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Author Topic: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen  (Read 2790 times)
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February 15, 2014, 02:44:58 PM
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for posterity and service to the members, I am copying and pasteing the back and forth with AvalonShenzhen about my attempt at getting refund from him:

Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on Today at 07:21:59 AM
Quote from: jamesc760 on Today at 07:20:06 AM
AvalonShenzhen,

I want my refund now. I know you are online quite often because you've been deleting my post about order cancellation and refund request as soon as I post them.

I will keep posting until you fully refund me.

James



Hello Jamesc760,

We are not online 24/24 so sorry.
Don't spam the forum or indeed we will clean it up.

Why do you want a refund. Don't buy one unit and after 1 hours ask a refund...

I'd like a refund to pay for extra medication my mother needs. She's been in nursing home and took a bad fall.

Please honor my request for refund now.

Thank you,

James



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February 15, 2014, 02:58:12 PM
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I will modify, remove, or delete this thread IF I successfully receive full refund amount of 1.1 btc.

I placed an order for 1 Avalon Gen2 215Ghs unit, groubuy batch #4, from AvalonShenzhen yesterday (Friday, February 14th,2014) morning.

By the end of day, I got a bad news from my mother, she literally fell and broke her wrist.

I will be taking care of her and now need extra money, so I asked for refund via pm from AvalonShenzhen right away.

Having heard nothing from him, I email him that evening.

No response at all. So, I post him a message on his groupbuy thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424621.new#new

The thread is moderated, meaning AvalonShenzhen can delete any posts he doesn't like.

He deletes my message requesting order cancellation and refund.

How odd.

So, I send him another pm and email. Nothing. I post a new message on the thread, and that's the response I got in the post #1.
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February 15, 2014, 03:03:45 PM
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I just noticed that he's been busy deleting ALL my posts on the thread:

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I want my refund now. I know you are online quite often because you've been deleting my post about order cancellation and refund request as soon as I post them.

I will keep posting until you fully refund me.

James
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Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on Today at 07:21:59 AM
Quote from: jamesc760 on Today at 07:20:06 AM
AvalonShenzhen,

I want my refund now. I know you are online quite often because you've been deleting my post about order cancellation and refund request as soon as I post them.

I will keep posting until you fully refund me.

James

Hello Jamesc760,

We are not online 24/24 so sorry.
Don't spam the forum or indeed we will clean it up.

Why do you want a refund. Don't buy one unit and after 1 hours ask a refund...

I'd like a refund to pay for extra medication my mother needs. She's been in nursing home and took a bad fall.

Please honor my request for refund now.

Thank you,

James
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Payment sent for 1 unit:

tx id 0f04772fbe9aa35e082aa226c533ffd2898b46640f5fb8543e0fbc3d49480cd0

Thanks!

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February 15, 2014, 03:04:56 PM
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James I don't even see the GB listed anymore? I think he has deleted all the posts? Good luck


Edit: thread is still there but it's on the second page now since he has deleted today's post I guess?
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Last edit: February 16, 2014, 12:29:49 AM by Kapz786
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No offense he doesn't really have to refund you this isn't Kmart you can't change your mind and expect an instant refund.

As long as he delivers the goods he has fulfilled his promise


Looks like he is a scammer
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February 15, 2014, 03:12:18 PM
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He's trying to erase me from his history!

Sorry dude, I have them all saved and posted.

I know I've been had and will never see my 1.1 btc.

It's not a huge amount, sure it would be a lot easier if I had it.

If I can stop others from giving him any more bitcoins, I will try to bump this thread.

AvalonShenzhen is a SCAMMER!
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February 15, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
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James he is deleting all post as we speak!


Edit: I reported to a mod asking to put a halt to the deleting of the thread as it's a scammer
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February 15, 2014, 03:20:09 PM
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I understand this is not kmart. What's so difficult about instantly refunding customers? I have provided tx id, amount, my wallet address, all confirmed. You mean, nothing happens in your life and it's smooth sailing all the way? Sorry but I have a life, family and obligations. I'd like to get new machine and thought I had enough in extra. Well, accidents happen. How do you account for that?

Like I stated previously, I can afford to lose 1.1 btc at this point in my life. Maybe I should just shut my mouth and disappear?

AvalonShenzhen acts like a scammer to me. Until he can prove he's not, I will be posting here.
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February 15, 2014, 03:20:42 PM
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He's trying to erase me from his history!

Sorry dude, I have them all saved and posted.

I know I've been had and will never see my 1.1 btc.

It's not a huge amount, sure it would be a lot easier if I had it.

If I can stop others from giving him any more bitcoins, I will try to bump this thread.

AvalonShenzhen is a SCAMMER!


dude take the shipment you paid for and sell it.
 go back onto his thread and tell him you were wrong.
 tell him you don't need a refund you will take delivery of the gear.
call yourself a stupid westerner that did not understand his culture and ask forgiveness.

In a world that you paid in btc your rights are so hard to in-force  your best bet it to politely ask for forgiveness. And a tracking number (lol)

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February 15, 2014, 03:21:36 PM
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I understand this is not kmart. What's so difficult about instantly refunding customers? I have provided tx id, amount, my wallet address, all confirmed. You mean, nothing happens in your life and it's smooth sailing all the way? Sorry but I have a life, family and obligations. I'd like to get new machine and thought I had enough in extra. Well, accidents happen. How do you account for that?

Like I stated previously, I can afford to lose 1.1 btc at this point in my life. Maybe I should just shut my mouth and disappear?

AvalonShenzhen acts like a scammer to me. Until he can prove he's not, I will be posting here.

your methods will lose your coin. but it is your coin

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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February 15, 2014, 03:22:22 PM
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can't go on his thread because it seems he deleted it.

Oh dear.



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February 15, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
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James he is deleting all post as we speak!


He's definitely trying to delete all his tracks, like all thieves try to do.
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I can still see the very first post he made:



    Author    Topic: [IN STOCK][NEW PRICE] BATCH4 - 25 Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SHIPPING FEB 17TH  (Read 7854 times)
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[IN STOCK][NEW PRICE] BATCH4 - 25 Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SHIPPING FEB 17TH
January 20, 2014, 11:29:56 AM
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5) You have to send the payment to the BTC address provided/paypal address to confirm your order

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BATCH 1
02/04/2014                       
NicolaeTT                  Miner                     2               Paypal(2)                   Delivered
AlfonsoD                   Miner                     5               Paypal(2)-BTC(3)       Delivered
joehash                     Miner                     1               Paypal(1)                   Delivered
Jicoli                           Miner                     1               Paypal(1)                   Delivered
Bitdreamer                Miner                     1               Paypal(1)                   Delivered

BATCH 2
02/05/2014
Jeronico                     Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Delivered
Andrew                      Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Delivered
Krzyszt                      2X Blade                6               BTC(6)                      Delivered
MariusC                     Miner                     10             BTC(10)                    Delivered
Reuan                        Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Delivered

02/06/2014
Mathew                      Miner                     1               BTC(1)                     Delivered
Sabine                       Miner                     1               BTC(1)                     Delivered
William                       Miner                     1               BTC(1)                     Delivered
AndreyK                     Miner                     2               BTC(2)                     Delivered


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BATCH3
r7970                           Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Kuttingcorners             Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
blackheart13               Miner                     5               BTC(5)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
capa                            Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
LainZ                            Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Gologuzan                    Blade                    4                BTC(4)                      Shipped to HK - waiting UPS number
Maxximus007               Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
TracerX                         Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Pcpoet                         Miner                     7               BTC(7)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
bcollan                         Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Airwhale                        Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
r4square                       Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Xer0                              Miner                     5               BTC(5)                      Shipped to HK - waiting UPS/DHL N°
machinationus              Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Anarchyx                       Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
jwiz1911                        Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
drpp                              Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Digginit                         Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
n4longhaul                    Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
HorusFTW                     Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
sniffinpoprocks             Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Serpiente12                  Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
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Niggle                            Miner                     4                BTC(4)                      Confirmed
blackheart13                 Miner                     5                BTC(5)                      Confirmed
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jtoomim                         Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
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Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6
January 20, 2014, 04:47:18 PM
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Escrow ? ? ?
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Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6
January 20, 2014, 07:23:36 PM
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I will be one of the first to order if you allow paypal.
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Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6
January 22, 2014, 05:11:42 PM
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So these are sold without PSU - how many PSUs, and what wattage and connector types are required?
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Re: [HOT][GROUP BUY WORLDWIDE] Avalon Miner 215GH/s BTC1.35 QUICK SHIPPING
February 08, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
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TXID: c56557cda72915c695190501940ddf35f878a362a505b418c454c252e0b366ce

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Re: [HOT][WORLDWIDE] BATCH3 - 35X Avalon Miner 215GH/s BTC1.35 SHIPPING FEB 14TH
February 09, 2014, 12:01:36 PM
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Quote from: serpiente12 on February 09, 2014, 11:46:20 AM
So i really want to order and get it shipped now in 12th February is this stil possible? i have required the bitcoins needed but im not so used to all this so i just need a confirmation....i am buying a mining rig of 200GH/S + ? And all i need for it to work is PSU and then its plug n play?

Hello Serpiente12,

Thank you for your interest.
First of all, it will be shipped friday 14Th feb and not 12th, just to be sure you know it.
It as a mining rig of at least 215GH/S but look on the post of earlier customers, most of the time it is around 220GH/S.

The full miner is a stand alone miner. So yes, you need to install 2PSU (check first post to have tech. specifications) in the miner and connect it to internet.

After that, you just have to enter the info about your pool to start mining.
If you have any difficulties, we can give you support via teamviewer but it is very simple.

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Re: [HOT][WORLDWIDE] BATCH3 - 35X Avalon Miner 215GH/s BTC1.35 SHIPPING FEB 14TH
February 09, 2014, 02:16:45 PM
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Payment has been sent for 1. 
Email sent providing the shipping address & email for tracking info.
It includes my bitcointalk id: blackheart13

Thanks - looking forward to receiving this unit & making additional purchases. 
Will keep this post updated on receipt of tracking information and also about the unit after it arrives.
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Re: [IN STOCK][NEW PRICE] BATCH3 - 31X Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SHIPPING FEB 14TH
February 12, 2014, 12:58:20 AM
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Sorry. I should've read it more closely.

It says in the description that each unit requires 2 power supplies. Can I use 1 large/powerful power supply? Can the PSU or PSU's be mounted inside the case like the old avalon units?
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February 15, 2014, 03:26:47 PM
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looks like you are correct. I will delete my posts in this thread

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February 15, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
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hey, phil, would you be able to confirm that you, or someone you know, have received a unit from him? if so, I am willing to delete my posts and do as you suggest. Thanks!

James
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hey, phil, would you be able to confirm that you, or someone you know, have received a unit from him? if so, I am willing to delete my posts and do as you suggest. Thanks!

James
James this GB stunk from day one and I have PM from him and his fake buyers from 1st batch. This was a scam from the start. Sorry for yours and the others loss.
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February 15, 2014, 03:31:23 PM
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No offense he doesn't really have to refund you this isn't Kmart you can't change your mind and expect an instant refund.

As long as he delivers the goods he has fulfilled his promise



I doubt there will be a delivery..

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Well, it didn't take long.

AvalonShenzhen has deleted all posts and disappeared.

Good riddance.
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