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Clearly I made a mistake ordering 10 of them.  The post is being deleted.  Below is a copy of what was listed that I happened to have in an open window from last night.


















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[IN STOCK][NEW PRICE] BATCH4 - 25 Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SHIPPING FEB 17TH
January 20, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
   
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BATCH4 OF AROUND 25 MINERS - SHIPPING SCHEDULED MONDAY 17th FEB
OPEN ORDERS - SELLING FAST - BTC PAYMENT - 5% DISCOUNT IF VALUE OF ORDER > 5 BTC.

AVALON SHENZEN MINER
AVALON 2nd Gen 55NM CHIPS
Hash rate at 1400 Mhz         : 215GH/S +-10%   Power consummation : +-920W
Hash rate at 1500 Mhz (OC) : 230GH/S +-10%   Power consummation : +-1000W
CASE SIZE: 47*35.5*16cm
Standalone machine - FIRMWARE 20131229 with cgminer 3.9.0
ETHERNET/WIFI card included

POWER: ! SOLD WITHOUT PSU !
       You need to buy at least 2 X 600 Watts. Each PSU must have with 1X ATX 24 Pin + 1X EPU + 2X PCI-E
       If you want to overclock the unit (1500Mhz), you need 2 X 750 Watts PSU with 1X 62Amp 12V rail.
       We recommend you the buy of modulable PSU for easier installation.


PICTURES
http://www.imagebam.com/image/b4fda7305747438
http://www.imagebam.com/image/d2d235305747439
http://www.imagebam.com/image/1f3b38305747441


WARRANTY
- 90 Days for Avalon Blade, PSU controller board and Motherboard.
- You have to send us the material and we will refund you the shipping cost if the warranty has to be applied.
- All the miners will be tested at least during 1 hour before shipping !
- OC the unit (1500Mhz) will void warranty

SHIPPING
- Everything is sent via DHL
- The 10 first miners are in stock and will be ship within 2-3 days. This delay includes the ship to HK and the pick up by DHL.
- Others units will be assembled and shipped within a maximum of 8 days per 50 units. We will refund you on request if we are not able to respect this delay.
- We have an important stock of blades but in order to reduce our shipping cost, we will send them only when full miners are also sent to HK.
  So sorry but we cannot send the parts on request or faster than the full miners.
- We will protect carefully the blades in order to avoid any damages during shipping.
  Please notice that we will use longer screws than the miners assembled by our competitor btmine.
  Our goal is that you receive your miner in perfect condition of mining.


PRICES (DHL SHIPPING INCLUDED)
1X Miner fully assembled with case : 1.451.10BTC  
                                                          1,450.00 $ (PAYPAL - ONLY for the 10 first orders)
                                                          

Blades :
1X Module 80 chips 105-110GH/S  + 1X data & alim connector                                                                              = 0.700.52BTC
2X Module 80 chips 105-110GH/S  + 2X data & alim connector + 1X PSU controler + 1X controler motherboard = 1.351.00BTC

!!! No Refund for Refused Packages / Forced Package Return !!!
Please notice that we don't work with escrow but we can arrange a local pickup in Shenzen.

HOW TO PURCHASE
1) Calculate the amount of your order with the prices displayed on this post.
    Apply 5% discount if your order > 5BTC
    Send your payment to the following address : 1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

2) Send an email to AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net with :
   - The bitcoin address used for your payment
   - The transaction ID of your payment
   - Your order - How many unit of each
   - Your email for tracking number
   - Your name and full  address + phone number for DHL
   - The value that you want on the invoice (custom's declaration)

3) Please make a post in this topic with your transaction ID to confirm your order. Like this we have also your nickname on Bitcointalk if we need to contact you and we will use this nickname to add you in our order list.

4) We'll send you the price and the BTC address/paypal address (each order will have a different BTC address for easier tracking)

5) You have to send the payment to the BTC address provided/paypal address to confirm your order

6) We'll update this topic 1 or 2 times per day with the confirmed orders - check it to know the status of your unit.

7) Tracking numbers will be sent by email.

Cool Please post your feedback (positive or negative) in this topic when you have your unit!

 
ORDERS LIST - 1.45 BTC

Username          Product            Quantity            Payment                 Status                

BATCH 1
02/04/2014                      
NicolaeTT                  Miner                     2               Paypal(2)                   Delivered
AlfonsoD                   Miner                     5               Paypal(2)-BTC(3)       Delivered
joehash                     Miner                     1               Paypal(1)                   Delivered
Jicoli                           Miner                     1               Paypal(1)                   Delivered
Bitdreamer                Miner                     1               Paypal(1)                   Delivered

BATCH 2
02/05/2014
Jeronico                     Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Delivered
Andrew                      Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Delivered
Krzyszt                      2X Blade                6               BTC(6)                      Delivered
MariusC                     Miner                     10             BTC(10)                    Delivered
Reuan                        Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Delivered

02/06/2014
Mathew                      Miner                     1               BTC(1)                     Delivered
Sabine                       Miner                     1               BTC(1)                     Delivered
William                       Miner                     1               BTC(1)                     Delivered
AndreyK                     Miner                     2               BTC(2)                     Delivered


ORDERS LIST - 1.10 BTC

Username            Product            Quantity            Payment                 Status

BATCH3
r7970                           Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Kuttingcorners             Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
blackheart13               Miner                     5               BTC(5)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
capa                            Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
LainZ                            Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Gologuzan                    Blade                    4                BTC(4)                      Shipped to HK - waiting UPS number
Maxximus007               Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
TracerX                         Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Pcpoet                         Miner                     7               BTC(7)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
bcollan                         Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Airwhale                        Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
r4square                       Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Xer0                              Miner                     5               BTC(5)                      Shipped to HK - waiting UPS/DHL N°
machinationus              Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Anarchyx                       Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
jwiz1911                        Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
drpp                              Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Digginit                         Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
n4longhaul                    Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
HorusFTW                     Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
sniffinpoprocks             Miner                     1               BTC(1)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
Serpiente12                  Miner                     2               BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number
drangos                        Blade                     2                BTC(2)                      Shipped to HK - waiting DHL number

BATCH4
falseflag                        Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
centfuercent                 Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
kaptainkrayola              Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
mvitguy                         Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
varakunai                      Miner                     3                BTC(3)                      Confirmed
anarchyx                       Miner                     2                BTC(2)                      Confirmed
Niggle                            Miner                     4                BTC(4)                      Confirmed
blackheart13                 Miner                     5                BTC(5)                      Confirmed
ando                              Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
jtoomim                         Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
mine2slow                      Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
Slander                          Miner                     6                BTC(6)                      Confirmed
iglasses                          Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
jamesc760                     Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
bcollan                            Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
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cannachris                      Miner                     1                BTC(1)                      Confirmed
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Re: [NOT YET OPEN] - Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5
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I am interested when do orders open? Also how much can these be overclocked?
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I am interested when do orders open? Also how much can these be overclocked?


how long do you take to open orders?
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Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6
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I am interested when do orders open? Also how much can these be overclocked?


We will open orders after chinese new year.

We will start with a small batch of some miners to prove you our honesty and competence.
After that we will start the manufacturing of around 200 miners. If this is a success we will be able to do more miners but we want fix us a limit in order to be able to provide a good quality of service.

They can be overclocked to 1500 Mhz like most avalon ship. However this will break the warranty of our materials.
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Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6
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Escrow ? ? ?
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Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6
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I would be interested in 1 or 2. Need specs, pics, and power consumption.
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I am interested, I will follow this.  Smiley

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I will be one of the first to order if you allow paypal.
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Im interested as well.

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Interested.
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Interested if taking paypal.
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How many will we be able to purchase before the unnecessary shipping delays start?  Perhaps you will only sell a daily quota that you can meet?
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Hello all,

Thank you for your interest.
Please follow closely this topic in order to stay in touch.

We will sell miners via paypal and BTC for the first orders in order to receive good reputation.
However after that we will only sell via BTC because of our low marge. Paypal is asking too many fees and next to that, they are freezing accounts during long period for verification purposes when lot of money is received suddenly As we are a small company we cannot afford to build new miners if we can't use the money of previous sales.

Regarding the specifications, please refer to the BTMine topic as we have received the same material. We will post pictures and more technical info on that topic before the start of the sales.

Hope we will be able to sell you some miners soon.

PS: I won't be online very often these days as we have a lot of work to prepare the manufacturing of our miners. However be sure I will be present on that forum to answer to all your questions when sales will start.

Regards
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Definitely keeping an eye on this thread.
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Hello all,

Thank you for your interest.
Please follow closely this topic in order to stay in touch.

We will sell miners via paypal and BTC for the first orders in order to receive good reputation.
However after that we will only sell via BTC because of our low marge. Paypal is asking too many fees and next to that, they are freezing accounts during long period for verification purposes when lot of money is received suddenly As we are a small company we cannot afford to build new miners if we can't use the money of previous sales.

Regarding the specifications, please refer to the BTMine topic as we have received the same material. We will post pictures and more technical info on that topic before the start of the sales.

Hope we will be able to sell you some miners soon.

PS: I won't be online very often these days as we have a lot of work to prepare the manufacturing of our miners. However be sure I will be present on that forum to answer to all your questions when sales will start.

Regards
Hi,

Please PM me when you start to sell. I'm looking for a lot of mining hash.
I will buy some 1st miners and if the quality is good I will make a big order.
Thx
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I will buy and review your units.
I'm well adjusted testing these now.

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I will buy and review your units.
I'm well adjusted testing these now.



Hello sikke,

Thank you for your interest.

The miners that you posted will be the ones that we will ship.
I suppose they are coming from BTmine as we have the same providers.

We will enjoy to sell you some miners but be informed that we won't select our first buyer. It is not fair
When we will start the sales, the first who buy and pay will be the first who will receive the miners.
We want the most transparency on that and we want also thanks the early buyers.

Just follow closely this thread and be quick when we start.

Regards,
  
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Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on January 22, 2014, 07:02:14 PM
Hello all,

Thank you for your interest.
Please follow closely this topic in order to stay in touch.

We will sell miners via paypal and BTC for the first orders in order to receive good reputation.
However after that we will only sell via BTC because of our low marge. Paypal is asking too many fees and next to that, they are freezing accounts during long period for verification purposes when lot of money is received suddenly As we are a small company we cannot afford to build new miners if we can't use the money of previous sales.

Regarding the specifications, please refer to the BTMine topic as we have received the same material. We will post pictures and more technical info on that topic before the start of the sales.

Hope we will be able to sell you some miners soon.

PS: I won't be online very often these days as we have a lot of work to prepare the manufacturing of our miners. However be sure I will be present on that forum to answer to all your questions when sales will start.

Regards
Hi,

Please PM me when you start to sell. I'm looking for a lot of mining hash.
I will buy some 1st miners and if the quality is good I will make a big order.
Thx

Hello AlfonsoD,

thank you for your interest.

As explained just before, we won't select our first buyer. When we will start the sales, the first who buy and pay will be the first who will receive the miners.

We will make a first sell of something like 10 miners so follow this thread closely. These miners will be on stock so the shipping will be quick (2-3 days -> this includes ship to HK and pick up by DHL).

After that we will take all the orders with the rule first in - first out but we won't be able to send them without some days of delay with a maximum of 8 working day. We will refund on demand if this max delay is not respected but we don't think it will be the case. Please notice that to keep prices low we need to send a batch of 15-20 packages to have good price with DHL

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This sounds good tell me more..
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Ok... not good news for me but I can understand that view.

I sent you a PM and will be there when you will start the early sales.

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So these are sold without PSU - how many PSUs, and what wattage and connector types are required?
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So these are sold without PSU - how many PSUs, and what wattage and connector types are required?

They should be the same blades as here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=379819.0
and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401185.0

Both have power specs.
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Quote from: BuildTheFuture on January 23, 2014, 12:11:42 AM
So these are sold without PSU - how many PSUs, and what wattage and connector types are required?

You will probably need 800-1000 Watt depending on overclock settings and how efficient the PSU is. Connector types I imagine will be pci-e 6 pin or molex 4 pin

Any news on when these will be available? 1.6 BTC is a good price but not for much longer with 28 and 20nm miners on the horizon...

how is 1.6 btc good price when you can buy antminer and have it shipped in 1-2 days for 1.9 btc? that's only a 0.3 btc difference. The power requirement for avalon is also higher than antminer.
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LOL Bob I would love to know what your total hash power is. I hope you BTminers work for you. 3t/hash here... including the 6 avalons just received.
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Hello,

I saw that sells will start after chinese new year.
Sorry to ask that but who know when is it? :p



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Hello,

Thank you for your interest.

yes we will be able to sell you parts.

We will sell miners with cases but we can sell you parts for replacement or to build new miners.

We will start this after the start of our sells and the shipping of the 1st miners as we have to receive a good reputation quickly to start serious business.
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Hi AvalonShenzen,

What is the hashrate that you can deliver in one time?
I have around 50 BTC that I would like invest in some avalon clones.
Could you please give me an offer in PM of the hashrate that I can have for 50 BTC?

Next to that, I know an agent in asia, is it possible that he comes to your physical location to check that everything is legit?

Waiting news from you.
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AvalonShenzhen,

Can you ship a 4 card unit with water blocks attached instead of heat sinks?  If so how may BTC for that?

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Hi AvalonShenzen,

What is the hashrate that you can deliver in one time?
I have around 50 BTC that I would like invest in some avalon clones.
Could you please give me an offer in PM of the hashrate that I can have for 50 BTC?

Next to that, I know an agent in asia, is it possible that he comes to your physical location to check that everything is legit?

Waiting news from you.

PM sent
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AvalonShenzhen,

Can you ship a 4 card unit with water blocks attached instead of heat sinks?  If so how may BTC for that?

H@shKraker

Hello,

Thank you for your interest but sorry, we don't have any watercooling system.
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so no sales until feb 17...
by then prices will drop from the competition...


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Quote from: BitWillConquer on January 23, 2014, 02:26:38 PM
Hello,

I saw that sells will start after chinese new year.
Sorry to ask that but who know when is it? :p



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Hello,

We will start the first sells of 10 miners  in stock the week feb 3.

After that sell, we will open orders for manufacturing on demand.
So as announced, there will be delay of some days before shipping with a max of 8 working days.

We will update the first post of this topic with technical info, pictures and prices end of next week.

Thank you all for your interest.


Quote from: cad_cdn on January 25, 2014, 07:05:40 PM
so no sales until feb 17...
by then prices will drop from the competition...


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Hello,

I saw that sells will start after chinese new year.
Sorry to ask that but who know when is it? :p


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Quote from: AlfonsoD on January 25, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
Hi AvalonShenzen,

What is the hashrate that you can deliver in one time?
I have around 50 BTC that I would like invest in some avalon clones.
Could you please give me an offer in PM of the hashrate that I can have for 50 BTC?

Next to that, I know an agent in asia, is it possible that he comes to your physical location to check that everything is legit?

Waiting news from you.

PM sent


Hi,

PM well received.

My contact will visit you on site Tuesday.
I gave him your contact info.

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Looking forward to grabbing one or two of these possibly... Although I'm thinking the S1's will be about 1.5btc after Chinese New Year in which case you may need to drop a bit to stay competitive (especially with the increased power consumption for same performance). In fact waiting until after the new year might actually hurt your sales.
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Quote from: AlfonsoD on January 25, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
Hi AvalonShenzen,

What is the hashrate that you can deliver in one time?
I have around 50 BTC that I would like invest in some avalon clones.
Could you please give me an offer in PM of the hashrate that I can have for 50 BTC?

Next to that, I know an agent in asia, is it possible that he comes to your physical location to check that everything is legit?

Waiting news from you.

PM sent


Hi,

PM well received.

My contact will visit you on site Tuesday.have
I gave him your contact info.

Alf.

Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

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Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

Alf.

Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

Alf.
[/quote]

When posts like this come from an experienced member they hold a little weight.
But from a Newbie it means nothing. ( No offense meant )
and all these new Avalon Production firm Threads come with accompanying Newbie posts like this.
Many have been a disaster or scam.

Anyways with Ants@1.45 these are too expensive.

Edit - F*cked up the quote, corrected
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where are the ants @ 1.45? (link please)

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Quote from: AlfonsoD on January 30, 2014, 08:44:59 PM

Hi,

PM well received.

My contact will visit you on site Tuesday.have
I gave him your contact info.

Alf.

Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

Alf.

When posts like this come from an experienced member they hold a little weight.
But from a Newbie it means nothing. ( No offense meant )
and all these new Avalon Production firm Threads come with accompanying Newbie posts like this.
Many have been a disaster or scam.

Anyways with Ants@1.45 these are too expensive.

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Quote from: southerngentuk on January 30, 2014, 09:16:38 PM
Quote from: AlfonsoD on January 30, 2014, 08:44:59 PM

Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

Alf.

Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

Alf.

When posts like this come from an experienced member they hold a little weight.
But from a Newbie it means nothing. ( No offense meant )
and all these new Avalon Production firm Threads come with accompanying Newbie posts like this.
Many have been a disaster or scam.

Anyways with Ants@1.45 these are too expensive.

Edit - F*cked up the quote, corrected


Hehe, no problem it was just to share with you the last info that I got.
After, everybody is free to do the same verification that I did.

Regarding the Ants, it is good news, I was not aware of that new price...
It is time for OP to update his prices :p:p:p
Next to that, if we can have these avalon for the same price than the ants, I will choose avalon.
I don't paid electricity and these avalon can be easly OC to 230Ghz so around 25% more than a Ant

Alf.

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Quote from: southerngentuk on January 30, 2014, 09:16:38 PM
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Quote from: AlfonsoD on January 30, 2014, 08:44:59 PM

Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

Alf.

Hi,

Just a small post to share with you that my contact has confirmed me that this company is well real and has a quiet important stock of material.

This is a small company in shenzen but they look very motivated and are working hard to be ready by next week while the china new year is also approaching and causing small delays...

I will try for sure to buy some miners from them when they will ready and will give you some feedback.

Alf.

When posts like this come from an experienced member they hold a little weight.
But from a Newbie it means nothing. ( No offense meant )
and all these new Avalon Production firm Threads come with accompanying Newbie posts like this.
Many have been a disaster or scam.

Anyways with Ants@1.45 these are too expensive.

Edit - F*cked up the quote, corrected


Hehe, no problem it was just to share with you the last info that I got.
After, everybody is free to do the same verification that I did.

Regarding the Ants, it is good news, I was not aware of that new price...
It is time for OP to update his prices :p:p:p
Next to that, if we can have these avalon for the same price than the ants, I will choose avalon.
I don't paid electricity and these avalon can be easly OC to 230Ghz so around 25% more than a Ant

Alf.



Avalon is power hungry and very very very very FEW people are successful overclocking any of the Avalon gen 2 miners.....seems the manuf is not going to the nines so at BEST you get 220 gh at twice the power.  Hardly a bargain.  Ant easy to set up and easy on power

I would not buy an Avalon miner expecially the same manufact as BTmine for even par with a ANT the ant is worth more by and far.  Sorry thats the truth not an opinion.
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Any news about your Group Buy?
you mentioned that we will have more info end of this week so it is time now?

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any more units  Roll Eyes damn.
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1X Module 80 chips 210GH/S  + 1X data & alim connector                                                                               = 0.70 BTC


Do you mean 40 chips at 105? Please let me know.
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Hello All,

We just shipped the 10 miners in stock to HK.
We should receive from our logistic company the DHL tracking numbers by tomorrow night.
Thank you for your confidence.

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Hello Grumpy619,

indeed there was a typo mistake in the description

Miners have 2 blades.
Each blade has 80 chips which gives around 105-110 GH/s

You can see the blade that we are selling on that picture.
The picture shows 3 blades.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/b4fda7305747438

Thank you for your interest.

PS: description corrected

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1X Module 80 chips 210GH/S  + 1X data & alim connector                                                                               = 0.70 BTC


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Good news!
Thanks for the update.


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Quote from: AlfonsoD on February 04, 2014, 07:12:27 AM
Good news!
Thanks for the update.


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Hello All,

We just shipped the 10 miners in stock to HK.
We should receive from our logistic company the DHL tracking numbers by tomorrow night.
Thank you for your confidence.



 Cry Cry Cry

Damit. Wish there could have been few units for poor me.
Haha.  Shocked
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Hello Sikke,

We have blades available and we can assemble them for you .
But as we explained to you by PM, we cannot take more orders via paypal due to our low marge on that price and the risk having our paypal account frozen during weeks.

However orders via BTC payment is available for everybody.

Regards,

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Quote from: AlfonsoD on February 04, 2014, 07:12:27 AM
Good news!
Thanks for the update.


Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on February 04, 2014, 06:46:52 AM
Hello All,

We just shipped the 10 miners in stock to HK.
We should receive from our logistic company the DHL tracking numbers by tomorrow night.
Thank you for your confidence.



 Cry Cry Cry

Damit. Wish there could have been few units for poor me.
Haha.  Shocked
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Hello Sikke,

We have blades available and we can assemble them for you .
But as we explained to you by PM, we cannot take more orders via paypal due to our low marge on that price and the risk having our paypal account frozen during weeks.

However orders via BTC payment is available for everybody.

Regards,

yes noted and i agree  Grin

I'll make BTC orders soon.

For others wanting to pay by paypal:
Paypal has fee least 3% and they dont like Bitcoin equipment selling
(Seller may have funds frozen for up to 6 weeks)
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What makes this better than antminer?

Currently these are the same price, antminer mines at 180 though, this mines at 215. Antminer ships saturday, this is within 8 days, so that being said is this the better buy?
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What makes this better than antminer?

Currently these are the same price, antminer mines at 180 though, this mines at 215. Antminer ships saturday, this is within 8 days, so that being said is this the better buy?

Power consumption.
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Ah, I see now, so do you think the 35GH/s is worth saving on the energy consumption?
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Ah, I see now, so do you think the 35GH/s is worth saving on the energy consumption?

I think u can run an antminer on 400w so u can do the math.
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30GH more than an S1 but 3x times the power consumption
also 3-4 more space ... had 4 ants standing on one Avalon

i dont realy get the point in mining with them
but damn these go well on ebay  Grin
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30GH more than an S1 but 3x times the power consumption
also 3-4 more space ... had 4 ants standing on one Avalon

i dont realy get the point in mining with them
but damn these go well on ebay  Grin

when you say them and these, you are refering to avalon yes?
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Ah, I see now, so do you think the 35GH/s is worth saving on the energy consumption?

This is not an easy question and there is no easy answer to this.
I had the same thinking some days before...
It depends if you pay energy or not and if you pay, at which rate you pay it.
These parameters are not the same for all the people here.

I chose this avalon vs the Ant because I will overclock it to 230 GH/s and that I don't pay electricity.
People told me it is not easy to overclock these miners but check their picture, this is a good example that it is possible. So for me, for the same price, I have 230GH/s vs 180GH/S for the Ant. It is a big difference in my case.

So do your calculation and decide Wink It is difficult to advise you on that topic.

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Quote from: shiunsai on February 04, 2014, 01:17:25 PM
Ah, I see now, so do you think the 35GH/s is worth saving on the energy consumption?

This is not an easy question and there is no easy answer to this.
I had the same thinking some days before...
It depends if you pay energy or not and if you pay, at which rate you pay it.
These parameters are not the same for all the people here.

I chose this avalon vs the Ant because I will overclock it to 230 GH/s and that I don't pay electricity.
People told me it is not easy to overclock these miners but check their picture, this is a good example that it is possible. So for me, for the same price, I have 230GH/s vs 180GH/S for the Ant. It is a big difference in my case.

So do your calculation and decide Wink It is difficult to advise you on that topic.

Alf.

Okay word yeah that makes much more sense, you aren't afraid of overclocking it? haha, OC always sketches me out.
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What makes this better than antminer?

Currently these are the same price, antminer mines at 180 though, this mines at 215. Antminer ships saturday, this is within 8 days, so that being said is this the better buy?

Nothing makes this better but some people ignore power over GH/s
I have 4 of these units now all running 1500 OC running time over 72hours stable since last tuneup.
Currently total I get from 4 units is 900GH/s maybe average 880 to pool.
They hash 220-230, some units have dead chips.
I think i have total of 15 chips dead/cold accross 4 units.
with all chips hashing i would be over 900GH/s

To achieve this i had to modify Fans to 100%

-They are loud
-They are hot
-They drain +50% more watts compared to antminers
-They need 2x psu
-They are super fragile, most users cannot get these stable or break stuff trying it
-They are not for amateurs
-You may lose your connection to the miner... if you fail.

But for some reason I love them now and i want more  Shocked Grin
Some people want to buy hardware power it on and gain profit.
Some of us like to tinker with stuff to achieve max.

I get 900GH/s with 4kW terrible i know Tongue
I could still double that.

Untill they make less than 2.5$ / day / unit they are wort keep running. These make what 40-50$ /day now, I dont have exact numbers

Lowest HW errors 3.7% higest 5.5%
230GH/s stable +2days
 

Antminer is very customer friendly solution and solid performer.
I will but some more Ants too
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Quote from: shiunsai on February 04, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
What makes this better than antminer?

Currently these are the same price, antminer mines at 180 though, this mines at 215. Antminer ships saturday, this is within 8 days, so that being said is this the better buy?

Nothing makes this better but some people ignore power over GH/s
I have 4 of these units now all running 1500 OC running time over 72hours stable since last tuneup.
Currently total I get from 4 units is 900GH/s maybe average 880 to pool.
They hash 220-230, some units have dead chips.
I think i have total of 15 chips dead/cold accross 4 units.
with all chips hashing i would be over 900GH/s

To achieve this i had to modify Fans to 100%

-They are loud
-They are hot
-They drain +50% more watts compared to antminers
-They need 2x psu
-They are super fragile, most users cannot get these stable or break stuff trying it
-They are not for amateurs
-You may lose your connection to the miner... if you fail.

But for some reason I love them now and i want more  Shocked Grin
Some people want to buy hardware power it on and gain profit.
Some of us like to tinker with stuff to achieve max.

I get 900GH/s with 4kW terrible i know Tongue
I could still double that.

Untill they make less than 2.5$ / day / unit they are wort keep running. These make what 40-50$ /day now, I dont have exact numbers

Lowest HW errors 3.7% higest 5.5%
230GH/s stable +2days
 

Antminer is very customer friendly solution and solid performer.
I will but some more Ants too


Oh wow, thanks for laying that all down for me, puts a lot into retrospect, and I can totally see where you're coming from with the two POV's Cheesy
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yes the other important point on electricy beside the cost: load

usual european breaker delivers 3k6W peak and 2-3 kW steady depending on wiring
110v households even much much less

most people put them in the basement/cellar/storageroom where most only have 1 line
so thats 2-3 Avalons you can run per breaker = 400-700GH vs 8-9 Ants = 1.4-1.6 TH

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Quote from: Xer0 on February 04, 2014, 01:28:44 PM
30GH more than an S1 but 3x times the power consumption
also 3-4 more space ... had 4 ants standing on one Avalon

i dont realy get the point in mining with them
but damn these go well on ebay  Grin

when you say them and these, you are refering to avalon yes?
yes. Avalons
Ants dont got that well on eBay. peeps dont know enough
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Good news, we received DHL tracking numbers sooner than foreseen.
Tracking numbers have been sent to your email.

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Hello,

Good news, we received DHL tracking numbers sooner than foreseen.
Tracking numbers have been sent to your email.

Regards.

Hello AvalonShenzen,

Thanks a lot, well received :

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Already picked up for me  Cheesy
Nice job OP!

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OPEN ORDERS - QUICK SHIPPING - BTC PAYMENT - 5% DISCOUNT IF ORDER > 5 BTC.

AvalonShenzen it is not fair...
My order was more than 5 BTC and I didn't receive this discount  Huh

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Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on January 20, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
OPEN ORDERS - QUICK SHIPPING - BTC PAYMENT - 5% DISCOUNT IF ORDER > 5 BTC.

AvalonShenzen it is not fair...
My order was more than 5 BTC and I didn't receive this discount  Huh

Alf.

Hello AlfonsoD,

We are sorry but we can only give that discount to people who pay now in BTC.
We had too much fees via paypal to give you an additional discount on the price.

As we discussed by email, we will be please to give you these 5% + a small bonus to your next order.

Thank you for your comprehension

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If i place an order for 2-4 units, when is the approx eta of shipping to Australia.

Hello sikboy,

We have around 15 miners to assemble before your possible order. So we should be able to assemble your order beginning of next week.

Thank you for your interest.
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February 06, 2014, 02:02:25 PM
   
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Quote from: AlfonsoD on February 05, 2014, 11:00:33 AM
Already picked up for me  Cheesy
Nice job OP!

Wednesday, February 05, 2014    Location    Time  
2    Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    13:08    
1    Shipment picked up    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    12:14

My 2 miners should be delivered by DHL tomorrow.
I took a day off to prepare everything and be ready to mine this week-end.

Till now I can only say one thing : thank you AvalonShenzen for the quick ship and the good communication.

I just hope that the 2 miners will be delivered ready to mine without any issue.
I will keep you update.

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Re: [HOT][GROUP BUY WORLDWIDE] Avalon Miner 215GH/s BTC1.35 QUICK SHIPPING
February 06, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
   
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Dear customers,

We would like to thank you for your confidence and your orders.

We have 2 good news for you :

- All the orders listed on our first post will be shipped Monday 10th or Tuesday 11th in the morning.
  We will work hard this week-end to finish the assembling and the packaging of this second batch of orders.

- Due to difficulty increased and the new price of our competitors, we are aligning the price of our miner to 1.35BTC.
So from now, all the new orders of miners will be at 1.35BTC per piece + 5% discount if your order > 5 BTC.
Most of you asked us a delivery date for an order done now. We are now able to answer you.
The first batch (maximum 30 pieces) of miners paid 1.35BTC will be shipped to HK Friday 14th Feb.
So you can expect receiving your miners at home the Monday 17th Feb via DHL.

We hope you like these news.

Can we ask you to send your orders or questions to our email AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net and also inform us via a post on this topic that you sent us an email. We have a lot of work scheduled for the coming days and the PM are taking a lot of time to answer to everybody.


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Are you still selling?  I'm interested in one.

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February 06, 2014, 11:27:24 PM
   
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@AvalonShenzhen

Congrats, you have looked and listened to the community, the paypal for first orders to build confidence, regular price reductions to match competition. Good Communication, Now all that is needed is to deliver and receive feedback on quality.

If you succeed in that final step then you will be the No.1 Chinese Avalon reseller here, as all others have appeared to fail at some stage.

Best of luck

Watching, and may even purchase once some reviews have been posted.

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February 06, 2014, 11:48:15 PM
   
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I would like to get one but am worried about being held at custom to pay import tax. Do you have any problem shipping it in the UK previously ? Does this comes fully assembled with PSU unit?
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February 07, 2014, 07:03:38 AM
   
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Are you still selling?  I'm interested in one.

Thanks,

Peter

Hello Peter.

We are currently selling at 1.35 BTC for shipping Feb 17th.
Please send your order to our email  AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net with the following info :

- Your bitcoin adress
   - Your order - How many unit of what
   - Your email for tracking number
   - Your name and full  adress + phone number for DHL
   - The value that you want on the invoice (custom's declaration)

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February 07, 2014, 07:30:46 AM
   
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@AvalonShenzhen

Congrats, you have looked and listened to the community, the paypal for first orders to build confidence, regular price reductions to match competition. Good Communication, Now all that is needed is to deliver and receive feedback on quality.

If you succeed in that final step then you will be the No.1 Chinese Avalon reseller here, as all others have appeared to fail at some stage.

Best of luck

Watching, and may even purchase once some reviews have been posted.



Thank you southerngentuk

We are doing our best to have good reputation.
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February 07, 2014, 07:35:35 AM
   
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I would like to get one but am worried about being held at custom to pay import tax. Do you have any problem shipping it in the UK previously ? Does this comes fully assembled with PSU unit?

Hello mingophoria,

In your order email, please provide the value that you want on the invoice.
Your custom will check that invoice and will ask you some taxes or not (depending of your luck).
I think in Europe it is about 20% of the amount if you have to pay something.

We already sent in europe and had no issue with custom.

Hope it helps.

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February 07, 2014, 10:16:45 AM
   
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Hi Guys,

I have them  Grin Grin Grin

http://www.imagebam.com/image/7a7cc5306437041
http://www.imagebam.com/image/2264b4306437042

They are in perfect state, I opened the cases and everything is in place and there is no damage like I already saw in other avalon topic...

So I already installed 2 PSU 750 Watts in each cases.
It is powered and running now but I'm currently trying to connect to it but don't find the IP.
Can someone help me?
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February 07, 2014, 10:20:02 AM
   
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Hi Guys,

I have them  Grin Grin Grin

http://www.imagebam.com/image/7a7cc5306437041
http://www.imagebam.com/image/2264b4306437042

They are in perfect state, I opened the cases and everything is in place and there is no damage like I already saw in other avalon topic...

So I already installed 2 PSU 750 Watts in each cases.
It is powered and running now but I'm currently trying to connect to it but don't find the IP.
Can someone help me?


Hello Nicolae,

You should find the ip adress on the top of the cases :
It is something like 192.168.0.XXX

Nice to see you already have them. Hope you like our material.
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February 07, 2014, 11:24:44 AM
   
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It is working.
Thanks again AvalonShenzen for your support.

I have 1 miner hashing at 219GHs and the other one at 221GHs at 1400.
I don't know yet if I will overclock them but it is already a very good hashrate.

So yes I'm very satisfied Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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February 07, 2014, 12:35:11 PM
   
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Just received my 5 miners.

First comment : They are heavy!!!
But the case is nice and everything is well assembled.
I didn't find any damage due to the transportation.

I'm finishing to add the PSU to the miners.
One advice for you guys, take modulated PSU because these cases don't have a lot of place for all the cables of 2 traditional PSU.

The 3 units already powered are hashing at more than 230GH/S at 1500(231,232, and 236!!!).
Till now everything is fine. I'm thinking to buy more of them and specially now at 1.35BTC.
I will post some pictures this week-end if I find the time.


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February 07, 2014, 01:20:21 PM
   
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Can you ship to Canada? And how much time before I can get it?
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February 07, 2014, 01:31:31 PM
   
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Can you ship to Canada? And how much time before I can get it?

Hello Valkir,

Sure, we ship worldwide via DHL.
Orders done now at 1.35BTC will be sent Friday 14th.
It takes 2-3 days for Worldwide delivery with DHL.

Thank you for your interest.
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February 07, 2014, 06:12:13 PM
   
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Miner well received with a hashrate of 222GH/S!
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February 07, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
   
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Is it including PSU unit?
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Is it including PSU unit?

Hello,

There is no PSU in our miners.
Please refer to our first post for a complete description.
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February 07, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
   
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Hi going to order 2-5 miners early Tuesday or Wednesday. What kind of power supply should I get for the miners? and how long does it take to receive my orders? Thanks.
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February 08, 2014, 02:06:12 AM
   
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hi I'm going to order two miners to canada this sounds like a great deal. time to go and sell some crypto coins so if I'm reading this right i send my bit coins tonight and I should receive my miner by feb 17?
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February 08, 2014, 05:54:32 AM
   
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Hello,

yes we still have miners available for a ship 14th.
However we received quite big orders so don't wait too much as we will be able to send only around 30 miners.
Other orders will be send the week after.

Please send us an email with the requested information (see first post)

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February 08, 2014, 10:30:38 AM
   
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Hello all,

Due to several orders not yet paid, we have to change the process of the ordering.
This is creating a lot of following work while we have to assemble units.

So for the new orders, please follow the process described below.
Current orders, please send your payment to the BTC adress that we provided to you to confirm your units.


HOW TO PURCHASE
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1) Calculate the amount of your order with the prices on the first topic
    Apply 5% discount if your order > 5BTC
    Send your payment to the following address : 1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

2) Send an email to AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net with :
   - The bitcoin address used for your payment
   - The transaction ID of your payment
   - Your order - How many unit of each
   - Your email for tracking number
   - Your name and full  address + phone number for DHL
   - The value that you want on the invoice (custom's declaration)

Thank you for your comprehension.
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February 08, 2014, 01:33:58 PM
   
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Hi OP,

I finished to install all my miners and they hashing fine... better than expected hehe.

Do you still have orders available for friday 14 ship?

Did you change your email address?
Which one have I to use ? yahoo or safe-mail.net?

Alf.
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Hi OP,

I finished to install all my miners and they hashing fine... better than expected hehe.

Do you still have orders available for friday 14 ship?

Did you change your email address?
Which one have I to use ? yahoo or safe-mail.net?

Alf.


Hello Alfonso,

We are happy that you like our material.

We received a lot of orders but most of them are not yet paid...
This is why we changed our ordering process.
So as orders not paid are not confirmed, yes we have still available miners for all.

Please use from now our email AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net.

We created the yahoo email for this group buy but Yahoo has frozen our account for spam suspicion...
Perhaps we sent/received too many emails or they received a complaint from a competitor.
We don't know yet, their customer service is not very reactive.

It is not a problem for paid orders as we put all the data in our database when an order is paid.
For those who have not yet paid, please send asap your payment to the BTC address that we provided and forward us emails with all the info regarding your order to AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net

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February 08, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
   
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TXID: c56557cda72915c695190501940ddf35f878a362a505b418c454c252e0b366ce

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Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.
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Just sent my payment for 1.35 btc  id# bcc050cb3c9eb8f486fda8663e292ca1410751b670822827394795ef188e078e

if this works out good I'm going to order 5!
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Quote from: joehash on February 08, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


What psu's did you use and did they fit in the case ok?
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Quote from: joehash on February 08, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


What psu's did you use and did they fit in the case ok?

Hi,

I'm using 2 corsair CS750M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139061

It is a modular PSU and it is fitting very well in the case.
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*** UPDATE ***

Dear customers,

We would like give you an update this Sunday after a week-end of hard work.
We finished this Sunday to assemble all the units of the order list at 1.45 BTC.
We will ship all these units this Monday to Honk Kong and we will receive DHL tracking numbers Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning.

Regarding the order list at 1.35 BTC, till now we received orders for more than 20 units but only 2 are already paid.
We don't know if we received false orders from competitors or if people just need some days to pay their orders.
In any case, all orders not paid are orders not confirmed. So for us, all these units are still available for other customers who are able to pay immediately.

To resume the situation, we will build around 35 miners during the coming week and we will ship all these units on Friday 14th. So if you are interested and if you are able to pay now, please follow this process :


1) Calculate the amount of your order with the prices displayed on the first post of this topic.
    Apply 5% discount if your order > 5BTC
    Send your payment to the following address : 1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

2) Send an email to AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net with :
   - The bitcoin address used for your payment
   - The transaction ID of your payment
   - Your order - How many unit of each
   - Your email for tracking number
   - Your name and full  address + phone number for DHL
   - The value that you want on the invoice (custom's declaration)

3) Please make a post in this topic with your transaction ID to confirm your order. Like this we have also your nickname on Bitcointalk if we need to contact you and we will use this nickname to add you in our order list.


Have a nice Sunday.

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Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


So nobody can advice me?
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Quote from: joehash on February 08, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


So nobody can advice me?

If you have it with cool enough room ure fine. Try it 24h
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PRICES (DHL SHIPPING INCLUDED)
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1X Miner fully assembled with case : 1.451.35BTC 
                                                          1,450.00 $ (PAYPAL - ONLY for the 10 first orders)

Blades :
1X Module 80 chips 105-110GH/S  + 1X data & alim connector                                                                               = 0.70 BTC
2X Module 80 chips 105-110GH/S  + 2X data & alim connector + 1X PSU controler + 1X controler motherboard = 1.35BTC


this options are good to have, but can you regulate prices a bit?

first option gives us whole miner with case and PSU? for 1.35BTC
and third option have same price but no PSU and case..... should not there be some kind of discount since you keep case and PSU's?
and second option is hardest one. to order only 2 modules i need 1.4BTC, and where is the rest?

once again it is good thing to have those options, but prices need a bit of change...

and it would be even better if you throw in options for only control unit, only PDU (PSU controller), and cables....
 best thing in mining is playing with hardware, this way if/when i fry something i can order that part easily.

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So i really want to order and get it shipped now in 12th February is this stil possible? i have required the bitcoins needed but im not so used to all this so i just need a confirmation....i am buying a mining rig of 200GH/S + ? And all i need for it to work is PSU and then its plug n play?
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PRICES (DHL SHIPPING INCLUDED)
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1X Miner fully assembled with case : 1.451.35BTC 
                                                          1,450.00 $ (PAYPAL - ONLY for the 10 first orders)

Blades :
1X Module 80 chips 105-110GH/S  + 1X data & alim connector                                                                               = 0.70 BTC
2X Module 80 chips 105-110GH/S  + 2X data & alim connector + 1X PSU controler + 1X controler motherboard = 1.35BTC


this options are good to have, but can you regulate prices a bit?

first option gives us whole miner with case and PSU? for 1.35BTC
and third option have same price but no PSU and case..... should not there be some kind of discount since you keep case and PSU's?
and second option is hardest one. to order only 2 modules i need 1.4BTC, and where is the rest?

once again it is good thing to have those options, but prices need a bit of change...

and it would be even better if you throw in options for only control unit, only PDU (PSU controller), and cables....
 best thing in mining is playing with hardware, this way if/when i fry something i can order that part easily.


Hello Gologuzan,

We didn't update the blade because we received only one order for them.
Most people want full miners. Please notice also that full miners are NOT provided with PSU.

Send us an email (AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net )with the quantity of blades that you want and we will give you an offer. This will be ship friday 14TH with the full miners. We also updated our prices on the first post.

Regarding Control unit, PDU and cables price, please contact us directly if you want to order some. We cannot propose everything on this single post and keep everything updated just in case of.

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Quote from: serpiente12 on February 09, 2014, 06:46:20 PM
So i really want to order and get it shipped now in 12th February is this stil possible? i have required the bitcoins needed but im not so used to all this so i just need a confirmation....i am buying a mining rig of 200GH/S + ? And all i need for it to work is PSU and then its plug n play?

Hello Serpiente12,

Thank you for your interest.
First of all, it will be shipped friday 14Th feb and not 12th, just to be sure you know it.
It as a mining rig of at least 215GH/S but look on the post of earlier customers, most of the time it is around 220GH/S.

The full miner is a stand alone miner. So yes, you need to install 2PSU (check first post to have tech. specifications) in the miner and connect it to internet.

After that, you just have to enter the info about your pool to start mining.
If you have any difficulties, we can give you support via teamviewer but it is very simple.

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Hi,
How many do you have available for shipping on the 14th still?
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Hi,
How many do you have available for shipping on the 14th still?
Thanks

Hello,

For immediate order, we have still 33 units available.
If not immediate, difficult to say because we have around 20 units ordered via different orders but not yet paid. So if people start to pay soon, we can be sold out very quickly.

Thank you for your interest

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I'm ordering one now & sending payment immediately.  Look forward to receiving the tracking number.
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Payment has been sent for 1.
Email sent providing the shipping address & email for tracking info.
It includes my bitcointalk id: blackheart13

Thanks - looking forward to receiving this unit & making additional purchases.
Will keep this post updated on receipt of tracking information and also about the unit after it arrives.
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Payment has been sent for 1.
Email sent providing the shipping address & email for tracking info.
It includes my bitcointalk id: blackheart13

Thanks - looking forward to receiving this unit & making additional purchases.
Will keep this post updated on receipt of tracking information and also about the unit after it arrives.


Thank you blackheart13

Order confirmed.

Please give us positive/negative feedback when you have your unit in hand.
We want to do our best to provide customer satisfaction and we are not afraid to improve us if needed.

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Quote from: joehash on February 09, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: joehash on February 08, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


So nobody can advice me?

If you have it with cool enough room ure fine. Try it 24h

Thanks

I will try today and let you know the results.

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Quote from: sikke on February 09, 2014, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: joehash on February 09, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: joehash on February 08, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


So nobody can advice me?

If you have it with cool enough room ure fine. Try it 24h

Thanks

I will try today and let you know the results.

Hi Joe,

if you have already 224GH/S, you should have around 235GH/S easy.
My best miner is hashing around 236.5 GH/S since the day I received it (feb 07) without any issue.
I put the fan at 100% and my temps are around 35°

Tell us how much you have Wink I want do a contest :p
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Hi Alfonso,

You won, I have +-234GH/S and a 93 Watts increased.
My temps are currently 37° so I think I will continue like that.
 
I'm happy, it is a very nice hashrate and I hope that I will have enough BTC before the end of this batch to buy one more.
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1 unit

Transaction ID: 62f19682bdfd3b813be061e184b90978ac2301b029d5b463c51b6b4c0d75fedc

I cant wait to try this puppy Smiley
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Hi Alfonso,

You won, I have +-234GH/S and a 93 Watts increased.
My temps are currently 37° so I think I will continue like that.
 
I'm happy, it is a very nice hashrate and I hope that I will have enough BTC before the end of this batch to buy one more.

Nice hash Joe,
stay below 40° and it should run fine.

I'm also very interested by buying other units but most of my BTC are frozen in MTGox :s :s :s.
If someone can borrow me some BTC hehe (joking)
I'm hashing as much as I can with my 5 units and I hope I will have 1.35BTC by friday...
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Quote from: joehash on February 10, 2014, 05:59:49 AM
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Quote from: joehash on February 09, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: joehash on February 08, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


So nobody can advice me?

If you have it with cool enough room ure fine. Try it 24h

Thanks

I will try today and let you know the results.

Hi Joe,

if you have already 224GH/S, you should have around 235GH/S easy.
My best miner is hashing around 236.5 GH/S since the day I received it (feb 07) without any issue.
I put the fan at 100% and my temps are around 35°

Tell us how much you have Wink I want do a contest :p

I'm the WINNER.

Some hours ago, I set my fans to 100% and I opened the window in the room.
So now my temp are below 30° but look my hashrate :



I have more than 239 GH/S at 1500Mhz as average for 2 hours of mining.
Incredible, Avalon Shenzen, I like your miners !!! hehe

More seriously, 239 GH/S for 1.35 BTC, I think it is the best offer currently if you don't pay too much your electricity. I want more!

So an advice guys, this miner has a better hashrate in a fresh room.
I don't have the time and the material, but I can't imagine the hashrate that we can have with watercooling....


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do you take escrow (tomatocage or JohnK )
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Hello ahmed_bodi,

No sorry we don't use escrow.

We used paypal for the first orders to prove that we are legit but now at 1.35BTC, our marge is very low.
Please read this topic, you will see that we already delivered and that people are satisfied.
We are trying our best for customer satisfaction.

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Hi Joe,

Indeed, you have very good ships on your blades Wink

I was using another Avalon clone before these 5 units and this one was hashing at 225GH/S at maximum.
I sold it 2X the price that I bought it on Ebay.

It is quite strange that we have difference like this between clone blades but ok this time we are lucky.
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Hello,

All the units ordered now will be shipped this Friday 14 th via DHL express (2-3 days for worldwide delivery).

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srry but how is possible that you have a big queque of costumers that already paid via btc but at your payment's address link result only 1 transaction? http://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh
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srry but how is possible that you have a big queque of costumers that already paid via btc but at your payment's address link result only 1 transaction? http://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

Because at the beginning, we were providing a different bitcoin address for each customer for tracking purpose.
But we had a lot of people who ordered but didn't pay so now we ask a payment on that "general" bitcoin address before requesting an order to us.

If you want some examples, here are the last addresses used to pay the 3 last orders before we decided to go to the general address feature (yesterday) :
19fgLreD3gpcmwVhFgKtbLXuekiMVMJ1rQ
1L6DXHBSTk6rk2ywXQvcaKRoG7ARVWZXm5
1utV6AgCPyCGfj2ve8TLge3DAyU7UQwbG

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Hello all,

We just received the tracking numbers for batch 2.
We sent them to your email, so please check and come back to us if you didn't receive it.

We did small cleanup in that topic about the escrow question and we added the info in our first post.

Till now, we have 14 units in stock and we will reach the 35 units for the Batch 3 by Friday.

Due to the bitcoin value drop, we will have to increase the BTC amount by miner for batch 4 if this continues to follow this trend. We are sorry for that, but we don't pay our provider with BTC.

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Due to the bitcoin value drop, we will have to increase the BTC amount by miner for batch 4 if this continues to follow this trend. We are sorry for that, but we don't pay our provider with BTC.


Avalon Shenzen,

Do you know already at which price in BTC you will sell your batch 4?
Don't forget that with difficulty increased we will earn also less with the same hashrate.
I hope you will stay with correct prices because I'm frozen till MTGOX releases my BTC.

Alf.
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Quote from: AlfonsoD on February 10, 2014, 08:35:56 AM
Quote from: joehash on February 10, 2014, 05:59:49 AM
Quote from: sikke on February 09, 2014, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: joehash on February 09, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: joehash on February 08, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Hi,

I'm hashing since yesterday between 222 and 224 GH/S at 1400Mhz!

I would like try to overclock it to 1500Mhz to see which hash rate I will obtain.
Could you please tell me which are the risk to do it?
Till now, my temps are very good, around 30° and I installed 2X 750 Watts PSU.

Thank you for your advices.


So nobody can advice me?

If you have it with cool enough room ure fine. Try it 24h

Thanks

I will try today and let you know the results.

Hi Joe,

if you have already 224GH/S, you should have around 235GH/S easy.
My best miner is hashing around 236.5 GH/S since the day I received it (feb 07) without any issue.
I put the fan at 100% and my temps are around 35°

Tell us how much you have Wink I want do a contest :p

I'm the WINNER.

Some hours ago, I set my fans to 100% and I opened the window in the room.
So now my temp are below 30° but look my hashrate :



I have more than 239 GH/S at 1500Mhz as average for 2 hours of mining.
Incredible, Avalon Shenzen, I like your miners !!! hehe

More seriously, 239 GH/S for 1.35 BTC, I think it is the best offer currently if you don't pay too much your electricity. I want more!

So an advice guys, this miner has a better hashrate in a fresh room.
I don't have the time and the material, but I can't imagine the hashrate that we can have with watercooling....




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Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on February 11, 2014, 01:26:28 PM

Due to the bitcoin value drop, we will have to increase the BTC amount by miner for batch 4 if this continues to follow this trend. We are sorry for that, but we don't pay our provider with BTC.


Avalon Shenzen,

Do you know already at which price in BTC you will sell your batch 4?
Don't forget that with difficulty increased we will earn also less with the same hashrate.
I hope you will stay with correct prices because I'm frozen till MTGOX releases my BTC.

Alf.

Hello Alfonso,

We don't know yet. It will depend of the bitcoin value. We will let you know as soon as possible.

We know that these blades will earn less and less BTC. But we have an important stock of blades so we have to find a win-win solution. We want sell them at a good price for you but we need to don't loose money neither.

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Are batch 3 still available? Is it still 1.35 btc? Let me know I want to order tomorrow.

Hello,

Yes it is still available. It will be ship friday 14th.

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Re: [IN STOCK][WORLDWIDE] BATCH3 - 31X Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.35 - SHIPPING FEB 14TH
February 11, 2014, 08:26:16 PM
   
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Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on February 11, 2014, 08:05:39 PM
Quote from: Pcpoet on February 11, 2014, 08:03:28 PM
Are batch 3 still available? Is it still 1.35 btc? Let me know I want to order tomorrow.

Hello,

Yes it is still available. It will be ship friday 14th.

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Hi AvalonShenzhen,

Can you tell what dimensions this case is?? Thanks.
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Re: [IN STOCK][WORLDWIDE] BATCH3 - 31X Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.35 - SHIPPING FEB 14TH
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Hello Pcpoet,

Dimensions are on first post :

CASE SIZE: 47*35.5*16cm

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Re: [IN STOCK][WORLDWIDE] BATCH3 - 31X Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.35 - SHIPPING FEB 14TH
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February 15, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
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I just saw he deleted every single page on his thread so I have put in a request to hopefully restore everything. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424621.0)

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February 15, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
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Yes I ordered one, it was a mistake also.

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February 15, 2014, 03:41:18 PM
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The email returns undeliverable now too..Sad
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February 15, 2014, 03:57:10 PM
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The email returns undeliverable now too..Sad

Oh geez, it looked like he had done sales through here before too. I was about to order 5 of them. Sorry to those who lost BTC.
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February 15, 2014, 04:01:22 PM
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sent him 1.1 btc one hour ago....

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Im not sure why drof69 asked me to wait for his payment. I only can guess that someone tried to scam and claimed i will do escrow. Edit: Probably drof69 took my username on mistake. Though the following warning is still valid...

Guys... please ALWAYS use an escrow and NEVER send bitcoins to a bitcoin address you didnt get directly from the escrow. A quote can be faked by a scammer easily. So ALWAYS ask the escrow to send the address directly. An escrow will NEVER let a seller send an escrow address in a quote only. He will send the escrow address directly to the seller and the buyer. Only then all involved parties can be sure that everything runs correct.

Please ALWAYS contact me through bitcointalk pm before sending someone coins.
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February 15, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
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Guess I got my first newbie mistake out of the way ordering 4 Sad.  Live and learn I guess.
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February 15, 2014, 05:54:57 PM
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Holy Cow did I dodge a bullet.
 I almost ordered a few from him but for my dumb luck  I did not pull the trigger Shocked
Sorry to hear this, it sucks.
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February 15, 2014, 06:28:18 PM
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Lost  1.1 BTC to this guy =(
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February 15, 2014, 06:58:54 PM
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I didn't lose any money I was just donating to Nigerians , in Canada we have a much higher standard of living and I figured I would like to share it with a sub-Saharan . I wish I was wealthy enough to donate more than 1.1 !
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February 15, 2014, 07:07:13 PM
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Lost 2.2 BTC myself.   Sad
I had my suspicions, but he was so good about attention to detail...

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February 15, 2014, 07:25:09 PM
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Got f*cked too for 1.1 BTC.. Let's hope he stumbles and breaks his neck..
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February 15, 2014, 07:36:02 PM
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Curious why the BTC is still at the order addy.  https://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh

why was it not transferred to other addys? Huh
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February 15, 2014, 07:41:02 PM
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February 15, 2014, 09:24:51 PM
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I was taken for 5 units...

Here is a list of users on his batch 1-2 that are all linked to him:

NicolaeTT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=227257
AlfonsoD https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=226216
joehash https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=227233
Jicoli **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Bitdreamer **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Jeronico **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Andrew **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Krzyszt **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
MariusC **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Reuan **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Mathew **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
Sabine **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
William **NOT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM**
AndreyK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21373 NOT LINKED TO THE SCAM DUE TO THE CREATION DATE

We need to get the top 3 user names labeled as scammers in case he tried to do the same thing with them at a later date.

Helping stop scammers by giving negative trust thats visible.
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February 16, 2014, 12:56:28 AM
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again as ive posted in the other threads did the neg trust not make it obvious? or maybe all the posts by me, barwizi and notmm being deleted?

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