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August 03, 2018, 03:59:24 AM
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Good read mate. And this is really happening out there to many people who got buddies that are degenerate gamblers as well. But as we all know, if we'll gonna learn something from life, that is you need to learn things first by your OWN experience for you to really ponder what's the lesson that you really need to learn. You need to experience utter defeat and loss to value your money more. Thanks for sharing the very important experience that you have as a gambler and hopefully, many will get something out of it.  Wink
The essence of reading is to learned and use it as basis, though own experiences is far differ from what we read, as we can easily say that it can never happen as we won't allow it, but the reality is we can't avoid it if you are already in this situations, nice share mate for more inexperience gamblers
should learn from this thread.
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August 03, 2018, 05:29:06 AM
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Drunk + pissed + losing streak + ATM is not a good combination when you are in a casino. The chance of losing a lot of money is very high since you are drunk, your decision making is messed up and that is on top of the losing streak. To control the amount of money you spend in gambling, you just bring only the amount of money you plan to spend. Leave the ATM card at home. If it's possible go to the casino using a cab, much better, there are loan sharks waiting around the casino who accepts cars as collateral for those who wants to win back their money.

This is the worst combinations you'd want to be in before going to or when in a casino. For sure, you're going to lose and being drunk also makes the situation a whole lot worse because you could even bet what you don't even have. Very dangerous and highly not recommended. Good eye opener.
Lol, talk about tripple yathzee. Drunk, pissed, losing Cheesy You can't get any worse than that, you really can't. I think anytime you mix gambling with drinking the results will not be good at all. I know they serve free drinks at casinos but obviously as we all know that is because they want you drunk so you lose more and don't care until next morning.

Casinos are designed perfectly for you to get loss inside and make it harder to leave the casino itself so you would spend an extra couple bucks before you leave. The colors, the no windows, the entertainment all of that just so you can spend a bit more time. Don't fall for that and don't drink when you are gambling.

Feeling of "not enough" is the crying out of greed. If you start listening to that then probably you will start collapsing your own plans of gambling. Limiting ourselves will be possible only when we have no room for emotions. If we start deviating from that then disaster may happen at any moments. Not just sometimes, always enough is enough with respect to gambling. Because at least that way, we may leave off some of our hard earned money unspent.
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August 03, 2018, 03:20:34 PM
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that is why it is  better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss
How the income is profitable in the long run when you sportsBet? You literally are playing a predictable dice game and of course your knowledge of a particular sports matter but there are equal risks. I'm glad you have recovered your losses but you were playing with the equal amount of risks as you did while playing dice.

I think you don't know about sports betting as it needs calculation analysis and some old research and you can predict a bet on it. But in dice you are totally playing on luck. If you bet equally amount of value bet in each bet then you're loss chances are less and profit will be high.

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August 03, 2018, 06:18:26 PM
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Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.
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August 03, 2018, 08:11:21 PM
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Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.

I'm glad to have a responsible woman that knows how much money we can spend and doesn't go crazy with shopping. Being with a lady that doesn't stop spending is like having a dog that occasionally bites you, but you keep it because most of the time he's good and protects the house.
If you have to constantly remember to take cash instead of cards or set limits, maybe it's better not go near a casino at all?Cheesy

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August 03, 2018, 11:58:39 PM
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Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.
Yes i guess bringing hard cash whenever you go for shopping or gambling is the best thing to do than bringing your debit cards i guess.You will not spend across from your budget and you will not make any troubles too from your savings cards.

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August 04, 2018, 02:45:25 AM
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Wow, that's quite a story! I've made some new conclusions in relation to gambling. First: you shouldn't be superstitious when your money is on, that what really can make you lose money. Once I was crazy about number 3 so I did everything for three times in dice (don't mean just betting, a whole set of bets with particular numbers) hoping that for the third time I'll win. It didn't last for long, however made me lose some money. Second: you should never ever go beyond planned expenditure amounts for a day. Selling phone - sounds crazy, but not as crazy as a fact that gamblers can go as far as selling their apartments and borrowing money. And the last but not least: if you are hazardous and going out for a play you need to hire an authorised delegate to control your expenses.  

What you said about being superstitious regarding the number 3, that's called gamblers fallacy.
You start believing that you're owed a win on that number, while in reality it's entirely possible that that number never hits when you're playing.

Never try to see patterns in the numbers that are hit on the board. That really messes a lot of people up.

that is why it is  better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss
Sports betting is still gambling in the end, and if you mismanage your bets there is still the chance of losing your money, but it is definitely different from traditional gambling where probabilities are precalculated and the games have built in house edge so you're guaranteed to lose in the long run. As with all gambling, betting has lots of risk involved, but correct management of funds and not gambling what you can't afford to lose could net you a profit. I personally like to invest my crypto and lend for long-term gains as it's safer than betting, however.
Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However,  gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

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August 04, 2018, 03:43:54 AM
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Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However,  gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.
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August 04, 2018, 05:25:52 AM
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Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However,  gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.
Well it’s just how it is here. We need to point out on something obvious but definitely just common sense. I think it has a different approach with trading and gambling. And people should treat it differently because if you dont, you are just going to do things rash and may not result well. We all have to take risks in order to move.

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August 04, 2018, 06:20:37 AM
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Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However,  gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.
Well it’s just how it is here. We need to point out on something obvious but definitely just common sense. I think it has a different approach with trading and gambling. And people should treat it differently because if you dont, you are just going to do things rash and may not result well. We all have to take risks in order to move.
Everything that involves risk doesn't mean that it is likely gambling. Risk in involved everywhere in our lives, if it is any of the financial activity any other activity. The simple and easy example of risk in our life is that almost everyone need to travel on a daily basis which involves the risk of accident to loose life or serious damage to our body but still a lot of people ignore that risk factor and go for travelling.
So, is the case with the trading but it doesn't mean that involvement of risk makes it gambling. IN case of gambling and betting everyone knows that is a distracting activity.
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August 04, 2018, 08:47:34 AM
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Borrowing money on the other hand is much more common than you think. I've seen people borrowing money directly in a gambling site chatbox, asking/begging for someone to lend them some money.
Some gamblers just really need to watch "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" movie to see what borrowing can lead to. Long story short if you haven't seen that one - a guy who was really good at poker borrowed money from all of his friends and some gangsters too and lost the game (the main problem was that he was kinda good at reading people's faces and so he usually knew what cards they had on hands, but this time his opponent was cheating). Eventually, not only he has set up all his friends and owed LOTS OF MONEY to gangsters, but he was also threatened that if he doesn't return his debt he and his friends will be killed.  Cheesy
I don't know how realistic this situation is, but every gambler just have to keep in mind that owing someone may end up very bad, so it's better to be left with nothing.
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August 04, 2018, 09:21:28 AM
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Some gamblers just really need to watch "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" movie to see what borrowing can lead to.
Is that movie really about gambling? Roll Eyes

Long story short if you haven't seen that one - a guy who was really good at poker borrowed money from all of his friends and some gangsters too and lost the game (the main problem was that he was kinda good at reading people's faces and so he usually knew what cards they had on hands, but this time his opponent was cheating). Eventually, not only he has set up all his friends and owed LOTS OF MONEY to gangsters, but he was also threatened that if he doesn't return his debt he and his friends will be killed.  Cheesy
I don't know how realistic this situation is, but every gambler just has to keep in mind that owing someone may end up very bad, so it's better to be left with nothing.
That's just a dramatic movie man and not a real-life scenario! There are no "thugs" to extort money out here, you simply come crawling to the house to try your luck! No one forces you to bet or no one threatens you from taking home the winnings.
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August 04, 2018, 10:32:57 AM
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Yeah, control can be very hard to sustain especially on one of those messed up nights when a gambler drinks as well. Rather not to go to any casino on those nights. Occasionally it can be OK bachelorette party for instance, but regularly it is very against the odds
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August 04, 2018, 11:11:49 AM
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It's a great story, but OP need to have a better control when gamble, many people become bankrupt because they were consume by greed and anger, and keep on curious to win back the money,it's very lucky that this story got a happy ending, not all of the gambler story is as lucky as OP , usually when you lose then your bad luck will continue


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August 04, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
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Its hard to say that, specially if you are already addicted even you reach your limit you will keep going on until you didnt notice that youve lose lots of money already. For those new at gambling make sure you know your limitation to avoid addiction like op said at the title of this thread enough is enough.

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August 04, 2018, 08:45:25 PM
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Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However,  gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.
Well it’s just how it is here. We need to point out on something obvious but definitely just common sense. I think it has a different approach with trading and gambling. And people should treat it differently because if you dont, you are just going to do things rash and may not result well. We all have to take risks in order to move.
Everything that involves risk doesn't mean that it is likely gambling. Risk in involved everywhere in our lives, if it is any of the financial activity any other activity. The simple and easy example of risk in our life is that almost everyone need to travel on a daily basis which involves the risk of accident to loose life or serious damage to our body but still a lot of people ignore that risk factor and go for travelling.
So, is the case with the trading but it doesn't mean that involvement of risk makes it gambling. IN case of gambling and betting everyone knows that is a distracting activity.
Janation and Nidacoinlove, I understand your point but I want you to know that I pretty know what I'm saying when I said trading and gamble are the same because they both have to do with risk. However, have you ever googling the mean of gamble ? "take risky action in the hope of a desired result."

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August 05, 2018, 05:49:23 AM
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Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However,  gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.
How is trading not greedy ?
How does traders don't have to greed the gamblers have ?
I mean I feel like its just the opposite if you ask me. If you are gambling yes there are people who want to earn money from gambling however a lot of people like me who gamble just for the entertainment value, just like it was some game to play on your PC.

Nevertheless, the main point of trading is earning money, you do not trade to lose money or have fun, you can gamble for entertainment but you can't trade for entertainment. If you are a gambler and addicted than you can be right but the whole purpose of trading is greed, gambling on the other hand can be just some fun experience.
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August 05, 2018, 09:16:20 AM
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Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.


This is an excellent idea to keep check and balance of the amount spend on Gambling. Since Gambling is sort of emotional game, sometimes one does not stop in case of certain profit or loss and keep on going further which can give loss.





that is why it is  better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss
How the income is profitable in the long run when you sportsBet? You literally are playing a predictable dice game and of course your knowledge of a particular sports matter but there are equal risks. I'm glad you have recovered your losses but you were playing with the equal amount of risks as you did while playing dice.

I think you don't know about sports betting as it needs calculation analysis and some old research and you can predict a bet on it. But in dice you are totally playing on luck. If you bet equally amount of value bet in each bet then you're loss chances are less and profit will be high.

Still applying equally of both the teams in sports be isn' t going to help much because at one side you will Win but at the other side you will lose and eventually the profit will be neglected by the loss.

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August 05, 2018, 11:49:11 AM
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Its hard to say that, specially if you are already addicted even you reach your limit you will keep going on until you didnt notice that youve lose lots of money already. For those new at gambling make sure you know your limitation to avoid addiction like op said at the title of this thread enough is enough.
If you are a gambler, controlling yourself is easier said than done. You will leave your ATM card at home and bring only certain amount to gamble but if you lose you go home and get that ATM card and go back to gamble hoping that you will regain that lost money only to lose more. Have experienced this kind of scenario, self control is very hard when you know that you still have money back home.
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August 05, 2018, 11:51:45 AM
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Going with friends is bad. I sometimes gamble all my money and I take loans from them without even being sure I would be able to repay them Sad
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