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July 28, 2018, 12:15:54 AM
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before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.
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July 28, 2018, 12:22:45 AM
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Of course, there are so many guys just wanna blame every mistake to bounty hunter while they didn't know anything. LOL. I don't think 1 - 2% of total supply amount can affect too much to price of any token. There are so many other factors affect to price of token from ICO project like down trend, whales, shark, investors,......but bounty hunter is always the target to be blamed. LOL.
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July 28, 2018, 12:24:26 AM
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ICOs do not earn anymore. It does not make sense to invest. Two of the three ICOs are in harm. There is no sense of being an early investor anymore.
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July 28, 2018, 01:18:03 AM
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before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

maybe your opinion is right,
but, bounty hunters will make the price down, but for a while
now most of project down, when listed on exchange from the beginning,,
and most of bounty rewards will be distributed after the token already listed on exchange

 

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July 28, 2018, 02:18:33 AM
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so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

I Totally agree with you. Don't blame us (Bounty Hunter).
We are only supporter that help the project grow and spread.

Bounty hunters will make the price down, but for a while
now most of project down, when listed on exchange from the beginning,,
and most of bounty rewards will be distributed after the token already listed on exchange

Yes, that is the solution for Us, that always blamed after price going down.
But, sometimes will be problem to Bounty hunter.
We get the coin after the coin price going down.
So, we only get little USD reward.

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July 28, 2018, 03:11:55 AM
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Of course, there are so many guys just wanna blame every mistake to bounty hunter while they didn't know anything. LOL. I don't think 1 - 2% of total supply amount can affect too much to price of any token. There are so many other factors affect to price of token from ICO project like down trend, whales, shark, investors,......but bounty hunter is always the target to be blamed. LOL.

You are right, and in my opinion, sometimes from the developer who also sells Token / Coin hinnga the price is down deliberately unnoticed by others.
but not all developers.
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July 28, 2018, 03:21:05 AM
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Yes, you are absolutely right. Many investors who buy tokens in the ICO at a discount of 50 percent, immediately after listing this token on the exchange, sell them and receive huge profits. From this, the rate of this token falls. In addition, it must also be taken into account that the ICO team, in order to increase interest in its token, intentionally overstates the value of its tokens and when they appear on the exchange, they immediately fall in price.

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July 28, 2018, 03:25:34 AM
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Bonus is the biggest attraction to attract investors. Not all investors will choose to sell it, but most of them do sell because it tempted with the profit to be generated.
Bounty hunters have no great effect. in my opinion from a very small allocation when compared to the allocation of bonuses to investors is not comparable. The decline in prices here has many factors, such as the FUD that triggered investors to sell all the assets that he had, and the decline in prices that occur because the sale of these assets trigger other people to sell all the assets he has as well.

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July 28, 2018, 05:14:26 AM
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I believed that the contributors of ICOs price falls down after the token were unlock to the market are 1st was the investors because of their huge bonuses and they purchased their tokens at the cheaper price, then 2nd  the bounties in which we can't blame them because they have joined the bounty because they need the money as their source of other income and Finally i just heard that the ICO owners are already selling a huge amount of their tokens too for them to recover the expenses and to ensure their profits.
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July 28, 2018, 08:54:32 AM
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before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.
I can't agree more, therefore I'm not interested with ICO projects that provide big discounts/bonuses on their pre-sales/private-sales "unless they have a way to avoid investors who dump bonus coins in the short term" eg: Bonus coins will be distributed to investors after 2 months ICO ended

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July 28, 2018, 09:26:04 AM
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Of course, there are so many guys just wanna blame every mistake to bounty hunter while they didn't know anything. LOL. I don't think 1 - 2% of total supply amount can affect too much to price of any token. There are so many other factors affect to price of token from ICO project like down trend, whales, shark, investors,......but bounty hunter is always the target to be blamed. LOL.

You are right, and in my opinion, sometimes from the developer who also sells Token / Coin hinnga the price is down deliberately unnoticed by others.
but not all developers.

maybe yes, if the dev team sell their token earlier,, because they didn't reach the hard cap then they need more funds to develop the project too
because the project only hit the soft cap
but, bonus is the main issue,, sometimes in private sale bonus up to 100% so, you buy 1 you get 1

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July 28, 2018, 09:45:11 AM
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Most ico coins are doomed, they will eventually fail because there were no good structure even in ico stage as only goal was to raise money as much as possible from investors  Smiley

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July 28, 2018, 10:14:30 AM
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before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

I agree with you. The investor is drained the price in the projects and without bounty. It's just convenient to blame the bounty hunter. Huge bonuses as insurance against losses. Fix the profit. Look at ENDOR. Bounty wasn't. According to the initial information, there were no bonuses either. Later, when the sale was closed, it turned out about 70% of the bonus for privat-sale. Now look at the price chart. Who's dumped?)
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July 28, 2018, 10:33:44 AM
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The bonus thing is a way to get more investors and that's okay because there's a time of period on how long they can invest.

And another thing is that not all ICOs who are offering bonuses becomes successful.

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July 28, 2018, 11:02:26 AM
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you don't need to apologize for a speculation that you have, even if it is wrong. as long as you have reasonable explanation for it.

and it sounds about right to me.
but it is only one of the many reasons why ICO prices get dumped like this. the main reason at least is the fact that everyone wants to get their money out as fast as possible. they know that they have made a bet and they want to know the result of their gambler as soon as possible and they don't have any faith in the thing they invested in at all. so they dump as fast as they can and the prices crash like this. and since there is no demand for these tokens they can never go back up again.

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July 28, 2018, 11:29:06 AM
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I agree you raised some great points about the huge bonuses been giving out by ICOs. However, I also think some people looking for quick $$ and if the ICO don't deliver that straightaway they freak out and sell at market price.

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July 28, 2018, 12:00:04 PM
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before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.
Exactly. Token prices are not affected by bounty hunters. % for rewards only 1-2%. And prices are down because of the investors buying ICO. Surely, they will sell it all when the token is listed at some exchange to make a profit. Since they never hold the ICO token

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July 28, 2018, 01:18:52 PM
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With such a low allocation to bounty hunters they are not the main dumpers. Pre-sale investors do the bulk of the dumping for a quick easy profit as soon as it hits the exchanges

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July 28, 2018, 01:36:47 PM
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If there is no demand, it will either way decrease though there is speculation, exchange listings or coin burn etc. There must be a very solid demand for the coin.

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July 28, 2018, 02:10:55 PM
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before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

This is the fact, ICO price drops because of the bounty hunters, imagine there are lots of participants in the bounty and they sell all their coins what would the effect of the actions in the market, of course it will become red.
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