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August 17, 2018, 07:25:11 AM
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Great stuff, thanks for sharing.  This fella should get all the merit for the work done here. So much effort returned to the community at no expectation  of reward. 
Thanks! Smiley

Rusbit...great work..only one suggestion...

Can you please change from destroyed to redeemed? Its kills me to hear Casascius and Destroyed in the same sentence. Redeemed is hard to but I can live with that.

Other than that I applaud this work you have done for us. Wink

BTW the graphic makes it so much easier to comprehend it all too.  Smiley
Thanks, appreciate it!

I suppose 'Destroyed' can be a bit misleading or extreme, at least to people less familiar with Casascius coins.

Do others feel the same way? Should I rename: Destroyed -> Redeemed? If there is a better term we can use, feel free to suggest.
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August 17, 2018, 09:46:35 AM
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This tool is great! I'd like to be the proud owner of one of them, but is good to see this kind of work if someday I decide to eventually purchase one.

The beautiful thing about this community is that many members are willing to develop beautiful tools for free. Keep on with the good work!
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August 17, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
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Great stuff, thanks for sharing.  This fella should get all the merit for the work done here. So much effort returned to the community at no expectation  of reward.  
Thanks! Smiley

Rusbit...great work..only one suggestion...

Can you please change from destroyed to redeemed? Its kills me to hear Casascius and Destroyed in the same sentence. Redeemed is hard to but I can live with that.

Other than that I applaud this work you have done for us. Wink

BTW the graphic makes it so much easier to comprehend it all too.  Smiley
Thanks, appreciate it!

I suppose 'Destroyed' can be a bit misleading or extreme, at least to people less familiar with Casascius coins.

Do others feel the same way? Should I rename: Destroyed -> Redeemed? If there is a better term we can use, feel free to suggest.

 If not redeemed perhaps>>> Swept.....Peeled...Unloaded?  Smiley

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August 17, 2018, 10:59:24 AM
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great work, I was looking for a site like yours for some time now! Enjoy some merits Smiley
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August 17, 2018, 02:47:24 PM
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Thanks everyone, glad you like the resource!

The goal of the tool was to be able to do extensive analysis on Casascius coins, ie. destruction trends, frequency, overall rarity, etc.

Great work!! Can you explain what you mean by "destruction"? Do you mean redeemed?

Thanks Cheesy Yeah, destroyed refers to redeemed. At least, thats how I view them. If this is not intuitive or may be misleading, we can definitely relabel these.

When I am done refining the tool, I may look into extending the tool to other coins. If there are any suggestions or requests, please include them here.

Feel free to take advantage of provided information for NastyFans Minted Seats.  You can contact me with any questions or refer to the existing analyzer as a reference.
Thanks for this, will do when I am ready to proceed with non-Casascius coins Smiley The good thing is that the code is modular and extensible so it'll be pretty easy to add other coins with little to no effort Smiley I just need to get the main one down first.

There might be destroyed coins out there - physically.  So they no longer exist.
The redeemed coins have a market of their own, they just don't have any balance associated with physical coin.
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August 18, 2018, 07:49:54 AM
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Thanks guys for the feedback, I'm going to go ahead and rename Destroyed to Redeemed due to popular demand; you guys are absolutely right.

I'll have this pushed out shortly.
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Any chance that this could be open source on Github? Grin

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Hi Lauda,

That is the plan after I'm done. My code is very shitty at the moment, and I'm ashamed to upload it to Github right now haha. I need to do some major refactoring and cleanup.
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August 21, 2018, 10:18:15 PM
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Thanks guys for the feedback, I'm going to go ahead and rename Destroyed to Redeemed due to popular demand; you guys are absolutely right.

I'll have this pushed out shortly.
This has been completed! Destroyed has been renamed to redeemed.  Cheesy

And I have broken down the Series 2 1BTC Cas Coins by year.

Type: S1-COIN-1 ->  [ S1-COIN-1-2011, S1-COIN-1-2012, S1-COIN-1-2013 ]
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August 21, 2018, 10:36:40 PM
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Thanks guys for the feedback, I'm going to go ahead and rename Destroyed to Redeemed due to popular demand; you guys are absolutely right.

I'll have this pushed out shortly.
This has been completed! Destroyed has been renamed to redeemed.  Cheesy

And I have broken down the Series 2 1BTC Cas Coins by year.

Type: S1-COIN-1 ->  [ S1-COIN-1-2011, S1-COIN-1-2012, S1-COIN-1-2013 ]

Cool bro. Thankyou for doing this

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August 21, 2018, 11:42:19 PM
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Thanks guys for the feedback, I'm going to go ahead and rename Destroyed to Redeemed due to popular demand; you guys are absolutely right.

I'll have this pushed out shortly.
This has been completed! Destroyed has been renamed to redeemed.  Cheesy

And I have broken down the Series 2 1BTC Cas Coins by year.

Type: S1-COIN-1 ->  [ S1-COIN-1-2011, S1-COIN-1-2012, S1-COIN-1-2013 ]

Cool bro. Thankyou for doing this

No matter how you word it a peeled loaded coin is destroyed. 

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August 22, 2018, 12:48:41 AM
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Thanks guys for the feedback, I'm going to go ahead and rename Destroyed to Redeemed due to popular demand; you guys are absolutely right.

I'll have this pushed out shortly.
This has been completed! Destroyed has been renamed to redeemed.  Cheesy

And I have broken down the Series 2 1BTC Cas Coins by year.

Type: S1-COIN-1 ->  [ S1-COIN-1-2011, S1-COIN-1-2012, S1-COIN-1-2013 ]

Cool bro. Thankyou for doing this

No matter how you word it a peeled loaded coin is destroyed.  

I vote using 'destroyed'. A peeled cas removes the coin value from it, so no longer a coin. You just have a redeemed token thingy.
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August 22, 2018, 12:50:29 AM
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Why don't you just do like "Redeemed/Destroyed" with like a popup info thing explaining etc ?  Would solve both problems, right?  Cheesy

Edit I agree with dazed but also with how newbs may construe it.... better to please both parties! Tongue

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August 22, 2018, 03:37:26 AM
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Why don't you just do like "Redeemed/Destroyed" with like a popup info thing explaining etc ?  Would solve both problems, right?  Cheesy

Edit I agree with dazed but also with how newbs may construe it.... better to please both parties! Tongue

The pop up should be a mushroom cloud and a flashing display of he word destroyed repeated. 

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Why don't you just do like "Redeemed/Destroyed" with like a popup info thing explaining etc ?  Would solve both problems, right?  Cheesy

Edit I agree with dazed but also with how newbs may construe it.... better to please both parties! Tongue
I would do that, but:

1) It doesn't work too well in the database, the database will need to store one or the other.
2) There is limited space real-estate, making the column too long will make the table row wrap itself which may ruin the aesthetics of the table. I have to test this out of course.

Nothing is set in stone yet. Perhaps, we can debate and make come to a conclusion. I suppose 'Destroyed' carries a bad connotation and I can see people who have redeemed/destroyed Casascius coins be concerned with such rhetoric. Same applies to the other side. Maybe presenting both words appeals to both parties. I also don't want this to turn political though lol Shocked.

On the other note, I am planning on creating a page that explains everything to newbies in detail and goes into the history of Casascius coins.

Why don't you just do like "Redeemed/Destroyed" with like a popup info thing explaining etc ?  Would solve both problems, right?  Cheesy

Edit I agree with dazed but also with how newbs may construe it.... better to please both parties! Tongue

The pop up should be a mushroom cloud and a flashing display of he word destroyed repeated. 
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Hi Lauda,

That is the plan after I'm done. My code is very shitty at the moment, and I'm ashamed to upload it to Github right now haha. I need to do some major refactoring and cleanup.
What languages are you using? There might be people that are able to/willing to help. Wink

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Any chance that this could be open source on Github? Grin
Hi Lauda,

That is the plan after I'm done. My code is very shitty at the moment, and I'm ashamed to upload it to Github right now haha. I need to do some major refactoring and cleanup.
What languages are you using? There might be people that are able to/willing to help. Wink
Everything is Python. The graphs are done via a Javascript library (plot.ly).

Web Framework: Flask /w Flask-Admin module
Database: Mongo

Let me do a bit of cleanup :p and I can get it up.
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Everything is Python.
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Everything is Python.
Cry Why not in PHP?  Tongue
Haha, I only know Python and Flask is super easy to work with and build web applications. :p

I just found out the tool got featured on this website: https://bitcoinist.com/expensive-ever-bitcoin-casascius/

I'm just a little bummed that sensationalized 'terrible security'.
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Haha, I only know Python and Flask is super easy to work with and build web applications. :p
I see. Ding me on TG if you use it 'GrumpyKitty', I can help you with some server side security.

I just found out the tool got featured on this website: https://bitcoinist.com/expensive-ever-bitcoin-casascius/
It's quite known already, well no wonder. Your analytics look better than this: https://casascius.uberbills.com/. You might want to add something like this too: https://i.imgur.com/GflyLHY.png.

I'm just a little bummed that they slightly misquoted me and sensationalized 'terrible security'.
Classic journalism. Roll Eyes

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