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February 17, 2014, 05:20:12 PM |
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As advertising, this is pretty annoying and quite intrusive. As an address-linking scheme, it's almost hilariously incompetent. It appears that primarily cold wallets have been targeted. Which suggests that most people who get these satoshis won't even notice they were sent before the transactions get dropped. Even if any of the transactions confirm, going after wallets (and change addresses) which might not be accessed for months or years, if ever, doesn't exactly seem like an ideal way to go about this. As an attack, spreading FUD and jamming some wallets... well, seems like it's actually had some effectiveness in that regard. Temporarily, at least. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Raize
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February 17, 2014, 09:21:18 PM Last edit: February 17, 2014, 09:42:55 PM by Raize |
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This sort of anonymous donating has happened since 2010. Theymos even mentioned it as a problem back then. The developers have done various things over the years to try to fix these, but they never truly seem to go away. The difference today is that these are now more than just annoying and, rather, malicious in nature since they are capable of publicly identifying owners of coin.
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rmines
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February 17, 2014, 09:24:28 PM |
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Luckily did not receive any so far.
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grifferz
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February 17, 2014, 10:20:58 PM |
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The difference today is that these are now more than just annoying and, rather, malicious in nature since they are capable of publicly identifying owners of coin.
How will it allow identification, when the transactions never confirm?
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arcbit
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February 17, 2014, 10:50:48 PM |
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I got one of these unconfirmed transactions also, but the strange thing is that the receiving address is not even an address that my qt wallet has in the address book. How could this transaction even associate to my wallet with an address I don't have?
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grifferz
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February 17, 2014, 11:01:07 PM |
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I got one of these unconfirmed transactions also, but the strange thing is that the receiving address is not even an address that my qt wallet has in the address book. How could this transaction even associate to my wallet with an address I don't have?
Please, please, please read some of the existing threads on this before asking a new question.The blockchain is public. Every address you have ever used to make a transaction is public. Anyone can find addresses that have ever been used. If I send a Satoshi to every address in the blockchain, you'll get an unconfirmed Satoshi from me, yet I do not know it is you.
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February 17, 2014, 11:07:15 PM |
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0.00000001 BTC I did not recieve any of those and I am happy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) because if I will not read any news I would not know about any problems with bitcoin ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) just a price drop a bit... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 17, 2014, 11:38:07 PM |
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I got one of these unconfirmed transactions also, but the strange thing is that the receiving address is not even an address that my qt wallet has in the address book. How could this transaction even associate to my wallet with an address I don't have?
Please, please, please read some of the existing threads on this before asking a new question.The blockchain is public. Every address you have ever used to make a transaction is public. Anyone can find addresses that have ever been used. If I send a Satoshi to every address in the blockchain, you'll get an unconfirmed Satoshi from me, yet I do not know it is you. I am trying to understand your answer. The disconnect I still have is that the receiving address of the unconfirmed tran, is not even one in my wallet. My wallet has address a, b, c, d in it, for example. The unconfirmed tran is trying to send to address x. I don't use address x, and never have. Why is it even in my transactions list??
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joae1975
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February 18, 2014, 12:32:54 AM |
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So how do you even send 1 satishi without a fee? None of my wallets will let me.
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grifferz
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February 18, 2014, 12:42:43 AM |
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So how do you even send 1 satishi without a fee? None of my wallets will let me.
Bitcoin has a published protocol which it is possible to write clients for, and make them do things which are possible but not advisable—such as sending 1 satoshi with no tx fee.
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February 18, 2014, 01:56:45 AM Last edit: February 18, 2014, 07:15:02 AM by dyask |
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So how do you even send 1 satishi without a fee? None of my wallets will let me.
Bitcoin has a published protocol which it is possible to write clients for, and make them do things which are possible but not advisable—such as sending 1 satoshi with no tx fee. Seems like that protocol should be changed to not allow sending anything less than what a transaction fee would be. If you are going to spam you should pay the miners.
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grifferz
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February 18, 2014, 02:22:55 AM |
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That is already the case. The only change needed is in clients, to have them not display an available balance that isn't spendable (because of zero confirmations)
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February 18, 2014, 09:38:33 AM |
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Many of these 1-satoshi tx do eventually confirm, don't they? They wiggle in eventually via the <100K "free" section most miners still allow?
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February 18, 2014, 09:48:56 AM |
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So is someone seriously trying to dust every used address?
Or atleast good part of them...
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February 18, 2014, 11:03:36 AM |
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Well I got dusted but the satoshi sent is in perpetual limbo and its only been 2 days should be gone soon enough ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 18, 2014, 11:07:11 AM |
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i always laugh at people calling cryptocurrencies anonymous. its so hilarious. in fact fiat is actually infinitely more anonymous than any crypto that will ever be invented.
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February 18, 2014, 11:43:05 AM |
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I received 2 in my wallets and they just stand pending for long time and do nothing.
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troy112
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February 18, 2014, 11:44:52 AM |
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I don't even want it. Because they will increase the fees when next time i'll be sending. Is there any way you could cancel the incoming transaction? I think nobody thought of putting it, because every one likes money coming it..huh?
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grifferz
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February 18, 2014, 03:20:19 PM |
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They will not increase your fees because they will never be spendable.
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February 18, 2014, 03:28:33 PM |
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When I click on the transaction and then check it on blockchain, it basically tells me that the transaction cannot be found. I have around 8 of these so-called transactions in my wallet currently.
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