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August 07, 2018, 03:48:42 PM
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Yes, you can avail this opportunity. Investors can transact without fees wi the assistance of the honeypot. But you cannot take such benefits all the time. It is possible when there is low traffic
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August 07, 2018, 03:52:43 PM
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Is it possible? but someone said that this is possible to do that but I never know this can be done or not.But we can our bitcoins without any fee between two coinbase accounts this is the trick I know until,if anyone don't know this just try it.

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August 07, 2018, 04:04:02 PM
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Ethereum tokens can be send without fees but that solely depends on the network traffic. However, you'll need a certain amount of gas to do so. You can also find various articles on Medium, Reddit which has detailed information of the full process.
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August 07, 2018, 04:08:45 PM
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So far I know it is possible to not pay fees for transaction with Ethereum. Though I do not properly make out this entire thing so I just shared what u know. You better do some legit research regarding this.
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August 07, 2018, 08:23:00 PM
Last edit: August 07, 2018, 09:59:26 PM by dhemasm
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So erc 827 is a continuation of ECR 825? Anyway thanks for the information, I see the github is still open and this is very interesting.

I'm really curious about this, See this honeypot address 0x627306090abab3a6e1400e9345bc60c78a8bef57 There is a 400k Contentbox token or around $10k USD. It's really very interesting if ERC 827 can be used in the coming project or i hope eth have feature like Bitcoin CPFP feature (Although it seems impossible to happen). Maybe I'm naive but who doesn't want free $10k USD  Grin.
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August 07, 2018, 08:36:04 PM
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I doubt it if it could be possible to send ETH or any other token and boycott the transaction fee. I would not use until I can see evidences of it being genuine. For now I am using the normal wallet that charges me for transaction fees. I use these two wallets mostly for day to day transfer of tokens as they are more trusted, reliable and easy to use :
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August 07, 2018, 08:46:19 PM
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I'm here to learn and to be sincere with myself, I learnt so many things I did not believe could be possible. Kudos to the op for bringing this issue and many thanks to those I that did justice to the question.
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August 07, 2018, 08:56:28 PM
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When the network is not much congested then the fees of transaction will reduce but to send it without a fee is not possible since from my experience even transactions that couldn't goes through still attract gas prices.
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August 07, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
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Yes That is possible, If the network is not too full like today. It's just not completely zero fee transactions, you can check here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x17224490348c17eb3bf7f17679f7b42b021b1ff9361b0670eccb24383f54f507 And the blog about zero fee here https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b

On this website https://ethgasstation.info/ you can see how many gas are recommended and also how much lowest gas is mined by the miner (currently around 0.1 gwei) But the chance for confirmation is very low.

Now for token, Actually I am still learning and don't really understand yet but i think that is also possible unfortunately I haven't found a way. You can see this transaction hash, he sent with 0 fees and i think depending on the token structure itself.
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You can read here for the smart contract: https://www.coindesk.com/information/ethereum-smart-contracts-work/
And here for erc-20 https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-erc20-and-what-does-it-mean-ethereum/

Last thing, you can try reading the discussion about ERC865. So this will implement pay fee with tokens rather than eth, check here:
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/865

Ethereum is very interesting to learn, Trust me and Good luck!!

Thank you very much for your information. It is very helpful for me. I have just learned about sending ETH and Tokens, and trying with lowest the fees but haven't find the way to do it. Ethereum is really interesting but it's also difficult to understand. I hope I can find the solution soon. One more time, thanks and good luck to you.
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August 07, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
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Yes That is possible, If the network is not too full like today. It's just not completely zero fee transactions, you can check here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x17224490348c17eb3bf7f17679f7b42b021b1ff9361b0670eccb24383f54f507 And the blog about zero fee here https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b

On this website https://ethgasstation.info/ you can see how many gas are recommended and also how much lowest gas is mined by the miner (currently around 0.1 gwei) But the chance for confirmation is very low.

Now for token, Actually I am still learning and don't really understand yet but i think that is also possible unfortunately I haven't found a way. You can see this transaction hash, he sent with 0 fees and i think depending on the token structure itself.
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You can read here for the smart contract: https://www.coindesk.com/information/ethereum-smart-contracts-work/
And here for erc-20 https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-erc20-and-what-does-it-mean-ethereum/

Last thing, you can try reading the discussion about ERC865. So this will implement pay fee with tokens rather than eth, check here:
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/865

Ethereum is very interesting to learn, Trust me and Good luck!!

It's could be hard these days to send transaction with 0.1 gwei, if it manages to go through, it might take days for the transactions to be confirmed, for me I don't think it is wrong to send your tokens and pay less than a dollars for the transfer fees, after-all exchanges charges higher for their withdrawal

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August 07, 2018, 10:51:10 PM
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Token honeypot is very famous for the "ETH" scam what I can remember. People send shared private key of honeypot tokens and they gets cheated by the scam to transfer gas for transaction. Honeypot, as far as I know does not support zero fee transactions. If anyone know legitimate info, I would like to be enlightened.
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August 08, 2018, 12:02:56 PM
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Thank you very much for your information. It is very helpful for me.

With pleasure! Ethereum is very interesting to learn, I'm serious! I just tried to make a token on ropsten and might try the post on github later.
It's could be hard these days to send transaction with 0.1 gwei,

Few days before, gas price was very low (0.9-1.1 Gwei ~) and ethgas gave information that the miner received no lowest than 0.1 gwei. So it possible but will be very long to be confirmed (maybe 1 day?), Who knows Roll Eyes
If anyone know legitimate info, I would like to be enlightened.

You can see here 0x627306090abab3a6e1400e9345bc60c78a8bef57, I tried sending from 0.0001 ETH to 0.00004 ETH to the honeypot address About 10 times.

At 0.00004 there is an interval of about 10 minutes because it looks like the script / bot does not send eth at that value (I've tried it)but after 10 minutes the script / bot send that eth and try it about 3-5 times at this value (I send with 1.5 Gwei + 24000 GAS). Sorry for my bad englsih anyway.
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August 08, 2018, 12:04:29 PM
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Yes That is possible, If the network is not too full like today. It's just not completely zero fee transactions, you can check here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x17224490348c17eb3bf7f17679f7b42b021b1ff9361b0670eccb24383f54f507 And the blog about zero fee here https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b

On this website https://ethgasstation.info/ you can see how many gas are recommended and also how much lowest gas is mined by the miner (currently around 0.1 gwei) But the chance for confirmation is very low.

Now for token, Actually I am still learning and don't really understand yet but i think that is also possible unfortunately I haven't found a way. You can see this transaction hash, he sent with 0 fees and i think depending on the token structure itself.
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0x878acd6f359e0d05352eafaf137825da6ff21ba8037b2ebcb6bc7c83f11abd23

You can read here for the smart contract: https://www.coindesk.com/information/ethereum-smart-contracts-work/
And here for erc-20 https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-erc20-and-what-does-it-mean-ethereum/

Last thing, you can try reading the discussion about ERC865. So this will implement pay fee with tokens rather than eth, check here:
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/865

Ethereum is very interesting to learn, Trust me and Good luck!!
Thank you for your suggestion, although I usually do not have too much trading volume, but I think the handling fee is a expenditure worth paying attention to!

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August 08, 2018, 12:24:02 PM
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I've never send Eth/Token without fee because you have to pay  the gas price. Sometimes, it's very congested  that I have to increase my gas price to make the transaction go through. First time to hear Honeypot, is it safe?

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August 08, 2018, 02:35:23 PM
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These days with the market bear happening, I don't think it is possible to obtain that kind of transaction any more, you can make transaction free on the NEO network, but not one ethereum network, gas is required for that.
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August 08, 2018, 02:39:05 PM
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Send eth / token without fee is it possible? After several times I saw the "Honeypot" address and there were several transactions sent without fees but succeeded, was that possible or did anyone know how?

I don't know it's possible or not. I have tried to send with "low fee" by reducing gas prices, but transactions are often not confirmed and successful. And if it succeeds, it takes a long time to send ETH.
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August 08, 2018, 09:51:53 PM
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Maybe you could do that in the past, but I don't think such a thing is possible these days, I don't think you can send tokens on ethereum network free of charge , I know you can do that on NEO network but not on ethereum.
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August 09, 2018, 09:31:01 PM
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I don't think it is possible to send tokens without fee, ethereum network requires gas fee to send transactions, and because of the high congestion on the network, miners might ignore transactions with low or no gas fee

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August 10, 2018, 10:44:05 PM
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Seriously, this is the first i am hearing that it is even thinking to send tokens in ethereum network without fees, I thought it is only neo that has such feature, I have never witnessed it before in ethereum network and i don't think it is doable.
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August 11, 2018, 01:27:51 AM
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Yes, it is possible to do a transaction without the fees with the help of honeypot. But that is only possible if the traffic is low. As much as I know, it's not possible at all.
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