Pangolin Whatsminer M10 - 33TH at 2145W

[minefarmbuy]

I guess they haven't responded to our requests. :/

Hopefully we can list but since we've never done business with them before we'll be pretty conservative working with a company that can't reply for weeks and counting.  

Edit: Selfishly I want one. How many of these is safe for my 240v 30A line? 2-3 units?

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[HagssFIN]

@minefarmbuy
2 units.

[minefarmbuy]

Thanks HF. I guess a good winter project will be rerunning thicker gauge. I'd like to have 4 units per line. Simple math would make that 60A and 6 gauge wire I imagine.

We'll probably have to wait for units to land and reviews to come out before we web it. I think sales has placed a few special requests already though. Production might be tight for them since their second batch is listed two months out from September batch.

[Raymond_B]

Thanks HF. I guess a good winter project will be rerunning thicker gauge. I'd like to have 4 units per line. Simple math would make that 60A and 6 gauge wire I imagine.

We'll probably have to wait for units to land and reviews to come out before we web it. I think sales has placed a few special requests already though. Production might be tight for them since their second batch is listed two months out from September batch.

Honestly it would most likely be more economical to run additional 30A circuits. PDUs are cheaper, wiring is cheaper, etc.

[vincl]

I guess they haven't responded to our requests. :/

Hopefully we can list but since we've never done business with them before we'll be pretty conservative working with a company that can't reply for weeks and counting.  

Edit: Selfishly I want one. How many of these is safe for my 240v 30A line? 2-3 units?

haha we are in the same boat. my company want to order samples, too but they dont reply on wechat xD i think they dont want our money

[mgoz]

haha we are in the same boat. my company want to order samples, too but they dont reply on wechat xD i think they dont want our money

Tried getting a quote in past for investor with 1,500 megawatts and no response. Probably for the best though cause everyone else's gear prices plummeted shortly after.

[elokk]

Their website is http://www.pangolinminer.com

Thanks, whatsminer.net looks like a scam site ftw.

If you're comfortable PM'ing contact info to your rep there please do. Still hitting a brick wall with them.

from what I understand, pangolinminer is based in Hong Kong so all warranty claims will need to be shipped there

pangolin miner is NOT the manufacturer. ShenMa/Bitewei Is the Manufacturer and run by former Bitmain engineer Yang Zuo Xing

whatsminer.net is the US reseller based in Ft Lauderdale, FL so if you are a US buyer this would suit you better for warranty claims

[mgoz]

First batch pre-order shipment date changed from 09/20/2018 to 10/25/2018. Was thinking about grabbing one when delivery was September, but most likely won't now.

[philipma1957]

First batch pre-order shipment date changed from 09/20/2018 to 10/25/2018. Was thinking about grabbing one when delivery was September, but most likely won't now.

I may get a test unit around sept 18-21.

[HagssFIN]

from what I understand, pangolinminer is based in Hong Kong so all warranty claims will need to be shipped there

pangolin miner is NOT the manufacturer. ShenMa/Bitewei Is the Manufacturer and run by former Bitmain engineer Yang Zuo Xing

whatsminer.net is the US reseller based in Ft Lauderdale, FL so if you are a US buyer this would suit you better for warranty claims

Yes.

Pangolinminer has an official joint venture with Whatsminer,
they are a overseas distributor. https://pangolinminer.com/cooperate/

I may get a test unit around sept 18-21.

Same here. I have not heard about delays. Maybe they sold out the first batch?

[mgoz]

Same here. I have not heard about delays. Maybe they sold out the first batch?

They changed the dates everywhere for first batch and lowered the price by $100. I guess only those who placed an order for September 20 would know if there's a delay or not. Hopefully it doesn't end up like the M3 pre-order where they are unprofitable by the time you receive them.

[Biffa]

Support says the September batch is sold out and the Oct/Nov batches are new runs

[FatAnt]

whatsminer.net is the US reseller based in Ft Lauderdale, FL so if you are a US buyer this would suit you better for warranty claims

I have had half of my M3's (1 of 2) go bad. Dead hash board.  After initiating warranty claim on their website, you're directed to a Telegram channel for support via TeamViewer.  The Florida address seems useless.  I asked about sending to FL address, but was directed to ship failed board to China (confusing address has to be 100% correct or they claim to not know where it went).  They eventually found it and sent a replacement - turnaround time is about a month.

They could really improve their reputation by getting their Florida address operational for North American support.
 Even if their hash boards  have a high failure rate, if they can get the turnaround time closer to a week instead of a month it'd still be worth it.

[HagssFIN]

Support says the September batch is sold out and the Oct/Nov batches are new runs

Ok so it means that my guess was right.

[mgoz]

Support says the September batch is sold out and the Oct/Nov batches are new runs

November batch was always listed. Anyone here order a September batch? I see them listed still on whatsminer.net also with October batch.

[Gimberg]

Doesn't anyone thinks it's a bit weird that GMO's miner B3 is an 7nm architecture, does ~33TH@3300w and the Whatsminer M10 is at 16nm and does ~33TH@2100w?

I'm a bit sceptic 

[Chris_Farms]

Obviously the size of the chip isnt the only factor in power efficiency.  Keep in mind the guy behind WHatsminer M10 is the famous engineer behind the Antminer S7 & S9 chips who was and still is one of the most reliable and effective chips on the market since 2016.

I wouldnt be surprised if he managed to make is 16nm chip design even more efficient.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Doesn't anyone thinks it's a bit weird that GMO's miner B3 is an 7nm architecture, does ~33TH@3300w and the Whatsminer M10 is at 16nm and does ~33TH@2100w?

Not weird at all. GMO tried to be first out of the gate using 7nm and as a result their designs are based on highly immature process technology. As is always the case the results -- suck. Whatsminer simply repeated what they did in the past - wait for the processes behind any given node size to mature and then take advantage of the usually very substantial performance gains seen vs results from 1st gen production or in the case of GMO what was not even that. GMO was touting their proof-of-principle/engineering testing chips as production items.

[philipma1957]

Doesn't anyone thinks it's a bit weird that GMO's miner B3 is an 7nm architecture, does ~33TH@3300w and the Whatsminer M10 is at 16nm and does ~33TH@2100w?

I'm a bit sceptic  

the m3  does 160 watts per 1th

the s7 does 250 watts per 1th

same guy  made these chips he did a chip that uses 64%  of the s7

so the s9 does 100 watts per 1th

so the m10  at 64% of that would be 64 watts per 1th

since the same guy  built or helped to build all of these chips  it makes sense to me this chip/m10 could do 60 to 70 watts a th at an efficiency setting

It is why HagssFIN and I are eager to run tests on them.

At the moment  the most efficient miner  I have tested is  the Innosilicon T2Turbo  I get 80-82 watts a th on efficient setting.
If this gear drops me under 70 I will be getting it in larger amounts then just 1 unit.

[Mammon is back!]

Lol, and yet another worthless miner! However people seems to be fine with these products and keep buying

33TH does 0,0012 BTC a day, and again presume you have FREE energy (however, we all have to pay this...)
0,0012 x 365 = 0,438 BTC a year. Roughly taken the hashpower (at least) triples every year, so earnings \3
0,438\3= 0,146 BTC in the first 365 days.
Next year = 0,146\3 = 0,0486 BTC in the second year, makes a total of 0,1946 BTC to mine with this -thing- in 2 years.
(and with FREE energy)

1788 dollar + 117 dollar shipping = 1905 dollar = 0,2985 BTC

Total LOSS in 2 years with FREE energy: -0,09 BTC!

WOW, what a marvellous product


I think we have past the point that buying miners with Crypto is no longer viable.
I stick to my BTC and will not buy any miners if even ROI cannot be made.
Why buy this kinda miners and lower the amount of BTC (LTC\ETH\etc.) you hodl?

You're even better of buying BTC now and skip mining!