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October 14, 2011, 10:54:53 PM
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Hello Community,
[Edit: see updated launch plans here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48598.0 ]

There has been rumors bubbling up today that our exchange, Crypto X Change, which launches this coming Monday, is somehow connected or involved with Solidcoin.

Categorically, we are in no way connected or involved with Solidcoin. Our exchange is Bitcoin-centric (our goal is to become the primary Bitcoin exchange).  We are also going to be supporting namecoin and litecoin as alternative chains, and as time goes on we'll evaluate new chains and consider them on a case by case basis. But in all cases, we stand fully behind Bitcoin. There are NO plans to integrate anything solidcoin-related at all, in any way.

It's understandable that community members are skeptical/suspicious of all motives and intentions of newcomers. We welcome your questions and shall work to earn your trust over time. Crypto X Change has been a significant investment for us. We're not going anywhere, and to be honest we're wildly excited for the future of this new currency.

If you need to investigate or "vet" us further, please do so, but please remain professional and civil.

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Crypto X Change

Crypto X Change Global Bitcoin Exchange - Deposit & Withdraw to and from Our Exchange now for a $5 Flat fee - No Wire Costs or Bank Fee's - 100% Automated Banking System & Extremely fast transfers. We can send out Withdraws to over 120 Currencies. www.cryptoxchange.com
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October 14, 2011, 11:00:29 PM
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Tis a nice change in tone over the previous guy you had runnin the forum account.

This display of caution has (somewhat) regained my trust.

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October 15, 2011, 01:52:30 AM
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Earlier today before this post I had about an hour conversation with Ken via their support chat. I am 100% convinced they have no association with Solidcoin. In fact they share the exact same concerns involving the Trusted Nodes, Bait & Switched 13 Million Pre Mined Coins, The Closed Source and a whole list of others....just like all of us.

Apparently Coinhunter would not reveal his true identity to Cryptoxchange which set off a red flag for them as well. The fact he is a fellow Aussie pulled no weight with them! LOL  Grin Grin Grin

and the fact they are supporting Bitcoin should be a huge sign they are not Solidcoin related at all. Coinhunter has a psycho-hate of Bitcoin.


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I lobbied hard for Litecoin and apparently they agreed that Litecoin is the only credible CPU only chain with no pre-mine, open source and a known developer. I hope you reach out to them ASAP. They are wanting pool information.

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This is great!  Thanks, at least a CPU based currency is in. Smiley
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October 15, 2011, 02:09:02 AM
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If you listen at all to BitcoinExpress you won't be in business long I have little doubt.  Hopefully the forum mods will validate that message is not faked.
http://solidcointalk.org/topic/293-as-close-to-proof-as-i-can-provide/page__view__findpost__p__2960
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October 15, 2011, 02:12:36 AM
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I assume this board is free since there is no issue having the GG,TBX,LTC,FBX trolls post here?

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October 15, 2011, 02:24:54 AM
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If you listen at all to BitcoinExpress you won't be in business long I have little doubt.  Hopefully the forum mods will validate that message is not faked.
http://solidcointalk.org/topic/293-as-close-to-proof-as-i-can-provide/page__view__findpost__p__2960
How? I can't view that image. And no, I won't register.

http://imageshack.us/f/845/btcxmessage.png/

I reported the message to the moderators, not sure who gets that.
Oh, that'd be theymos. And, by the way, that link STILL doesn't work.

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October 15, 2011, 02:26:08 AM
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If you listen at all to BitcoinExpress you won't be in business long I have little doubt.  Hopefully the forum mods will validate that message is not faked.
http://solidcointalk.org/topic/293-as-close-to-proof-as-i-can-provide/page__view__findpost__p__2960
How? I can't view that image. And no, I won't register.

http://imageshack.us/f/845/btcxmessage.png/

I reported the message to the moderators, not sure who gets that.
Oh, that'd be theymos. And, by the way, that link STILL doesn't work.

Maged, http://i.imgur.com/DTuLx.png

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Oh yeah, if its true it's shitty.  Lolcust needs to step in and deny/verify.

If it's true.  BCX could have just told you that to get you riled up.

However, can't the blockexplorer confirm any MultiMillion transactions?

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October 15, 2011, 02:27:20 AM
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I assume this board is free since there is no issue having the GG,TBX,LTC,FBX trolls post here?

All of those you mention are peer to peer (and as a bonus, open source) cryptocurrencies similar to bitcoin.  SC is a closed source, centralized exchange of... something, with the peer to peer component mostly as a faucet or smoke screen to hide its highly centralized nature.

In short, the others are alternate cryptocurrencies, while SC is not.
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October 15, 2011, 03:21:46 AM
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So, CryptoXchange, what are you going to do when BitcoinEXpress threatens to attack your exchange like he did to others before? Or did it happened already and that's why you are posting this?

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October 15, 2011, 03:26:04 AM
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So, CryptoXchange, what are you going to do when BitcoinEXpress threatens to attack your exchange like he did to others before? Or did it happened already and that's why you are posting this?

What does that have to do with the fact that SolidCoin is shit? Do you think they should support SolidCoin just because BCE may in fact be a Greater Internet Dickwad?
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October 15, 2011, 03:30:39 AM
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So, CryptoXchange, what are you going to do when BitcoinEXpress threatens to attack your exchange like he did to others before? Or did it happened already and that's why you are posting this?

What does that have to do with the fact that SolidCoin is shit? Do you think they should support SolidCoin just because BCE may in fact be a Greater Internet Dickwad?

has to do with the fact we all know he's an extorsionist who threatens alt currencies to get paid for not attacking them and that he already threatened exchanges before.

So, did it happened this time also? Maybe the 1 hour talk he had with tHem was more:
"Or you stop with Solidcoin on your exchange or I'll attack it and double spend on your exchange and ruin you"
and less:
"Solidcoin is a scam and blah blah blah"

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October 15, 2011, 03:31:46 AM
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So, CryptoXchange, what are you going to do when BitcoinEXpress threatens to attack your exchange like he did to others before? Or did it happened already and that's why you are posting this?

I will never attack a legit business and have zero desire or ambition to do anything with Cryptoxchange outside of helping them become a huge success.

It is the well disclosed facts about Solidcoin that contributed to their decision.

13 Million Pre-Mine - Check
Only CH's Word can't be spent - Check
Trusted Node Gateways - Check
CPF to CH - Check
Closed Source - Check
Peer<->Gateway - Check


I asked CryptoXchange, not you, you bag of shit...

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October 15, 2011, 03:39:39 AM
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psy, I wouldn't expect them to answer your question seeing how loaded it is.

I do wonder what kind of question that is though, why should threats of attacks not be taken seriously around these parts if that were the case at all, which I am pretty sure it is not.

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October 15, 2011, 03:43:15 AM
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I bet Crypto X Change are going to be thrilled when they come back on line and see what a clusterfuck this thread has become.  Why not let them speak to the motives behind their business decisions instead of trying to put words in their mouths?

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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October 15, 2011, 03:44:06 AM
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psy, I wouldn't expect them to answer your question seeing how loaded it is.

I do wonder what kind of question that is though, why should threats of attacks not be taken seriously around these parts if that were the case at all, which I am pretty sure it is not.

Because it happened before people just paying him up and shuting up about it... Are we supporting criminals now? Because extorsion is a crime. And this guy, from day to day, reveals himself as a criminal. The worst is that he's trying to make you all think that he's right in everything he does. And we all see what happens to people/entities who don't agree with him when he has the power to do something against said persons or entities.

I am also assuming Coinhunter's word just doesn't cut it.

Your word also just doesn't cut it anymore.

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October 15, 2011, 03:51:09 AM
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Because it happened before people just paying him up and shuting up about it... Are we supporting criminals now? Because extorsion is a crime.

So is fraud you go to push for that for CoinHunter/RealSolid as I do believe that is what the pump and dump scam he tried to get me involved in would be classified as.

No relation to what I'm asking. I don't care if Crypto X Change doesn't accept solidcoin, fine by me. They could also not accept BTC and only trade on namecoin and litecoin., and it would also be fine by me.

The point is that BCX is pushing all over the forum that it was because of him that Crypto X change rejected solidcoin. And we all know how BCX does the stuff he brags about... Most of times he does them by force.

I'm pretty sure that if Crypto X Change doesn't want to get involved with Solidcoin they should also not want to have any type of relationship with a criminal such as BCX.

Got it?

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October 15, 2011, 03:51:20 AM
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I think if anything, the desire to back away from the situation at all, at the least until the coin itself is more established and grounded, would be very wise for any start up going into this field. I mean, may god help them with Bitcoin scammers alone, then all the alt currency shit, I am very surprised they are supporting any alt coin, but they are a global exchange, and I'm sure if SolidCoin stays on top of things, overtime, it will be in their exchange of course.

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October 15, 2011, 04:04:18 AM
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So, CryptoXchange, what are you going to do when BitcoinEXpress threatens to attack your exchange like he did to others before? Or did it happened already and that's why you are posting this?

What does that have to do with the fact that SolidCoin is shit? Do you think they should support SolidCoin just because BCE may in fact be a Greater Internet Dickwad?

has to do with the fact we all know he's an extorsionist who threatens alt currencies to get paid for not attacking them and that he already threatened exchanges before.

So, did it happened this time also? Maybe the 1 hour talk he had with tHem was more:
"Or you stop with Solidcoin on your exchange or I'll attack it and double spend on your exchange and ruin you"
and less:
"Solidcoin is a scam and blah blah blah"

Extortion is a crime both in the US and in Australia and both countries have extradition treaties. I can assure you if he made a threat like that it would be passed on to the appropriate authorities.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/other/dfat/treaties/1976/10.html 

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October 15, 2011, 04:15:13 AM
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Please keep this on topic and stop with the personal attacks.


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October 15, 2011, 04:16:07 AM
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I am sure that the one thing that is confirmed to hurt real bad is the tax in Australia Sad
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