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October 06, 2011, 06:14:57 AM |
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So just thinking out in my head here in light of the bitcoin7.com scam ( which your's truly called it a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17043.0;all ) where and how do these scams come about ? I'm starting to see a pattern here between the polish exchange , mybitcoin and the other's who seem to have been "scammed" by some bad people . My theory: Build a front-facing website that actually looks like a "business" , then cry-foul that russians came and took your business wallet along with all the BTC of your customers, sell the company to anyone who wants it then walk-away with all the coins. Rinse & Repeat. I mean all these sites come up with the same Bullshit could their be collusion involved with all these? Should we put Phinnaeus Gage on the case? Thoughts?
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they were a functional exchange at one time but then recently reported "new management": http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45307.msg543984#msg543984good thing bitcoin is not truly an anonymous currency and whomever has the coins are probably shaking with fear now when thinking about spending them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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October 06, 2011, 07:09:16 AM |
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I'm too tired right now, but can someone make a thread with all the exchanges, including upcoming ones, and reasons why or why we should not trust them. Just a good first post with all the exchanges and the ratings from the thread aggregated.
Good call on Bitcoin7, from that thread, not sure why anyone would use them
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We're the only long running exchange that hasn't been compromised (formerly Britcoin) and are based in London with a development team. Our group (Bitcoin Consultancy) is also actively involved in developing other areas of bitcoin, operates other services and is working with merchants. And we charge no fees. Our about us: https://intersango.com/about-us.phpSecurity: https://intersango.com/security.phpOur development's group website: http://bitcoinconsultancy.com/We were the ones just at SWIFT's (the messaging network used for international bank transfers) SIBOS conference on the future of banking discussing how bitcoin could be used to improve international transfers. So we're pretty much heavily invested in bitcoin for the long term. The purpose of our group is to hire people to work full-time on furthering bitcoin. We release many of our project's source code for the community. We're also helping organise the European Bitcoin Conference. If you appreciate our work, and wish for bitcoin to grow, then use our exchange. In return it allows us to grow our development team to push forwards and create more community projects we can contribute. It's my hope to turn this into a talent base to allow the brightest minds to prosper and develop cool technology- like Google or Apple but for specifically for bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flibbitcoin.org%2Fintersango.png&t=665&c=l999AReuntaDyg)
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October 06, 2011, 08:38:23 AM |
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We're the only long running exchange that hasn't been compromised (formerly Britcoin), are based in London with a development team. Our group (Bitcoin Consultancy) is also actively involved in developing other areas of bitcoin, operates other services and is working with merchants. Our about us: https://intersango.com/about-us.phpOur development's group website: http://bitcoinconsultancy.com/We were the ones just at SWIFT's (the messaging network used for international bank transfers) SIBOS conference on the future of banking discussing how bitcoin could be used to improve international transfers. So we're pretty much heavily invested in bitcoin for the long term. The purpose of our group is to hire people to work full-time on furthering bitcoin. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flibbitcoin.org%2Fintersango.png&t=665&c=l999AReuntaDyg) britcoin/intersango is the only exchange i trust and will ever use...thumbs up for the excellent service so far ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 06, 2011, 09:36:49 AM |
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Seems like the perfect crime: steal something that's valuable, easily transportable and easily traded for money. If the victims go complaining to police in their country nothing can be done. "Lol wat? Bitcoins?" would be the police response, followed by the difficulty in chasing someone down from the other side of the planet.
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October 06, 2011, 10:21:08 AM |
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They might say "Lol, what? Bitcoins?" but (correct me if I'm wrong) breaking into someone's computer or server is considered a "serious" crime in a lot of places. On the other hand, I'm not entirely sure it would be a crime at all if the exchange openly decided they wanted to walk away with everyone's bitcoins and not give anything back. Sure, they're a representation of a currency to the ones who know about it, but there's nothing in law that even remotely mentions stealing someone's bitcoins is illegal anywhere in the world. Maybe if the bitcoin client had some sort of ToS...
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Help Bitcoins by buying clothes, technology, books, etc. through people/stores that accept BTC. This will increase overall value of BTC as well as mitigate unnecessary bank transaction fees.
My address - 1EM9HGg1SEa5Bux1rVEPxGqGSfNTTc9EkC
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October 06, 2011, 12:58:59 PM |
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So just thinking out in my head here in light of the bitcoin7.com scam ( which your's truly called it a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17043.0;all ) where and how do these scams come about ? I'm starting to see a pattern here between the polish exchange , mybitcoin and the other's who seem to have been "scammed" by some bad people . My theory: Build a front-facing website that actually looks like a "business" , then cry-foul that russians came and took your business wallet along with all the BTC of your customers, sell the company to anyone who wants it then walk-away with all the coins. Rinse & Repeat. I mean all these sites come up with the same Bullshit could their be collusion involved with all these? Should we put Phinnaeus Gage on the case? Thoughts? Just on a seperate remark: bitomat.pl was no scam as far as I'm concerned. First of all, every single BTC was refunded, all the money was handed over as well. Except from the owner of Bitomat, who lost a lot of time and nevers, nobody else lost anything!!! From all the communication I had witht he owner I'm pretty sure that what he described actually happened the way he described it. On Bitcoin7: They have stopped their customer service like 2 month ago, API was broken since 1 1/2 month and not repaired... I don't think it was actual scam - Most likely they just didn't care about the website any more and left it lying around, ready to be hacked. Mybitcoin.com is the only thinkg that looks like real scam to me. As a piece of advice: don't put money on exchanges where you don't know the real identity of the owners and trust them with the money.
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October 06, 2011, 01:08:59 PM |
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As a piece of advice: don't put money on exchanges where you don't know the real identity of the owners and trust them with the money.
At this point, if the exchanges or any site that has any significant amount of Bitcoin in it, isn't shouting the praises of their awesome security team or staff, you might be a redneck. Or I mean, you might have a site you shouldn't dump significant coin in.
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October 06, 2011, 01:16:58 PM |
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So just thinking out in my head here in light of the bitcoin7.com scam ( which your's truly called it a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17043.0;all ) where and how do these scams come about ? I'm starting to see a pattern here between the polish exchange , mybitcoin and the other's who seem to have been "scammed" by some bad people . My theory: Build a front-facing website that actually looks like a "business" , then cry-foul that russians came and took your business wallet along with all the BTC of your customers, sell the company to anyone who wants it then walk-away with all the coins. Rinse & Repeat. I mean all these sites come up with the same Bullshit could their be collusion involved with all these? Should we put Phinnaeus Gage on the case? Thoughts? Inspector Gage at your service: Once the whipper-snapper is nabbed, a giant pineapple awaits their poop hole:![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_kIVJ2xIgCoQ%2FSmBdEi9EDwI%2FAAAAAAAAA_E%2Fun-5HEUN-hc%2Fs400%2FBigPineapple.jpg&t=665&c=LJko3wV4-yPmxQ)
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October 06, 2011, 04:46:19 PM |
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We're the only long running exchange that hasn't been compromised (formerly Britcoin) and are based in London with a development team. Our group (Bitcoin Consultancy) is also actively involved in developing other areas of bitcoin, operates other services and is working with merchants. And we charge no fees. Our about us: https://intersango.com/about-us.phpSecurity: https://intersango.com/security.phpOur development's group website: http://bitcoinconsultancy.com/We were the ones just at SWIFT's (the messaging network used for international bank transfers) SIBOS conference on the future of banking discussing how bitcoin could be used to improve international transfers. So we're pretty much heavily invested in bitcoin for the long term. The purpose of our group is to hire people to work full-time on furthering bitcoin. We release many of our project's source code for the community. We're also helping organise the European Bitcoin Conference. If you appreciate our work, and wish for bitcoin to grow, then use our exchange. In return it allows us to grow our development team to push forwards and create more community projects we can contribute. It's my hope to turn this into a talent base to allow the brightest minds to prosper and develop cool technology- like Google or Apple but for specifically for bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flibbitcoin.org%2Fintersango.png&t=665&c=l999AReuntaDyg) Actually I have used you also and so far you are reliable. I've used Mt. Gox , CampBx and Intersango and all are great. I'm just saying some of this fly by night ventures seem to work fine and then disappear once they get everyone comfortable. As bitcoinporn stated might be wise to create a thread dedicated to feedback of exchanges and other services.
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October 09, 2011, 03:55:08 AM |
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Can't...tell...if..serious... It is hard to tell ?? hmm..
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October 09, 2011, 03:55:44 AM |
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Can't...tell...if..serious... LOL.. True. Can't tell. If. Serious. But. Alright. Luckily. Good luck!
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October 09, 2011, 04:01:03 AM |
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Can't...tell...if..serious... LOL.. True. Can't tell. If. Serious. But. Alright. Luckily. Good luck! I know right!
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October 09, 2011, 07:07:22 AM |
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Why is it when anyone mentions "scam" in a subject line there ends up being an infomercial a couple of posts down the thread.
Scammers handbook, take advantage of those in the most need. People making threads about a scam? Must mean that a lot of people are being scammed and need a new product/service to replicate the scamming service. Rinse, repeat, until we are all back to using just Mt Gox for the final end all scam to Bitcoin when we are had again.
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Why is it when anyone mentions "scam" in a subject line there ends up being an infomercial a couple of posts down the thread.
Scammers handbook, take advantage of those in the most need. People making threads about a scam? Must mean that a lot of people are being scammed and need a new product/service to replicate the scamming service. Rinse, repeat, until we are all back to using just Mt Gox for the final end all scam to Bitcoin when we are had again. I should have listened to you back then. You had Mt Gox pegged three years ago. Long before anyone else thought it was just a scam.
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August 29, 2014, 02:35:29 PM |
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The scamming business is increasing but it existed since the very first years of bitcoin life, I have been scammed one time untill now and I hope that it will be enough for life.
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The scamming business is increasing but it existed since the very first years of bitcoin life, I have been scammed one time untill now and I hope that it will be enough for life.
You're not really a fully-fledged member of the bitcoin community unless you've been scammed at least once. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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August 29, 2014, 03:10:54 PM |
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So just thinking out in my head here in light of the bitcoin7.com scam ( which your's truly called it a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17043.0;all ) where and how do these scams come about ? I'm starting to see a pattern here between the polish exchange , mybitcoin and the other's who seem to have been "scammed" by some bad people . My theory: Build a front-facing website that actually looks like a "business" , then cry-foul that russians came and took your business wallet along with all the BTC of your customers, sell the company to anyone who wants it then walk-away with all the coins. Rinse & Repeat. I mean all these sites come up with the same Bullshit could their be collusion involved with all these? Should we put Phinnaeus Gage on the case? Thoughts? this is also called the mtgox scam You're not really a fully-fledged member of the bitcoin community unless you've been scammed at least once. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) dang it.. im still not a member
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I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER. Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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August 29, 2014, 03:20:20 PM |
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this is also called the mtgox scam
Correct ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You're not really a fully-fledged member of the bitcoin community unless you've been scammed at least once. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) dang it.. im still not a member
I suppose we should change that yes? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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