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April 28, 2014, 12:32:15 PM
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KingArbinV,
Is that possible to place a child board which I proposed with such ledger for Coin2.
Why not simply get it done help eliminate repeated doubt and remind Joel keeps the annually or bi annually update to ensure Coin2 transparency.
The Ledger board may represent Coin2 as real stand out from altcoins.
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April 28, 2014, 12:38:56 PM
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Hey guys, the max coins is 60,000,000, but in my wallet info says moneysupply 60458813. How does it work?

This coin is proof of stake, the longer they sit in your wallet the more coins you have. 60 mil is the amount that were started out with but everyones coins do this. 458,813 is the total of coins that have been generated with stake so far. Think of it like a savings account and your gaining interest on the amount your holding.


I have a question:

As we knew, the total mount of old C2 is 50 mil. But now, the new c2 has 60 mil in total.

as i understand what you said, KingArbinV, the surplus 1 mil is not used for the interests.

but where is the surplus 10 mil, and what will the surplus be used for?

can the c2 team make this clear please?

if we want to make a long run for C2.0, the transparency is necessary first.


 

Joel explained this a bunch of pages back, also we have been paying people to help with the fps, and also hired a 3D modeler off of Odesk, I know for a fact thats where some of it has gone, but that was recent, last 2 weeks. Here is the quote of joels post:

Quote
Here is a breakdown.
There was a total of 60 million coins

Total Pay Out:

Bter -32,683,224.91c2
Bittrex -13,250,001c2
Poloniex-2,012,539.89c2
Xnigma -33,237.479433c2
Coin2 board members and FPS game devs for all that they do - 1,500,000c2
Mac wallet - 500
Latecomers - 4,659,145.8c2
Total In My Wallet Right Now= 5,861,350.8.831

Future Payouts that are coming
Hashcows - 75,000c2
Coin2j dev - 100,000c2
Android wallet dev- 100,000c2
Point of Sale embedded Linux software - 750,000c2
Various other things that will be needed -1,000,000c2

So , Total of my wallet ~3 months-3,836,350.8.831


Actual Money spent so far on Coin2
Website Server - $20/month
Pool Server - $20 month
Mining Contract for transition -$200
Help with coding during transition -$200

Money made so far -$~600

Thats $600 dollars out of my pocket.  


Now if you look here http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Proof_of_Stake  you will see that if someone were to buy 51% of Coin2, they could (very unlikely) attack the network.  So I have to keep a decent amount in my own wallet to BE SURE this will never happen.  

In all fairness, you had a good question.  But, please remember.  I sent this to 1,000 people and kept 2.5% for myself. If I was going to sell out, I would have done so on the day it hit BTer.com. I have (2) decent jobs in the real world and I made a good bit on BTC late last year when it spiked to $1200.  My house is almost paid off, and I enjoy my life.   Im not going to sell.  In a perfect world, I would hope value of C2 rises to ~$10.  Then I could use the C2 in my wallet as collateral for a business loan to push Coin2 to the next level, wherever that may be.  This coin is my creation, passion and obsession.  I wouldnt sell my baby for fiat.  My baby(coin2) will be the new fiat soon enough.  And if I were to sell out now, I will have to live with the fact that I sold all mine for nothing.  You should feel that way to as well as the rest of the community.  So any questions just ask.  Thank you   Smiley

Hope this clears up for you. Also since you think its such a scam I will buy you out, how many you got?Huh So damn impatient, you want a scam go to comm coin, they cloned us, used to say so right on their OP. Don't compare the original to the dump coin. We have an actual hard working team here.

The only thing I asked for Joel and your team is that:

Does Joel have courage to send the surplus 10 mil C2 to a public address that can be supervised by all the C2 community?

The transparency of C2.0 needs the exact proofs, rather than the one-side words said by Joel and your team.


We at C2.0 community believe in the coin and believe in the team behind this coin.
they did not let the coin die when it was attacked by the worst way.
and we are happy to stick together

so please if you have doubt in coin2 , so many are happy to refund your investment, and I am one of them.
here is my C2 address if you want to send the 10K and I will send you the 0.1 BTC that you paid : CYzTKr2Ydce6A8dzv7q4dVCo3P1xBs9cPF

We like to see weak people like you leave us.

Please don't take it personal.

regards

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April 28, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
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KingArbinV,
Is that possible to place a child board which I proposed with such ledger for Coin2.
Why not simply get it done help eliminate repeated doubt and remind Joel keeps the annually or bi annually update to ensure Coin2 transparency.
The Ledger board may represent Coin2 as real stand out from altcoins.

i agree, and the question about transparency had been raised several times.. though i myself don't have any doubt about the dev and the team.. but please think investors wanted to protect their investments too.. and this thing may help to clear things to the new investors

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April 28, 2014, 12:46:45 PM
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Hey guys, the max coins is 60,000,000, but in my wallet info says moneysupply 60458813. How does it work?

This coin is proof of stake, the longer they sit in your wallet the more coins you have. 60 mil is the amount that were started out with but everyones coins do this. 458,813 is the total of coins that have been generated with stake so far. Think of it like a savings account and your gaining interest on the amount your holding.


I have a question:

As we knew, the total mount of old C2 is 50 mil. But now, the new c2 has 60 mil in total.

as i understand what you said, KingArbinV, the surplus 1 mil is not used for the interests.

but where is the surplus 10 mil, and what will the surplus be used for?

can the c2 team make this clear please?

if we want to make a long run for C2.0, the transparency is necessary first.


 

Joel explained this a bunch of pages back, also we have been paying people to help with the fps, and also hired a 3D modeler off of Odesk, I know for a fact thats where some of it has gone, but that was recent, last 2 weeks. Here is the quote of joels post:

Quote
Here is a breakdown.
There was a total of 60 million coins

Total Pay Out:

Bter -32,683,224.91c2
Bittrex -13,250,001c2
Poloniex-2,012,539.89c2
Xnigma -33,237.479433c2
Coin2 board members and FPS game devs for all that they do - 1,500,000c2
Mac wallet - 500
Latecomers - 4,659,145.8c2
Total In My Wallet Right Now= 5,861,350.8.831

Future Payouts that are coming
Hashcows - 75,000c2
Coin2j dev - 100,000c2
Android wallet dev- 100,000c2
Point of Sale embedded Linux software - 750,000c2
Various other things that will be needed -1,000,000c2

So , Total of my wallet ~3 months-3,836,350.8.831


Actual Money spent so far on Coin2
Website Server - $20/month
Pool Server - $20 month
Mining Contract for transition -$200
Help with coding during transition -$200

Money made so far -$~600

Thats $600 dollars out of my pocket.  


Now if you look here http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Proof_of_Stake  you will see that if someone were to buy 51% of Coin2, they could (very unlikely) attack the network.  So I have to keep a decent amount in my own wallet to BE SURE this will never happen.  

In all fairness, you had a good question.  But, please remember.  I sent this to 1,000 people and kept 2.5% for myself. If I was going to sell out, I would have done so on the day it hit BTer.com. I have (2) decent jobs in the real world and I made a good bit on BTC late last year when it spiked to $1200.  My house is almost paid off, and I enjoy my life.   Im not going to sell.  In a perfect world, I would hope value of C2 rises to ~$10.  Then I could use the C2 in my wallet as collateral for a business loan to push Coin2 to the next level, wherever that may be.  This coin is my creation, passion and obsession.  I wouldnt sell my baby for fiat.  My baby(coin2) will be the new fiat soon enough.  And if I were to sell out now, I will have to live with the fact that I sold all mine for nothing.  You should feel that way to as well as the rest of the community.  So any questions just ask.  Thank you   Smiley

Hope this clears up for you. Also since you think its such a scam I will buy you out, how many you got?Huh So damn impatient, you want a scam go to comm coin, they cloned us, used to say so right on their OP. Don't compare the original to the dump coin. We have an actual hard working team here.

The only thing I asked for Joel and your team is that:

Does Joel have courage to send the surplus 10 mil C2 to a public address that can be supervised by all the C2 community?

The transparency of C2.0 needs the exact proofs, rather than the one-side words said by Joel and your team.



Please this question has been answered before.

Act professional ok? Coin2.0 will never have many followers if Joel is here to scam and dump !!!

Joel's aim is to launch this FPS game so just be patient! 10,000C2 at 0.00001 (1k Sats) $50 bucks...? SERIOUSLY? My C2 address is below, send it to me and I will pay you 0.1 BTC in your BTC address and just go away. And don't come back ok?

Joel is still around and we look up at him, he knows what his doing!!! You send him a personal msg and he will reply unlike other coinDev out there!!! Real people behind Coin 2.0 slight delay but we will deliver!!!...Been monitoring the projects were doing well, delays are normal ...

Go Bitcoin !!!!!!!!!!!
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April 28, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
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KingArbinV,
Is that possible to place a child board which I proposed with such ledger for Coin2.
Why not simply get it done help eliminate repeated doubt and remind Joel keeps the annually or bi annually update to ensure Coin2 transparency.
The Ledger board may represent Coin2 as real stand out from altcoins.

sir do you have a sample ledger board we could use? I'll put this in our todo lists...

Thank you!!

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Namegeo, I think its a little arrogant way to express it. I firmly don't believe it's a Coin2 way. Summerlulu made a valid point. The idea of having a transparency address for the reserved funds actually is not a bad idea as long as remain control by Joel or teamembers help monitor it. However the full address should  partially block from view help prevent crimial minded individual found a way to access it in the future.  

So far, I haven't see any Crypto has such accountibility except BTC possess some form of similar. Imagine what could that represent if C2 is the 1st to do so in among altcoins?
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April 28, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
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KingArbinV,
Is that possible to place a child board which I proposed with such ledger for Coin2.
Why not simply get it done help eliminate repeated doubt and remind Joel keeps the annually or bi annually update to ensure Coin2 transparency.
The Ledger board may represent Coin2 as real stand out from altcoins.

sir do you have a sample ledger board we could use? I'll put this in our todo lists...

Thank you!!

lol, ask an old man like me?
I think Google spreadsheet is a good start since it publicly shareable.
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April 28, 2014, 01:07:43 PM
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Starting to think you guys only worry about the price and nothing were doing as far as development goes. I don't look at the price often nor do I care what it is. Joel is the most honest developer I've known, do you think none of these projects are worth what we paid out for them? I will point out something that is well known in the video gaming industry, real games take MONTHS to develop, maybe the FPS devs and the Casino Game devs are under paid?? What about the team of guys that answer your questions daily, I'm over worked and doing all I can to help. I do level design, I hang out in the forums, I hang out in the troll boxes, I am working on some side projects to make the coin better. If and IF that surplus was dumped you guys sure as hell would know it, pretty sure the amount joel has would kill the price instantly.  I'm 100% positive he wont, the guy is obsessive with coin2, we told him to take some time off last week and have caught him checking in a few times, some of you do more than your fair share, 42coin fever, we will get that out as soon as joel makes his comeback, he was spending too much time working on the coin and was afraid he was gonna lose his IRL job so we kinda forced him to take some time off. What I'm working on is big, should be ready by next week, has nothing to do with the FPS.

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Namegeo, I think its a little arrogant way to express it. I firmly don't believe it's a Coin2 way. Summerlulu made a valid point. The idea of having a transparency address for the reserved funds actually is not a bad idea as long as remain control by Joel or teamembers help monitor it. However the full address should from view partially block prevent from some crimial minded individual found a way to access it in the future.  

So far, I haven't see any Crypto has such accountibility except BTC possess some form of similar. Imagine what could that represent if C2 is the 1st to do so in among altcoins?

42coin fever, if you say so then fine. we want the coin2 for everyone , of course I will be so happy. Smiley

and I wish coin2 will go over 1000 sat to make summerlulu happy Smiley
I will be so happy too, because I have bought more than 650K of coin2 at an average price of around 980 sat. (none of them are giveaway)

I do believe in coin2 and I do believe in the dev team and the community.



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April 28, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
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Sadly its a trend in the alt community that the price has to rise so people can get a quick sell and profit. Projects like this take time. The people involved in this coin are the real deal. Be patient and you will see the awesomeness that will unfold! I can feel it!  Coin2 is not a get rich quick, or a stupid pump and dump. If you want that, there is a coin coming every week for that. This is not the future for Coin2! The future will be much better and more stable!

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April 28, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
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Hey guys, the max coins is 60,000,000, but in my wallet info says moneysupply 60458813. How does it work?

This coin is proof of stake, the longer they sit in your wallet the more coins you have. 60 mil is the amount that were started out with but everyones coins do this. 458,813 is the total of coins that have been generated with stake so far. Think of it like a savings account and your gaining interest on the amount your holding.


I have a question:

As we knew, the total mount of old C2 is 50 mil. But now, the new c2 has 60 mil in total.

as i understand what you said, KingArbinV, the surplus 1 mil is not used for the interests.

but where is the surplus 10 mil, and what will the surplus be used for?

can the c2 team make this clear please?

if we want to make a long run for C2.0, the transparency is necessary first.


 

Joel explained this a bunch of pages back, also we have been paying people to help with the fps, and also hired a 3D modeler off of Odesk, I know for a fact thats where some of it has gone, but that was recent, last 2 weeks. Here is the quote of joels post:

Quote
Here is a breakdown.
There was a total of 60 million coins

Total Pay Out:

Bter -32,683,224.91c2
Bittrex -13,250,001c2
Poloniex-2,012,539.89c2
Xnigma -33,237.479433c2
Coin2 board members and FPS game devs for all that they do - 1,500,000c2
Mac wallet - 500
Latecomers - 4,659,145.8c2
Total In My Wallet Right Now= 5,861,350.8.831

Future Payouts that are coming
Hashcows - 75,000c2
Coin2j dev - 100,000c2
Android wallet dev- 100,000c2
Point of Sale embedded Linux software - 750,000c2
Various other things that will be needed -1,000,000c2

So , Total of my wallet ~3 months-3,836,350.8.831


Actual Money spent so far on Coin2
Website Server - $20/month
Pool Server - $20 month
Mining Contract for transition -$200
Help with coding during transition -$200

Money made so far -$~600

Thats $600 dollars out of my pocket.  


Now if you look here http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Proof_of_Stake  you will see that if someone were to buy 51% of Coin2, they could (very unlikely) attack the network.  So I have to keep a decent amount in my own wallet to BE SURE this will never happen.  

In all fairness, you had a good question.  But, please remember.  I sent this to 1,000 people and kept 2.5% for myself. If I was going to sell out, I would have done so on the day it hit BTer.com. I have (2) decent jobs in the real world and I made a good bit on BTC late last year when it spiked to $1200.  My house is almost paid off, and I enjoy my life.   Im not going to sell.  In a perfect world, I would hope value of C2 rises to ~$10.  Then I could use the C2 in my wallet as collateral for a business loan to push Coin2 to the next level, wherever that may be.  This coin is my creation, passion and obsession.  I wouldnt sell my baby for fiat.  My baby(coin2) will be the new fiat soon enough.  And if I were to sell out now, I will have to live with the fact that I sold all mine for nothing.  You should feel that way to as well as the rest of the community.  So any questions just ask.  Thank you   Smiley

Hope this clears up for you. Also since you think its such a scam I will buy you out, how many you got?Huh So damn impatient, you want a scam go to comm coin, they cloned us, used to say so right on their OP. Don't compare the original to the dump coin. We have an actual hard working team here.

The only thing I asked for Joel and your team is that:

Does Joel have courage to send the surplus 10 mil C2 to a public address that can be supervised by all the C2 community?

The transparency of C2.0 needs the exact proofs, rather than the one-side words said by Joel and your team.



Please this question has been answered before.

Act professional ok? Coin2.0 will never have many followers if Joel is here to scam and dump !!!

Joel's aim is to launch this FPS game so just be patient! 10,000C2 at 0.00001 (1k Sats) $50 bucks...? SERIOUSLY? My C2 address is below, send it to me and I will pay you 0.1 BTC in your BTC address and just go away. And don't come back ok?

Joel is still around and we look up at him, he knows what his doing!!! You send him a personal msg and he will reply unlike other coinDev out there!!! Real people behind Coin 2.0 slight delay but we will deliver!!!...Been monitoring the projects were doing well, delays are normal ...

You guys want me to leave so that no one will doubt that right?

I just want the transparency. is it difficult for you (the c2 team) to do?

After I read back the several pages, here are my two doubts:

(1)After the attack happened, you guys developed the new C2, and asked the old C2 owner to change their coins to the new ones. SO the mount of c2.0 in exchanges should not be more than 50 mil. but i found from your data posted above.

Bter -32,683,224.91c2
Bittrex -13,250,001c2
Poloniex-2,012,539.89c2
Xnigma -33,237.479433c2
Latecomers - 4,659,145.8c2

I plus the mount of all exchanges and the late comers, and the mount is more than 50 mil.

How you guys explain this?

(2) As i understand, Joel changed the 4,659,145 for the latecomers who miss the two changing days. Is there any proof can assure him did so for all the latecomers? May I ask for the transparency for his changing details if he really did that?


All I ask is the transparency. I believe that many buyers and the majority of C2 community want this. I can just leave if you guys want me to leave. But how your team prevent the same doubt from the others. If you want to prove you clear, provide us with some real proofs.


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April 28, 2014, 01:29:07 PM
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apparently you missed the part where people were scamming him to get more C2, do you know the amount of effort it takes to pull off a 3 day conversion to recover from a 51% attack?? If you can do better, sell out and go start your own coin, there are some pretty cheap devs out there. n3lz0n has offered to refund your btc, namegeo has and I have, all that shit is in the past, currently there are over 60,000,000 coins, last I looked 458,817 to be exact. Are you gonna demand proof of why they exist next? I can't possibly prove how many time everyones wallet has staked in 17 days, Joel has no way to prove how many times he was scammed with old C2 to get new C2. Do you have no life? We do, and your causing me to lose time on the current project I'm doin. Can you not wait for joel to come back and give you a damn answer, go troll some other coin.

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April 28, 2014, 01:29:34 PM
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SIGN THE C2 PETITION

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The forward thinking POS altcoin with a plan.

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April 28, 2014, 01:31:03 PM
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Namegeo, I think its a little arrogant way to express it. I firmly don't believe it's a Coin2 way. Summerlulu made a valid point. The idea of having a transparency address for the reserved funds actually is not a bad idea as long as remain control by Joel or teamembers help monitor it. However the full address should from view partially block prevent from some crimial minded individual found a way to access it in the future.  

So far, I haven't see any Crypto has such accountibility except BTC possess some form of similar. Imagine what could that represent if C2 is the 1st to do so in among altcoins?

42coin fever, if you say so then fine. we want the coin2 for everyone , of course I will be so happy. Smiley

and I wish coin2 will go over 1000 sat to make summerlulu happy Smiley
I will be so happy too, because I have bought more than 650K of coin2 at an average price of around 980 sat. (none of them are giveaway)

I do believe in coin2 and I do believe in the dev team and the community.





SO you think the transparency i ask will hurt C2?

Now that you bought that many C2, i think you will need the transparency more urgently than me.  
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April 28, 2014, 01:32:08 PM
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@ summerlulu

Please be patient... This summary is incomplete, it is lacking 900k from Nxt-E.

Then some coins have been double spent during attack and were missing to exchanges places. Joel had to pay them off and I don't know the exact number.

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April 28, 2014, 01:43:28 PM
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@ summerlulu

Please be patient... This summary is incomplete, it is lacking 900k from Nxt-E.

Then some coins have been double spent during attack and were missing to exchanges places. Joel had to pay off them and I don't know the exact number.


To KingArbinV: I don't meant to troll C2. I don't think what i ask is not rational. You want to let C2 be different from other scam coins, so make it clear first.

To nrigo: yea, i will wait until Joel come back and make all the thing clear.  

To all the C2 community: I would like to buy more if you guys could make it transparency. I believe most of buyers also have the same requirement with me. No doubt that C2 is one of the most potential coins if clear, and could foresee the bright future of C2 backed by the upcoming game.

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April 28, 2014, 01:54:28 PM
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Namegeo, I think its a little arrogant way to express it. I firmly don't believe it's a Coin2 way. Summerlulu made a valid point. The idea of having a transparency address for the reserved funds actually is not a bad idea as long as remain control by Joel or teamembers help monitor it. However the full address should from view partially block prevent from some crimial minded individual found a way to access it in the future.  

So far, I haven't see any Crypto has such accountibility except BTC possess some form of similar. Imagine what could that represent if C2 is the 1st to do so in among altcoins?

42coin fever, if you say so then fine. we want the coin2 for everyone , of course I will be so happy. Smiley

and I wish coin2 will go over 1000 sat to make summerlulu happy Smiley
I will be so happy too, because I have bought more than 650K of coin2 at an average price of around 980 sat. (none of them are giveaway)

I do believe in coin2 and I do believe in the dev team and the community.





Same here. I even physically help push it to Cryptos investors at near high.
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April 28, 2014, 02:12:32 PM
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Namegeo, I think its a little arrogant way to express it. I firmly don't believe it's a Coin2 way. Summerlulu made a valid point. The idea of having a transparency address for the reserved funds actually is not a bad idea as long as remain control by Joel or teamembers help monitor it. However the full address should  partially block from view help prevent crimial minded individual found a way to access it in the future.  

So far, I haven't see any Crypto has such accountibility except BTC possess some form of similar. Imagine what could that represent if C2 is the 1st to do so in among altcoins?

To 42coin fever,

I think it is easy to make a public address. Joel just need to create a new wallet address and then distribute this address to the public. so that the community can check this address from c2 explorer. If Joel used the coins from this public address, he can just explain what he used the coins to do, like for giveaways or for some rewards. We will know from the explorer.

Is it difficult in tech.?
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April 28, 2014, 02:13:22 PM
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Namegeo, I think its a little arrogant way to express it. I firmly don't believe it's a Coin2 way. Summerlulu made a valid point. The idea of having a transparency address for the reserved funds actually is not a bad idea as long as remain control by Joel or teamembers help monitor it. However the full address should from view partially block prevent from some crimial minded individual found a way to access it in the future.  

So far, I haven't see any Crypto has such accountibility except BTC possess some form of similar. Imagine what could that represent if C2 is the 1st to do so in among altcoins?

42coin fever, if you say so then fine. we want the coin2 for everyone , of course I will be so happy. Smiley

and I wish coin2 will go over 1000 sat to make summerlulu happy Smiley
I will be so happy too, because I have bought more than 650K of coin2 at an average price of around 980 sat. (none of them are giveaway)

I do believe in coin2 and I do believe in the dev team and the community.





SO you think the transparency i ask will hurt C2?

Now that you bought that many C2, i think you will need the transparency more urgently than me.  


Summerlulu, I am not saying that I don't want transparency, nor that it hurts me or anyone in the C2 community, on the contrary, we do believe in the C2.0 because there is enough transparency, dedication and good experience.

I just got revolted when you accused the whole project as a dump one, and that you got scammed because of 10K that you invested in this coin. Of course we need everyone to get involved in this coin, but not at the price of throwing accusation and hurting the image of the coin while everyone is trying hard to make it work the best way it can.

there is always a way to say the same thing in different way
Here I quote you saying  :

"no one response?

I think C2 is similar with COMM. The same point of these two shit coins is that the dev has so many extra coins in their cold wallet, and only want to make money from them.

I bought 10k at 1000 sat, but I feel like I'm scammed by the C2 team. Probably what I bought is exactly what they dumped.

Ahha, it smells that the dev is in vacation using the money they make from their dumped C2. "


so it is not a way to ask for clarification nor for transparency.

these question have been the community concern since the beginning, so do please think before writing because there is always another way to say what you want to say.



again , I do believe in C2.0 in the dev team and in the community.
 
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