Bitcoin with Immanuel - Project Mainstream, Phase 1

How to get sane people to like Bitcoin? MORE CRAZY PEOPLE!

Sincerely,
Atlas

Idea#2 for mainstream Bitcoin acceptance: retroactively edit the Unabomber Manifesto to include numerous mentions of Bitcoin and distribute it widely.

Idea#3: Make a podcast where you spend 5 minutes eagerly defending the Confederate States of America and comparing their noble cause to that of Bitcoin. Oh wait. Atlas already did that one.

Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 08, 2011, 07:37:44 AM

Idea#3: Make a podcast where you spend 5 minutes eagerly defending the Confederate States of America and comparing their noble cause to that of Bitcoin. Oh wait. Atlas already did that one.

wait...what?

Quote from: evolve on October 08, 2011, 07:57:46 AM

Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 08, 2011, 07:37:44 AM

Idea#3: Make a podcast where you spend 5 minutes eagerly defending the Confederate States of America and comparing their noble cause to that of Bitcoin. Oh wait. Atlas already did that one.

wait...what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVCjCmSeIo

Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 08, 2011, 07:32:26 AM

How to get sane people to like Bitcoin? MORE CRAZY PEOPLE!

Sincerely,
Atlas

Unremorsefully, yes. Crazy people tend to be great activists and spend money on novel things.

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 01:14:50 PM

Quote from: rainingbitcoins on October 08, 2011, 07:32:26 AM

How to get sane people to like Bitcoin? MORE CRAZY PEOPLE!

Sincerely,
Atlas

Unremorsefully, yes. Crazy people tend to be great activists and spend money on novel things.

We interrupt this thread to bring you late breaking news... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptq_Z0JQcos

We now return you to your regular forum.

I think my comment about the $5 thing flew straight over your head like an F-16. It's not about the actual dollar value of it to me, it's about the purchasing power - that's why the developing frame of reference (decimated by yesterday's slump, but whatever) was kind of neat. The only time I care about the dollar value of Bitcoin is when it comes time to pay taxes. Pegging it to a particular USD amount does the opposite of that - it seems like just yesterday bread was 89c, now it's $1.25.

You mentioned it can't "just stay at $5" because when more people start putting money into it then the value has to go up - that's fine, I get that. My problem is that you then use some weird, obscure, and circular logic to imply that in order to have a healthy economy it needs to go up, and that to do that it needs more money injected. Either the money coming in to the economy is an unavoidable consequence of people using it, or it's something to be forced in order to project stability.

My comment had very little to do with the actual dollar-value of BTC, and everything to do with stability in buying power. I realize that due to the linear, predetermined rate of inflation and the decidedly non-linear rate at which people and value will enter the economy... that stability is hard to come by, and that that's where speculators come in to smooth things out.

But that's not the same thing as "we need to sell it to more people" and tying success to speculation and an ever rising price. When all you do is pump the price and encourage more speculation and say "buy Bitcoin!" it comes off as a scam, and that's the reason for the piss-poor take-up. Worst of all, with the type of audience you lust after right now, it could go either way. They could be rabid in helping it succeed, or they could be rabid in attempting to destroy it. I'm betting the latter when you consider the audience and that your best marketing still basically boils down to "think how rich we can all be, act now while there's still time."

Atlas, could you give us a rundown of all the bitcoin projects you've proposed and where they all stand right now?

Quote from: Jalum on October 08, 2011, 03:09:21 PM

Atlas, could you give us a rundown of all the bitcoin projects you've proposed and where they all stand right now?

I'm still working on the Woolong Device.

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

Quote from: Jalum on October 08, 2011, 03:09:21 PM

Atlas, could you give us a rundown of all the bitcoin projects you've proposed and where they all stand right now?

I'm still working on the Woolong Device.

YEAH!! that alone would be a huge addition

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

Quote from: Jalum on October 08, 2011, 03:09:21 PM

Atlas, could you give us a rundown of all the bitcoin projects you've proposed and where they all stand right now?

I'm still working on the Woolong Device.

Good work on the website - http://www.woolongfinancial.com/

Quote from: JonHind on October 08, 2011, 05:30:35 PM

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

Quote from: Jalum on October 08, 2011, 03:09:21 PM

Atlas, could you give us a rundown of all the bitcoin projects you've proposed and where they all stand right now?

I'm still working on the Woolong Device.

Good work on the website - http://www.woolongfinancial.com/

I liked it better when it was hosting gay porn.

Quote from: FAtlas on October 08, 2011, 05:31:52 PM

Quote from: JonHind on October 08, 2011, 05:30:35 PM

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

Quote from: Jalum on October 08, 2011, 03:09:21 PM

Atlas, could you give us a rundown of all the bitcoin projects you've proposed and where they all stand right now?

I'm still working on the Woolong Device.

Good work on the website - http://www.woolongfinancial.com/

I liked it better when it was hosting gay porn.

Immanual was hosting gay porn? Lips sealed

Not that it matters of course, but I wouldn't have thought that he'd be the type to run a porn site.

I do not own nor am I associated with http://woolongfinancial.com in any way.

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 05:38:44 PM

I do not own nor am I associated with http://woolongfinancial.com in any way.

I'm really confused now. I thought that was your company? It has your video on the site?

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 05:38:44 PM

I do not own nor am I associated with http://woolongfinancial.com in any way.

Awwww, I wanted to hear about the redundant decentralized databases. Are you telling me they don't actually exist?

I think our best luck would be with the occupy wall-street crowd. They are fast growing, technology minded, and willing to move for their cause. They are not Libertarians, so our arguments should not be 'Its like gold' or 'the government doesn't control it', we should take the peoples currency route, all the current payment solutions, other can cash, require large corporations. If we present bitcoin as an alternative to corporate-controlled credit cards and paypal then i think we could bring some serious attention to Bitcoin. Furthermore this should probably be our approach all around, its generally easier to inspire passion and distaste against corporations then it is against the government. Bitcoin needs to be marketed as a replacement for credit cards, not cash, that's something we have to take on later, much much later.

Quote from: JonHind on October 08, 2011, 05:42:51 PM

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 05:38:44 PM

I do not own nor am I associated with http://woolongfinancial.com in any way.

I'm really confused now. I thought that was your company? It has your video on the site?

Look at the writing and tell me it's legitimate with a straight face.

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 10:38:02 PM

Quote from: JonHind on October 08, 2011, 05:42:51 PM

Quote from: Immanuel Go on October 08, 2011, 05:38:44 PM

I do not own nor am I associated with http://woolongfinancial.com in any way.

I'm really confused now. I thought that was your company? It has your video on the site?

Look at the writing and tell me it's legitimate with a straight face.

It initially read like your writing, but on 2nd reading, I see what you mean Wink