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Question: What bitcoin is for you ?  (Voting closed: February 27, 2014, 09:48:05 PM)
A good way to earn money - 23 (18.3%)
A POC for next monetary system - 14 (11.1%)
The next monetary system - 53 (42.1%)
A kind of philosophy - 26 (20.6%)
Nothing - 7 (5.6%)
A hobby - 3 (2.4%)
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February 18, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
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it is becoming a slightly unhealthy obsession...lol jk
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February 18, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
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for me too Cheesy
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February 18, 2014, 10:38:40 PM
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Decentralized payment system. No more you have to ask middleman or authority...

What is the difference between a middleman and a miner or authority and fat pools ?

Sorry, i'm not fair, you will be the only one I will quote. Don't see there any offense Smiley

It's amazing how people made a such link between society concepts and banking systems (zeitgeist out of that body ! Wink).
I'm from Europe, in fact, and I don't experience the same connexion on the subject like americans or russians I think.

From my point of view, a banking system just allows people to exchange one thing with another with a reference value.
And the reference should be the same for each people who trust it.

What I find interesting in bitcoin, is that it has never been linked to material standard (gold standard for good old currency, even if it's no more true today, the past write the future). So, its reference is completely subjective. It's like performing a poker estimation for everything.

How do you calculate the value of an object in your mind ?

Do you compute the change with the current rate of your currency ?
(if true, I think everybody who reply "the next monetary system" have lied in some part)

Or can you say, ok, 1BTC is fair for an apple*, whatever the current rate ?
(if false, I think everybody who reply "the next monetary system" have lied in some part)

* the fruit Smiley
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February 18, 2014, 11:53:47 PM
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a banking system just allows people to exchange one thing with another with a reference value.
And the reference should be the same for each people who trust it.

ah ah ah ... you trust this ?
well, read this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM
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February 19, 2014, 04:07:01 AM
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Freedom/independence from banks. No more banking system needed! Period!

Bitcoin technology replaces the fraudulent system of fractional reserve banking and inflationary fiat currency!
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February 19, 2014, 04:47:44 AM
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Financial freedom. The ability to store and transfer value without asking for help from a middleman or permission from an authority.

I agree completely
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February 19, 2014, 05:16:44 AM
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A future currency
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February 19, 2014, 05:56:49 AM
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To me it represents the possibility of positive change-

A better world will be built from the blockchain up because of bitcoin.
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February 19, 2014, 11:37:52 AM
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A good way to earn money  Smiley
yeah i agree with you btw thx   Grin

it is a good way to earn money if you have money to invest Tongue
or if you can earn by doing tasks like me Cheesy
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February 19, 2014, 12:18:33 PM
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Btc for me is PERFECT money . Hate to see people trying to destroy it .

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February 19, 2014, 01:30:02 PM
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A good way to earn money  Smiley
yeah i agree with you btw thx   Grin

it is a good way to earn money if you have money to invest Tongue
or if you can earn by doing tasks like me Cheesy

agree  Cool

because sure it is true Smiley
it must be Smiley
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February 19, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
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I know bitcoin two month ago. I hope it can earn some money for me and become a medium to transfer.
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February 19, 2014, 05:06:44 PM
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Digital anarchy!!!



you mean digital capitalism. property rights and anarchy are pretty much the opposite. if you don't understand anything, just ask.

That's not 100% accurate, unless you are confusing "property rights" with "private ownership of the means of production" which is generally referred in Marxism as "private property". Most original archists (Bakunin, Sorel, Proudhon... Even Kropotkin) were not against "personal property" (or "possession"), they were opposed to "private property" as all the thinkers influenced by the works of Karl Marx.

To clarify:

Personal property (or "possessions") = your house, your clothes, your kids toys, etc. The vast majority of anarchists were totally OK with personal property and agreed that nobody has the right to take that from you. Even communists agreed on that.

Private property = the land, the factory, etc. Anarchists believed that the owners of the means of production should be the workers themselves. If you are working a certain piece of land, then you decide directly what you do with the fruit of your labor. Nobody else can (not even the "state" or "the party" as communist say). If you are working for somebody else (a boss, or the state, or whatever) then you are "alienated" and inherently not free.

But yes, if what you meant is that anarchism and capitalism are pretty much the opposite, then you are right - in fact anarchism was born precisely as a reaction against capitalist society.

Capitalism just means "an economic system in which industry and the means of production are controlled by private owners" (that's the first line on "capitalism" on Wikipedia - a definition first used precisely by Karl Marx), and anarchism was strongly opposed to that. Just do not tell this to the US folks reading this forum who have had their brain washed by Rothbard's absurd "anarcho-capitalist" theory, which is pure and simply an oxymoron (don't know if he was trolling or just a retarded, but his "work" made quite an impact on US culture). Anarchism is about absolute freedom - no RULER, and that means no STATE and no BOSSES (private or public) and no WAGE SLAVERY. No coercition at all. That's the very foundation of anarchism - being anti-capitalist. If you have to do what someone else wants you to do in order to earn a salary, then that's the opposite of what Anarchism means.

Last but not least, Bitcoin has NOTHING to do with "digital anarchy".

(mods: sorry for the offtopic. Please move this to the appropiate subforum if you think its necessary).



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February 19, 2014, 06:45:20 PM
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you need to add "A Hobby" to the poll. Cool
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February 19, 2014, 07:03:39 PM
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you need to add "A Hobby" to the poll. Cool

Yeah , hobby , and ADDICTION ! Cheesy

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February 19, 2014, 08:24:44 PM
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A good way to earn money    - 21 (18.3%)
A POC for next monetary system    - 14 (12.2%)
The next monetary system    - 48 (41.7%)
A kind of philosophy    - 25 (21.7%)
Nothing    - 7 (6.1%)
   
Total Voters: 115
but what if i want to vote for more then 1 option...! because its more then just one thing..

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February 19, 2014, 08:31:39 PM
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Reply to a bad vote option:It most prolly wont be the next currency too many flaws. Maybe used in very rare instances
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February 19, 2014, 08:32:47 PM
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its the fuckin future
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February 19, 2014, 08:33:07 PM
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Bitcoin - cryptocurrency
Bitcoin - a chance to change the world
Bitcoin - building a huge community
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February 19, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
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its the fuckin future

of being history hahahaha!
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too many flaws in bitcoin right now.Either bitcoin improves or altcoin replaces bitcoin
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