to Cleverminig 2.20MH/s (about 12% reject)

Overall profits in 4 days 4 hours (100 hours) = 0.06873 BTC
Divided by 100hrs * 24  = 0.01632 BTC / MH/s /Day
Daily profit based on my ACTUAL 2.67MH/s hashrate in 4 days =  0.006177 / MH.s/ Day <-- Not very pleased 

In all fairness its been really bad in the past two weeks, and it may be getting worse. All January Coinwarz used to show I can make 1 BTC in 30 days or less with my RIG (thats 0.012 BTC/MH/Day). My personal avg switching coins manually every few hours using new altcoins and coinwarz yielded me 0.0108 BTC/Day per MH. Not soo bad, but it took about 4 hours of my day. with Clevermining now I spend 4 minutes a day just making sure its up and running.

So where is all this hashrate coming from? AMD is continuously out of stock everywhere. I think there may be lot more ASICs than we know of that stupid 70kh/s USB dual miner BS. There may be Gigahash ASICs coming out for Scrypt and not advertised yet and this has started specially since early February.

Maybe I should switch to VTC. But I have no idea how to calculate profitability for that. The Windows miner is not on Vertcoin.org and even when it was it raised all kinds of virus alerts when I downloaded it first time so I deleted it back then.

[brooklynite]

A little more detail - http://poolpicker.eu/text.php

Code:

Date	Middlecoin	CleverMining	WafflePool	HashCows

2014-02-03	0.00807895	0.01369300	0	0.00850000

What POOLPICKER doesnt take into consideration is actual hashrate vs pool accepted hashrate. In my case with Cleverminig there is a big difference.

[zneww]

Now, I did a short two day comparison with CoinSolver and CleverMining.

It appears during these two days that CoinSolver did beat out Clever.

Two payouts from Clever: 0.01036633 BTC and 0.01075317 BTC for my 2Mh/s

One payout from CoinSolver for two day(Exchange issue): 0.022693226 BTC or 0.011346613 BTC for 2 days.

After that, I only had one payout from CS be near CM, which was 0.0104 and that being my lowest payout from CS.

Not a lot of time or data, but preliminary results. CoinSolver is only getting better.

[grendel25]

So far exactly 100 hours of up time on Clevermining, I started Sunday March 2 and here are my results:

My hashrate according to Multiminer 2.67MH/s (less than 1% reject)
My hashrate according to Cleverminig 2.20MH/s (about 12% reject)

Overall profits in 4 days 4 hours (100 hours) = 0.06873 BTC
Divided by 100hrs * 24  = 0.01632 BTC / MH/s /Day
Daily profit based on my ACTUAL 2.67MH/s hashrate in 4 days =  0.006177 / MH.s/ Day <-- Not very pleased 

In all fairness its been really bad in the past two weeks, and it may be getting worse. All January Coinwarz used to show I can make 1 BTC in 30 days or less with my RIG (thats 0.012 BTC/MH/Day). My personal avg switching coins manually every few hours using new altcoins and coinwarz yielded me 0.0108 BTC/Day per MH. Not soo bad, but it took about 4 hours of my day. with Clevermining now I spend 4 minutes a day just making sure its up and running.

So where is all this hashrate coming from? AMD is continuously out of stock everywhere. I think there may be lot more ASICs than we know of that stupid 70kh/s USB dual miner BS. There may be Gigahash ASICs coming out for Scrypt and not advertised yet and this has started specially since early February.

Maybe I should switch to VTC. But I have no idea how to calculate profitability for that. The Windows miner is not on Vertcoin.org and even when it was it raised all kinds of virus alerts when I downloaded it first time so I deleted it back then.

I wouldn't attribute the drop in scrypt profitability entirely to a boost in scrypt mining power.  Performance of all exchanges were impacted by the gox fiasco.  That hasn't fully worked out and from what I read it is possible there is another exchange that may also have issues (crypcy?).  Hopefully it all works out.  But another issue is a possible alt coin bubble to burst.  Doge made a lot of people rich.. but at what cost?  That energy will also disperse.  So, there are likely other bubbles to burst and growing pains to endure as digital currency evolves. 

[CoinBuzz]

anybody mine on coinshift.com ?

Seems that they are open to public again.

any experience with them ?

[SamE]

anybody mine on coinshift.com ?

Seems that they are open to public again.

any experience with them ?

Ive had 1MH pointed at Coinshift for 3 days now. The pool is stable, rejects are very low. Results are less than I was hoping, around .006 per MH. I love the concept though, and the results are not so bad that I'd leave. I'm only getting slightly better results at Clevermining.