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[FUR11]

New features for Monday's contests:

• Live chat!
• NBA Target Tourney - score 350 fantasy points and win the entire prize pool - prize pool will roll over if there is no winner
• 5-Man Winner-Take-All CDP contests

The ability to buy into freerolls, satellites, and BTC contests with CDP is coming very soon!

I like it.

Do you have a rough estimate on what kind of conversion rate we can expect in the future from our CDPs?  Just to let us know how much we're gambling with in the CDP contests. 

[meawleir21]

Winning anything in the free rolls is next to impossible now for normal-medium quality- players with "quone17 and the gang"  , Pretty cool game though,I will be improving my picks and playing with real BTC's now.

[quone17]

Winning anything in the free rolls is next to impossible now for normal-medium quality- players with "quone17 and the gang"  , Pretty cool game though,I will be improving my picks and playing with real BTC's now.

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Why would you mention me?  I think I've placed in about 4 freerolls, out of like 20 or 30.  Get a life.

[quone17]

Ummm. CoinDrafts, you may want to reconsider the rules of the BIG 0.5BTC Freeroll.

There is no skill involved in it. Its a bit of a joke. Allowing 1 player to enter 10+ teams etc. What's the point of that? With so many opportunities to configure lineups - a handful of players will sweep the prize.

You may as well divided it up between them now and do away with it.

The players are only going the rules, but surely it takes away the fun. Just taking advantage of not well thought out rules.

It should be like a poker satellite - you get a ticket - you get 1 seat in the next level up game.

I disagree with your point, but I do agree that the tournament has gotten somewhat ridiculous.  DFS isn't a poker tournament, it's playing the odds on players.  Thus entering multiple teams into tournaments is +ev, since you can use different combinations to maximize your exposure.  I'll often enter multiple teams in the .005 GPP, and in fiat DFS I've at times entered 30+ teams into the same giant tournament.

Limiting each player to one entry defeats the purpose of having a large target tournament...everyone will have one.  You might as well advocate eliminating the sat tournaments altogether.  

I do think that it needs to be done away with/modified.  It's become the focal point of the site, and the real-btc games are barely getting any action.  It's lead to a lot of people just grinding those and tooling up the chat, which is lose-lose for everyone.  I did well in the tournament the last week, but have stopped playing the sats because there are going to be ~300-400 entries into the tournament so each ticket is going to be worth very very little.  Not really worth it to me to grind all of the free sats.

My suggestion?  Keep everything the same (10 man SNGs, fire on-demand) but have there be a small buy-in, maybe .001BTC.  It'll operate more like a traditional sat, defer some of the cost for CD, ect.  Or perhaps have the buyin for the sats be CDP since there is no other use for them at the moment?  Either way, I just think that you need to incentivize people to participate in the real-btc games on the site, not decentivize them from doing so.

What you say is fair, and you come across as reasonable. And i too would like to see the action focused more on the buy-in games.
So we both want the best for the site because we both think it's great.

But all i am saying is the 'Big one' can be manipulated towards those that have the most time to spend rather than the most/any skill.

You can either 'grind out' the free sats - or you can set up 10 accounts - put all those 10 accounts into the same 10 man free sat - and end up with 3 guaranteed tickets. Pick the same 3 accounts each time to get all the tickets and at the end of the week have those 3 accounts each enter the big one 30 times each - NO Skill at all - just time in going through the motions.

Then with those 90 (or whatever the number is) tickets, skew the big one away from genuine players looking to test their skill and have fun with the site, towards yourself.
Basically its taking advantage of the rules to steal from the site.

Now i am NOT SAYING ANYONE IS DOING THIS at the moment. Just saying it can be done. And its no fun putting in 1 team and seeing another player with 20 teams. And its not because that player is more skillfull - its just that they spent more time. And i do not think the reward should go to the time rich.

It will get old and boring pretty quick - and kill the site - if the rules are not looked at. I agree with the suggestion you made. That'll help things.

I previously pointed out this issue and agree with you goose.  I don't have time or the inclination to set up 10 accounts or enter all the satellites to get the tickets.  It's a joke.

[quone17]

I tried looking through the thread and checking the first post and couldn't find anything.  How much rollover does the "bonus" portion of account balance require before withdrawal is possible?  Thanks.

[djarot]

I tried looking through the thread and checking the first post and couldn't find anything.  How much rollover does the "bonus" portion of account balance require before withdrawal is possible?  Thanks.

Hi quone, you can find the answer in page 21.. CMIIW

Freeroll contest winnings are now added to your Bonus balance and require a 1x play through to be withdrawn. Thanks for the great input everyone, expect more great changes in the near future.

Do the BIG FREEROLL winning goes to bonus too ?

Currently the "The Big BTC.5 Freeroll" will be credited to your bonus and require a 1x play through before cashing out, however the format will be changing in the future and no roll over will be required to cashout. We hope everyone understands and enjoy hearing our customers input.

[leex1528]

Question:

I won a free roll of .01 the other day which was propped in my bonus BTC, I did 2 .005 and won 1 of them.  I also won another free roll yesterday for .02

Now in my balance I have .005 in my real BTC value and .0025 in my Bonus?  I won .01 the with the .005 bet I entered, and sorta confused how this plays out

Thanks!

[Kyraishi]

Leex
the bonus balance is a bit bugged, don't worry CD will fix it soon .

[btcgolfing]

Ummm. CoinDrafts, you may want to reconsider the rules of the BIG 0.5BTC Freeroll.

There is no skill involved in it. Its a bit of a joke. Allowing 1 player to enter 10+ teams etc. What's the point of that? With so many opportunities to configure lineups - a handful of players will sweep the prize.

You may as well divided it up between them now and do away with it.

The players are only going the rules, but surely it takes away the fun. Just taking advantage of not well thought out rules.

It should be like a poker satellite - you get a ticket - you get 1 seat in the next level up game.

I disagree with your point, but I do agree that the tournament has gotten somewhat ridiculous.  DFS isn't a poker tournament, it's playing the odds on players.  Thus entering multiple teams into tournaments is +ev, since you can use different combinations to maximize your exposure.  I'll often enter multiple teams in the .005 GPP, and in fiat DFS I've at times entered 30+ teams into the same giant tournament.

Limiting each player to one entry defeats the purpose of having a large target tournament...everyone will have one.  You might as well advocate eliminating the sat tournaments altogether.  

I do think that it needs to be done away with/modified.  It's become the focal point of the site, and the real-btc games are barely getting any action.  It's lead to a lot of people just grinding those and tooling up the chat, which is lose-lose for everyone.  I did well in the tournament the last week, but have stopped playing the sats because there are going to be ~300-400 entries into the tournament so each ticket is going to be worth very very little.  Not really worth it to me to grind all of the free sats.

My suggestion?  Keep everything the same (10 man SNGs, fire on-demand) but have there be a small buy-in, maybe .001BTC.  It'll operate more like a traditional sat, defer some of the cost for CD, ect.  Or perhaps have the buyin for the sats be CDP since there is no other use for them at the moment?  Either way, I just think that you need to incentivize people to participate in the real-btc games on the site, not decentivize them from doing so.

What you say is fair, and you come across as reasonable. And i too would like to see the action focused more on the buy-in games.
So we both want the best for the site because we both think it's great.

But all i am saying is the 'Big one' can be manipulated towards those that have the most time to spend rather than the most/any skill.

You can either 'grind out' the free sats - or you can set up 10 accounts - put all those 10 accounts into the same 10 man free sat - and end up with 3 guaranteed tickets. Pick the same 3 accounts each time to get all the tickets and at the end of the week have those 3 accounts each enter the big one 30 times each - NO Skill at all - just time in going through the motions.

Then with those 90 (or whatever the number is) tickets, skew the big one away from genuine players looking to test their skill and have fun with the site, towards yourself.
Basically its taking advantage of the rules to steal from the site.

Now i am NOT SAYING ANYONE IS DOING THIS at the moment. Just saying it can be done. And its no fun putting in 1 team and seeing another player with 20 teams. And its not because that player is more skillfull - its just that they spent more time. And i do not think the reward should go to the time rich.

It will get old and boring pretty quick - and kill the site - if the rules are not looked at. I agree with the suggestion you made. That'll help things.

I previously pointed out this issue and agree with you goose.  I don't have time or the inclination to set up 10 accounts or enter all the satellites to get the tickets.  It's a joke.

I agree, a limit of a few teams per player maximum would be nice instead of 15 teams for 6 or 7 guys and a few of us with a couple each, either way im hooked and want to give a shout out to CoinDrafts on a job well done so far.

[Stousers]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

[FUR11]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

OH SHIT!

[fantasycoin]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

OH SHIT!

Too funny, i thought you were a gonner man glad to see you didnt run off, had not heard from you in a couple days. I apologize i couldn't enter the NHL pool last time we played and Id be more then happy to make up for it with a .2 NBA and 2 .2 NHL pools, at worst its a sweep cause the NBA pools are a cake walk against you and Im assuming a split with the NHL but could go your way, either way im over 500 against you in all pools we have both been in together and it feels good so lets throw some more W's on the chalk board under fantasycoin and ill  go anytime you want, any sport...

[FUR11]

So an NHL game got ppd today.  I noticed that there were no rules on-site explaining what happens to a ppd game, so this would probable be a good time to add that section esp with MLB coming up.  I'm assuming that the game is considered 'over', as it is on all other sites, but the main question is what will be done about the stats accumulated by the players that have played in that game?  Some sites say yes, as long as the game is suspended, but stats are cancelled if the game is ppd.

[Stousers]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

OH SHIT!

Too funny, i thought you were a gonner man glad to see you didnt run off, had not heard from you in a couple days. I apologize i couldn't enter the NHL pool last time we played and Id be more then happy to make up for it with a .2 NBA and 2 .2 NHL pools, at worst its a sweep cause the NBA pools are a cake walk against you and Im assuming a split with the NHL but could go your way, either way im over 500 against you in all pools we have both been in together and it feels good so lets throw some more W's on the chalk board under fantasycoin and ill  go anytime you want, any sport...

Haha yeah just away for the weekend. Look for me in the lobby's. I'll lead... You can follow... Very similar to how our points will look tomorrow

[CoinDrafts.com]

New features for Tuesday's contests:

• NBA Friday 03/21 - The Baller ฿1 Guaranteed Contest - Entry fee of only ฿0.005!
• Daily satellites to the The Baller ฿1 - Free ticket added to every 10-man satellite

[goose20]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

You're a brave soul Stousrs.
I gotta say, fantasycoin rates pretty high in my books - consistent top/high finishes.

Good luck to you both

[fantasycoin]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

You're a brave soul Stousrs.
I gotta say, fantasycoin rates pretty high in my books - consistent top/high finishes.

Good luck to you both

Thanks goose I appreciate that, there seems to be a quite a few good DFS players already on this site, Iv had a few lucky picks and some horrible ones, its a blast for sure and i live for the smack talk and at least stousers seems to have high hopes and really reaching for the stars.....lol.

[Stousers]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

You're a brave soul Stousrs.
I gotta say, fantasycoin rates pretty high in my books - consistent top/high finishes.

Good luck to you both

Thanks goose I appreciate that, there seems to be a quite a few good DFS players already on this site, Iv had a few lucky picks and some horrible ones, its a blast for sure and i live for the smack talk and at least stousers seems to have high hopes and really reaching for the stars.....lol.

Yeah wow im lucky I even got my lineups in. Work got crazy and for a minute I thought youd be freerolling the nba. Actually had the wife fill out a lineup for me that I got to slightly alter right before cut off. Now that I changed a few im sure my wifes original picks will put crazy points up.

[goose20]

Fantasycoin don't mean to call you out but last time you said that we would do 1 nba .1 and 1 nhl .1 pool you only entered the nba pool I was in.... Obv you declined to enter the nhl with me as you are clearly an inferior drafter on the ice. How about tom we do an nhl and nba both h/u .2 btc and you stick to it this time??

You're a brave soul Stousrs.
I gotta say, fantasycoin rates pretty high in my books - consistent top/high finishes.

Good luck to you both

Thanks goose I appreciate that, there seems to be a quite a few good DFS players already on this site, Iv had a few lucky picks and some horrible ones, its a blast for sure and i live for the smack talk and at least stousers seems to have high hopes and really reaching for the stars.....lol.

Yeah wow im lucky I even got my lineups in. Work got crazy and for a minute I thought youd be freerolling the nba. Actually had the wife fill out a lineup for me that I got to slightly alter right before cut off. Now that I changed a few im sure my wifes original picks will put crazy points up.

Lol..I'd say you're not 'lucky' cause you got your picks in - I say lucky for having such a cool WIFE.

Tell which were your wife's picks that you kept?

[Kyraishi]

Lol yesterday's NBA freeroll fp was low, if I wasn't here the first would have 258fp. xD