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"The nature of Bitcoin is such that once version 0.1 was released, the
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Stephen Gornick
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October 06, 2011, 08:17:53 PM |
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This is one of those things ... in hindsight, so obvious that it is needed. And a relatively easy thing to do too.
Thank you much for taking the time to do this!
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October 06, 2011, 08:28:16 PM
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My apologies. I was k-lined (too many times) in response to this (pre-registering the channels in anticipation of passing them onto someone else for each country for the purpose of not losing operators in channels where others join, I forget to op them and then 10+ people are in a channel and nobody is op). =/ See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47079 |
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October 07, 2011, 07:15:31 AM
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My method of finding others to manually invite to country-specific channels involves the following: I have three network connections to freenode. One is for all bitcoin-related channels only (log files freenode-bitcoin-#*) Another is for all altcoin-related channels (and some additional bitcoin-related channels due to 120 chan limit (log files freenode-altcoin-#*) Another is for all foreign bitcoin-related channels only (log files freenode-foreign-#*) tail -f ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/freenode-bitcoin-#* ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/freenode-altcoin-#* ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/freenode-foreign-#*|grep --color=always "\.[a-z][a-z][a-z]\?)"|grep -v --color=always "\.\(com\|edu\|net\|org\))" I switched to znc: (list of nicks that I already contacted included so as to not annoy them again) tail -f ~/.znc/users/freenode_altcoin/moddata/log/#* ~/.znc/users/freenode_bitcoin/moddata/log/#* ~/.znc/users/freenode_foreign/moddata/log/#* ~/.znc/users/freenode_foreigner/moddata/log/#* ~/.znc/users/freenode_global/moddata/log/#*|grep --color=always -e "\*\*\* Joins: .* (.*\.[a-z][a-z][a-z]\?)"|grep -v --color=always -e "\.\(biz\|com\|edu\|net\|org\))" -e "\(.*dearia \|Aklirg \|Alareiks \|ali1234 \|Anduck \|andyroo \|App3l_ \|arcane_ \|archevety \|ArmittK \|AStove \|ASY \|Atomim \|baz \|BCBot \|bdmk \|bencoder_\? \|Bitinterested \|blaeks \|Blitzboom \|bobke \|brendio_\? \|Bricklayer \|brilthor \|brooss_\?_\? \|bst-- \|BTC-Lama \|btcm[0-9] \|bv-falcon_\? \|ByteCoin \|caish5 \|cdecker \|Ceaser86 \|ChAtMaN \|chem|st \|Cherothald \|ChrisHC \|c_k \|Clipse \|Clonedead \|cmurrayis \|codler \|Cokein \|comboy \|cosby2 \|cosurgi \|crazy_imp \|CryptoX \|cuqa \|cyphunk1\? \|__doc__ \|danbri \|dapal_ \|darkshine \|DaveH \|Dead_Pirate \|deskro \|djoot \|DontMindMe \|DustySnow \|dvide \|dx \|Dyaheon \|Dynamix_\? \|el_bb \|erle- \|eryngi \|explodent \|faiob \|fho \|fimp_\? \|flyman_\? \|Forconin \|g2x3k \|genjix[^ ]* \|GoMaD \|Graet_\? \|hamitron \|Havamal \|iddo_\? \|InstaGx \|IO- \|iPwnd_\? \|izz3k \|jabawok \|Jackneill \|jarpiain \|Jenda122 \|jine \|joepie91 \|Jorgeminator \|joxu \|jscinoz \|Kacheltje \|Kallimeo \|kanoi \|kaptah \|Ken\` \|kinlo \|Kolky \|kubicek_\? \|kW_\? \|LagMo \|Lambdacore \|larsivi \|lasdj \|LazyDaisy \|linuxthefish_ \|lollo64it \|loltu \|Lopuz \|Ludak32 \|lyon667.* \|magnetron \|marf_away \|MasterSpooge \|Maxell \|MaxSan1\? \|MC-Eeepc \|michal\[t\] \|micols \|mindphlux \|Misiur1\? \|mmoya \|mnass_\? \|mnc \|molecular \|MoonShad0w\`\? \|Moredread \|mperth \|MrDDisBack \|MrTiggr \|msb8r \|mtrlt_\? \|N30ph4r1s \|nachti \|Nachtwind \|Necrathex \|necro__\? \|NeonLicht \|nick_santa_\? \|nodemaster \|nookieman \|nr9 \|NympH \|oc80z\|osama_ \|paci_\? \|personaluse \|phedny \|phlax \|picchio \|pierreghz \|player3 \|Plnt \|poaroa \|polipie \|povik \|pqs \|prettyrage \|r_o_o_s \|r2k_\?_\? \|_Raptor_ \|rapeghost \|rdponticelli_\? \|Red_Wolf_[12] \|rikurr \|rkos- \|RobinPKR \|[rR]ontus-\? \|Runnigan \|ruza_\? \|rzk \|SAC \|sacarlson \|Sativacyborg \|sbc \|sceptic_ohforf2\? \|scinfo \|SeriousWorm \|shadders \|skarloey \|skelet \|slothbag \|slush1 \|Solid_OhForf2\? \|somuchwin \|soptik \|speeder \|spq \|[sS]teffer_\? \|stellan0r \|sturles \|Sure_Not \|\[t\]michal \|TandyUK \|Thaohh \|Thermi \|thoro \|Thracky \|tioan \|tomat \|topace_\? \|topi\` \|Tracker- \|trasp \|tri3p \|trippp \|tuopasdg \|tuoppi \|tuoppp_ \|u5oyYpt7orfctXq \|uberlord \|ultra_ \|uNuN\^ \|uzyn \|Vib3_\? \|waynerr_\?_\? \|Wayno \|wboy1 \|weeb0_away \|We[l|]vis \|WindPower \|wolfspraul \|wumpus \|x4nti \|XertroV \|xhr22i \|xorAxAx \|xzion \|ymre \|yossarian_1\? \|Zarutian \|zby_home_\? \|zdcobran \|zek \|zemanel \|znh \|zwags \|zzz\?uper \)" |
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kano
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October 07, 2011, 08:15:19 AM |
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Australia is not spelt "Argentina" ...
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October 07, 2011, 08:54:01 AM |
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Thank you for doing this for the community.
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gsan
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October 07, 2011, 09:04:50 AM
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Countries in which my logs show absolutely no connections from any users in any servers/networks:
Barbados (bb)
Botswana (bw)
Democratic Republic of the Congo (cd)
Algeria (dz)
Egypt (eg)
Ethiopa (et)
Gambia (gm)
Honduras (hn)
Haiti (ht)
Iraq (iq)
Jamaica (jm)
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (kp)
Sri Lanka (lk)
Liberia (lr)
Myanmar (mm)
Malta (mt)
Malawi (mw)
Nigeria (ng)
Oman (om)
Panama (pa)
Qatar (qa)
Rwanda (rw)
Saudi Arabia (sa)
Sudan (sd)
Syrian Arab Republic (sy)
Swaziland (sz)
Tunisia (tn)
I'm almost permanently connected from one of those countries (though with v0.4.0 my number of connections went from ~100 to ~10). So it might be a good idea to add them as well. Who knows, the additional advertisement might also help.  |
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October 07, 2011, 12:02:01 PM |
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Seems like a very centralized way of doing things and IMO looks very much like domain-squatting. It would be better to let these communities grow organically rather than having one person have control over all of them, which is most likely why the Bitcoin devs haven't claimed #bitcoin* through Freenode's group registration process. If you get run over by a bus or lose interest in Bitcoin tomorrow then all of these channels will be unusable. Nice work  |
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October 07, 2011, 12:13:14 PM |
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Seems like a very centralized way of doing things and IMO looks very much like domain-squatting. It would be better to let these communities grow organically rather than having one person have control over all of them, which is most likely why the Bitcoin devs haven't claimed #bitcoin* through Freenode's group registration process. If you get run over by a bus or lose interest in Bitcoin tomorrow then all of these channels will be unusable. Nice work Actually, that's not the case. Jeff Garzik owns bitcoin namespace on freenode and can recover channels as necessary. If he is run over by bus, then all of #bitcoin-* may be at a risk? ._. Also, my method is to prepare the channels in anticipation for others to take over as communities form. This should take only a few days actually, and is already progressing rather nicely. Also, since I rarely go outside and instead sit at my computers 24/7, the chances of getting hit by a bus are rather slim. Even if a bus were to crash into the home I am currently residing in, I am not in a room that would be impacted and cause death or injury. A bus would not be able to reach me. Otherwise, do you mean pc bus? Also, I noticed the following channels seem to have been abandoned or are opless and I have contacted jgarzik to recover them: #bitcoin-at #bitcoin-bg #bitcoin-br #bitcoin-es #bitcoin-eu #bitcoin-in #bitcoin-no #bitcoin-otc-sv #bitcoin-ru |
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mizerydearia (OP)
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October 07, 2011, 12:20:31 PM |
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Countries in which my logs show absolutely no connections from any users in any servers/networks:
Barbados (bb)
Botswana (bw)
Democratic Republic of the Congo (cd)
Algeria (dz)
Egypt (eg)
Ethiopa (et)
Gambia (gm)
Honduras (hn)
Haiti (ht)
Iraq (iq)
Jamaica (jm)
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (kp)
Sri Lanka (lk)
Liberia (lr)
Myanmar (mm)
Malta (mt)
Malawi (mw)
Nigeria (ng)
Oman (om)
Panama (pa)
Qatar (qa)
Rwanda (rw)
Saudi Arabia (sa)
Sudan (sd)
Syrian Arab Republic (sy)
Swaziland (sz)
Tunisia (tn)
I'm almost permanently connected from one of those countries (though with v0.4.0 my number of connections went from ~100 to ~10). So it might be a good idea to add them as well. Who knows, the additional advertisement might also help. See updated list in first post. If anyone lives in any of these countries, feel free to create the channel and register it and let me know and I'll add it to original post. |
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October 07, 2011, 04:35:23 PM |
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#bitcoin-ar Bitcoin in Argentina
#bitcoin-aus Bitcoin in Argentina
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October 09, 2011, 03:06:22 AM
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So you've decided the way to promote a global currency, possibly the first with true potential to break through traditional economic/ethnic divisions, is to divide everyone in little separate groups based on.. these same borders (mostly)? And you're going to do this using a medium (IRC) which is also global and communal by design, until will apply your scheme to it, then it becomes segmented and divided and just plain silly.
This will fail.
Time to step back and rethink. A project in country X will have many ideas and experiences useful to a project in country Y. Creating divisions along political borders just because... politic borders exist i guess? is not going to help bitcoin.
that'll be $0.02
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BitcoinPorn
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October 09, 2011, 03:24:45 AM |
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So you've decided the way to promote a global currency, possibly the first with true potential to break through traditional economic/ethnic divisions, is to divide everyone in little separate groups based on.. these same borders (mostly)? And you're going to do this using a medium (IRC) which is also global and communal by design, until will apply your scheme to it, then it becomes segmented and divided and just plain silly.
This will fail.
Time to step back and rethink. A project in country X will have many ideas and experiences useful to a project in country Y. Creating divisions along political borders just because... politic borders exist i guess? is not going to help bitcoin.
that'll be $0.02
Calm down their buddy, one world changing revolution at a time. First we change the money, then we can eliminate those invisible lines that divide us all. IRC is an established way for people to communicate instantly, regions help organize language barriers, I'm not seeing this as negatively as you at all. |
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lodcrappo
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October 09, 2011, 03:30:37 AM |
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So you've decided the way to promote a global currency, possibly the first with true potential to break through traditional economic/ethnic divisions, is to divide everyone in little separate groups based on.. these same borders (mostly)? And you're going to do this using a medium (IRC) which is also global and communal by design, until will apply your scheme to it, then it becomes segmented and divided and just plain silly.
This will fail.
Time to step back and rethink. A project in country X will have many ideas and experiences useful to a project in country Y. Creating divisions along political borders just because... politic borders exist i guess? is not going to help bitcoin.
that'll be $0.02
Calm down their buddy, one world changing revolution at a time. First we change the money, then we can eliminate those invisible lines that divide us all. IRC is an established way for people to communicate instantly, regions help organize language barriers, I'm not seeing this as negatively as you at all. I don't see it as negative at all, I see it as having basically no influence or usefulness whatsoever. It won't hurt anything. Well.. I do think its a shame that the basic premise (as I understand it, to help people who want to promote bitcoin in their locality in a variety of ways) will not be served well by the silly design of this effort, because I think it would be great to promote that type of thing. edit - btw language division is != political border. many counties have significant numbers of people speaking different languages, and of course most languages shared are by many countries. you're probably right that having channels for english speakers, spanish speakers and so on would be a good idea, and often that is how IRC works, whether by official design or simply by self selection. however, that is the only practical reason to have multiple channels that are supposed to be serving the same goal imho. |
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BitcoinPorn
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October 09, 2011, 03:36:33 AM |
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I guess we'll see then, I honestly have no clue how useful or not this endevour is, but I know there are a million other threds to hate and diss on at Bitcointalk than one attempting to connect people who have common goals.
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lodcrappo
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October 09, 2011, 03:38:45 AM |
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I guess we'll see then, I honestly have no clue how useful or not this endevour is, but I know there are a million other threds to hate and diss on at Bitcointalk than one attempting to connect people who have common goals.
"than one attempting to connect people who have common goals." by dividing them into hundreds of different channels... are you still not seeing the futility here?  like i said, i think the premise is a good one. the implementation needs to be corrected. |
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October 09, 2011, 03:56:44 AM |
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"than one attempting to connect people who have common goals." by dividing them into hundreds of different channels... are you still not seeing the futility here? like i said, i think the premise is a good one. the implementation needs to be corrected. I thought about it, I had a much longer reply, but honest it is not necessary. I do not see the futility of many groups working separately toward a common goal. With those separations representing not only possible changes in language, but of course law and politics, on top of a million other region specific issues that it would be best to have teams focused on those issues rather than a whole group seeing a million issues that do not all apply to each other. Isn't this why terrorism works? Because they do it in cells or something. |
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lodcrappo
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October 09, 2011, 04:09:07 AM |
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"than one attempting to connect people who have common goals." by dividing them into hundreds of different channels... are you still not seeing the futility here? like i said, i think the premise is a good one. the implementation needs to be corrected. I thought about it, I had a much longer reply, but honest it is not necessary. I do not see the futility of many groups working separately toward a common goal. With those separations representing not only possible changes in language, but of course law and politics, on top of a million other region specific issues that it would be best to have teams focused on those issues rather than a whole group seeing a million issues that do not all apply to each other. Isn't this why terrorism works? Because they do it in cells or something. There is truth behind your points, but in my opinion the minor inconvenience of filtering through the occasional discussion that doesn't apply directly to your own situation is *far* outweighed by the value of meeting and talking with as many like minded business people as possible, and the common subject of using and promoting bitcoin in business is much larger than the minor regional technicalities. Even when country A does something differently than county B, there is a very high likelihood of country C,D,E,F,G doing what A does and H,I,J,K,L,etc doing what B does. The business world is largely a global one, with even some very small businesses doing international transactions routinely. What better way to highlight the advantages bitcoin has over antiquated political based currencies than by promoting international cooperation and commerce? ps i will drop it now. not meaning to give you or the people behind this thing a hard time. i just think its going in a very, very wrong direction from the start here and needs a real correction to have any chance of success. i hope it does succeed. |
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mizerydearia (OP)
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October 09, 2011, 04:16:54 AM
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So you've decided the way to promote a global currency, possibly the first with true potential to break through traditional economic/ethnic divisions, is to divide everyone in little separate groups based on.. these same borders (mostly)? And you're going to do this using a medium (IRC) which is also global and communal by design, until will apply your scheme to it, then it becomes segmented and divided and just plain silly.
This will fail.
Time to step back and rethink. A project in country X will have many ideas and experiences useful to a project in country Y. Creating divisions along political borders just because... politic borders exist i guess? is not going to help bitcoin.
that'll be $0.02
Not quite. Even prior to my initiative there were 10+ foreign bitcoin channels. I decided to help better establish closer-knit country-based communities for the same purpose. However, these communities (on IRC) are not retricted to the close-knit country-specific IRC chans. They can easily join the global bitcoin communities on IRC (See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IRC_channels) as well. Calm down their buddy, one world changing revolution at a time. First we change the money, then we can eliminate those invisible lines that divide us all. IRC is an established way for people to communicate instantly, regions help organize language barriers, I'm not seeing this as negatively as you at all.
Yep. Most of these foreign channels the dominant language used is nonEnglish. It would be overwhelmingly distracting if, for example, #bitcoin channel were a mix of 50+ languages. Even when country A does something differently than county B, there is a very high likelihood of country C,D,E,F,G doing what A does and H,I,J,K,L,etc doing what B does. This is a good point. If countries US, MX, JP, BY, KZ all agree upon ideaA, ideaB and ideaC and countries US, KZ, MA, PK, CL and IT all agree upon ideaB, ideaC and ideaD, then it makes sense to create separate channels for ideaA, ideaB, ideaC, ideaD instead of for specific countries, since each of these ideas can account for one or more countries and therefore reduce the amount of distinct communities exist (unless, of course, there are more ideas than countries). So, I can alter this country-based effort to instead make use of some other sort of classification to better distinguish or categorize groups of communities to better serve the very same people behind these communities, buuuuuuuuuuuuuut, I first must know what method of classification to rely upon and also I must be aware of all possible values to use to label them appropriately. Any suggestions? However, do keep in mind that this may prevent the ability for communities to rely on alternate languages to communicate with one another as there may be people in each of these communities that do not understand one other. |
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lodcrappo
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October 09, 2011, 04:22:57 AM |
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So you've decided the way to promote a global currency, possibly the first with true potential to break through traditional economic/ethnic divisions, is to divide everyone in little separate groups based on.. these same borders (mostly)? And you're going to do this using a medium (IRC) which is also global and communal by design, until will apply your scheme to it, then it becomes segmented and divided and just plain silly.
This will fail.
Time to step back and rethink. A project in country X will have many ideas and experiences useful to a project in country Y. Creating divisions along political borders just because... politic borders exist i guess? is not going to help bitcoin.
that'll be $0.02
Not quite. Even prior to my initiative there were 10+ foreign bitcoin channels. I decided to help better establish closer-knit country-based communities for the same purpose. However, these communities (on IRC) are not retricted to the close-knit country-specific IRC chans. They can easily join the global bitcoin communities on IRC (See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IRC_channels) as well. Calm down their buddy, one world changing revolution at a time. First we change the money, then we can eliminate those invisible lines that divide us all. IRC is an established way for people to communicate instantly, regions help organize language barriers, I'm not seeing this as negatively as you at all.
Yep. Most of these foreign channels the dominant language used is nonEnglish. It would be overwhelmingly distracting if, for example, #bitcoin channel were a mix of 50+ languages. So.. the problem had already been solved, but you thought it was a good idea to then apply the solution to all the other areas of the world, where the problem didn't exist. Ok... Look, as clearly labeled from my first comment, this is my opinion and I've now explained my opinion more clearly than you wanted to hear about I'm sure. Best of luck, prove me wrong. |
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mizerydearia (OP)
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October 09, 2011, 04:25:43 AM |
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lodcrappo, see my revised reply above.
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October 09, 2011, 04:28:38 AM |
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lodcrappo, see my revised reply above.
ok, since you asked.. "Any suggestions?" Yes: Let IRC channels define themselves organically and dynamically, as they have in the past. Create none. Participate in many. |
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October 09, 2011, 04:30:56 AM |
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lodcrappo, see my revised reply above.
ok, since you asked.. "Any suggestions?" Yes: Let IRC channels define themselves organically and dynamically, as they have in the past. Create none. Participate in many. Okay. Then what about the 90% of the people that did not realize there are others in their country that participate in bitcoin community that they could eventually become aware of maybe if ever. Perhaps in this instance of reality I am doing more harm than not by helping to introduce such awareness earlier than later (of course this excludes individuals which have become aware of such communities prior to my opportunity to introduce them, in which since they already know, no need to mention it to them) Perhaps this awareness of others in locality (whether through self-efforts or efforts initiated by others) is unnecessary? Perhaps this effort established by me is similar to other symbolic efforts previously such as considering radio, tv, Internet? e.g. Google helps to spread awareness of existence of communities, resources. Although, in the case of Google, people go to Google, Google doesn't go to people. But again, in the case of Google, how did people hear about Google? Through word of mouth? Perhaps my effort is similar to word of mouth in which I, as an individual, am mouthly wording existence of the communities (as well as helping to organize their existence for countries which yet do not have an established organized community)? ^_^ Am I getting trolled/trolling? |
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lodcrappo
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October 09, 2011, 04:41:07 AM |
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lodcrappo, see my revised reply above.
ok, since you asked.. "Any suggestions?" Yes: Let IRC channels define themselves organically and dynamically, as they have in the past. Create none. Participate in many. Okay. Then what about the 90% of the people that did not realize there are others in their country that participate in bitcoin community that they could eventually become aware of maybe if ever. Perhaps in this instance of reality I am doing more harm than not by helping to introduce such awareness earlier than later (of course this excludes individuals which have become aware of such communities prior to my opportunity to introduce them, in which since they already know, no need to mention it to them) Perhaps this awareness of others in locality (whether through self-efforts or efforts initiated by others) is unnecessary? Perhaps this effort established by me is similar to other symbolic efforts previously such as considering radio, tv, Internet? e.g. Google helps to spread awareness of existence of communities, resources. Although, in the case of Google, people go to Google, Google doesn't go to people. But again, in the case of Google, how did people hear about Google? Through word of mouth? Perhaps my effort is similar to word of mouth in which I, as an individual, am mouthly wording existence of the communities (as well as helping to organize their existence)? ^_^ Am I getting trolled/trolling? Look, you simply aren't going to turn bitcoin into a success by finding the perfect mix of predefined IRC channels. #1 that's not how IRC works and #2 IRC is used by a tiny fraction of a fraction of a percent of the people who will need to be involved for bitcoin to realize it's potential. I feel like *I'm* getting trolled. While I completely agree with your goal (at least I think I do!), your strategy seems to be obsessed with manipulating a trivial aspect of an unimportant mechanism in a way that will actually defeat your own purposes, except that it won't because it's just not gunna work man. This is asinine. Sincerely good luck, but I'm out. |
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October 09, 2011, 04:48:40 AM |
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Am I getting trolled/trolling?
I think you are. Or you both have different ideas on what is being worked on and promoted. To add to benefits of separate channels. Think of you jumping into an IRC channel to discuss Bitcoin in a general sense, not even for just your region, you would still have to deal with dialect from other regions, which visually could be easy or hard to filter out depending on your language, on top of just that lack of closeness and focus a smaller room can bring. Hell, all this IRC talk makes me want to download mirc, it's been so long. Either way, I believe there is already a big Bitcoin room or a few bigger Bitcoin rooms, why can't we just have all the channels I see a reply came up while replying, "your strategy seems to be obsessed with manipulating a trivial aspect of an unimportant mechanism in a way that will actually defeat your own purposes" Oh jesus, Obsessed, lol |
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October 09, 2011, 05:40:05 AM |
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Since countries vary widely in population, I think it would be better to have channels for regularly-sized (population-wise) regions. Like this (but worldwide): https://i.imgur.com/SQmoC.jpg |
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mizerydearia (OP)
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October 09, 2011, 07:26:11 AM |
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<^_^> foreigndearia: my thoughts are roughly: please let people organize it by themselves .. the most important advantage of Bitcoin is the fact that it's decentralized and people can do as they like, so please don't force people into a regional or language-based separation, but let them organize as they want
<foreigndearia> phedny, So, basically only account for the existing channels and do not take initiative (and relatedly stifly potential creativity) by continuing the patternistic naming scheme for other channels instead allowing other existences to take that opportunity themselves (and also potentially use creativity to allow for slight derivatives or alternatives? ^_^
<^_^> foreigndearia: almost.. but basically, just don't interfere with the process.. you may start your own channel and if people like it they'll join
<^_^> anyway, this channel is meant for Dutch speaking people, so I'd prefer this conversation to be continued in Dutch
<^_^> for international topics people that want to also are in other channels It makes more sense to establish communities surrounding languages instead of regions, hence the desire to communicate in Dutch and not English. |
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Gabi
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October 09, 2011, 08:22:06 AM |
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So you've decided the way to promote a global currency, possibly the first with true potential to break through traditional economic/ethnic divisions, is to divide everyone in little separate groups based on.. these same borders (mostly)? And you're going to do this using a medium (IRC) which is also global and communal by design, until will apply your scheme to it, then it becomes segmented and divided and just plain silly.
This will fail.
Time to step back and rethink. A project in country X will have many ideas and experiences useful to a project in country Y. Creating divisions along political borders just because... politic borders exist i guess? is not going to help bitcoin.
that'll be $0.02
Or maybe he did this so we can speak in our language? Sure, a lot of people know english but if you want to invite someone that doesn't know it well, having a channel with people of that nation is useful |
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GideonGono
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October 09, 2011, 09:11:27 AM |
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How come there is no Zimbabwe? Countries with failed currencies seem like a no-brainer to me.
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rdponticelli
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October 09, 2011, 09:37:24 AM |
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I think that both list may be useful. Country list is useful for people looking for other people who shares the same financial tools (having bank accounts on the same country allows them to merchant easily). Language codes list may be useful for people just looking for information in some specific language. |
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mizerydearia (OP)
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October 16, 2011, 09:59:17 AM |
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Is there anyone that speaks Blissymbol (zbl), Brithenig (bzt), Quenya (qya), Sindarin (sjn), Glosa (igs), Ido (ido), Interlingua (ina), Klingon (tlh), Láadan (ldn), Lingua Franca Nova (lfn), Novial (nov), Occidental (ile) or Volapük (vol)?
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Gabi
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October 16, 2011, 10:05:53 AM |
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Interested in klingon  |
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Alphonso Bedoya
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October 17, 2011, 09:57:14 AM |
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To coin a phrase: "All economics are local." The merchants that I have talked to around here in Northern Podunk USA about bitcoins don't care about global issues per se. They want to know: wtf are bitcoins? Then, what are advantages to me to use them? Etc. Decentalizd = local, imo, is what I am saying. Legal and tax issues are "local". Seems like a good idea and no harm done to try it.
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phelix
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October 22, 2011, 03:08:07 PM |
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http://bitcoinx.com has also got hits from: saudi arabia, iraq, qatar, haiti, honduras, barbados, sri lanka, jamaica
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March 12, 2012, 10:30:59 PM
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can you please update the brazilian bitcoin channel?
the old one appears to be forgotten, #bitcoin-br was registered 44 weeks ago is the last login info for the user that registered it is from 39 weeks ago. thats bizarre.
#bitcoin-bra is now registered and with a stable and careful manager.
All portuguese speakers are welcome, those who yet don't know portuguese are welcome too.
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November 17, 2012, 08:35:27 PM |
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There's #bitcoin-ar too, for Argentine people. Still not very crowded, but sometimes we have some action there. |
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June 09, 2013, 02:10:17 AM |
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There's #bitcoin-ar too, for Argentine people. Still not very crowded, but sometimes we have some action there. Good to know, neighboor, meet us brazilians at #bitcoin-bra, we are growing strong too. Viva Sulamerica =P |
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June 09, 2013, 02:28:03 AM |
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There's #bitcoin-ar too, for Argentine people. Still not very crowded, but sometimes we have some action there. Good to know, neighboor, meet us brazilians at #bitcoin-bra, we are growing strong too. Viva Sulamerica =P Kind of want bra's with a BTC on them now |
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June 09, 2013, 02:31:16 AM |
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There's #bitcoin-ar too, for Argentine people. Still not very crowded, but sometimes we have some action there. Good to know, neighboor, meet us brazilians at #bitcoin-bra, we are growing strong too. Viva Sulamerica =P Kind of want bra's with a BTC on them now Me too, me too  |
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June 09, 2013, 03:14:39 PM |
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There's #bitcoin-ar too, for Argentine people. Still not very crowded, but sometimes we have some action there. Good to know, neighboor, meet us brazilians at #bitcoin-bra, we are growing strong too. Viva Sulamerica =P Kind of want bra's with a BTC on them now Me too, me too Joined. Long live southern brotherhood! |
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June 09, 2013, 08:28:50 PM |
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i'll be active in #bitcoin-ir from now on if anyone need any help let me know.
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June 09, 2013, 08:51:18 PM |
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I wonder what happened to BitcoinPorn? He just disappeared.
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