thepiratebay.org banned bitcoinmarkets account due to "bitcoin is ponzi scheme"

[Gabi]

Mh...the initial ban CAN be an accident (yeah sure...  the admin cat pressed the Ban key by mistake? Lol)

But all the following bans in the irc chat? Accident too? There is something weird in pirate bay...

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[mizerydearia]

received via pm

<*> i idle in this chat a lot, all day i see ppl coming here to get unbanned. your situation is a regular occurrence here

[phillipsjk]

So I didn't get kicked for asking about bitcoin, but saw this while idling:

<[4Q]>  [News] New worm turns PCs into Bitcoin miners http://activepolitic.com:82/Outside_News/10608.html
* rav0 (~rav0@2002:8a19:9505::8a19:9505) has joined #thepiratebay.org
<luke-jr> not really new.
<luke-jr> if you get infected, please get in touch with me
<luke-jr> we're trying to fight it, but we need a police report before we have the authority to act
<luke-jr> (actually, that particular virus *is* a newer strain, and I can't personally do anything about it-- but if you get infected by the iexplorer.exe one, ping me)

[pekv2]

Man oh man, thanks for the quotes because I was having some what a bad day today, those quo... Well here

<[WTC-SWE]> and for the record i'm not 12 years old-...tell that to the rest of the guys and you can quote me if you wish:)

<[WTC-SWE]> If you still think i'm 12 ...then good luck..
<mizerydea> I never made that claim and therefore am not the one who thinks that.
<[WTC-SWE]> My idea of one or more of those individuals being incompetent still stands.   <<--just for that comment i should of permanent ban you,BUT we're TPB and believe on free speech.So you see i'm not the one being "twisted" here.

made me almost spit my food out, laughing so hard.

[Nicolai Larsen]

Even though it was admitted that not bitcoin itself, but the torrent release for 'bitcoin markets 2011.10 sql data dump' was assumed to be a ponzi scheme (or at least that is their excuse for the drama the last couple hours), it should be known that had any of the individuals affiliated with the pirate bay in relation to banning the account and the continued kickbanning of myself, genjix and a few others in #thepiratebay.org who spoke anything of bitcoin (which as far as I know, text content is not ponzi scheme in any possible way) actually glanced at the content or the related forum thread linked in the description, they would have immediately realized that there was nothing to do with 'ponzi scheme.'

I guess it's easy to confuse sql, data or dump with "ponzi scheme"

My idea of one or more of those individuals being incompetent still stands.

Laterly:

<[WTC-SWE]> regarding similar sites/spam/adverts.
<[WTC-SWE]> I'm not an egoist and never been.If i'm wrong i make sure to fix the problem/issue and apologize.
<[WTC-SWE]> mizerydea
<mizerydea> hi
<[WTC-SWE]> Just a headsup...
<[WTC-SWE]> I just read the comment of yours.
<[WTC-SWE]> So listen what i have to say carefully
<mizerydea> sure
<[WTC-SWE]> The whole doesn't circulate around bitcoins ok!
<mizerydea> The whole?
<[WTC-SWE]> Lately the past 3-5 days we had major issues with spammers all over Efnet
<[WTC-SWE]> TPB was one the sites  that was targeted
<[WTC-SWE]> when you joined the second time(or your friend)
<[WTC-SWE]> i thought it was a troll messing around.
<[WTC-SWE]> So it wasn't a personal vendetta against you nor against bitcoins.
<[WTC-SWE]> mizerydea : You can quote me as much you want, but the truth is i don't give a rats ass about bitcoins or whatever.I simply explained to you earlier what happened and if you guys think you're smarter,then by all means....
<[WTC-SWE]> I lifted the ban as expected and cleared the hash for you-
<mizerydea> [WTC-SWE], I understand.  I'm just providing full disclosure of events.
<[WTC-SWE]> If you still think i'm 12 ...then good luck..
<mizerydea> I never made that claim and therefore am not the one who thinks that.
<[WTC-SWE]> My idea of one or more of those individuals being incompetent still stands.   <<--just for that comment i should of permanent ban you,BUT we're TPB and believe on free speech.So you see i'm not the one being "twisted" here.    
<[WTC-SWE]> That is clearly your comment!!
<EG> I love it,someone disagrees with what shit product you peddle so they must be incompetent
<mizerydea> [WTC-SWE], Yes.  It is referring to the initial recognition of the torrent (or the contents to be downloaded affiliated with the torrent file) being evaluated as a ponzi scheme (which I had established understanding of with your initial suggestive comments shortly after I joined to inquire about my account being banned).  I am not sure what led to the evaluation of 'ponzi scheme' by the particular data affiliated with the torrent
<mizerydea> , and I also am not certain or aware of who is involved in the banning of the account.  Therefore my claim of incompetency is not directed at anyone in particular, but is generally aimed at whoever was responsible for such evaluations and related response triggered upon 'ponzi scheme' evaluation (again, the 'ponzi scheme' claim is derived from your initial suggestive comment)
<suzitasti> O.O
<[WTC-SWE]> As i said earlier..The circumstances were thoose that you simply got banned though of similar sites.I've also explained the situation we had recently in here.You got kicked,send another guy in here ..etc...the whole process reminds of spam/troll activity, but you can't be aware of that since you'd proabably never been an op.Even if so ,barely the same stuff to deal with.If i knew you
<mizerydea> oops
<[WTC-SWE]> whereabouts and the quotes of yours an wouldn't accept it.
<mizerydea> K`Tetch's initial claim
<[WTC-SWE]> If you still think we're incompetent then i feel sorry for you
<[WTC-SWE]> Besides you qoute that damn thing even after i apologized to you on behalf of me/TPB
<mizerydea> [WTC-SWE], I'm certain you're fairly intelligent in various aspects, especially technical/technological aspects, however, for this particular issue, I am still a bit skeptical about the level of effort or thought put into making sure the account was banned appropriately instead of mistakenly.
<[WTC-SWE]> That shows low moral and definetely not worthy to arguee with
<[WTC-SWE]> now do me a favor
<[WTC-SWE]> GET OUT OF THIS CHANNEL
* You have left channel #thepiratebay.org (Leaving)

He's such an intelligent guy!

[druid]

Who on earth gives a f**k what some random TPB admin thinks???
Who at all uses the pirate bay any more??
Alternatives are just much better, and this example maybe explains why they lost the race...

[P4man]

Who at all uses the pirate bay any more??
Alternatives are just much better, and this example maybe explains why they lost the race...

I do. What alternatives am I missing?

[Litt]

Yet another admin internet powertripping while exposing himself to be an absolute idiot.

[T.E.L.L.T.H.E.T.R.U.T.H]

It' wasn't our attention to misscredit or keep bitcoin out of TPB.There're plenty of stuff uploaded and none have been deleted nor banned(accounts).The reason for the IRC ban and lately a second,was because of massive spambots/people that kept flooding all over Efnet the last 3-5 days.We simply thought they were "trolling"
Also the torrent got flagged as spam/adverts and therefore the ban.We deal with millions of users on daily basis and misstakes happens all time.The thing is that i lifted the ban and cleared the hash.I even apologized to the guy ->> [ mizerydearia ]. He replied/quoted back with this -->>  ( My idea of one or more of those individuals being incompetent still stands.) even after i explained the situation for him.

I honestly got disappointed and pissed off after i read it,therefore my request telling him to leave the channel.Is it so damn hard for people to understand that their situation ain't unique ? and that there're millions of torrents/spammer/trolls/fakers to deal with?

The only guy that understood the whole situation and acted reasonable was ->> [ genjix ] on his second post. ( Well that's nice to know that it was a misunderstanding. These things usually are and it can be hard being a mod. I guess bitcoinmarkets did look commercial at first glance, especially if you're busy.) [ genjix ] was the second in line to join IRC and unfortunetely he got backfired from me in the heat.
Really sorry about that [ genjix ]

The where none more after that, as some loves to exaggerate on the thread mentioned above.You guys have a nice community/forum in here,but it's sad to see certain members jumping on hasty conclussions without knowing the facts.

Also when i mentioned the "permanent ban" it was because of the copypaste and altered truth.I definetely wouldn't agree on it if i knew how the situation would escalate.We're not bad guys,the opposite i should say.We try to help people 24/7  5.089.311 registered at this stage and issues are to be solved.

If i were an egoist i would never try to explain nor make an account in here to end this.I'd probably hear a lot more "laughs" or arrogant comments,but at least i took the first step(s) to end this crappy situation.How you guys procide,it's up to you.I am far to old for grudges or "internet" issues".


Take care and have a nice day/evening.


Kindly regards
WTC-SWE

[apetersson]

this sounds reasonable. as a high-profile trolling playground like TPB sometimes extreme measures must be taken.

thanks for providing an explanation and keep up the good work in providing TPB.

btw - i'm quite sure the number of bitcoin signatures in releases will increase exponentially in the future

[mizerydearia]

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(read post above)

Thanks for resolving the issue and thanks for clarifying your assessment of the situation.  My apologies for the unnecessary inconvenience/grief caused by me.

[TiagoTiago]

Where did the ponzi accusation come from though?

[mizerydearia]

Where did the ponzi accusation come from though?

First post

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<Agricola> yeah banned
<mizerydea> why?
<K`Tetch> ponzi scheme
<mizerydea> uhh, what?
<[WTC-SWE]> So you honestly thought i left you unabnned with you damn pyramid games
* [WTC-SWE] sets ban on *!*@cpe-65-30-35-48.wi.res.rr.com
* You have been kicked from #thepiratebay.org by Jallers (Banned)
...

[TiagoTiago]

No, i mean, if they thought it was just spam/advertising, how did they come to the conclusion it was specificly a ponzi scheme?

[Fjordbit]

No, i mean, if they thought it was just spam/advertising, how did they come to the conclusion it was specificly a ponzi scheme?

Exactly. To me, it appears the whole efnet thing is just a cover for an earlier fuck-up probably generated by someone's ego being too large. Saying that him coming in the channel is like trolling is ridiculous: how else is he supposed to get it resolved? The original problem is made worse by thin stories put on top of an act of stupidity. If WTC-SWE just said "it was a screw up, I'm sorry. You're unbanned" then that would be an apology. But an apology with a lump of lies and a side helping of an appeal to guilt (oh woe be my op problems, you don't even know). It's a bunch of shit.

And I don't care what I say because I don't need to worry about being banned. I don't use that crap.

[wareen]

It' wasn't our attention to misscredit or keep bitcoin out of TPB.

Thanks for taking the time to come here and resolve this issue! Nice to see such things being settled peacefully and not resulting in a flamewar for a change

Take care and have a nice day/evening.

+1

[BitcoinPorn]

Kindly regards
WTC-SWE

Respect.  The guy took a sec out of his day to pop open another tab in his browser to just let us know it was a mishap, definitely didn't have to do that, and quite shocking to see around these parts lol

[JohnDoe]

You guys have a nice community/forum in here,but it's sad to see certain members jumping on hasty conclussions without knowing the facts.

So you jump on hasty conclusions without knowing the facts and then you try to lecture us on jumping on hasty conclusions without knowing the facts?

[paraipan]

You guys have a nice community/forum in here,but it's sad to see certain members jumping on hasty conclussions without knowing the facts.

So you jump on hasty conclusions without knowing the facts and then you try to lecture us on jumping on hasty conclusions without knowing the facts?

meh, bury the hatchet man

[TiagoTiago]

Kindly regards
WTC-SWE

Respect.  The guy took a sec out of his day to pop open another tab in his browser to just let us know it was a mishap, definitely didn't have to do that, and quite shocking to see around these parts lol

+1


Though i'm still curious about the details of the mishap.