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January 11, 2019, 01:47:10 PM
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Around here there must have been ten thousand Bird electric scooters dropped all over, just grab one and go. That's capitalism at work, letting the users decide if and where they like it. You? You'd just tell them how to live. Here are your very words. (And in the name of Saving the Planet...)

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January 11, 2019, 04:29:46 PM
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Around here there must have been ten thousand Bird electric scooters dropped all over, just grab one and go. That's capitalism at work, letting the users decide if and where they like it. You? You'd just tell them how to live. Here are your very words. (And in the name of Saving the Planet...)

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January 31, 2019, 06:58:51 AM
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The effect and proof of climate change is obvious for all to see, wondering why people ar still skeptical about climate change.
According to wikipedia it is the  Climate change is a change in the statistical distribution of weather patterns when that change lasts for an extended period of time. This is real and obvious in our society.
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January 31, 2019, 07:30:15 AM
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The effect and proof of climate change is obvious for all to see, wondering why people ar still skeptical about climate change.
According to wikipedia it is the  Climate change is a change in the statistical distribution of weather patterns when that change lasts for an extended period of time. This is real and obvious in our society.

It is really easy to just claim it is obvious. Interesting though, any time people ask for sources there never seems to be any actual empirical data behind it... just models, simulations, and theories.
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January 31, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
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The effect and proof of climate change is obvious for all to see, wondering why people ar still skeptical about climate change.
According to wikipedia it is the  Climate change is a change in the statistical distribution of weather patterns when that change lasts for an extended period of time. This is real and obvious in our society.

By it's very definition, "Climate" is three successive ten year histories.

So suppose you have these decades. 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000.

Using statistics, you define climate for 1950-1979. You can then discuss "climate change" relating to the period 1960-1989. That's assuming you don't have cooked or slanted data.

By it's very nature, the effect and proof or lack of effect, and lack of proof, is HISTORICAL.

It's not "obvious for all to see." Quite the reverse.

What you are referring to is things like the hot day in August, when the media blitz talks about the "unprecedented heat wave." You are talking about propaganda, pure and simple.



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January 31, 2019, 02:15:46 PM
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Climate change doesn't mean a changing climate. It means global warming, the way it is used. Climate change has always been around us all the time. Some localized areas simply see less climate change than others.


Amidst Global Warming Hysteria, NASA Scientists Expect Global Cooling



“We see a cooling trend,” said Martin Mlynczak of NASA’s Langley Research Center. “High above Earth’s surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy. If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold.”

    The new data is coming from NASA’s Sounding of the Atmosphere using Broadband Emission Radiometry or SABER instrument, which is onboard the space agency’s Thermosphere Ionosphere Mesosphere Energetics and Dynamics (TIMED) satellite. SABER monitors infrared radiation from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a vital role in the energy output of our thermosphere, the very top level of our atmosphere.

    “The thermosphere always cools off during Solar Minimum. It’s one of the most important ways the solar cycle affects our planet,” said Mlynczak, who is the associate principal investigator for SABER.

    The new NASA findings are in line with studies released by UC-San Diego and Northumbria University in Great Britain last year, both of which predict a Grand Solar Minimum in coming decades due to low sunspot activity. Both studies predicted sun activity similar to the Maunder Minimum of the mid-17th to early 18th centuries, which coincided to a time known as the Little Ice Age, during which temperatures were much lower than those of today.

    If all of this seems as if NASA is contradicting itself, you’re right — sort of. After all, NASA also reported last week that Arctic sea ice was at its sixth lowest level since measuring began. Isn’t that a sure sign of global warming?

    All any of this “proves” is that we have, at best, a cursory understanding of Earth’s incredibly complex climate system. So when mainstream media and carbon-credit salesman Al Gore breathlessly warn you that we must do something about climate change, it’s all right to step back, take a deep breath, and realize that we don’t have the knowledge, skill or resources to have much effect on the Earth’s climate.


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