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July 06, 2018, 03:54:34 PM
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When I looked at the article in the reference, it looks as if he has just copied chunks from it, and not marked them as quotes. He hasn't added any discussion points or observations either.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4580374.0

This type of thread is becoming a bit annoying. It's getting to the point that you have to do some research before awarding meits. I wonder if it is worth having a 24 hour cooling off period for merit awards. This would allow merit sources to award merits a lot faster, and they could reverse a bad decision based on subsequent comments in the thread.

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July 06, 2018, 03:59:38 PM
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Looks like he added a reference at the end of it.

I think sometimes these quote-threads can be interesting, since not everyone (including myself) reads crypto news--but it's obviously important that it's not plagiarism, and that's where a lot of people get caught.  Hydrogen often makes posts like this, and they're usually pretty good, and I've given him merits once or twice for doing so.  He also usually comments after the material he quotes, unlike this other guy whose thread you linked to. 

These things are probably not the best use of merits, but that's your call.  The poster making threads like this aren't contributing anything original unless they're making a commentary on it, and I suspect that if shitposters learn they're starting to earn merits then certain sections will start to get filled with news quotes.

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July 06, 2018, 04:08:04 PM
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When I looked at the article in the reference, it looks as if he has just copied chunks from it, and not marked them as quotes. He hasn't added any discussion points or observations either.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4580374.0

This type of thread is becoming a bit annoying. It's getting to the point that you have to do some research before awarding meits. I wonder if it is worth having a 24 hour cooling off period for merit awards. This would allow merit sources to award merits a lot faster, and they could reverse a bad decision based on subsequent comments in the thread.

I don't feel legit to merit copy/pasted articles. If the user had introduced the article, plus a discussion, it would be a "nice one", but it is kind of lazy to just use ctrl+c/ctrl+v and expect some reward for that.

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July 06, 2018, 04:10:03 PM
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It's his/her website. Checking the post history of the user you can see that he/she is just interested to post a link to his/her site.
Such members are not interested to interact with the community not interested to get merit but just posting links to get traffic. I hate such posts because the OP is not telling anything or asking something. Hydrogen does similar but he gives his opinion and encourages discussion

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July 06, 2018, 04:10:20 PM
Last edit: July 06, 2018, 04:22:44 PM by mdayonliner
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I am 100% sure I did not miss anything from the topic. Please match every single letter/word with to topic contents and the images taken from the source.

Archived for reference.

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Sad thing is - the user is technically safe. He knows including the link basically saved him from plagiarism offence.

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July 06, 2018, 08:07:54 PM
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This is bit off topic, But I also have a same kind of problem as I am hoping to upload some of my articles (three of already submitted articles (in this forum)and some to be published articles) to my blog after few upgrades. Will it be considered as a violation of rules or will it be mistaken for plagiarism?
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July 06, 2018, 08:18:52 PM
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Looks as if that thread got deleted (I can't access it)?
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July 06, 2018, 09:19:01 PM
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Looks as if that thread got deleted (I can't access it)?
You have it here (archived). Feel free to compare with my findings LOL

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July 06, 2018, 09:29:35 PM
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Looks as if that thread got deleted (I can't access it)?
You have it here (archived). Feel free to compare with my findings LOL

Aha yeah I was wondering what the highlights were before but didn't have enough brightness on my computer screen to determine what they were Grin.

Pump and dump scams aren't all bad, sometimes you can buy them low and sell high. I started here and bought doge for 10sats/doge and sold for around 50 (it rose to 100 but I'm a bad trader also only bought 0.001BTC worth) - the best way to recover from a pump-dump is to wait for the price to rise back to where it was, more often than not, they pump-dump them in waves (sell as it falls if you want to take that gamble and buy back just before the quick rise).
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July 07, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
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This is bit off topic, But I also have a same kind of problem as I am hoping to upload some of my articles (three of already submitted articles (in this forum)and some to be published articles) to my blog after few upgrades. Will it be considered as a violation of rules or will it be mistaken for plagiarism?

I am a writer as well and I had this problem also...

I will suggest that you do not publish the same article in more than one platform.

All content must be exclusive.

If you post in bitcointalk, then post on medium, you will have problems and medium may even block your account for plagiarism.

The opposite is also true: someone will report you to moderators here, and your bitcointalk account will be banned.
A friend of mine, good poster, had his account in bitcointalk banned for plagiarizing his own articles. He is waiting for about 2 months already to someone unban him...


Nobody cares if you are the author or not. All your content must be exclusive.
It makes sense to me. Nobody wants just to see copied/pasted information from another website.

Also, you will learn in time that written articles on blogs/medium/news should be different from posts here. You will get more merits and attention with more natural posts.

When I looked at the article in the reference, it looks as if he has just copied chunks from it, and not marked them as quotes. He hasn't added any discussion points or observations either.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4580374.0

This type of thread is becoming a bit annoying. It's getting to the point that you have to do some research before awarding meits. I wonder if it is worth having a 24 hour cooling off period for merit awards. This would allow merit sources to award merits a lot faster, and they could reverse a bad decision based on subsequent comments in the thread.

I didn't saw the topic, as it is already deleted.

However, I think that if he shared a good article, that you liked to read and you wouldn't be able to read it without his post, I think he deserves a merit then.

Only for sharing a good article in the right time, in the right board.

I think that most of the time we are all sharing some knowledge we learned somewhere else. Why can't we just share a raw article?
If he put the source of course....

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July 07, 2018, 12:57:25 AM
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This is bit off topic, But I also have a same kind of problem as I am hoping to upload some of my articles (three of already submitted articles (in this forum)and some to be published articles) to my blog after few upgrades. Will it be considered as a violation of rules or will it be mistaken for plagiarism?

I am a writer as well and I had this problem also...

I will suggest that you do not publish the same article in more than one platform.

All content must be exclusive.

If you post in bitcointalk, then post on medium, you will have problems and medium may even block your account for plagiarism.

The opposite is also true: someone will report you to moderators here, and your bitcointalk account will be banned.
A friend of mine, good poster, had his account in bitcointalk banned for plagiarizing his own articles. He is waiting for about 2 months already to someone unban him...


Nobody cares if you are the author or not. All your content must be exclusive.
It makes sense to me. Nobody wants just to see copied/pasted information from another website.

Also, you will learn in time that written articles on blogs/medium/news should be different from posts here. You will get more merits and attention with more natural posts.
I'd suggest listing a public key/address on the blog pages you want to cite and sign it here if you want to prove you're the owner. However, it is till a bit odd and I wouldn't recommend it, why not just advertise your blog in your signature or personal message?

When I looked at the article in the reference, it looks as if he has just copied chunks from it, and not marked them as quotes. He hasn't added any discussion points or observations either.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4580374.0

This type of thread is becoming a bit annoying. It's getting to the point that you have to do some research before awarding meits. I wonder if it is worth having a 24 hour cooling off period for merit awards. This would allow merit sources to award merits a lot faster, and they could reverse a bad decision based on subsequent comments in the thread.

I didn't saw the topic, as it is already deleted.

However, I think that if he shared a good article, that you liked to read and you wouldn't be able to read it without his post, I think he deserves a merit then.

Only for sharing a good article in the right time, in the right board.

I think that most of the time we are all sharing some knowledge we learned somewhere else. Why can't we just share a raw article?
If he put the source of course....

You need to have the author's permission if you want to copy their information (in most cases).
If you don't have either their permission, then under regular copyright restrictions (that should be adhered to) you can copy a few sentences (up to about a paragraph or two) and make a comment on them but you need to make a comment on them in some way you can't just post them raw.
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