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February 23, 2014, 10:37:14 PM
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It's commendable that you want to do something but all your going to do is give people the false belief that they're going to get their money back.  They won't and the sooner people come to terms with that fact the sooner they can move on.  People got ripped off and the thief is long gone with the money.

Sure... the thief is long gone, and yeah ultimately: people did get ripped off.  I think everyone of the investors already realize that.  I doubt anyone at this point holds any illusions about what happened... there's no sugarcoating it.

But that doesn't mean the only option is to give up.  Sure, it is a valid a option, a simpler option.. you can always look at a situation and give up all hope.  Glass can be half empty or half full.  I tend to be a guy who believes in the latter.. Smiley

It doesn't cost anything more for the original investors than to watch what happens here.. it only costs my time (and the time of those who want to be involved)... Which although can be considered a "waste" in reality, it's not , because coding practice is never a waste.

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February 23, 2014, 10:37:39 PM
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Totally understood.

But following my gameplan, if we did a 100% premine and gave 20% to the scammed and set aside 80% for building the coin into something big.
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February 23, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
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UPDATE: realstackcoin images and icons for QT client pushed to git hub..

Still working on building windows client though.. taking half a day to install my VM and install all the dependencies.. :|

If anyone out there wants to do a build.. please go for it, the code is done at this point..

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February 24, 2014, 01:36:56 AM
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no IPCO ? im out!  Cheesy Cheesy
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February 24, 2014, 01:56:26 AM
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UPDATE: realstackcoin images and icons for QT client pushed to git hub..

Still working on building windows client though.. taking half a day to install my VM and install all the dependencies.. :|

If anyone out there wants to do a build.. please go for it, the code is done at this point..


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February 24, 2014, 02:03:56 AM
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Devs, if you think I can help, send me a PM, I will reply in a day or two. I am online during week days (Monday to early Friday) and I am usually offline on weekends (normally I'm off to a mountain retreat with the wife and kids.) My time zone is UTC+8 (Philippines, Manila, home to the founder of another alt-coin.)

I've handled and did escrow for way more than 70 BTC, (how much was the MOQ for avalon gen1 chips?), and everyone who has ever sold me anything has my home address. Even though the price of BTC back then was ten times lower, the amount of BTC was ten times more, so the equivalent fiat value is the same.

I also live by a code that goes something like: I do not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. That may look familiar to some of you. A cursory check on my background should reveal some other details, but that's off-topic already.

Many of us who invested did so in good faith. If we only get the same Real Stackcoins as the original plan, in a similarly designed coin, with almost identical parameters, then it sounds fair.

The original coin also had this parameter:
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Block Decrease Rate:  15% every month

So I was thinking and wondering how exactly how this 15% is implemented. Is it 15% of the 1M coin block every month (or every 30 day equivalent in normal block time of 2 minutes) ? Or is it 15% of the previous reward era? There is a significant difference with this distinction.

The first one will go something like this:
1    1,000,000.00
2    850,000.00
3    700,000.00
4    550,000.00
5    400,000.00
6    250,000.00
7    100,000.00
8 = some fixed value forever, OR it then decreases over time 15%

The second one will go something like this:
1    1,000,000.00
2    850,000.00
3    722,500.00
4    614,125.00
5    522,006.25
6    443,705.31
7    377,149.52
8    320,577.09
9    272,490.53
10    231,616.95
11    196,874.40
12    167,343.24


Both are identical until the second month. The first one decreases really fast and its up in the air what happens on the 8th month or maybe very low block reward.

My personal opinion is the second one. However, like many other similar fast decrease coins, I think there should be a final fixed forever block reward, maybe 10,000 coins, or even 1,000 coins.

Another note, as mentioned in my earlier post, is to credit the pre-mined IPCO coins over a longer period of time, and to only those in the first 2 rounds. The bonus was not part of the original plan.

My suggestion is 10% every week. If you invested and were supposed to get 100M STACK, then when the coin launches, you will get 10M STACK every week for the next 10 weeks.

This gives everyone at least 2 months before anything crazy happens and prevents an immediate dump. The weak hands will sell. Those of us who really believe in the coin will hold. Everyone else will do some trading or mining or whatever. Those who are late to claim, but do so, will eventually get their STACK. Those who don't claim within a reasonable period of time (maybe 10 weeks later? after the regular people have gotten all their coins) forfeit and gets proportionally distributed to the rest of the investors who have already claimed.

Anyone who does not even attempt a claim or unable to prove his undeniable ownership or control of the coins for 10 weeks ... I think that's a reasonable amount of time. But to be truly fair, it should be held in public escrow until the end of the year. Most should have made a claim then. If you have not yet, then maybe you are in a coma or something, sorry.

I also suggest a minimum transaction fee of 0.01 per 1000 bytes.

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February 24, 2014, 02:59:59 AM
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The original coin also had this parameter:
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Block Decrease Rate:  15% every month

So I was thinking and wondering how exactly how this 15% is implemented. Is it 15% of the 1M coin block every month (or every 30 day equivalent in normal block time of 2 minutes) ? Or is it 15% of the previous reward era? There is a significant difference with this distinction.

My personal opinion is the second one. However, like many other similar fast decrease coins, I think there should be a final fixed forever block reward, maybe 10,000 coins, or even 1,000 coins.

Opps.. Thanks for making me realize i made a mistake in my subsidy function.. i had it at halving every month (though that would be kind of interesting in itself).  

I think you are right we need to do 2).  Okay . fixed.  Non-optimal.. but fixed.


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I also suggest a minimum transaction fee of 0.01 per 1000 bytes.

I'll look into making that change.

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February 24, 2014, 03:10:34 AM
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The dev would be hilarious if he is in this again and scam the same ppl TWICE  Grin
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February 24, 2014, 05:26:45 AM
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The dev would be hilarious if he is in this again and scam the same ppl TWICE  Grin

How could we possibly do that if there's no IPCO -_-.
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February 24, 2014, 05:44:09 AM
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I contacted my favorite pool op, he should contact you guys soon. Naturally, I'll be mining on that pool.

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February 24, 2014, 06:49:28 AM
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I contacted my favorite pool op, he should contact you guys soon. Naturally, I'll be mining on that pool.

which pool is that if you don't mind me asking?

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February 24, 2014, 08:48:39 AM
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I contacted my favorite pool op, he should contact you guys soon. Naturally, I'll be mining on that pool.

which pool is that if you don't mind me asking?

I think I'll wait until he sets it up and opens for registration. But you can figure it out if you go through my post history.

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February 24, 2014, 10:48:32 AM
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A quick question --

What's going to happen to bumface's 'community coin' project? Has it been abandoned in favor of this?

I'm one of Stackcoin victims, and I'd like to keep track of all the projects the victims can claim stake from.

Is 'Real Stack Coin' the only one left?

To be honest, I really liked bumface's community coin idea.  I was really looking forward to it, and hoping it could be launched.  Undecided

Anyhow...

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February 24, 2014, 11:18:37 AM
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A quick question --

What's going to happen to bumface's 'community coin' project? Has it been abandoned in favor of this?

I'm one of Stackcoin victims, and I'd like to keep track of all the projects the victims can claim stake from.

Is 'Real Stack Coin' the only one left?

To be honest, I really liked bumface's community coin idea.  I was really looking forward to it, and hoping it could be launched.  Undecided

Anyhow...

Also think community coin is a great idea.. we should pursue it.  Not sure who's driving that though...


UPDATE: after a days worth of reinstalling VMs and downloading libs, finally have Windows client compiling (that was way too unnecessarily hard).  Just have to do QT/Linux QT/Mac builds.. shouldn't be long now.  Wallet is auto connecting to seed nodes, and accepting currently generated blocks (at 283 now)


From my native windows debug out..

Code:
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
received block 99557ecefca2a85c9d16464fc99ac5804f46ab783a0c591ce1f56b63cf2f70fa
Committing 1 changed transactions to coin database...
SetBestChain: new best=99557ecefca2a85c9d16464fc99ac5804f46ab783a0c591ce1f56b63c
f2f70fa  height=280  log2_work=28.134448  tx=285  date=2014-02-24 04:00:01 progr
ess=0.000148
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
received block 612bf42122f3fc32e41d87f05bf8d998a827a8ce1947f61e69c1d0a6ece3695a
Committing 1 changed transactions to coin database...
SetBestChain: new best=612bf42122f3fc32e41d87f05bf8d998a827a8ce1947f61e69c1d0a6e
ce3695a  height=281  log2_work=28.139573  tx=286  date=2014-02-24 04:00:25 progr
ess=0.000148
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
CreateNewBlock(): total size 1000
Running RealStackCoinMiner with 1 transactions in block (188 bytes)
received block e78ed461797696c055fed848b76123fc93bbe4c3739ecd4d054bcfbea042a8f3
Committing 1 changed transactions to coin database...
SetBestChain: new best=e78ed461797696c055fed848b76123fc93bbe4c3739ecd4d054bcfbea
042a8f3  height=282  log2_work=28.14468  tx=287  date=2014-02-24 04:00:50 progre
ss=0.000149
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
received block 5afe33636c6d3a9c33eef343e21cf7c4eb0f19dc6f79ed883c550424c34644d1
Committing 1 changed transactions to coin database...
SetBestChain: new best=5afe33636c6d3a9c33eef343e21cf7c4eb0f19dc6f79ed883c550424c
34644d1  height=283  log2_work=28.149769  tx=288  date=2014-02-24 04:01:32 progr
ess=0.000149

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February 24, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
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give REAL stack coin for Those who invested in scam stack coin 

It could be a history coin if it's happens



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Last edit: February 24, 2014, 05:07:40 PM by illiki23
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I cannot post in the community coin thread, maybe locked. (needs new name though, community coin taken).

But it should be pursued.

1.  A coin that pays out a percentage of each block to helping out scammed victims.

2.  Groups can petition to have they cause looked into and becoming registered as victims.

3.  Victims would be encouraged to mine the coin, and continue to mine even after paid off to help others.
  -  People would basically donate to help out by pointing their miners over - and they generate their own profit while doing so.

4.  We would support anti-scam initiatives.  We would do free background checking on any future IPO.  As well as provide reviews of escrow or assist in that.

The latin word names are cool, things dealing with helping others.

I commonly see people say "hey, those people where greedy so they deserved to get scammed."

This is not a good attitude.  We should help eachother as a community, to preserve our image.  There is a lot of people saying the crypto world is foul and scammy, but we can help change that.

IPOs can be great things.  But people are scared, some want to dismiss them altogether.  We just don't have good mechanisms in place.

"We put the altruism in alt-coin"

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February 24, 2014, 06:29:32 PM
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The original community thread was closed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482339.0

Is there another thread where people who were scammed should be posting what they sent into the original stackcoin scam?
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I cannot post in the community coin thread, maybe locked. (needs new name though, community coin taken).

But it should be pursued.

1.  A coin that pays out a percentage of each block to helping out scammed victims.

2.  Groups can petition to have they cause looked into and becoming registered as victims.

3.  Victims would be encouraged to mine the coin, and continue to mine even after paid off to help others.
  -  People would basically donate to help out by pointing their miners over - and they generate their own profit while doing so.

4.  We would support anti-scam initiatives.  We would do free background checking on any future IPO.  As well as provide reviews of escrow or assist in that.

The latin word names are cool, things dealing with helping others.

I commonly see people say "hey, those people where greedy so they deserved to get scammed."

This is not a good attitude.  We should help eachother as a community, to preserve our image.  There is a lot of people saying the crypto world is foul and scammy, but we can help change that.

IPOs can be great things.  But people are scared, some want to dismiss them altogether.  We just don't have good mechanisms in place.

"We put the altruism in alt-coin"

I fully agree and support that idea but as others already commented on my ideas it seems to be too much effort to do that, sadly.
I really liked the idea of a community coin, a sidemined coin, helping others and so on...
and not simply premining and releasing another coin without innovations and future.
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follow it!
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February 24, 2014, 07:21:02 PM
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i want to tks to the person's behind this Smiley if i can help in anyway just letme know im good making some videos for promoting it over social media Smiley i was one of the robed of .25btc

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