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Provided you draw a clear line between individual businesses implementing their own KYC procedures and nothing whatsoever being implemented at the protocol level, then that's fine. Businesses have laws they have to adhere to. Even if those laws are a direct cause of identity theft, by mandating that companies store a vast trove of customers' personally identifiable and financially sensitive information for hackers to then steal. Yay for dumb laws! |
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July 24, 2018, 11:37:39 AM |
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When hackers steal my sensitive personal data stored by a company,I think that I have the right to sue that company for compensation.Those companies have to maintain a strong level of online defence and be responsible for any break in their security.Those KYC laws are dumb,but there`s no better system for indentifying suspicious people.
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avtonomro
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July 24, 2018, 11:38:21 AM |
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Why do you want to introduce KYC for a decentralized technology?
I can't get your point, seriously.
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daicavung
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July 24, 2018, 11:45:14 AM |
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It is too late for KYC to be too late, because the current BTC coin has too many people and they can not do it for now, so KYC is only for new coins.
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Xester
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July 24, 2018, 11:45:39 AM |
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Though having a compliance on KYC and AML is against the decentralized nature of bitcoin but still having KYC and AML compliance will help bitcoin establish a solid foundation on every nation. With this compliance more people will be joining bitcoin since it is already legal and they will feel safe. This will also increase bitcoins value on the long run. |
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July 24, 2018, 11:54:16 AM |
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verification of personality is very good! but do not forget that the popularity gained bitcoin - it is because of its anonymity! this is the main advantage of bitcoin !!!! in any case, this verification can be circumvented by someone else's documents! We need that there was a powerful, common base of personal verification! In any case, we need regulation, the only way to safely enter this market is big money!
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July 24, 2018, 11:59:03 AM |
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This is great assurance that you will have the capability in securing the transaction and a knowledge that you can truly trust the person you are having a transaction with, But this can take away the animosity of someone that are using Cryptocurrency but they will surely have a secured transaction between themselves, I really think this is a great idea so Cryptocurrency can sure brought up to the ones that are not well known to it,
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newinquiry
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July 24, 2018, 12:07:25 PM |
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Why we need to do KYC compliance for bitcoin because its a decentralized currency and if we do KYC then what guarantee is our personal info never be leaked or hack. Now many investors hold bitcoins in their wallets and all never want to do KYC compliance because they don't wanna reveal How much bitcoin they are holding. so there is no need to do KYC for any private company.
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July 24, 2018, 04:43:00 PM |
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KYC Compliance reduces Bitcoin liquidity, making fiat <-> Bitcoin exchange a bit complicated, its an artificial market barrier that prevents wide Bitcoin adoption and affects not only potential malicious users.
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richardsNY
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July 24, 2018, 06:57:41 PM |
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Though having a compliance on KYC and AML is against the decentralized nature of bitcoin
It really isn't. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin at all since all these laws are meant to hit businesses authorities can extract precious information from. In all cases you can avoid dealing with them if you find these laws to be ridiculous and privacy breaching, which they are. This is exactly what made local crypto markets boom especially in the last year, because people just aren't interested in going through all this nonsense. Positivity out of the way -- buying coins locally isn't without risks as we have seen and heard about this year. People holding crypto are more than ever a walking target due to the increased value and popularity. |
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July 24, 2018, 09:39:40 PM |
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Checking KYC when investing in ICO or on exchanges and exchangers has nothing to do with the legalization of bitcoins. In itself, the KYC test contradicts and damages the decentralized nature of bitcoin and the principle of its anonymity. Therefore, if possible, this check should be avoided, especially when investing in ICO projects or participating in them as participants in the generous ICO campaign. |
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Oceat
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July 24, 2018, 11:45:31 PM |
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Why do you want to introduce KYC for a decentralized technology?
I can't get your point, seriously.
Some businesses do require KYC for their own safety and procedure of identifying each and everyone who purchase the product to them. It is required to most businesses to avoid money laundering so that they can trace whose person is purchasing the product. But when speaking about of Bitcoin as a decentralized digital currency, it is a bit odd to combine both decentralized and centralized establishment. They should have a very good defense system for hackers that can breach their network to steal every personal information of their clients. |
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dark1234
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July 25, 2018, 08:27:19 PM |
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KYC is very private and I really agree if it will help the development of more efficient bitcoin again, but .... as long as they have to be responsible for the security of KYC itself because we as bitcoin users still have a fear of the security of our personal data |
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Harlot
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July 25, 2018, 09:09:42 PM |
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If the government is actually the one requiring KYC and not some ICO developers gathering and selling data then I am cool with it. You see KYC as of right now is being abused by some ICO developers and they are actually selling our data in other devs that will also planning on having their own token promotion, this is clearly a violation of our privacy and is not tolerable for us consumers. The government also needs to monitor this kinds of activities so that this kinds of attempts won't happen.
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daviddaniels (OP)
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July 26, 2018, 10:41:38 AM |
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Why we need to do KYC compliance for bitcoin because its a decentralized currency and if we do KYC then what guarantee is our personal info never be leaked or hack. Now many investors hold bitcoins in their wallets and all never want to do KYC compliance because they don't wanna reveal How much bitcoin they are holding. so there is no need to do KYC for any private company.
This is exactly the reason why governments are not allowing it. Atleast for new coins, this should be done so that all may enjoy benefits of crypto. |
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July 26, 2018, 11:21:26 AM |
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If the government is actually the one requiring KYC and not some ICO developers gathering and selling data then I am cool with it. You see KYC as of right now is being abused by some ICO developers and they are actually selling our data in other devs that will also planning on having their own token promotion, this is clearly a violation of our privacy and is not tolerable for us consumers. The government also needs to monitor this kinds of activities so that this kinds of attempts won't happen.
This is the main reason why I'm really afraid of. It can be really exploited and we don't know if those ICO projects are really protecting their investors or bounty hunters who submitted their personal data. We all know that if it went to the hands of criminals, they can do anything with our information, without us knowing and its gonna be late till we find out that our identify has been stolen and exploited by them. There's already an ICO wherein the the personal data has been leaked, so the risk is already proven. |
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July 26, 2018, 07:10:07 PM |
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When hackers steal my sensitive personal data stored by a company,I think that I have the right to sue that company for compensation.Those companies have to maintain a strong level of online defence and be responsible for any break in their security.Those KYC laws are dumb,but there`s no better system for indentifying suspicious people.
But how would you know which exact company your data got compromised. A lot of people have accounts on several platforms and you fill your details on all of them because you need to have unrestricted access to the services being provided. Hacks still happen today even to reputable exchange sites but because it does not involve movement of funds and not getting the right media attention, it looks as if nothing happened. I really don't have issues with sites asking for KYCs but concern is who is ensuring they themselves are not compromising on the information entrusted to them and it being uniform rather than arbitrary request that we see on every platform. The moment that is addressed, I think its all going to be for the best. |
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Harlot
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July 26, 2018, 07:49:49 PM |
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If the government is actually the one requiring KYC and not some ICO developers gathering and selling data then I am cool with it. You see KYC as of right now is being abused by some ICO developers and they are actually selling our data in other devs that will also planning on having their own token promotion, this is clearly a violation of our privacy and is not tolerable for us consumers. The government also needs to monitor this kinds of activities so that this kinds of attempts won't happen.
This is the main reason why I'm really afraid of. It can be really exploited and we don't know if those ICO projects are really protecting their investors or bounty hunters who submitted their personal data. We all know that if it went to the hands of criminals, they can do anything with our information, without us knowing and its gonna be late till we find out that our identify has been stolen and exploited by them. There's already an ICO wherein the the personal data has been leaked, so the risk is already proven. That is why even though a lot of people are against it I still want to see the cryptocurrency market be regulated specially the exchanges who will be putting of newly listed ICOs. We should push for a more tougher kind of screening process for this kinds of ICOs as we really are risking our information eoth their KYCs. Unlike what stock brokers are doing the personal data we are giving to them is bind by law to only be seen by them and they cannot share it to others as they will be breaking our client privilege and most importantly our privacy. |
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Tylev
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July 26, 2018, 08:32:13 PM |
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I do not see that the KYC test has a positive effect on the process of legalizing bitcoin by states. The fact that during confidential transactions with confidential information will disappear and most of its holders will be known to the state for collection of taxes, will not solve the main problems of bitcoin for states - its decentralized and unmanageable nature and its great volatility. It is these two factors - uncontrollability and volatility of bitcoin that are the cause of the bad process of legalizing bitcoin and all the crypto-currency from the states. |
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