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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up. It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ? How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion . Thank you There are several disputable points in your posts. Big traders has influenced markets since the beginning of "trading" (dating back to 16th century in Europe). If a big trader puts an enormous order in the market and moves price significantly then it is apparently not manipulation. However, queue jumping, insider trading and other practices are considered "manipulation", and I agree there most probably is such a manipulation in the Bitcoin market.
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July 19, 2018, 08:09:39 PM |
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I do think it's being manipulated by sharks. In an hypothetical situation, you had a million dollars, wouldn't you manipulate the market? But then, isn't it the same with the stock exchange?
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July 19, 2018, 08:36:46 PM |
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I'm quite confused with your statement. Whales (Not sharks, if that's what you mean) and scandals are different things.
Whales can affect bitcoin price if they decided to sell bitcoin as they have a huge amount of it affecting supply and demand correlation.
Scandals or negative news about bitcoin could affect bitcoin as it could prevent possible investors. Such as banning of bitcoin in a country.
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July 19, 2018, 08:44:12 PM |
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It is simply never believed anyone ever in the Bitcoin market, whenever you heard some rumors always check them yourself if you are curious about them never trust others to supply you correct information and you take a decision about them and make profit and losses. We are watching this type of free messages but connected and a lot of stuff from 2013.
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July 19, 2018, 09:00:49 PM |
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It happens to almost all the markets, not only with bitcoin, so you need to be acostumbrated to see a manipulation to all the aspects of every market, stocks, bonds, commodities, and also gold and silver, so in btc is more than normal too.
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strideynet
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July 20, 2018, 04:01:24 PM |
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manipulation is always there, but not to throw everyone out of the market, and in order to be able to buy future technology cheaper
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July 20, 2018, 04:03:10 PM |
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sometimes I am thinking the same thing because they the biggest influence in the market and they can manipulate it if the do.
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July 20, 2018, 08:22:48 PM |
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All markets are manipulated, but while traditional markets only respond to very large entities, such as states and central banks, the crypto market is much more sensitive, and indeed its volatility demonstrates this.
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Reid
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July 20, 2018, 08:44:13 PM |
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We have no proof of that. We dont know who is manipulating it. We cannot even see where it could have been sold. Too many exchanges now to list every dump or pump that will happen.
One thing I am sure. Bitcoin will rise again. For many users that are supporting it, bitcoin will take another bull run and somehow those who bought at 5 digits will get their ROI or better stay and support bitcoin more for they have experience how far it could go.
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acheampong64
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July 20, 2018, 08:57:55 PM |
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yeah that's true. Last year, Bitcoins price was soaring even after China declared tits ban. It seems the bad don't give a shake always It can happen again so let's hold on tight.
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July 20, 2018, 09:26:13 PM |
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up. It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ? How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion . Thank you Of course sharks did not own all bitcoins but most of it was at their disposal. Those big sharks that you say has a big portion of bitcoins owned that's why the price is on hold and does not go down to hundreds per Bitcoin. It does not mean they are manipulating the price, it just happen that they are holding a large fraction of bitcoins.
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July 20, 2018, 09:57:15 PM |
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up. It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ? How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion . Thank you In my own opinion, sharks can really affect the market price but that's normal because everyone wants to earn profit or invest a huge amount just like what everybodies goal in the industry.
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July 20, 2018, 10:32:34 PM |
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almost every financial market has the involvement and impact of sharks. Only when the capital of the market increased much compared to the current to escape the impact of sharks.
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July 21, 2018, 02:00:14 AM |
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up. It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ? How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion . Thank you Only one can make the price goes up is demand or purchase of bitcoin on a large scale, and sales at a price we like. The supply is a big factor why the price of BTC still up. Exchange hack is a big factor too, to push the price up. why? Because of the BTC from the hacking activities still not entering on the market, not entering the BTC into the market, or stuck BTC (from hacking activity) will reduce supply throughout the market and if at that time a lot of demand for BTC then BTC price will automatically go up,
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July 21, 2018, 02:28:55 AM |
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up. It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ? How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion . Thank you In my own opinion, sharks can really affect the market price but that's normal because everyone wants to earn profit or invest a huge amount just like what everybodies goal in the industry. That is obvious, though as far as I know they are called whales, they have a lot of investments or funds to create a ripple-like effect on the market. I guess that is the reason why they are called "whales". But even though they have a lot of investments, normal users like us can still affect the price movement of the cryptos since it's price relies fully on the movement of users in the market.
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July 22, 2018, 04:48:21 PM |
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Obviously the markets are manipulated, otherwise there would be no explanation for these sudden "overhangs" that have no relation to the laws of supply and demand or with news that justify these movements.
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July 23, 2018, 08:29:03 PM |
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I'm sure that at this stage of the development of the market sharks are manipulated by a crowd to sell or buy coins that they need
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July 23, 2018, 08:43:00 PM |
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Sharks/Whales or whatever you call them even if they don't intend to manipulate the market the money and BTC position they have is doing it for them. When someone dumps big you know that it will have a negative ripple effect in the market, the same thing can be said when a whale started buying back again this will trigger the prices to rise again. You are right that Bitcoin is going up again but if you ask me if it will continue to go straight up my answer is no as BTC is still well inside on a down trend and this might just be a short rally before it goes back down again.
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Swenna
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July 23, 2018, 09:02:04 PM |
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Well, aside from dumpers/holders,crypto-related news also affects the price of the market. Positive news can actually pump coins while negative news pulls the price down into downhill. Not because the coin is continuously riding a up and down hill does not necesarilly mena that it is already being manipulated (But I am sure someone is also pulling the strings in the shadow). There are other factors, let us not forget that.
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July 23, 2018, 09:22:21 PM |
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up. It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ? How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion . Thank you For now, I think It should be the start of bulll market because If we just notice bitcoin now preformong well, but just like before It will not last longer maybe It will take only 1-2 months and after there will be another correction of the price.
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