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September 08, 2018, 06:30:38 PM |
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You must take 30 year old predictions with a pinch of salt. Bitcoin comes close to being a universal currency, but as of today the US dollar plays this role. Even fiction writers would have struggled to write about a digital, decentralised currency 30 years ago.
A pinch of salt indeed. What was even mentioned was a whole lot different from what bitcoin is today which at least what Rothschild publication predicted was that a one world currency is likely to be put in place as soon as 2018 – eroding individual nations’ sense of sovereignty, and which we know would have ended up being centralized anyway. We do not know what the future holds but one currency worldwide to me still seems far fetched and I guess we will have to wait and see if bitcoin like you said get pretty close to it eventually.
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September 10, 2018, 09:55:28 AM |
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i believe in Phoenixcoin because coin has advanced checkpointing against 51% attacks. Other coins (btc, ltc, bch, xmr etc.) in the top do not have this protection and can be attacked at any time.
What check pointing are you even referring to? This was something mentioned some years ago with just an example being phoenix and which in the way it looks, it would have been more of a centralized entity but not like it actually came into existence anyway. Bitcoin is already a great innovation in that lane which is even decentralized in nature and that makes it a plus. If you like, keep considering old time sayings as anything tangible in the present world when things are changing fast.
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September 10, 2018, 11:43:18 AM |
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But yeah, if we want to break worldwide barriers without ceding a sovereign country's ability to control their monetary supply and giving an international centralized body inordinate amounts of geopolitical capital, we can simply use Bitcoin alongside fiat. Bitcoin is the new world currency.
Yup. I don't see why people keep focusing on Bitcoin to replace everything while banks, governments, fiat and Bitcoin can perfectly function alongside each other. We can use the best of all options offered. That's freedom. Not everyone is interested in Bitcoin to dominate everything. If Bitcoin was to replace everything as some speculative noobs want it to do, all others would practically be forced to go with something they don't like. Bitcoin can't handle the weight of the whole world, and for that reason we should be happy to have other options helping Bitcoin to evenly distribute the weight of the world population. Bitcoin even with LN isn't going to do it alone. Totally agree. There is too much weight and expectation put on bitcoin, we see it here on the boards regularly. "When will bitcoin be accepted as the world currency" etc. etc. Not everyone wants to use bitcoin and bitcoin cannot solve all economic Requirements. A one world currency is possible for sure, the EURO is a good example but bitcoin wont be it, in the context of replacing FIAT.
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September 10, 2018, 01:55:43 PM |
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Many things predicted in the 80s didn't happen and won't happen. That's just the way things go with the total majority of predictions.
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Many things predicted in the 80s didn't happen and won't happen. That's just the way things go with the total majority of predictions.
Even the most richest person in this word can make any prediction but 90% of that will not happen, same thing in cryptomarket everyone is making their own prediction and yet not all of them succeed. Today the market are still down, and cryptomarket is not moving high maybe 2018 is the year for bear, so this prediction remains negative.
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September 11, 2018, 07:01:57 AM |
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Rothschild: Get Ready For One World Currency By 2018
A Rothschild publication predicts that a one world currency is likely to be put in place as soon as 2018 – eroding individual nations’ sense of sovereignty.
The Rothschild-controlled Economist magazine published an article 30 years ago that highlighted the proabability of a world currency by the year 2018.
Thefreethoughtproject.com reports:
One must also keep in mind that the controlling interest of The Economist is held by the powerful Rothschild family, who regard themselves as the “custodians of The Economist magazine’s legacy.” In essence, the magazine operates as a quasi-propaganda arm for the Rothschild banking empire and related businesses and, is in many ways, meant to prime the pump of public opinion for the globalist agenda to be implemented.
The excerpt below appeared in the print magazine on January 9, 1988, in Vol. 306, pp 9-10.
Ready for the Phoenix
THIRTY years from now, Americans, Japanese, Europeans, and people in many other rich countries, and some relatively poor ones will probably be paying for their shopping with the same currency. Prices will be quoted not in dollars, yen or D-marks but in, let’s say, the phoenix. The phoenix will be favoured by companies and shoppers because it will be more convenient than today’s national currencies, which by then will seem a quaint cause of much disruption to economic life in the last twentieth century. – At the beginning of 1988 this appears an outlandish prediction. Proposals for eventual monetary union proliferated five and ten years ago, but they hardly envisaged the setbacks of 1987. The governments of the big economies tried to move an inch or two towards a more managed system of exchange rates – a logical preliminary, it might seem, to radical monetary reform. For lack of co-operation in their underlying economic policies they bungled it horribly, and provoked the rise in interest rates that brought on the stock market crash of October. These events have chastened exchange-rate reformers. The market crash taught them that the pretence of policy co-operation can be worse than nothing, and that until real co-operation is feasible (i.e., until governments surrender some economic sovereignty) further attempts to peg currencies will flounder.
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The New World Economy
The biggest change in the world economy since the early 1970’s is that flows of money have replaced trade in goods as the force that drives exchange rates. as a result of the relentless integration of the world’s financial markets, differences in national economic policies can disturb interest rates (or expectations of future interest rates) only slightly, yet still call forth huge transfers of financial assets from one country to another. These transfers swamp the flow of trade revenues in their effect on the demand and supply for different currencies, and hence in their effect on exchange rates. As telecommunications technology continues to advance, these transactions will be cheaper and faster still. With unco-ordinated economic policies, currencies can get only more volatile.
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In all these ways national economic boundaries are slowly dissolving. As the trend continues, the appeal of a currency union across at least the main industrial countries will seem irresistible to everybody except foreign-exchange traders and governments. In the phoenix zone, economic adjustment to shifts in relative prices would happen smoothly and automatically, rather as it does today between different regions within large economies (a brief on pages 74-75 explains how.) The absence of all currency risk would spur trade, investment and employment.
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The phoenix zone would impose tight constraints on national governments. There would be no such thing, for instance, as a national monetary policy. The world phoenix supply would be fixed by a new central bank, descended perhaps from the IMF. The world inflation rate – and hence, within narrow margins, each national inflation rate- would be in its charge. Each country could use taxes and public spending to offset temporary falls in demand, but it would have to borrow rather than print money to finance its budget deficit. With no recourse to the inflation tax, governments and their creditors would be forced to judge their borrowing and lending plans more carefully than they do today. This means a big loss of economic sovereignty, but the trends that make the phoenix so appealing are taking that sovereignty away in any case. Even in a world of more-or-less floating exchange rates, individual governments have seen their policy independence checked by an unfriendly outside world.
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As the next century approaches, the natural forces that are pushing the world towards economic integration will offer governments a broad choice. They can go with the flow, or they can build barricades. Preparing the way for the phoenix will mean fewer pretended agreements on policy and more real ones. It will mean allowing and then actively promoting the private-sector use of an international money alongside existing national monies. That would let people vote with their wallets for the eventual move to full currency union. The phoenix would probably start as a cocktail of national currencies, just as the Special Drawing Right is today. In time, though, its value against national currencies would cease to matter, because people would choose it for its convenience and the stability of its purchasing power.
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The alternative – to preserve policymaking autonomy- would involve a new proliferation of truly draconian controls on trade and capital flows. This course offers governments a splendid time. They could manage exchange-rate movements, deploy monetary and fiscal policy without inhibition, and tackle the resulting bursts of inflation with prices and incomes polices. It is a growth-crippling prospect. Pencil in the phoenix for around 2018, and welcome it when it comes.
Only ten years later, in 1998, The Economist was once again engaging the public in an effort to forward the globalist agenda, with an article entitled “One world, one money.”
Very much in line with the 1988 piece, the publication attempts to explain why a much more centralized and controlled system would be beneficial to the global economy, while wholly ignoring the fact that such a centralized global currency would be a massive coup for the international banking cartel, and the Rothschild banking empire’s financial bottom line.
Additionally, it must be noted that the creation of a global currency would give an inordinate amount of geopolitical capital to unelected international bankers, and subsequently take power away from the citizens of each nation and their respective governmental representatives.
Does anyone really want international bankers to have such a vast amount of political power on top of the massive financial influence and sway they already hold in the halls of power?People want more say in their own lives, not having policy dictated to them by international banksters and bureaucrats.
Control over a nation’s money supply is, for all intents and purposes, the lifeblood of a state’s sovereignty – without this independence, the state only exists in name but is subservient to supranational powers whose interests lie outside of domestic and national political/economic concerns.
“GIVE ME CONTROL OF A NATION’S MONEY SUPPLY, AND I CARE NOT WHO MAKES ITS LAWS,” said Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
Although the Rothschild family now generally keep a very low public profile, they still have significant business operations across a wide spectrum of sectors. While you may not find any one particular Rothschild on the Forbes’ most rich list, the family is estimated to control $1 trillion dollars in assets across the globe, thus having a strong voice across the geopolitical spectrum that many perceive as a hidden hand manipulating events silently from behind a veil of secrecy and silence. Articles about new world currency in 2018 en https://kingworldnews.com/rothschilds-1988-prediction-for-new-world-currency-in-2018-set-to-rock-global-markets/https://goldswitzerland.com/strong-gold-in-2018-vs-new-world-currency/ etc. ru http://svpressa.ru/economy/article/186128/ итд. What do you think about the new world currency Phoenix in 2018 year? Maibe its this coin Phoenixcoin https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/phoenixcoin/Oh God why are people fond of posting rubbish topics here??? Who is still talking about one world currency these days… those of you saying this are the type that only think straight jeez. C’mon it’s time you all start to think outside the box! I’m even surprised that some people here are saying that the one world currency is Bitcoin 😒who taught you that? Have you ever thought about the possibilities of having one world currency? You think it is just easy. Hmph…
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September 12, 2018, 06:59:40 AM |
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Rothschild: Get Ready For One World Currency By 2018
A Rothschild publication predicts that a one world currency is likely to be put in place as soon as 2018 – eroding individual nations’ sense of sovereignty.
The Rothschild-controlled Economist magazine published an article 30 years ago that highlighted the proabability of a world currency by the year 2018.
Thefreethoughtproject.com reports:
One must also keep in mind that the controlling interest of The Economist is held by the powerful Rothschild family, who regard themselves as the “custodians of The Economist magazine’s legacy.” In essence, the magazine operates as a quasi-propaganda arm for the Rothschild banking empire and related businesses and, is in many ways, meant to prime the pump of public opinion for the globalist agenda to be implemented.
The excerpt below appeared in the print magazine on January 9, 1988, in Vol. 306, pp 9-10.
Ready for the Phoenix
THIRTY years from now, Americans, Japanese, Europeans, and people in many other rich countries, and some relatively poor ones will probably be paying for their shopping with the same currency. Prices will be quoted not in dollars, yen or D-marks but in, let’s say, the phoenix. The phoenix will be favoured by companies and shoppers because it will be more convenient than today’s national currencies, which by then will seem a quaint cause of much disruption to economic life in the last twentieth century. – At the beginning of 1988 this appears an outlandish prediction. Proposals for eventual monetary union proliferated five and ten years ago, but they hardly envisaged the setbacks of 1987. The governments of the big economies tried to move an inch or two towards a more managed system of exchange rates – a logical preliminary, it might seem, to radical monetary reform. For lack of co-operation in their underlying economic policies they bungled it horribly, and provoked the rise in interest rates that brought on the stock market crash of October. These events have chastened exchange-rate reformers. The market crash taught them that the pretence of policy co-operation can be worse than nothing, and that until real co-operation is feasible (i.e., until governments surrender some economic sovereignty) further attempts to peg currencies will flounder.
…
The New World Economy
The biggest change in the world economy since the early 1970’s is that flows of money have replaced trade in goods as the force that drives exchange rates. as a result of the relentless integration of the world’s financial markets, differences in national economic policies can disturb interest rates (or expectations of future interest rates) only slightly, yet still call forth huge transfers of financial assets from one country to another. These transfers swamp the flow of trade revenues in their effect on the demand and supply for different currencies, and hence in their effect on exchange rates. As telecommunications technology continues to advance, these transactions will be cheaper and faster still. With unco-ordinated economic policies, currencies can get only more volatile.
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In all these ways national economic boundaries are slowly dissolving. As the trend continues, the appeal of a currency union across at least the main industrial countries will seem irresistible to everybody except foreign-exchange traders and governments. In the phoenix zone, economic adjustment to shifts in relative prices would happen smoothly and automatically, rather as it does today between different regions within large economies (a brief on pages 74-75 explains how.) The absence of all currency risk would spur trade, investment and employment.
–
The phoenix zone would impose tight constraints on national governments. There would be no such thing, for instance, as a national monetary policy. The world phoenix supply would be fixed by a new central bank, descended perhaps from the IMF. The world inflation rate – and hence, within narrow margins, each national inflation rate- would be in its charge. Each country could use taxes and public spending to offset temporary falls in demand, but it would have to borrow rather than print money to finance its budget deficit. With no recourse to the inflation tax, governments and their creditors would be forced to judge their borrowing and lending plans more carefully than they do today. This means a big loss of economic sovereignty, but the trends that make the phoenix so appealing are taking that sovereignty away in any case. Even in a world of more-or-less floating exchange rates, individual governments have seen their policy independence checked by an unfriendly outside world.
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As the next century approaches, the natural forces that are pushing the world towards economic integration will offer governments a broad choice. They can go with the flow, or they can build barricades. Preparing the way for the phoenix will mean fewer pretended agreements on policy and more real ones. It will mean allowing and then actively promoting the private-sector use of an international money alongside existing national monies. That would let people vote with their wallets for the eventual move to full currency union. The phoenix would probably start as a cocktail of national currencies, just as the Special Drawing Right is today. In time, though, its value against national currencies would cease to matter, because people would choose it for its convenience and the stability of its purchasing power.
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The alternative – to preserve policymaking autonomy- would involve a new proliferation of truly draconian controls on trade and capital flows. This course offers governments a splendid time. They could manage exchange-rate movements, deploy monetary and fiscal policy without inhibition, and tackle the resulting bursts of inflation with prices and incomes polices. It is a growth-crippling prospect. Pencil in the phoenix for around 2018, and welcome it when it comes.
Only ten years later, in 1998, The Economist was once again engaging the public in an effort to forward the globalist agenda, with an article entitled “One world, one money.”
Very much in line with the 1988 piece, the publication attempts to explain why a much more centralized and controlled system would be beneficial to the global economy, while wholly ignoring the fact that such a centralized global currency would be a massive coup for the international banking cartel, and the Rothschild banking empire’s financial bottom line.
Additionally, it must be noted that the creation of a global currency would give an inordinate amount of geopolitical capital to unelected international bankers, and subsequently take power away from the citizens of each nation and their respective governmental representatives.
Does anyone really want international bankers to have such a vast amount of political power on top of the massive financial influence and sway they already hold in the halls of power?People want more say in their own lives, not having policy dictated to them by international banksters and bureaucrats.
Control over a nation’s money supply is, for all intents and purposes, the lifeblood of a state’s sovereignty – without this independence, the state only exists in name but is subservient to supranational powers whose interests lie outside of domestic and national political/economic concerns.
“GIVE ME CONTROL OF A NATION’S MONEY SUPPLY, AND I CARE NOT WHO MAKES ITS LAWS,” said Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
Although the Rothschild family now generally keep a very low public profile, they still have significant business operations across a wide spectrum of sectors. While you may not find any one particular Rothschild on the Forbes’ most rich list, the family is estimated to control $1 trillion dollars in assets across the globe, thus having a strong voice across the geopolitical spectrum that many perceive as a hidden hand manipulating events silently from behind a veil of secrecy and silence. Articles about new world currency in 2018 en https://kingworldnews.com/rothschilds-1988-prediction-for-new-world-currency-in-2018-set-to-rock-global-markets/https://goldswitzerland.com/strong-gold-in-2018-vs-new-world-currency/ etc. ru http://svpressa.ru/economy/article/186128/ итд. What do you think about the new world currency Phoenix in 2018 year? Maibe its this coin Phoenixcoin https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/phoenixcoin/Whoever was the author that wrote this bullshit is a very stupid man. This is an old topic and who is even talking about it these days when there are more important issues to handle??? I still can’t believe that anyone would have time for this trash. Even the op himself, I don’t really know what to call you. And what are trying to say? That Bitcoin is what they are talking about or what? So you think Bitcoin is the one word currency? Hmph… people are really funny.
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It can be nothing but bitcoin, I don't think such cryptocurrency will be launched now, it is hard to be trusted like btc.
I completely agree. Bitcoin dominance is so strong now especially considering the current trend in the market right now. It's most likely that, bitcoin, out of all the other cryptocurrencies, has the highest chance of gaining mass global adoption. 2018 is too soon though and it may take more time for the world to accept this global currency.
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Now the whole market is falling and we need to wait for the price to turn up and then it is possible Phoenixcoin will new world currency.
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September 14, 2018, 12:21:02 AM |
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I dont think thats is phoenixcoin in market right now, i think different coin. Rothschild already known as banker family and i think if he issuing cryptocurrency, that will be big news in cryptomarket and give big impact for market
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September 14, 2018, 02:23:50 AM |
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It can only be in the distant future. In order for the world to switch to the use of a single currency, the economic development of countries should be brought closer, but, most importantly, there should not be military or even local military conflicts in the world, not even military ones, but even political conflicts. This may be, when the planet Earth is either before a common threat requiring urgent unification of efforts before the general extinction, or vice versa, due to the sharp development of scientific and technical progress, there will be abundance in us, but requiring a unified unification. For example, we will enter into official contact with aliens and need a single view of the planet with a single Government.
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September 14, 2018, 06:16:33 AM |
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Many things predicted in the 80s didn't happen and won't happen. That's just the way things go with the total majority of predictions.
Well I do agree. Predictions do not always go in the same and in the right direction. Neither a prediction backed by nothing sends a clear message. It is not possible to predict the super power in the next century as long as you do not do all the calculations be it political or related to the economy or cultural diversity. It can just be a hypothesis and that would need strong and logical reasons to prove why and how things would be in future. It could have been said keeping the technological progress in the mind.
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September 14, 2018, 07:09:13 AM |
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It can be nothing but bitcoin, I don't think such cryptocurrency will be launched now, it is hard to be trusted like btc.
If you force enough people to use a specific option, just like what's happening with fiat, people will obey. My main concern is that with how fiat currencies will become tokens under full control of the governments issuing them, people more than ever will lose their freedom and won't be able to freely spend their money anymore. People will spend their money in the way they believe their government won't hop in and start making their life a hell, which is exactly what modernized censorship will look like in the forthcoming years. Instead of wasting time, people need to make sure at least 10-25% of their wealth is converted to Bitcoin. People don't yet realize the importance of lowering their fiat exposure because they feel everything is all safe and sound right now, but it's really not. I did it years ago already and have currently around 75% of my wealth sitting in Bitcoin, and it feels great. Wow that would be very wise and safest way of investment mate. I hope one day I could also have the same strategy as you. It is very smart if we have our money invested in Bitcoin for like 70% and 30% in fiat. Why? It is because Bitcoin cannot be controlled by greed entities as it is a community driven asset and it is also proven and tested safe from the time it exist though manipulation exist but not a problem with Bitcoin. New world currency is I think controlled by oligarchs so not safe for the poor people because I think it is just another one sided currency that will make rich people richer and poor be poorer.
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September 14, 2018, 08:26:11 AM |
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I believe that only bitcoin can be called the first currency in the world. Reading the article you published, I understand that this is an ordinary coin that follows in the same footsteps as bitcoin used to go. Nothing new. However, I do not deny that once there will be coins that will create competition to bitcoin.
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September 14, 2018, 10:32:10 AM |
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Though the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers are one of the richest people, but this is not to say that they are for the people wrote this article and pressedout goal is to help people. Absolutely not. The first and only currency is bitcoin, it was before and now remains.
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September 15, 2018, 05:33:02 AM |
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If Nostradamus make that prediction, i slightly believe. Other prediction in the 80's not happen. Cryptocurrency till now experiencing ups and downs. It can be a worldwide currency if all nations set a law and restrictions for using a digital currency.
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September 16, 2018, 04:15:14 AM |
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It can only be in the distant future. In order for the world to switch to the use of a single currency, the economic development of countries should be brought closer, but, most importantly, there should not be military or even local military conflicts in the world, not even military ones, but even political conflicts.
No, it isn't. This is a long time news and apparently what they are talking about is totally a different thing from cryptocurrency at large and what I am sure they must have been wrapping their heads around is to have a global currency in which every nation of the world is using and there is just simply one control as the case may be. It is total B.S to me and it is a good thing satoshi beat them to it. If they are to even create any form of cryptocurrency, it still would not change the monopoly going on currently in the fiat system. Rothschild already known as banker family and i think if he issuing cryptocurrency, that will be big news in cryptomarket and give big impact for market
What has the downtrend gotten to do with old news? Apparently, this is something we all know will be hard to see happen in which everyone in the world is using a global currency. In that case, who is in control? Where would the central bank be located, as we all know it could only be in a digital form, but that does not mean it won't be centralized. Phoenix coin or not. At least, one thing I am certain of is that you can force your own citizens to utilize what you are giving, but you cannot force the whole world.
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September 17, 2018, 06:54:15 PM Last edit: September 19, 2018, 09:06:33 PM by coinman76 |
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September 19, 2018, 09:12:58 PM |
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Phoenixcoin reborn from the ashes on October (10th month) as the Rothschilds wrote. Buy the coin at the best price now.
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September 23, 2018, 11:33:10 AM |
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if their written this newspaper, that is, it makes sense to think. the main thing is always to have real value right here and now, in case of crisis
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