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July 10, 2018, 05:24:53 PM
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A month ago, I discovered Drownhim.com:
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Since Rollin.io (where I was a Mod for more than 2 years) closed, I haven't really used any other gambling sites. Drownhim is more of a multiplayer game than a gambling site, and that's what I like about it.
This thread is specifically made for testing Bot settings. Feel free to post your own settings, and/or try to beat mine. For testing, I use the room called "Bot training":

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Unibot
Drownhim offers manual playing, and several Bots. The most interesting one, and the reason I created this topic, is Unibot:

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I'll summarize the Unibot settings, the above example would be written as: (1,3+ 75%; 1 30%; 0 20%; 10 7 3 9).

Bot testing
For testing bot strategies, Admin helped me to create 9 different accounts. "Normally", using more than one account is not allowed, just like in online poker. For testing Bot strategies, Admin made an exception for me.
These are the accounts:

Code:
DeepBlue
T-1000
R2-D2
Wall-E
Android
HAL9000
System_370
Apple_II
PC_AT
For testing, I'll start with some settings, then run 6-9 Unibots for about 50-100 rounds, and see which one wins most:
Green: best result(s)
Red: worst result(s)
I'll change the settings from the worst performing bot, and try again.


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Test bot settings #1 (6 bots):

T-1000 is brutal: drown everyone it can, 100% of the time (0+ 100%; 0+ 100%; 0+ 100%; 10 7 3 9).
Android is lazy: running default settings (1,3+ 75%; 1 30%; 0 20%; 10 7 3 9).
R2-D2 only retaliates after 2 drowns in 3 moves (0+ 50%; 0+ 50%; 0% 5%; 10 7 4 11).
DeepBlue is supposed to be the smartest, but that failed (1+ 100%; 0+ 50%; 1+ 40%; 10 7 3 6).
Wall-E is sweet (0+ 40%; 0+ 30%; 0+ 80%; 10 7 3 30).
HAL9000 only drowns 50% of the users, but strikes back hard: drown him once, and he'll drown you 3 times (0+ 50%; 0% 50%; 0% 50%; 10 7 3 1).

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We’ve conducted another test of bot’s strategy with the goal to determine which value of “Revenge factor” leads to winning. For that, 6 bots were run in the “Training bot” room for 145 rounds.

All of them were programmed to drown another on Upper Level on 1+ moves with probability 30%, and on My Level on the first Move only with probability 20%.

The penalty points were:
 for drowning me at Move-1: 10
 for drowning me at Move-2:  7
 for drowning me at Move-3:  2



The bound, at which the bot “revenge” specific player for drowning himself were different for all 6 bots. The results of this run are as following:

UserIDRevenge boundGain/loss
Mosquito1 (revenge if he drowns me at any of 3 previous moves (most rancorous strategy)-1.38
Beatle6 (revenge if he drowns me at any of 2 previous moves)1.99
Dragonfly8 (revenge for drowning me either on last move or (move-2 and move-3))0.71
Fly11 (revenge for drowning on last move and on (move-2 or move-3))4.88
Ant16 (revenge for drowning on last move and move-2)-2.37
Grasshopper18 (revenge for drowning on all 3 previous moves (most forgiving strategy)-5.64
   

The above bots keep running on the “testing bots” room. Anyone welcome to beat them - e.g. by improving the most  effective strategy (Fly).

The logs for the above 145 rounds are available by clicking "full log" and choosing "Bots training" and staring time 9:42 UTC July 11, 2018.
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Wow, I really enjoyed how they made it simple but so fun I already have a strategy and the good thing about this game was everyone has a chance to win some. Having a name that's easy to see would be the worst thing to do though if having a name with less characters and less appearance will make your chances higher. I really liked it, it was fun simple and entertaining.


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July 17, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
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Yesterday the new bots features has been released: now everyone can save a number of his strategies and share it with others if he like.

"Insects" bots has public strategies  which anyone can see in the strategies list. They differs from each other only by first param - probability to drown players at upper level:




The results after 213 rounds in "Bots testing" room are:

UserIDStrategy name
(meaning of the numbers see above)
Gain/loss
Grasshopper50-70-11-5.00
Mosquito60-70-11-0.37
Beatle70-70-11-5.05
Dragonfly80-70-113.18
Fly90-70-11-0.44
Ant100-70-113.07

As one can see, Fly result of -0.44 is quite unexpected between +3.18 and +3.07. It means that it's not so simple as it may looks like..
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August 24, 2018, 06:59:37 AM
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Loyce am i gonna merited for sharing my bots info?
Asking for Merit makes it highly unlikely you'll receive any.


Since the new features were released, this thread is more or less useless Tongue It's much easier to share bots on the site, which also shows the success of each bot (as a percentage of the amount won or lost).
The success of each bot largely depends on your opponents. It's not possible to create one bot that always wins. For instance, if all opponents use an aggressive strategy, you can't win if you're not aggressive too. But when 3 aggressive bots play against 3 "peaceful" bots (which means they only Drown players after they were drowned), the peaceful bots win!
That makes it necessary to use different bots for different scenarios, and adjust your bot settings when your opponents change theirs.
At the moment, the best strategy is to win the contest: create a bot that has the best win percentage in 1500 rounds.

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hello guys.
my username in game is Persian.
finally i am going to share my bots config + pics.
lets start with my account overview.



List of my bots - insects




List of my bots - 25 Moves



when i started this game the most    using bot was peaceful ant - as the name of the bot says it was peaceful type.



and i made simple #336 against them. rate 132% in 610 rounds



the 25 Moves simple config was the same as insects and that was successful too. rate 73% in 103 rounds

in past 2 days the peaceful bot shown named rancorous super coop#470 .it was the best peaceful at the time and with numbers they seems unbeatable.



and today i found solution to beat them all . doesnt matter how many roncorous is in the game.
i build keep it up#561A  rate 188% in 97 rounds.
its propably the smartest bot in the game until now.
in the insects room every 3 move the last line of the game falls. and as peaceful bots doesnt do anything offensive(they just revenge) this bot drown them all on the third move.


I hope this will help you.

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At the moment, the best strategy is to win the contest: create a bot that has the best win percentage in 1500 rounds.
It worked, I won the contest. See here to read how I did it.

As I said before, the success of any bot depends on the other bots in the room. At the moment, I'm having good results with these bots:
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The one on top has these settings:
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What it does, is simply wait for the round in which all other bots are too peaceful and don't drown anyone. Then, at the last Move, it drowns all opponents and instantly kicks them out of the game.
These are the results per game:
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Why am I sharing this? I like the game! And as much as I like winning, it's more fun with real players. All rodents and insects (example: Bee, Wasp, ...) are Admin bots to keep the game alive. That's why they sometimes use the same strategy.
Long term, the game can only be sustainable with real users. If 3 or more real users join, the Admin bots won't join that round.

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What it does, is simply wait for the round in which all other bots are too peaceful and don't drown anyone. Then, at the last Move, it drowns all opponents and instantly kicks them out of the game.

By this Loyce has proved that 1 aggressive bot beats 6 pacifists (there were 7 places in the round that time).

But I'd like to prove that a group of pacifists will always beat an aggressor (here is non-triviality of this game).

Now there are 9 places in the Trial room and all our bots (insects) are pacifists (drown with only 1% probability, but revenge for drowning themself  of course). If someone come with aggressive bot (like Loyce's one) it will climb with 8 pacifists - it's a question if it can beat 8 with the same ease as 6.
Also pacifists will now be added with a number of moderate aggressive bots - with 10% probabilities (mosquito, beatle, grasshopper, ant, fly, dragonfly).
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Now there are 9 places in the Trial room and all our bots (insects) are pacifists (drown with only 1% probability, but revenge for drowning themself  of course). If someone come with aggressive bot (like Loyce's one) it will climb with 8 pacifists - it's a question if it can beat 8 with the same ease as 6.
I can still beat 8 of them Cheesy
I'm now up against 8 of these:
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I'm using the same settings as before.

With one player like me
The probability of them drowning anyone is 1%. I win if nobody drowns anyone. If just one bot drows another bot,  I'm very likely to lose.
I hope my math is correct:
Round 1: the probability of nobody drowning anyone is (0.99^8)^8 (=0.525596) (because there are 8 bots drowning 8 others with 1% probability)
Round 2: the probability of nobody drowning anyone is (0.99^8)^8
Round 3: the probability of nobody other than me drowning anyone is (0.99^8)^8

The probability of nobody other than me drowning anyone for 3 rounds is ((0.99^8)^8)^3 (=0.145). That means there's a 14.5% chance I win the round if I drown them all on round 3. With a 1 bit buy-in and 8.91 bit pot, that gives me an average return of 1.29x my wagered amount.
There's a small bonus: sometimes I win a shared prize (say 1.11 bit), which slightly increases the returns.

With 2 players like me
If anyone were to join using the same strategy, the math changes:
Round 1: the probability of nobody drowning anyone is (0.99^7)^7 (=0.611117)

The probability of nobody other than us  drowning anyone for 3 rounds is ((0.99^7)^7)^3 (=0.228). That means there's a 22.8% chance we both win if we drown them all on round 3 and have to share the pot. That gives an average return of 1.01677x the wagered amount.

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Now there are 9 places in the Trial room and all our bots (insects) are pacifists (drown with only 1% probability, but revenge for drowning themself  of course). If someone come with aggressive bot (like Loyce's one) it will climb with 8 pacifists - it's a question if it can beat 8 with the same ease as 6.
I can still beat 8 of them Cheesy
I'm now up against 8 of these:
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I'm using the same settings as before.


It seems 1% aggressivity in the GROUP is not enough to defend from 1-2 aggressors. Now 6 insects (Cricket, Flea, Ladybug, Moth, Spider and Termite) has increased the aggressivity from 1 to 5 persent, will see how Loyce will beat them..
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(#1108 AAA) is on fire  Grin  about 10 mbtc profit.
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Interesting. Trying it now, looks like fun game Cheesy
I entered the wrong room, i'm in trial (bot fight) but it goes well Wink

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Interesting. Trying it now, looks like fun game Cheesy
If only more people joined Cheesy
It could be so much fun creating bots to fight 10 people all the time, adjusting my bot when other bots change too, making it a continuous battle for improvement.

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