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August 13, 2018, 03:44:32 AM
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HSBC was involved in $100,000,000,000 money laundering in 2015. Price manipulation at the highest level in possible.

Huge amounts of money can be sent for illegal activities.
So in your opinion how it affect Bitcoin and Cryptocurrecy market ?, It make Cryptocurrency price rise or make they are prevented by government ?.
I want to know all of your opinion to gain experience and lesson in this market
Thank you Smiley

I think we already have gotten answer to this one, government dont like people using bitcoin for the illegal activities and they stated to ban it even there was no proof collected about it. However government stayed firm on their decision that bitcoin is being used that way and they banned it in many parts. Then after they gotten the proof that bitcoin was actually being used for the money laundering purpose and thus got involved into the illegal stuff. Not much far, they sooner exposed that its being blacked out in the dark web and being used for worst activities.

So the output of this discussion is, its not just the sharks and whales who are manipulating the market but dark site money driving force is also taking long part in this manipulation because they drive crazy money into them and sell off quickly.

   

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August 13, 2018, 03:54:38 AM
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion Smiley.
Thank you Smiley
 
manipulation is a common things in cryptocurrency and the media is really affecting the market. As traders what we can do is try to use this manipulation to gain more profit from it and from media we could try to predict when to buy and when to force sell the coins that we hold.

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August 13, 2018, 04:08:36 AM
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August 14, 2018, 09:41:14 AM
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It is not the sharks it is the whales who manipulates the market for their own targets for the price, they are all creating a scenario like this where they are all dumping their bitcoin to just create a panic selling scenario and when the people sold their bitcoins too then they will start getting those cheap bitcoins and fake pump bitcoin to create hype and make their profits.
This market of course will have the action, impact on the market. The first is the strong buying that causes it to rise every day. Then sell out large amounts to confuse the community. And the confused community, fearing the devaluation, sold off a relatively large amount of bitcoin. At the end of the bitcoin price down the floor they restarted the plan as originally. More money every day.

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August 14, 2018, 09:45:54 AM
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There is a high probability that whales manipulate current prices to enter the market at the lowest possible price. Now we can see next falling prices which are very big. In my opinion we should see huge growth soon

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August 14, 2018, 02:40:36 PM
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This might be true give the fact that we have some really bullish news lately and the market still keeps going down. Something big is comming.
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August 14, 2018, 04:57:47 PM
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Cryptocurrency moves as a sector on some days -> coins move in the same direction.

Coins generally move in inverse proportion to their market cap and liquidity -> Bitcoin moves the least when the entire market is moving.

That's pretty much all the explanation you need. No manipulation or conspiracies needed.

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August 14, 2018, 05:10:36 PM
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HSBC was involved in $100,000,000,000 money laundering in 2015. Price manipulation at the highest level in possible.

Huge amounts of money can be sent for illegal activities.
So in your opinion how it affect Bitcoin and Cryptocurrecy market ?, It make Cryptocurrency price rise or make they are prevented by government ?.
I want to know all of your opinion to gain experience and lesson in this market
Thank you Smiley

I think we already have gotten answer to this one, government dont like people using bitcoin for the illegal activities and they stated to ban it even there was no proof collected about it. However government stayed firm on their decision that bitcoin is being used that way and they banned it in many parts. Then after they gotten the proof that bitcoin was actually being used for the money laundering purpose and thus got involved into the illegal stuff. Not much far, they sooner exposed that its being blacked out in the dark web and being used for worst activities.

So the output of this discussion is, its not just the sharks and whales who are manipulating the market but dark site money driving force is also taking long part in this manipulation because they drive crazy money into them and sell off quickly.

Yeah and those bastards don't need crypto to do their own dirty work, they can just fly planes full of cash over when they need to send black market money somewhere. Then they just print more of the shit and make taxpayer foot the bill. If it's that easy, why would they need to do it with crypto?

Crypto represents more of a threat to their established authority than an opportunity. That's why the market cap is still so small. If it was really a tool they wanted to use for themselves, they would be pumping more money into it. But instead it is a danger, not just because of money laundering but because of subverting the banks.
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August 14, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
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I don't think that sharks can get many btc but who knows maybe in the future the situation will change for the better. To my mind, it is good to be a trader and to have btc for the long-term hold

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August 14, 2018, 05:37:57 PM
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I don't think that sharks can get many btc but who knows maybe in the future the situation will change for the better. To my mind, it is good to be a trader and to have btc for the long-term hold

I do believe that sharks has a big role on cryptocurrency pumping in the near future because if there are so many people who are going to invest on the market then the demand will increase as well as the price.

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August 14, 2018, 05:45:42 PM
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There is a high probability that whales manipulate current prices to enter the market at the lowest possible price. Now we can see next falling prices which are very big. In my opinion we should see huge growth soon
large speculators always play a role in every bitcoin or other market price movement. they have a source of funds that can be used to manipulate the market.

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August 14, 2018, 05:58:25 PM
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Of course it is only big player who can make some movement in the market.  Small investor can not affect any thing. Big players will always push and pull the market moods as per his own interest.  Both ways he earns. 

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August 15, 2018, 06:33:04 AM
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion Smiley.
Thank you Smiley
 
You mean whales and not sharks. And of course they do manipulate the market a lot of times in their favor. They have done it a lot of times in the past and some people believe that they are the reason why Bitcoin bubbled last year. If they are, then they really planned it big lol, cause other years were not like that of last year, the price of BTC pumped in a big way and nearly getting to twenty thousand, and it started from just two thousand dollars.

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August 15, 2018, 06:46:58 AM
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion Smiley.
Thank you Smiley
 

The ups and downs of bitcoin is a natural thing, a phenomenon that resulted from constant volatility due to demands and supplies, some are because of the sharks that you have mentioned, bad publicity and irregularities from various countries, we should get use to it, big traders are based on small traders who panic sell and sell out of curiosity without even studying the graphs. let us not blame the big traders. the wave they created can substantially requires more funds that small traders. if they loose, they loose a lot too. one wrong move and thats it. 

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September 07, 2018, 06:35:10 AM
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I have forgotten this topic Sad Sad Sad
Bitcoin price have a big dumped from $7k4xx to $6k5xx. How do you think about this dumped @@. There are a big amount of money out of market or the whales manipulate it ?
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September 07, 2018, 06:44:31 AM
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I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion Smiley.
Thank you Smiley
 
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September 07, 2018, 07:02:54 AM
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well what you're saying is true. Sometimes we get very bad news but even after that the prices of the coins never stay low. For instance, China banned crypto trading somewhere in September last year but after that the prices went up and up amidst other bad news.
In that same way, there are times that bad news really brings down the prices down. A notable example is during the beginning of this year where the downfall begin amidst major bad news.
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September 07, 2018, 07:08:33 AM
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There is a manipulation I think of whales not sharks. It is always possible in crypto trading. Just be careful not to sell or buy during manipulation or else youll be eaten alive.

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September 07, 2018, 07:08:50 AM
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A truly open and decentralized market like crypto certainly cannot be separated from certain communities who are playing with prices and this can also be done by a large country with a specific purpose. When many Chinese investors and other large countries, surely the country must be careful not to backfire on their own economy
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September 07, 2018, 07:39:48 AM
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So can I buy Bitcoin or any top Altcoin now ?.
Do you think this is a low price of the manipulation and should we buy it ?.
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