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July 15, 2018, 05:06:11 PM
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И тaк: 
mdayonliner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468 - oчeнь мнoгим извecтный и мepзкий тип. oн ищeт тex, ктo якoбы, нecпpaвeдливo зapaбaтывaeт ceбe мepиты, cooтвeтcтвeннo oн иx зa этo и пoлyчaeт!

I heard you. This is the translation I get.


Although I doubt that chrome did the right translation. Anyway, if you are up-to justifying someone then your standpoint should be neutral. You can not pick a side.

Mнoгoyвaжaeмыe мoдepaтopы, я Bac yвaжaю и дaжe бывaeт зacтyпaюcь зa Bac нa aнлoвeткax нaпpимep пepeд тaкими пepcoнaжaми кaк mdayonliner, кoтopый кaпaeт нa pyccкиx мoдepoв. (xandry знaeт o чeм я). И зa cвoиx мoдepaтopoв я бyдy жoпy pвaть, тaк кaк Bы y нac caмыe лyчшиe!


I am having a feeling that you are trying to please the mods. What do you get when you give them pleasure?

One of my post got deleted on the Russian local board. On the topic the OP had me in his/her conversation so, I needed to response.  Since I do not speak Russian, my reply was in English. My response was not off-topic which leads me to ask one question:

The response was deleted because it was in English?

If the answer is "Yes" then this leads another question:

How would someone response when they do not know the local language?

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July 15, 2018, 05:57:18 PM
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И тaк:  
mdayonliner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468 - oчeнь мнoгим извecтный и мepзкий тип. oн ищeт тex, ктo якoбы, нecпpaвeдливo зapaбaтывaeт ceбe мepиты, cooтвeтcтвeннo oн иx зa этo и пoлyчaeт!

I heard you. This is the translation I get.


Although I doubt that chrome did the right translation. Anyway, if you are up-to justifying someone then your standpoint should be neutral. You can not pick a side.

Mнoгoyвaжaeмыe мoдepaтopы, я Bac yвaжaю и дaжe бывaeт зacтyпaюcь зa Bac нa aнлoвeткax нaпpимep пepeд тaкими пepcoнaжaми кaк mdayonliner, кoтopый кaпaeт нa pyccкиx мoдepoв. (xandry знaeт o чeм я). И зa cвoиx мoдepaтopoв я бyдy жoпy pвaть, тaк кaк Bы y нac caмыe лyчшиe!


I am having a feeling that you are trying to please the mods. What do you get when you give them pleasure?

One of my post got deleted on the Russian local board. On the topic the OP had me in his/her conversation so, I needed to response.  Since I do not speak Russian, my reply was in English. My response was not off-topic which leads me to ask one question:

The response was deleted because it was in English?

If the answer is "Yes" then this leads another question:

How would someone response when they do not know the local language?

Haven't you heard of translators? But that's silly, here all or almost all don't know many languages, but communicate. Fortunately in the modern world there is the Internet and Internet translators.
Go to Google, type the translator and write in your native language, select the language you want to translate and it's done. I don't understand what the problem is not to answer in your abuser's language.
Yes, the translation is sometimes clumsy but that's enough.

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One of my post got deleted on the Russian local board. On the topic the OP had me in his/her conversation so, I needed to response. 

No, you didn't. You wanted perhaps. Didn't need to.

Since I do not speak Russian, my reply was in English. My response was not off-topic which leads me to ask one question:

The response was deleted because it was in English?

If the answer is "Yes" then this leads another question:

How would someone response when they do not know the local language?

Simple - don't.

Haven't you heard of translators? But that's silly, here all or almost all don't know many languages, but communicate. Fortunately in the modern world there is the Internet and Internet translators.
Go to Google, type the translator and write in your native language, select the language you want to translate and it's done. I don't understand what the problem is not to answer in your abuser's language.
Yes, the translation is sometimes clumsy but that's enough.

No, that's not enough. Machine-translated garbage is part of this spam cancer that is crippling this forum. Learn the language if you want to post in it.

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July 15, 2018, 06:20:24 PM
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Haven't you heard of translators? But that's silly, here all or almost all don't know many languages, but communicate. Fortunately in the modern world there is the Internet and Internet translators.
Go to Google, type the translator and write in your native language, select the language you want to translate and it's done. I don't understand what the problem is not to answer in your abuser's language.
Yes, the translation is sometimes clumsy but that's enough.
I don't know if translation tools are an appropriate solution for this. In the past, to understand comments in the russian section I used a translation tool and in my own language this makes absolutely no sense sometimes. I would have chosen the same solution mday mentioned in OP, it should be possible for everyone to understand english comments. I don't know why it was deleted and I think if it was deleted because it was in english, this wasn't the right decision of the person who deleted it. Obviously mday wouldn't have responded if the russian OP hadn't mentioned his name, so I see no reason for deleting his comment in english...
In addition the misunderstandings caused by translation tools can lead to more problems, especially if the discussed topic is about an accusation...

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July 15, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
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If we ask users to comment in English in any English board, (otherwise it get deleted) it seems logical and normal to ask users to post in the same language of the section they are on. It's so logical that your topic is not needed to ask. If you don't talk Russian then don't post.

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July 15, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
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Your reply was in no way on topic of that thread. It was also not responding to what was said about you.

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July 15, 2018, 06:45:39 PM
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On the topic the OP had me in his/her conversation
Why do you check, and why do you care?

To answer your question: it depends Tongue
I've typed in English on an Italian board, when it was a subject cared for. And I've responded in a Russian thread when someone was translating one of my threads. I deleted this post when it was handled.
In general: just don't do it. If it's only because they talk about you: let them.

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July 15, 2018, 06:48:59 PM
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  Since I do not speak Russian, my reply was in English. My response was not off-topic which leads me to ask one question:

The response was deleted because it was in English?
Yes of course and it's not allowed according to the official unofficial forum rules.


9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

But sometimes it also has some exceptions.( But I doubted this wasn't in your case)

26. Local thread rules, if stated properly when the thread was started, specific enough and don't conflict with the forum rules, have to be followed.[e]

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How would someone response when they do not know the local language?
I think we don't want to response all the accusations (regardless of it's true or false) made on local boards. If you really want to share your side of story, the better thing is to learn that language and give some punches with their own.

But my openion is if we do the right things why even bother to giving explanations to others that you are doing the right things. Just do the right things(I truly believed you do) and don't try to prove it.

Translated answers also doesn't allowed to post Wink

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
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July 15, 2018, 07:01:50 PM
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Might be a translator that know both Russian and English can fill up this gap.
But I think conversation might be in PM or outside the forum.  I  think posting on the others behalf will  not  be allowed in this forum and you do not want to post Russian when you do not know Russian.


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