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LKETC.com whois Domain Name: lketc.com Registry Domain ID: Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.hichina.com Registrar URL: http://www.net.cn/Updated Date: 2014-01-22T06:34:30Z Creation Date: 2014-01-22T06:34:30Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-01-22T06:34:30Z Registrar: HICHINA ZHICHENG TECHNOLOGY LTD. Registrar IANA ID: 420 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: Email Masking Image@list.alibaba-inc.comRegistrar Abuse Contact Phone: +86.1064242299 Reseller: Domain Status: Registry Registrant ID: whois-protect Registrant Name: WHOIS AGENT Registrant Organization: DOMAIN WHOIS PROTECTION SERVICE Registrant Street: 3/F.,HiChina Mansion,No.27 Gulouwai Avenue,Dongcheng District,Beijing 100120,China Registrant City: Beijing Registrant State/Province: Beijing Registrant Postal Code: 100120 Registrant Country: CN Registrant Phone: +8610.64242266 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +8610.84138796 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: Email Masking Image@hichina.comRegistry Admin ID: whois-protect Admin Name: WHOIS AGENT Admin Organization: DOMAIN WHOIS PROTECTION SERVICE Admin Street: 3/F.,HiChina Mansion,No.27 Gulouwai Avenue,Dongcheng District,Beijing 100120,China Admin City: Beijing Admin State/Province: Beijing Admin Postal Code: 100120 Admin Country: CN Admin Phone: +8610.64242266 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +8610.84138796 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: Email Masking Image@hichina.comRegistry Tech ID: whois-protect Tech Name: WHOIS AGENT Tech Organization: DOMAIN WHOIS PROTECTION SERVICE Tech Street: 3/F.,HiChina Mansion,No.27 Gulouwai Avenue,Dongcheng District,Beijing 100120,China Tech City: Beijing Tech State/Province: Beijing Tech Postal Code: 100120 Tech Country: CN Tech Phone: +8610.64242266 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +8610.84138796 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: Email Masking Image@hichina.comName Server: dns11.hichina.com Name Server: dns12.hichina.com DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-02-27T22:16:02Z <<< Registry Billing ID: whois-protect Billing Name: WHOIS AGENT Billing Organization: DOMAIN WHOIS PROTECTION SERVICE Billing Street: 3/F.,HiChina Mansion,No.27 Gulouwai Avenue,Dongcheng District,Beijing 100120,China Billing City: Beijing Billing State/Province: Beijing Billing Postal Code: 100120 Billing Country: CN Billing Phone: +8610.64242266 Billing Phone Ext: Billing Fax: +8610.84138796 Billing Fax Ext: Billing Email: Email Masking Image@hichina.comRegistrar is HICHINA ZHICHENG TECHNOLOGY LTD. google search results for the above company https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=HICHINA+ZHICHENG+TECHNOLOGY+LTD.&oq=HICHINA+ZHICHENG+TECHNOLOGY+LTD
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this looks like a good plan as long as escrow is provided for the purchase.
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Here is proof that I own the address:
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The address 1FZBjyY878gjqJdg7r2D55uonN48mf3KFJ belongs to sudoku.
Signature: GzOWUoInHU9jH8YmrgMBLoySZT/TeteUPm4e68VEMlRFIW9a+NaTf+0nzye4TxNlvXL2dMLk0g6U3bZcAFmo3qI=
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I am interested in the avalon 210 GH hosted option and I may also be interested in the 1Th option as well. My btc address is
17xLXeeBryKZ3iDBShDBx9HvPtG5GvraN
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Hello everyone ,I am a re-distributer of Dragon 1T miner from china and responsible for the selling outside china, I have posted the complete evaluation of the miner in the following link, and I have also complete one deal with nitehawk escrowed by saltysplioon as you can see in the same topic. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485497.msg5375481#msg5375481. Then I realized it that many money will lose in this way and increase the price of the miner, (the ship fee for a package weighted 22kg at the size of 70*40*55 was about 300$ via ups or DHL. and it will take at least two days to arrive (it will be 4 days if weekend are included), and at least another 0.32btc is lost during the shipment). If the miner was delayed by customs, it usually takes more than one month and a large amount of money to get the miner back. I have to add some fee to cover this risk. That is why the price I set is much more than you can see on the website of miner( www.lketc.com 27000 chinese yuan, 4500$). To decrease the price of the miner, I will provide a hosting plan here. Here is the detail of the plan. You can buy one miner at the price of 27500 chinese yuan (4590$ ,need additional fee to cover the ship fee ), and I will host this miner locally in china, the miner are supposed to deliver in 10-15 March 2014, and usually take 2 days to arrive, so the miner will start to work in 17 or 18 March 2014. I have a data center here (it is an internet bar now, and can supply enough power to support as much as 150-200 miners). And I will type your pools address and worker name into the miner, so you can receive the btc mined in real time. And the host fee will be 250$ per month and you need pay it monthly via btc( the fee for the electricity, internet, room and management all included). And you can ask me to ship it to you after mining for 3 months. The price and miner is almost the best that you can get today and thus the main thing you need to consider is that whether I am an honest man to be trust. The host place will be Nantong, which is about 200 Km away from shanghai, and welcome for the visiting. So if you want to join this host plan, PM me or send a mail to peicaili@gmail.com or add me skype:Skypepcfli. By the way, if you do not want to join this hosting plan and just want buy a miner from me, you can also contact me via above method. update an avalon 210G miner at the price of 600$ (250$ host fee per month) is available now. the miner is at hand and will mine for you immediately after giving me your btc address and 24 hours test for free also provided. UPdate,No.1 miner: sudoku joined the plan, thanks for the trust, here is the link to check the status of the mining: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1FZBjyY878gjqJdg7r2D55uonN48mf3KFJ
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March 02, 2014, 02:59:14 AM Last edit: March 02, 2014, 03:22:14 AM by pcfli |
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I am interested in the avalon 210 GH hosted option and I may also be interested in the 1Th option as well. My btc address is
17xLXeeBryKZ3iDBShDBx9HvPtG5GvraN
it seems like that there is already one miner mine for you in this address, please create one blank btc address and post here, so hash rate can be displayed clearly
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I want to join this. My btc address : 12WPkySbPnScqF29TSru4fkV27QpJWB5CS
Thanks.
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I'd really like to join this but some kind of escrow would be needed to pull me over the line unfortunately.... Would you be willing to consider escrow? I am sure many others would like to see this offered as a service as well. Because let's be fair, it's really hard to judge if you will deliver just from sitting behind a computer screen and having blind faith you will do so. It would really take the stress out of making the buying decision and wondering every second whether I was a fool to do so in the first place. Thanks. EDIT: Would you be willing to work with a service like this? I have no problem with paying the fees myself. https://www.escrow.com/services/milestone-escrow.aspx
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All newbs. Watch out! These two guys who said they wanted to join never discussed payment to the OP, what address to send it to, how much, receive or not. OP just gave them an address to see a miner going right away. Both of the joiners are newbs like the OP.
This is a very questionable deal. Especially given no response to the call for escrow.
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All newbs. Watch out! These two guys who said they wanted to join never discussed payment to the OP, what address to send it to, how much, receive or not. OP just gave them an address to see a miner going right away. Both of the joiners are newbs like the OP.
This is a very questionable deal. Especially given no response to the call for escrow.
OP offered 2 days of free mining to anyone, that's probably what's going on with those two guys. But I would agree on this being a questionable deal, OP needs to step up with escrow.
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March 02, 2014, 06:06:49 AM |
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If anyone wants free escrow feel comfortable to send me a message.
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I'll try. 1NkKgGzgJg14Bdppf9mr5KoqAFyckzyUVV
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March 02, 2014, 10:53:56 AM |
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i think I may be too new a member?
(just positng this to see what I even am)
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How are you splitting the group buy? how much is each member putting in?
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How are you splitting the group buy? how much is each member putting in?
I donot want to split one unit, you need to buy one miner by yourself, but you can choose what you want to buy, 200G avalon with the price of 650$(mine for you immediately after requirement and one day test provided ), 1T miner with the price of 5300$ right now(only 3 unit are available), and the price will decrease to 4950$ in march 10,
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March 02, 2014, 11:29:11 AM |
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2 days mining, and then I send you $5000 without escrow?
is that the deal?
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March 02, 2014, 11:38:27 AM |
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2 days mining, and then I send you $5000 without escrow?
is that the deal?
You can add me on skype:skypepcfli, then we can talk and you can ask anything you want to know, and if you really want to join the plan by then, i will let one miner mine for you for 24 hours for test, and if you want to join the plan after that, you need to pay me directly via btc, that is the whole process
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March 02, 2014, 11:50:47 AM |
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I would be interested in renting the 1TH power on a weekly basis instead of purchasing and hosting it with you.
Do you think that is possible?
If yes, at what price?
I think you should consider my offer as it will attract more buyers since not everyone can afford $6K
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I would be interested in renting the 1TH power on a weekly basis instead of purchasing and hosting it with you.
Do you think that is possible?
If yes, at what price?
I think you should consider my offer as it will attract more buyers since not everyone can afford $6K
Maybe we can make a deal, as I'm talking it through on skype. I can break my purchase up with other people....if this is legit!
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I would be interested in renting the 1TH power on a weekly basis instead of purchasing and hosting it with you.
Do you think that is possible?
If yes, at what price?
I think you should consider my offer as it will attract more buyers since not everyone can afford $6K
Maybe we can make a deal, as I'm talking it through on skype. I can break my purchase up with other people....if this is legit! Well, find out and let us know
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I would be interested in renting the 1TH power on a weekly basis instead of purchasing and hosting it with you.
Do you think that is possible?
If yes, at what price?
I think you should consider my offer as it will attract more buyers since not everyone can afford $6K
Maybe we can make a deal, as I'm talking it through on skype. I can break my purchase up with other people....if this is legit! Well, find out and let us know interested in this too
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I would love to replace my Ant farm with Dragon 1T units due to the increased power efficiency (over 2x as efficient), but can't justify paying 50% more for the same amount of hashrate.
When the price of these Dragon 1T units comes down a bit and is closer to Ants I'm in for a few units...
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My new address for the miner is 1E8Sv2gdT93Mj63cCYQ3XqwFjhBrhANL6M Sorry about the other miner mining at the other address. Thanks!
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My new address for the miner is 1E8Sv2gdT93Mj63cCYQ3XqwFjhBrhANL6M Sorry about the other miner mining at the other address. Thanks!
The miner left have several broken chips, so it will not be able to achieve the hash rate of 200G, i have four miners arrive tomorrow and will point one of them mine for you for 24 hours by then, sorry for the delay
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I would love to replace my Ant farm with Dragon 1T units due to the increased power efficiency (over 2x as efficient), but can't justify paying 50% more for the same amount of hashrate.
When the price of these Dragon 1T units comes down a bit and is closer to Ants I'm in for a few units...
Keep an eye on this post, the price of dragon 1 T miner will decrease for sure in future
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What is the price right now, looking through your posts/site I find multiple prices and I don't know which is correct right now
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What is the price right now, looking through your posts/site I find multiple prices and I don't know which is correct right now
The price is 9.524 btc for1 T miner today as i posted in the first topic of this thread, sorry for the misunderstanding, there are some price for pre-order and sell, and i have wipe them off in this topic now
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yep, price -must- get lower to be competive
see: 9,524 wouldbe 7 Ants, shipped in 48hr
even with double power draw, the need for a psu and a 8 port switch thats still 400GH more or 800€ saved when using server supplies
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I am up for seeing if when you get more miners if they preform as stated. Would like to see more than a few at the same time hashing at the proper rate. Here is my wallet for this test 1FvErpyTerLzVvxHRTdakoo14x1tJdDvHj
Please PM me when you start this test so I can follow it as it sounds like it might be a few days. Thanks
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I'll take a look into it 15wcZB3SF1G85EGgBkgr5AN8VmYy8r4URY can use this address.
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I would like to try out. Here is my BTC-address: 16EjAzEFUZWVwqBGZ6VdaTSHkpCPz11AJ8
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Donations are always welcome :-) 1C447F2zd9KdoRCpi8mMAYNiLqqh3JDsiY
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this is a SCAM be warned newbies and oldies
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What is the price right now, looking through your posts/site I find multiple prices and I don't know which is correct right now
The price is 9.524 btc for1 T miner today as i posted in the first topic of this thread, sorry for the misunderstanding, there are some price for pre-order and sell, and i have wipe them off in this topic now 100 days to Break Even with no change in difficulty. With 35 %-70 % increase in difficulty per month ( Best case and Real case scenario ) , Break Even = NeverWho is gonna buy this miner ?
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March 03, 2014, 02:39:18 AM |
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this is a SCAM be warned newbies and oldies
why?
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Please mine me some BTC 1G6pni8AoanvQbHs1QfTuU9p5jUv9NQLApThanks!
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I would like to try out. Here is my BTC-address: 16EjAzEFUZWVwqBGZ6VdaTSHkpCPz11AJ8
not available right now, i will switch one miner to your account when available
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Is it possible to show pics with your btctalk user name written on paper held up of the mining hosted area as well as the miners? Its pretty standard to have that in the thread. Also I am interested in seeing the avalon miners you are using for this test.
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Is it possible to show pics with your btctalk user name written on paper held up of the mining hosted area as well as the miners? Its pretty standard to have that in the thread. Also I am interested in seeing the avalon miners you are using for this test.
good suggestion, i will do that
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I'm waiting on above pics + confirmation of how some details and I will be purchasing 1 miner
If anyone is interested in sharing it somehow PM me,already had 2 pms about it but open to offers.
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Hi,
I am interested in 2 of these. I am a Senior Member here. We discussed over PM the possibility of purchasing 2 units, but since you are new to forum, I would like some assurance you actually have the miners in hand, and can ship them this week to NYC, USA. I have a good escrow agent/member here who works for tips, SebastianJu, he is quick to work with.
Here is my BTC address here: 19CRA5EvncT35KFG7vtT7CYJcWCdNaCeGT
If this is legit, I would continue to purchase more to make my Antminer farm more efficient.
Thanks.
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So I see the price has been changed today and has delivery for 10 miners in 48 hours! I received the email this am and i thought I would share so we can see some proof and get this guy some credit where it is hopefully due. This is a huge milestone in bitcoin mining!
Email I got was::: Hello every, here is a good news for you The factory has informed me to adjust the price of dragon 1T miner to 9 btc for hosing and 9.428 btc for shipping, only 10 unit available and can deliver in 48 hours after payment
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What you think you become. Bitrated user: apollojmr.
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bullshit scam thread speaking in chinese then in good american make youre mind up where your from you scam bull shitter
no one credable vouches for you and a pretend sale to another newbie come on for fucks sake people open the eyes
obieonekinobe says fuck this scam be warned and ignore or bee sorryful o great one
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March 03, 2014, 09:07:22 PM |
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Hi,
I am interested in 2 of these. I am a Senior Member here. We discussed over PM the possibility of purchasing 2 units, but since you are new to forum, I would like some assurance you actually have the miners in hand, and can ship them this week to NYC, USA. I have a good escrow agent/member here who works for tips, SebastianJu, he is quick to work with.
Here is my BTC address here: 19CRA5EvncT35KFG7vtT7CYJcWCdNaCeGT
If this is legit, I would continue to purchase more to make my Antminer farm more efficient.
Thanks.
Add me on skype:skypepcfli or send me an email:peicaili@gmail.com, i have raised the money to pay the factory and thus i can accept escrow right now.
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pcfli (OP)
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March 04, 2014, 10:33:26 PM |
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I'm waiting on above pics + confirmation of how some details and I will be purchasing 1 miner
If anyone is interested in sharing it somehow PM me,already had 2 pms about it but open to offers.
I am working on the setting of one internet camera , should get it work in one or two days, then you will be able to see your host miners anytime you want
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March 05, 2014, 12:23:54 AM |
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If these are the Dragon 1 TH units, their website lists them now for 19999 Yuan = $3255 USD. Will prices be lowered to the current figure? --> Again, would you be willing to work out a escrow deal via: https://www.escrow.com/services/milestone-escrow.aspx? Is that something we can talk about? I'll happily pay the fees as well....
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March 05, 2014, 07:44:14 AM |
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If these are the Dragon 1 TH units, their website lists them now for 19999 Yuan = $3255 USD. Will prices be lowered to the current figure? --> Again, would you be willing to work out a escrow deal via: https://www.escrow.com/services/milestone-escrow.aspx? Is that something we can talk about? I'll happily pay the fees as well.... I am not familiar with this website, but i do accept escrow from reputable moderator in bitcointalk, please contact me via PM or send a maill to peicaili@gmail.com for detail information
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firejuan
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March 05, 2014, 09:27:14 AM |
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I am more interested in the price of 19999 Yuan approximately = $3264 plus shipping on March 18. I would be interested in that deal with escrow from a reputable member of this site.
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pcfli (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 04:57:47 AM |
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This price is not included the shipment fee, also i need some profit to cover the risk of through custom, Anyway, send me a email to peicaili@gmail.com, i will inform you the newest price at the first time
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March 06, 2014, 06:55:02 AM |
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If anyone is interested, I have provided escrow for a buyer who successfully completed a deal with pcfli and received the miner as promised.
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March 06, 2014, 12:03:52 PM |
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If anyone is interested, I have provided escrow for a buyer who successfully completed a deal with pcfli and received the miner as promised.
Thanks for the great help in this deal, ogNasty, we cannot complete this deal without your escrow. The honest people like you make the bitcoin much better and much useful.
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If anyone is interested, I have provided escrow for a buyer who successfully completed a deal with pcfli and received the miner as promised. Same here. One of the easiest escrow transactions I've handled -- smooth sailing.
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March 07, 2014, 10:47:57 PM Last edit: March 08, 2014, 12:42:44 AM by pcfli |
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If anyone is interested, I have provided escrow for a buyer who successfully completed a deal with pcfli and received the miner as promised. Same here. One of the easiest escrow transactions I've handled -- smooth sailing. Thannks kluge, it is your honest make the btc world better.
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March 08, 2014, 12:45:05 AM |
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5000$,! The last call for the order of dragon 1T miners delivered in 10 March. Hello, every one , this is the last call for the order of dragon 1 T miners delivered in 10 March, The price is 5000$ for the miners delivered and 4400 for the miners host.
This batch will arrive in my place in 9 March, and i will send it to you in 10 March.I have done four delivery deal and one host deal by now, and all of them will get 100$ discount in this batch if you make the order, With the release of money held in the last deal and some financial help from my bank, i can provide 5 deal with escrow.
If you want to buy one or just want to learn more about dragon 1T miner, contact me via PM, email:peicaili@gmail.com or skype: skypepcfli.
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oktay50000
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March 08, 2014, 01:35:38 AM |
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I want to join this(DRAGON 1T). My btc address : 1Pp5PEDEZ9sVAknodxoPFcovYnMm6s35zX
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BTC : bc1qqz9hvv806w2zs42mx4rn576whxmr202yxp00e9
feel free to buy me a bear
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March 08, 2014, 05:10:03 AM |
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I want to join this(DRAGON 1T). My btc address : 1Pp5PEDEZ9sVAknodxoPFcovYnMm6s35zX
if you want to test the 1 T miner, send a email to peicaili@gmail.com or add me on skype:skypepcfli, free test is closed, because most of the people will not send back the btc mined
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firejuan
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March 08, 2014, 02:13:18 PM |
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Looking forward to getting my hands on a Dragon Miner. Can't wait pcfli.
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March 08, 2014, 11:51:06 PM |
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150 units of dragon 1T miner are brought into farms and another 400 unit will be added soon.
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helmax
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March 09, 2014, 02:05:56 PM |
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This seller is scam? Anyone buy?
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S4VV4S
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March 09, 2014, 02:18:16 PM |
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This seller is scam? Anyone buy?
bobsag3 got a miner from them I think. Ask him.
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nitehawk
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March 09, 2014, 02:26:02 PM |
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i got one too.. but that site is what got me ..
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S4VV4S
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March 09, 2014, 02:35:03 PM |
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i got one too.. but that site is what got me ..
So you ordered one and it was delivered to you and working as it says it is? So why be suspicious?
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nitehawk
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March 09, 2014, 02:58:09 PM |
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ya know .. you would rather i dont say that site is hosting malware and have someone find out the hard way ? i could have just said nothing .. .
and i believe he doesnt have anything to do with the site... it may be just where he gets them from.
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March 09, 2014, 03:02:54 PM |
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ya know .. you would rather i dont say that site is hosting malware and have someone find out the hard way ? i could have just said nothing .. .
and i believe he doesnt have anything to do with the site... it may be just where he gets them from.
You should know that most legit Chinese sellers here are actually agents. But thanks for giving a heads up for the malware
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bobsag3
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March 09, 2014, 04:23:12 PM |
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This seller is scam? Anyone buy?
bobsag3 got a miner from them I think. Ask him. Not from him directly, but I have 4 on order with escrow thru him.
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March 09, 2014, 04:33:59 PM |
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This seller is scam? Anyone buy?
bobsag3 got a miner from them I think. Ask him. Not from him directly, but I have 4 on order with escrow thru him. Fair enough, I just know that you have your hands on these babies Are they good? Worth the investment?
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March 09, 2014, 04:50:33 PM |
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This seller is scam? Anyone buy?
bobsag3 got a miner from them I think. Ask him. Not from him directly, but I have 4 on order with escrow thru him. Fair enough, I just know that you have your hands on these babies Are they good? Worth the investment? Im happy with the one I got 3 weeks ago, no problems yet.
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March 09, 2014, 05:22:47 PM |
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This seller is scam? Anyone buy?
bobsag3 got a miner from them I think. Ask him. Not from him directly, but I have 4 on order with escrow thru him. Fair enough, I just know that you have your hands on these babies Are they good? Worth the investment? Im happy with the one I got 3 weeks ago, no problems yet. Thanks for the reply. Worth looking into
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helmax
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March 10, 2014, 01:42:13 AM |
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thanks bitcointalk Let be here these scammers !
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March 10, 2014, 10:34:48 AM |
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thanks bitcointalk Let be here these scammers !
Did you even read the notice from the board moderators? It is not their fault if you cannot make the right decision. It is your money so it is your responsibility not to allow someone to walk away with it.
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March 10, 2014, 10:44:11 AM |
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Nice guy, I got my miner 2 days ago yet no complaints, all right.
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pcfli (OP)
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March 10, 2014, 02:30:31 PM |
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No it is not the moderators or forums responsibility to police scammers. They simply can't.
This is coming from someone who has also been scammed by pcfli for 3.61014256 BTC. I will create the proper scam thread once I am able.
TRADE WITH EXTEME CAUTION ONLY USE TRUSTED ESCROW
I have no idea what you are talking, i never receive any btc from you, as a matter of fact, spiccioli send me more than 20 btc directly for joining my host plan, and i have let the miner mine for him today as i promise, i have no reason to cheat you here, i paste our completely chat record here, and i have warned you that you maybe cheated by someone else, [2014/3/9 4:13:23] fire juan: Hi! me interesed miners [2014/3/9 5:16:18] *** skypepcfli has shared contact details with fire juan. *** [2014/3/9 5:21:40] fire juan: Hi [2014/3/9 5:23:51] skypepcfli: hi [2014/3/9 5:24:06] skypepcfli: i have seen your eamil and just reply it [2014/3/9 5:25:42] fire juan: ok I see [2014/3/9 5:26:16] fire juan: I am firejuan on [Suspicious link removed] with title March Bitcoin. Thanks [2014/3/9 5:26:33] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:27:54] skypepcfli: sent [2014/3/9 5:28:26] skypepcfli: you said you have talked to me in skype and pay partial payment [2014/3/9 5:28:34] skypepcfli: are you cheated by some people [2014/3/9 5:28:59] skypepcfli: it seems like i just add you as contact this morning [2014/3/9 5:29:28] fire juan: no this is me [2014/3/9 5:29:37] fire juan: you confused [2014/3/9 5:29:53] fire juan: I'm just confused [2014/3/9 5:37:18] skypepcfli: on what [2014/3/9 5:38:14] fire juan: I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you [2014/3/9 5:38:17] fire juan: alright [2014/3/9 5:43:51] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:43:55] skypepcfli: i understand [2014/3/9 5:44:45] fire juan: I write to you in the evening and we'll talk to order, now you need to go [2014/3/9 5:44:47] fire juan: (handshake) [2014/3/9 5:52:05] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:52:17] skypepcfli: so you want buy two unit from me [2014/3/9 5:52:20] skypepcfli: am i right [2014/3/9 5:52:40] skypepcfli: the price now is 5000$ and the miner will send to you before 11 March [2014/3/9 7:31:15] skypepcfli: do you want to buy miners today
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March 10, 2014, 02:51:40 PM |
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No it is not the moderators or forums responsibility to police scammers. They simply can't.
This is coming from someone who has also been scammed by pcfli for 3.61014256 BTC. I will create the proper scam thread once I am able.
TRADE WITH EXTEME CAUTION ONLY USE TRUSTED ESCROW
I have no idea what you are talking, i never receive any btc from you, as a matter of fact, spiccioli send me more than 20 btc directly for joining my host plan, and i have let the miner mine for him today as i promise, i have no reason to cheat you here, i paste our completely chat record here, and i have warned you that you maybe cheated by someone else, [2014/3/9 4:13:23] fire juan: Hi! me interesed miners [2014/3/9 5:16:18] *** skypepcfli has shared contact details with fire juan. *** [2014/3/9 5:21:40] fire juan: Hi [2014/3/9 5:23:51] skypepcfli: hi [2014/3/9 5:24:06] skypepcfli: i have seen your eamil and just reply it [2014/3/9 5:25:42] fire juan: ok I see [2014/3/9 5:26:16] fire juan: I am firejuan on [Suspicious link removed] with title March Bitcoin. Thanks [2014/3/9 5:26:33] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:27:54] skypepcfli: sent [2014/3/9 5:28:26] skypepcfli: you said you have talked to me in skype and pay partial payment [2014/3/9 5:28:34] skypepcfli: are you cheated by some people [2014/3/9 5:28:59] skypepcfli: it seems like i just add you as contact this morning [2014/3/9 5:29:28] fire juan: no this is me [2014/3/9 5:29:37] fire juan: you confused [2014/3/9 5:29:53] fire juan: I'm just confused [2014/3/9 5:37:18] skypepcfli: on what [2014/3/9 5:38:14] fire juan: I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you [2014/3/9 5:38:17] fire juan: alright [2014/3/9 5:43:51] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:43:55] skypepcfli: i understand [2014/3/9 5:44:45] fire juan: I write to you in the evening and we'll talk to order, now you need to go [2014/3/9 5:44:47] fire juan: (handshake) [2014/3/9 5:52:05] skypepcfli: ok [2014/3/9 5:52:17] skypepcfli: so you want buy two unit from me [2014/3/9 5:52:20] skypepcfli: am i right [2014/3/9 5:52:40] skypepcfli: the price now is 5000$ and the miner will send to you before 11 March [2014/3/9 7:31:15] skypepcfli: do you want to buy miners today I will also confirm I have purchased units with escrow, and I already have tracking. He said he would ship monday- not only is he paying me .13 to make up for a small delay, but I will have them tomorrow.
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helmax
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March 10, 2014, 03:55:18 PM |
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this is fucking scammer !
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March 10, 2014, 04:19:28 PM |
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150 units of dragon 1T miner are brought into farms and another 400 unit will be added soon. WOW that is a lot of miners!!
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March 10, 2014, 05:15:16 PM |
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this is fucking scammer ! it is true that my name is peicai Li and from nantong china, and my id No. is 410223198209174051, and the ID number of my car is 苏F82C15, so if anyone want to learn more information about me, i will be very happy to provide. As for you, helmax, i have asked escrow.ms, he confirm that it is some one else fake his name just like they fake my name, I understand your felling of lost money, and i have send 0.1 btc today to you for comfort, i also promise i will send 0.1 btc to you for every deal i make until you get your money back , i also promise you can get 200$ discount for every miner you bought from me. why you still keep yelling to me. I don't want to judge your decision, but it is clearly a scamer if some one claim that you can buy one 1 T miner at the price of 4 btc today, if it is true, i guess the miners will be sold out in few hours.
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March 10, 2014, 06:46:54 PM |
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No this is not one claim. Here is partial evidence that: 1. You own the skype handle Skypepcfli (emphasis on that capital S) with a requested PM sent in skype repeated in the forum 2. Our conversation began Wednesday 3-5 not 3-9 as indicated by your fake conversation 3. That your typed skype conversation is fake. A picture is worth a thousand words. http://imgur.com/a/jBuVmBy the way I have 34 more of those to back me up. That is not his Skype account.
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March 10, 2014, 06:50:54 PM Last edit: March 10, 2014, 07:18:33 PM by cooldgamer |
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No this is not one claim. Here is partial evidence that: 1. You own the skype handle Skypepcfli (emphasis on that capital S) with a requested PM sent in skype repeated in the forum 2. Our conversation began Wednesday 3-5 not 3-9 as indicated by your fake conversation 3. That your typed skype conversation is fake. A picture is worth a thousand words. http://imgur.com/a/jBuVmBy the way I have 34 more of those to back me up. That is not his Skype account. I can confirm this, got on a video call with him a little while ago when we were considering a gb. His account name is in all lowercase Edit: This isn't a vouch for pcfli, I'm simply saying the Skype account isn't the one I talked to. If that PM is real than it does look like a scam. Always use escrow and PM them on here first
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helmax
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March 10, 2014, 07:20:12 PM |
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No this is not one claim. Here is partial evidence that: 1. You own the skype handle Skypepcfli (emphasis on that capital S) with a requested PM sent in skype repeated in the forum 2. Our conversation began Wednesday 3-5 not 3-9 as indicated by your fake conversation 3. That your typed skype conversation is fake. A picture is worth a thousand words. http://imgur.com/a/jBuVmBy the way I have 34 more of those to back me up. That is not his Skype account. is always same guy!! doesn't matter name on skype is always same guy also ecscrow.ms fake is him
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March 10, 2014, 11:22:40 PM |
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So how did the skype account send me a bitcointalk.org PM with the same message March Bitcoin.
that is what happened, this guy called fire juan add me as contact in 9-March, i never talked to him before that you can see the auto-sent messenger from skype in the beginning of the chat, he asked me to send him a PM and i do it as he wish, then i have realized at that time that there is something wrong because he said that he have sent me part of payment but i never see and i have warned him. he explained that it is other seller that he confused.
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March 11, 2014, 01:24:55 AM |
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Firejuan, what is the complaint here?
Scammers should be outed, but can you please show some evidence of a failed transaction.
The 1th are not shipping yet, did you order the 200gh units? FYI the fourm shows GMT time so while its the 10th where I am, it says 11th already. I don't see anything yet to found any accusations.
Screen cap of the order confirmed, or blockchiain payment record would be great.
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Better yet here is a PM from you sent 3-8 0901 with part of that fake "skype conversation" pulled from there. It is not easy to fake a forum PM is it.
That caused by the different time zone, China are 8 hours ahead the time used in the forum, the local time is 9:55 AM when i post this reply, but it is 1:55 AM as shown in forum
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March 11, 2014, 02:17:16 AM |
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Better yet here is a PM from you sent 3-8 0901 with part of that fake "skype conversation" pulled from there. It is not easy to fake a forum PM is it.
That caused by the different time zone, China are 8 hours ahead the time used in the forum, the local time is 9:55 AM when i post this reply, but it is 1:55 AM as shown in forum Was going to say this. Pretty normal... skype displays your local time not their time. Same with the forum (although not everyone bothers to set the forum time...) And looks like I should get my 3 units tomorrow, and I was promised .13btc per day x3 for the delay... will report back.
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March 11, 2014, 03:21:02 AM |
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That caused by the different time zone, China are 8 hours ahead the time used in the forum, the local time is 9:55 AM when i post this reply, but it is 1:55 AM as shown in forum
send our money fucking scammer!! @firejuan you can post my screenshot if you want burn this scammer
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March 11, 2014, 03:36:31 AM |
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it is true that my name is peicai Li and from nantong china, and my id No. is 410223198209174051, and the ID number of my car is 苏F82C15, so if anyone want to
id card and id number car is not same province
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March 11, 2014, 05:21:34 AM |
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Firejuan, what is the complaint here?
Scammers should be outed, but can you please show some evidence of a failed transaction.
The 1th are not shipping yet, did you order the 200gh units? FYI the fourm shows GMT time so while its the 10th where I am, it says 11th already. I don't see anything yet to found any accusations.
Screen cap of the order confirmed, or blockchiain payment record would be great.
Please explain, the screen caps you posted don't say much...... Did you have a confirmed order? what exactly did you order and when? Your convo he qutoed 2@5000ea, so your 3.6 btc is confusing. Help me and others figure out if this is legit or not.
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March 11, 2014, 05:50:16 PM |
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wow, well this is bad for business...
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March 11, 2014, 06:27:11 PM |
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I hope everything works out for everyone.
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March 11, 2014, 07:48:45 PM |
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March 11, 2014, 08:52:13 PM |
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Has anyone here taken up the hosting package? Is it as expected? Obviously one can't easily do escrow for several months hashing.
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March 11, 2014, 10:16:30 PM |
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I've seen my name on a couple of screenshots and so I need to clarify that:
- I have three units hosted with user pcfli which I've paid in full on march 8th, so if he is a scammer I'm in a worse position than most here. - Units started hashing March 10th around 10:00 AM GMT+1, so they have been working for a day and a half.
So far my experience with pcfli has been good, units are working and started working the day they had to.
I'd say scammers take a few orders and then disappear, here instead it seems that pcfli has already sent several units abroad and keeps sending them.
Something does not add up.
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March 11, 2014, 10:23:25 PM |
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WELL KNOWN SCAMMER BE WARNED HE SPEAK LIKE CHINEE DON WON TO SAY I TOLD YU SO
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March 11, 2014, 10:56:00 PM |
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WELL KNOWN SCAMMER BE WARNED HE SPEAK LIKE CHINEE DON WON TO SAY I TOLD YU SO
Bro WTF? ? You signed up on the 19th of Feb and ALL your posts are scam accusations. Can you elaborate?
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March 11, 2014, 11:54:09 PM |
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Can you elaborate?
Competition Seriously though, I have no idea whether pcfli is legit or not, but no one really brought up anything substantial against him, except one guy whose wife told him to get a refund While pcfli could do better explaining his side of the story, I still don't see how shouting in big red letters is helping anyone. Twitter generation can't seem to put together a single coherent sentence.
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March 12, 2014, 12:53:36 AM |
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No, he also pulled this scam with member @helmax. Can you elaborate?
Competition Seriously though, I have no idea whether pcfli is legit or not, but no one really brought up anything substantial against him, except one guy whose wife told him to get a refund While pcfli could do better explaining his side of the story, I still don't see how shouting in big red letters is helping anyone. Twitter generation can't seem to put together a single coherent sentence. My question wasn't directed to you juan. It was at the newbie that just came in shouting in bold red letters that this is a scam. I do not know what to say to you other than: maybe next time use escrow? No1 rule. Make sure that your investment is solid. If you can't do that, get out of the game. You probably know first hand by now that this is a tough game. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to put you down or something but once you have sent the money it is gone. Make sure you know where your BTC is sent. That is all I am trying to say.
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March 12, 2014, 01:47:32 AM |
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As a long standing member of this forum I respect your position, all I can ask is that you look at the forum PM I received from pcfli that I requested from Skype account Skypepcfli (capital S) with the line "March Bitcoin". These two images were taken directly from my phone while he posts some hacked together files. I also have proof I initiated contact Wednesday 3-5 when he claims that I didn't contact him until Sunday 3-9 (-5 GMT). Again I have images to back this up.
Would it not be the MO of a scammer to establish a legit account to establish some credit ability then run some side deals to rip people of and claim innocence?
My BTC are gone but I know what this guy is and I don't want anyone else to lose their BTC from a bad decision.
Let's be fair, screenshots are about as easy to fake as anything else on the interwebpipes. Could you please just simply lay out the timeline of events and why you think pcfli is scammer, i.e. 1) who contacted whom first? Wednesday? via Skype? why? 2) there was an exchange of PMs? why? just to prove you and/or him are who you claim you are? 3) then money changed hands? blockchain link? what exactly was promised to be delivered and when? 4) you decided to get a refund, what did pcfli tell you? 5) at what point did you decide pcfli was scamming you? where does his supposedly "fake" skype conversation come in? I have reviewed all your posts, which are essentially a couple of screenshots repeated over and over again and I still can't make any sense of it, mainly because the sequence of events as you describe them just don't connect. You are also accusing pcfli of posting doctored skype logs, although his seem to be as legit as yours. You also seem to be trolling some other threads with scam accusations, why? Other supposed victims haven't explained anything at all, and pcfli is not saying much either. By the way Skype names are not case sensitive. That, and the weird "accent" your "character" has in pcfli's screenshot seem to support you case. So if you want this to be taken seriously please spend a few minutes and put together the full story. Thanks!
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March 12, 2014, 07:02:24 AM Last edit: March 12, 2014, 07:19:55 AM by ppprk |
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I fully agree with suchmoon please firejuan just tell full story from A to Z that exactly where and when first time you contacted with pcfli and yes skype id not case sensitive. so just start your new thread on scam section and post all story from start whom contact first? you ? or pcfli? you claimed that you was sent pm on forum to pcfli right? and they replied you and confirm you that they same guy as you talking with skype id with capital S? so before pm on forum you was already sent them any BTC? why you NOT use escrow for deal? if you used escrow already so that mean you also use faked escrow skype id? mean you so silly to got scammed via NOT one but 2 fake skype ids of scammer? and you only know this after you sent all your BTCs? please post all transaction ids of BTC sent via blockchain.info links and please make very clear large screen short of pm message you received from pcfli? and also not sure how other guy "Helmax" on forum also got scammed? I requested this other guy "Helmax" please come here and write full story too so everyone can decide if this guy pcfli is scammer or not but I thing there is some thing wrong with this guy pcfli as how its possible 2 guys lost arround 13 BTCs via same guy pcfli so called fake ids and this guy pcfli still shows its innocent? most important thing is how first contact start and how your skype id got by some fake scammer id? while firejuan skype id only known to pcfli? and also Helmax how your skype id got by some scammer? please post all story so all thing may be clear that what exactly happened?? thanks As a long standing member of this forum I respect your position, all I can ask is that you look at the forum PM I received from pcfli that I requested from Skype account Skypepcfli (capital S) with the line "March Bitcoin". These two images were taken directly from my phone while he posts some hacked together files. I also have proof I initiated contact Wednesday 3-5 when he claims that I didn't contact him until Sunday 3-9 (-5 GMT). Again I have images to back this up.
Would it not be the MO of a scammer to establish a legit account to establish some credit ability then run some side deals to rip people of and claim innocence?
My BTC are gone but I know what this guy is and I don't want anyone else to lose their BTC from a bad decision.
Let's be fair, screenshots are about as easy to fake as anything else on the interwebpipes. Could you please just simply lay out the timeline of events and why you think pcfli is scammer, i.e. 1) who contacted whom first? Wednesday? via Skype? why? 2) there was an exchange of PMs? why? just to prove you and/or him are who you claim you are? 3) then money changed hands? blockchain link? what exactly was promised to be delivered and when? 4) you decided to get a refund, what did pcfli tell you? 5) at what point did you decide pcfli was scamming you? where does his supposedly "fake" skype conversation come in? I have reviewed all your posts, which are essentially a couple of screenshots repeated over and over again and I still can't make any sense of it, mainly because the sequence of events as you describe them just don't connect. You are also accusing pcfli of posting doctored skype logs, although his seem to be as legit as yours. You also seem to be trolling some other threads with scam accusations, why? Other supposed victims haven't explained anything at all, and pcfli is not saying much either. By the way Skype names are not case sensitive. That, and the weird "accent" your "character" has in pcfli's screenshot seem to support you case. So if you want this to be taken seriously please spend a few minutes and put together the full story. Thanks!
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March 12, 2014, 07:10:35 AM |
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it is true that my name is peicai Li and from nantong china, and my id No. is 410223198209174051, and the ID number of my car is 苏F82C15, so if anyone want to
id card and id number car is not same province hi helmax I just seen you got scammed by pcfli I replied as above https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488372.msg5654437#msg5654437please post full story how and where you contacted with pcfli first time? and A to Z story so if this guy scammer then must be banned or got red negative ratings to avoid others to got scammed same as you waiting for you thanks
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March 12, 2014, 09:22:30 AM |
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March 12, 2014, 10:22:01 AM |
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It's still not very clear exactly what happened. How did you get the skype contact? tell us the whole story in clear steps.
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March 12, 2014, 10:30:24 AM |
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how do you get contacts skypes?
bahh this is guy is scammer If you want to believe you believe otherwise if not is your problem
i lost my money is big pain already warning tired...
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March 12, 2014, 11:29:02 AM |
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how do you get contacts skypes?
bahh this is guy is scammer If you want to believe you believe otherwise if not is your problem
i lost my money is big pain already warning tired...
I don't know, there's lots of different ways, that's why I asked. I never said I didn't believe you, I just said an ordered structured explaenation of exactly what went on would help. Clearly you had ecsrow.ms, not escrow.ms as a Skype contact. How you got that contact is really important in this case.
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March 12, 2014, 03:06:45 PM |
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Like helmax said do what you want with the information.
We would if we had more credible information, but right now you are not doing any favors to yourself or to other potential buyers by refusing to elaborate on your story. It's up to you really, I'm just not sure what you expected from this, other than vent your frustration.
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March 12, 2014, 05:14:30 PM Last edit: July 25, 2017, 11:21:13 PM by pcfli |
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Pls delete
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March 12, 2014, 06:20:20 PM |
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Can you elaborate?
Competition Seriously though, I have no idea whether pcfli is legit or not, but no one really brought up anything substantial against him, except one guy whose wife told him to get a refund While pcfli could do better explaining his side of the story, I still don't see how shouting in big red letters is helping anyone. Twitter generation can't seem to put together a single coherent sentence. i know this people and am doing u a favor this is scam scam scam
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March 12, 2014, 06:45:58 PM Last edit: March 12, 2014, 07:08:12 PM by Phreakerx |
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Even if FireJuan were lying (which I don't think is the case here) his story lines up with what scammer says better than what scammer actually says.
FireJuan thinks skype he was talking to was under control by scammer. Scammer verified this by posting about their interactions here. Scammer states that account was different because of a capital letter. That is complete bullshit, skype does not operate that way. Scammer still owns Skype acct in question. FireJuan says he/friend sent coin to scammer on address scammer provided. Little weird, but not really pertinent to this analysis. Scammer says that he didn't get coin, even though he provided address in skype to FireJuan. I can't verify he got it, or that FireJuan sent it, but scammer has already been proven a liar at this point.
TL:DR FireJuan could be lying or telling the truth about sending coin it really doesn't matter, the scammer would have to be lying at least about the Skype account and possibly about receiving payment already too.
Unless I am missing something, this is what I see. Edited: to put FireJuan in place of Helmax.
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March 12, 2014, 07:32:31 PM |
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The more I see new accounts posting that this is scam the more I think that it is not. WTF? ?? In the end, bobsag ordered 3 units using escrow and he got them....
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Even if FireJuan were lying (which I don't think is the case here) his story lines up with what scammer says better than what scammer actually says.
FireJuan thinks skype he was talking to was under control by scammer. Scammer verified this by posting about their interactions here. Scammer states that account was different because of a capital letter. That is complete bullshit, skype does not operate that way. Scammer still owns Skype acct in question. FireJuan says he/friend sent coin to scammer on address scammer provided. Little weird, but not really pertinent to this analysis. Scammer says that he didn't get coin, even though he provided address in skype to FireJuan. I can't verify he got it, or that FireJuan sent it, but scammer has already been proven a liar at this point.
TL:DR FireJuan could be lying or telling the truth about sending coin it really doesn't matter, the scammer would have to be lying at least about the Skype account and possibly about receiving payment already too.
Unless I am missing something, this is what I see. Edited: to put FireJuan in place of Helmax.
To clarify Skype names to those who are not familiar with the service: What you see in all these screenshots provided by firejuan, helmax etc are NOT skype usernames. What you see are "display" names, such as first/last name, or pseudonym. And these can be duplicated, there could be many users named "John Smith" or "skypepcfli". To see the actual user ID you need to right-click on the display name and choose "View Profile" (that's in the desktop version, not sure about mobile). These user IDs are unique, and case insensitive (AFAIK). I don't believe there were any screenshots posted with the actual Skype user IDs, but there was at least one screenshot with both "Skypepcfli" and "skypepcfli" display names in it, showing the possible duplication: http://imgur.com/3yz1hlx (look at the left side of that image) So looking at Skype display names can't prove anything. It's is possible if somewhat improbable that someone searched for "skypepcfli", contacted the wrong person, and got scammed. This still doesn't line up with some other statements made earlier in this thread, but until the supposed victims come up with some sort of coherent story that's all we got.
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@s4vv4s You have a newer account than I my friend! Kinda funny that's your truth gauge but to each his own I suppose, lol. I guess I should start with... I am a miner since the awesome avalon boxes. Kept buying a little hardware here and there to keep making a few bucks. I was looking for KnC competition since I have some money in them right now, and found this ad for the 1T. I hate being lied to, BFL, Josh and that whole crew have really made me hate scammers and liars (same thing in my book) even more than your normal person. I was going to write up a huge post about all the inconsistencies in the story (both sides) but then realized just one piece of info is actually in contention here. His own words. on: February 26, 2014, 06:33:53 AM and on: February 26, 2014, 08:54:23 AM and on: March 08, 2014, 11:07:04 PM "So if you want to join this host plan, PM me or send a mail to peicaili@gmail.com or add me skype:Skypepcfli. By the way, if you do not want to join this hosting plan and just want buy a miner from me, you can also contact me via above method" I suppose in hindsight that this could be a typo, not realizing that it was a capital vs regular, not thinking that this would be a problem etc. Per suchmoon that doesn't even matter because it is a display name not an actual skype ID. @ suchmoon: Good call, I am not a normal skype user, didn't realize display vs ID. That screenshot, is of Helmax not of FireJuan, I believe. If it is Fire's, that is pretty damning evidence of him being in contact with the "real" Pcfli and the "Scammer" Pcfli. Weird he also has Escrow.ms in there (not .ns or ecsrow interestingly enough) But for this to be the case, and the scammer not be the real pcfli, Fire would have had to sent out 2 messages to two different skypes requesting proof on Bitcointalk. I guess more info is needed of Fire. Since I am not that fluent in skype I have a few formatting questions as well. I noticed in one post here that the dates seem a little loopy. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fi5yck8.jpg&t=538&c=tTubmnTyG7qCBA
Is it normal for "yesterdays" conversation to be on the 5th but then having a date of the 9th? "As for the other guys called helmax the thing is much simple , i didnot know him until tomatocage tell me he raise a scam issue against me and he add me in skype in 9 march and start the first conversation with me in 10 March and keep saying “send my money back” But that screenshot you posted does show that it was on march 5th (screenshots are not evidence) https://blockchain.info/address/1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9DWhen going through the address he (helmax) posted there is no 4.7 BTC transfer either These are blockchain addresses pulled from each persons posts here. real Pcfli addy 1BNwtEPanWJ9VLdiJebtykQJgk3eEZFh52 Scam Pcfli 1Fyx2kNB4Uov3cDxPSxPoJPZstTLDhYHXc hellmax addy 1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9D Fire 1BxfGpHkgKvZWoQHZN1NzagE3hTpjm33LX Fire2nd 17cg5SSUcqr1f7i2rvEyqrQh49sTfCgSM2 Fire sends coin to Scammer addy. https://blockchain.info/tx/ed4af3d96e9aa510fa580016ae2cd85d3efb79fb8747c6747d40d8c3a3d6c026But hell receives coin from scammer address https://blockchain.info/tx/a3358ce0af52c760c1f30660f44394067fd1f6409ebb405fa0f4f6f6a6a1b224Can someone 2x check to make sure I didn't screw something up? The more I dig, the less I think I know. Nothing is adding up here.
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Firejuan: Scammer! got me for 3.6 btc Helmax: Scammer! Got me for 4.6? btc Forum: Really? show us details please Shown many pics of confusion, even in "first" convo firejuan admitted he was confusing two people.
I think so far that from what is shown, that pcfli makes deals through escrow and honors them. <- not being disputed
Fire juan and helmax sent money thinking it was pcfli, however no-one has shown a bad deal. ex, "yeah i'll sell you X for _$/btc, pay here...." then OK ship to___ payment sent on___date and TXid is...."
Show us a bad deal, but so far i see pcfli as innocent and someone has used his ad/name likeness for scamming people.
Show me different.
Read this again, I editied for ease of reading and added puncuation. no words changed.
skypepcfli: you said you have talked to me in skype and pay partial payment, are you cheated by some people? it seems like i just add you as contact this morning?
fire juan: no this is me, you confused, I'm just confused
skypepcfli: on what?
fire juan: I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you alright?
skypepcfli: i understand.
fire juan: I write to you in the evening and we'll talk to order, now you need to go fire juan: (handshake)
skypepcfli: ok so you want buy two unit from me? am i right? the price now is 5000$ and the miner will send to you before 11 March. 2 hours later do you want to buy miners today?
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@s4vv4s You have a newer account than I my friend! Kinda funny that's your truth gauge but to each his own I suppose, lol. I guess I should start with... I am a miner since the awesome avalon boxes. Kept buying a little hardware here and there to keep making a few bucks. I was looking for KnC competition since I have some money in them right now, and found this ad for the 1T. I hate being lied to, BFL, Josh and that whole crew have really made me hate scammers and liars (same thing in my book) even more than your normal person. I was going to write up a huge post about all the inconsistencies in the story (both sides) but then realized just one piece of info is actually in contention here. His own words. on: February 26, 2014, 06:33:53 AM and on: February 26, 2014, 08:54:23 AM and on: March 08, 2014, 11:07:04 PM "So if you want to join this host plan, PM me or send a mail to peicaili@gmail.com or add me skype:Skypepcfli. By the way, if you do not want to join this hosting plan and just want buy a miner from me, you can also contact me via above method" I suppose in hindsight that this could be a typo, not realizing that it was a capital vs regular, not thinking that this would be a problem etc. Per suchmoon that doesn't even matter because it is a display name not an actual skype ID. @ suchmoon: Good call, I am not a normal skype user, didn't realize display vs ID. That screenshot, is of Helmax not of FireJuan, I believe. If it is Fire's, that is pretty damning evidence of him being in contact with the "real" Pcfli and the "Scammer" Pcfli. Weird he also has Escrow.ms in there (not .ns or ecsrow interestingly enough) But for this to be the case, and the scammer not be the real pcfli, Fire would have had to sent out 2 messages to two different skypes requesting proof on Bitcointalk. I guess more info is needed of Fire. Since I am not that fluent in skype I have a few formatting questions as well. I noticed in one post here that the dates seem a little loopy. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fi5yck8.jpg&t=538&c=tTubmnTyG7qCBA
Is it normal for "yesterdays" conversation to be on the 5th but then having a date of the 9th? "As for the other guys called helmax the thing is much simple , i didnot know him until tomatocage tell me he raise a scam issue against me and he add me in skype in 9 march and start the first conversation with me in 10 March and keep saying “send my money back” But that screenshot you posted does show that it was on march 5th (screenshots are not evidence) https://blockchain.info/address/1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9DWhen going through the address he (helmax) posted there is no 4.7 BTC transfer either These are blockchain addresses pulled from each persons posts here. real Pcfli addy 1BNwtEPanWJ9VLdiJebtykQJgk3eEZFh52 Scam Pcfli 1Fyx2kNB4Uov3cDxPSxPoJPZstTLDhYHXc hellmax addy 1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9D Fire 1BxfGpHkgKvZWoQHZN1NzagE3hTpjm33LX Fire2nd 17cg5SSUcqr1f7i2rvEyqrQh49sTfCgSM2 Fire sends coin to Scammer addy. https://blockchain.info/tx/ed4af3d96e9aa510fa580016ae2cd85d3efb79fb8747c6747d40d8c3a3d6c026But hell receives coin from scammer address https://blockchain.info/tx/a3358ce0af52c760c1f30660f44394067fd1f6409ebb405fa0f4f6f6a6a1b224Can someone 2x check to make sure I didn't screw something up? The more I dig, the less I think I know. Nothing is adding up here. You have registered an account before me yes. But you have only posted twice and this is the second time and both at the same thread. What gives? Listen, I couldn't care less if you lost money ( I am being honest here) because it is your responsibility to make sure that you don't. But when you show up here and start accusing people you yourself should be a bit more "legit" let's say. That being said, A fool and his money..... If you lost money, I am sorry but you are stupid and that is why you lost it. It means you shouldn't have had it in the first place because you DIDN'T RESPECT IT. Don't get me wrong and don't get started. It is the hard cold truth.
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@ suchmoon: Good call, I am not a normal skype user, didn't realize display vs ID. That screenshot, is of Helmax not of FireJuan, I believe. If it is Fire's, that is pretty damning evidence of him being in contact with the "real" Pcfli and the "Scammer" Pcfli. Weird he also has Escrow.ms in there (not .ns or ecsrow interestingly enough) But for this to be the case, and the scammer not be the real pcfli, Fire would have had to sent out 2 messages to two different skypes requesting proof on Bitcointalk. I guess more info is needed of Fire. Since I am not that fluent in skype I have a few formatting questions as well. I noticed in one post here that the dates seem a little loopy. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fi5yck8.jpg&t=538&c=tTubmnTyG7qCBA
Is it normal for "yesterdays" conversation to be on the 5th but then having a date of the 9th? Yes, that screenshot of "skypepcfli" + "Skypepcfli" was from helmax, sorry, I should have made it clear. Doesn't prove that firejuan contacted two different Skype users, just suggests a possibility. As for Skype's "Yesterday" screenshot, it seems to be legit. The first line shows options to click on, i.e. show messages from Yesterday, 7 days, etc and the last option is "From Beginning". When you click on "From Beginning" it shows the date of whatever Skype considers the beginning of that message log, and then all messages grouped by day. So in this case it does not mean that "Yesterday" was 2014-03-05. It just means that 2014-03-05 was probably less than 7 days ago (since there is no 7 days or other options to click on) and that Skype is showing messages STARTING from 2014-03-05. Here is an example of a longer conversation history: Compare to pcfli's version: So it would seem to show that there were no messages between 2014-03-05 and 2014-03-08 and they first shared contact details on 2014-03-09.
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not that it is his addy.
Unfortunately he seems totally unwilling to give a clear account of exactly what happened.
I'm still just as confused on him as before, lol. Firejuan: Scammer! got me for 3.6 btc Helmax: Scammer! Got me for 4.6? btc Forum: Really? show us details please Shown many pics of confusion, even in "first" convo firejuan admitted he was confusing two people.
I think so far that from what is shown, that pcfli makes deals through escrow and honors them. <- not being disputed
Fire juan and helmax sent money thinking it was pcfli, however no-one has shown a bad deal. ex, "yeah i'll sell you X for _$/btc, pay here...." then OK ship to___ payment sent on___date and TXid is...."
Show us a bad deal, but so far i see pcfli as innocent and someone has used his ad/name likeness for scamming people.
Show me different.
Read this again, I editied for ease of reading and added puncuation. no words changed.
skypepcfli: you said you have talked to me in skype and pay partial payment, are you cheated by some people? it seems like i just add you as contact this morning?
fire juan: no this is me, you confused, I'm just confused
skypepcfli: on what?
fire juan: I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you alright?
skypepcfli: i understand.
fire juan: I write to you in the evening and we'll talk to order, now you need to go fire juan: (handshake)
skypepcfli: ok so you want buy two unit from me? am i right? the price now is 5000$ and the miner will send to you before 11 March. 2 hours later do you want to buy miners today?
Yea that weird language bothered me also. between fire and pcfli the pics they posted have different dates, which also means OG contact dates were edited. someone edited something, who is the question! that pcfli makes deals through escrow and honors them. This is the only fact I have seen thus far, lol. You have registered an account before me yes. But you have only posted twice and this is the second time and both at the same thread. What gives?
Listen, I couldn't care less if you lost money ( I am being honest here) because it is your responsibility to make sure that you don't. But when you show up here and start accusing people you yourself should be a bit more "legit" let's say.
That being said, A fool and his money.....
If you lost money, I am sorry but you are stupid and that is why you lost it. It means you shouldn't have had it in the first place because you DIDN'T RESPECT IT.
Don't get me wrong and don't get started. It is the hard cold truth.
I pasted it here for ya this time! I guess I should start with... I am a miner since the awesome avalon boxes. Kept buying a little hardware here and there to keep making a few bucks. I was looking for KnC competition since I have some money in them right now, and found this ad for the 1T. I hate being lied to, BFL, Josh and that whole crew have really made me hate scammers and liars (same thing in my book) even more than your normal person. Lost isn't the same as unrealized otherwise I would probably be all up in BFL and that suit, but that is neither here nor there. Peoples grandparents that lost their savings in the stock market, all the fellow coiners (myself included) that got goxxed , hidden fees on peoples bank accounts, They are all stupid huh? You have already started and you are already wrong, so I can't get you to either place. Pcfli, you have gotten desperate and sloppy. I don't care about the bitcoins because I know they are gone but you will not make me out to be a liar.
I have not responded to this because I have been asleep. I unfortunately don't have time to further despite everything because I am going to work. I work third shift in the United States not Korea.
By the way if that fake Gmail account was mine, I would have a mod remove my personal information, but since it is not I don't care.
Fire Juan where did that BTC address you sent BCT to come from? I think that would be most helpful to know. Yes, that screenshot of "skypepcfli" + "Skypepcfli" was from helmax, sorry, I should have made it clear. Doesn't prove that firejuan contacted two different Skype users, just suggests a possibility. As for Skype's "Yesterday" screenshot, it seems to be legit. The first line shows options to click on, i.e. show messages from Yesterday, 7 days, etc and the last option is "From Beginning". When you click on "From Beginning" it shows the date of whatever Skype considers the beginning of that message log, and then all messages grouped by day. So in this case it does not mean that "Yesterday" was 2014-03-05. It just means that 2014-03-05 was probably less than 7 days ago (since there is no 7 days or other options to click on) and that Skype is showing messages STARTING from 2014-03-05. Here is an example of a longer conversation history: http://i.snag.gy/547LW.jpgCompare to pcfli's version: http://i.snag.gy/qFQbH.jpgSo it would seem to show that there were no messages between 2014-03-05 and 2014-03-08 and they first shared contact details on 2014-03-09. Would message log begin before contact is made? Is 03/05 signup date or something else maybe?
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Would message log begin before contact is made? Is 03/05 signup date or something else maybe?
Apparently it can begin before first contact, and it's not a fixed date, can be different depending on when you look at it and/or what you clicked to get there. Skype is clunky like that. But this at least shows that either a) the screenshots are legit; or b) the screenshots were doctored with an incredible attention to detail
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I would like to try out. Here is my BTC-address: 16EjAzEFUZWVwqBGZ6VdaTSHkpCPz11AJ8
not available right now, i will switch one miner to your account when available Still waiting..
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I would like to try out. Here is my BTC-address: 16EjAzEFUZWVwqBGZ6VdaTSHkpCPz11AJ8
not available right now, i will switch one miner to your account when available Still waiting.. free test is closed, because nobody send the btc mined back to me, lost about 0.5 btc, so no free test are provided now
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I would like to try out. Here is my BTC-address: 16EjAzEFUZWVwqBGZ6VdaTSHkpCPz11AJ8
not available right now, i will switch one miner to your account when available Still waiting.. free test is closed, because nobody send the btc mined back to me, lost about 0.5 btc, so no free test are provided now Either way: that’s pretty lame
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I ordered 1 miner with pcfli. It is now up and hashing on my pool. Happy with that so far.
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Antminer S2 is coming, the price is 3899$ and promise to ship before 1 Apr, Here is the description of AntMiner S2 SPEC: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5* Hash rate: more than 1,000GH/s * Power consumption: 1,000W from the wall * Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s * PSU: 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold * 4U Rack * PSU inside * Plug and Mining * Stable and quiet Now you can see whether the dragon 1T miner shipped in 19 March priced 4100$ is worth to buy, only less than 10 unit is available now
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Antminer S2 is coming, the price is 3899$ and promise to ship before 1 Apr, Here is the description of AntMiner S2 SPEC: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5* Hash rate: more than 1,000GH/s * Power consumption: 1,000W from the wall * Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s * PSU: 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold * 4U Rack * PSU inside * Plug and Mining * Stable and quiet Now you can see whether the dragon 1T miner shipped in 19 March priced 4100$ is worth to buy, only less than 10 unit is available now I mean no disrespect but Bitmain is trustworthy.
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Do you have the JT miner as well? I wonder how the two brands compare. Would love to see a report!
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Antminer S2 is coming, the price is 3899$ and promise to ship before 1 Apr, Here is the description of AntMiner S2 SPEC: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5* Hash rate: more than 1,000GH/s * Power consumption: 1,000W from the wall * Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s * PSU: 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold * 4U Rack * PSU inside * Plug and Mining * Stable and quiet Now you can see whether the dragon 1T miner shipped in 19 March priced 4100$ is worth to buy, only less than 10 unit is available now I mean no disrespect but Bitmain is trustworthy. I respect bitmain, they had built their reputation in the last year, but please keep an eye on me and dragon 1T miner, the factory producing dragon 1T is just as reputable as antminer in china
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Do you have the JT miner as well? I wonder how the two brands compare. Would love to see a report! I haven't seen this machine yet, but as i know, dragon 1T sells much better than JT miner in china, let's say, most of the 1T miner you can find in china is dragon 1T, that definitely prove something
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Antminer S2 is coming, the price is 3899$ and promise to ship before 1 Apr, Here is the description of AntMiner S2 SPEC: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5* Hash rate: more than 1,000GH/s * Power consumption: 1,000W from the wall * Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s * PSU: 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold * 4U Rack * PSU inside * Plug and Mining * Stable and quiet Now you can see whether the dragon 1T miner shipped in 19 March priced 4100$ is worth to buy, only less than 10 unit is available now I mean no disrespect but Bitmain is trustworthy. I respect bitmain, they had built their reputation in the last year, but please keep an eye on me and dragon 1T miner, the factory producing dragon 1T is just as reputable as antminer in china Be competitive. Offer something that Bitmain can't. Then you might have me as your customer. Once again I mean no disrespect.
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bitmain did a great work in the last year, i respect them, they deserve additional price for their reputation. I will follow them this year and try my best to provide stable miner with competitive price. For now, i can provide two special thing, first: i accept escrow and paypal, second, i provide compensate if the delivery is delayed
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bitmain is sold out, so it's moot.
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March 17, 2014, 10:08:39 AM |
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bitmain is sold out, so it's moot.
Batch 2 is still open. But that ships Apr 10. So far pcfli has the better deal. Once pcfli has established more trust, his business will boom!
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bitmain is sold out, so it's moot.
Batch 2 is still open. But that ships Apr 10. So far pcfli has the better deal. Once pcfli has established more trust, his business will boom! You are the man who i want to thank mostly for your trust and send me more than 10 btc directly even i was a newbie in forum. I have post the hash rate of your hosting miner at the top of my thread as advertisement, it is a proof of my honest.
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@ suchmoon: Good call, I am not a normal skype user, didn't realize display vs ID. That screenshot, is of Helmax not of FireJuan, I believe. If it is Fire's, that is pretty damning evidence of him being in contact with the "real" Pcfli and the "Scammer" Pcfli. Weird he also has Escrow.ms in there (not .ns or ecsrow interestingly enough) But for this to be the case, and the scammer not be the real pcfli, Fire would have had to sent out 2 messages to two different skypes requesting proof on Bitcointalk. I guess more info is needed of Fire. Since I am not that fluent in skype I have a few formatting questions as well. I noticed in one post here that the dates seem a little loopy. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fi5yck8.jpg&t=538&c=tTubmnTyG7qCBA
Is it normal for "yesterdays" conversation to be on the 5th but then having a date of the 9th? Yes, that screenshot of "skypepcfli" + "Skypepcfli" was from helmax, sorry, I should have made it clear. Doesn't prove that firejuan contacted two different Skype users, just suggests a possibility. As for Skype's "Yesterday" screenshot, it seems to be legit. The first line shows options to click on, i.e. show messages from Yesterday, 7 days, etc and the last option is "From Beginning". When you click on "From Beginning" it shows the date of whatever Skype considers the beginning of that message log, and then all messages grouped by day. So in this case it does not mean that "Yesterday" was 2014-03-05. It just means that 2014-03-05 was probably less than 7 days ago (since there is no 7 days or other options to click on) and that Skype is showing messages STARTING from 2014-03-05. Here is an example of a longer conversation history: Compare to pcfli's version: So it would seem to show that there were no messages between 2014-03-05 and 2014-03-08 and they first shared contact details on 2014-03-09. I contacted Skypepcfli because that was in the OP as pointed outed by another member in a previous post. Unfortunately, I do not think many members of this forum care since pcfli has gone legit since he stole money from a few people and his scam was outed through helmax's scam thread. I am done posting screenshots as several members stated these can easily be manipulated and this was proven to me by pcfli in this thread. Fake Skype accounts are also his specialty. My Skype username is Fire Juan (capital F and J). I honestly did not know since I use my Hotmail account to log into Skype and my lack of experience with Skype (so that forum PM screenshot was real). Now, with that being said that means my Microsoft Live ID is firejuan22 thus making my email firejuan22@hotmail.com. Feel free to contact me through either of those accounts and request a forum PM and I will happily to reply. I did contact pcfli through is his "real" Skype account skypepcfli, but I waited a few days for specific reasons. The Skype conversation between fire juan and skypepcfli was not me, but those are real screenshots. I am going to create my own thread in the appropriate forum section with details and better proof of how pcfli scammed, stole, rip offed, etc. I have had time to collect my thoughts and more evidence. I only have a few minutes here and there to log onto the forum because I have been working 13+ hours days since Wednesday night when pcfli made his reply and will not stop until Wednesday morning. i never see your btc, if what you said is ture, it seems like that we are both fooled by the same scammer, i have notice that two people have send me email from different email address and said it is fire juan, one is firejuanchen@gmail.com and another firejuan22@hotmail.com and there are two people in my skype contact too named fire juan, but the real skype name is xantrax125rus and live:firejuan22. so the case is that scammer faked both my id and your id and fool us at the same time. if it is the case, the pm i send to you does loose your security, and responisble partly for your loose. so post your transaction id to prove that you did lose btc and i will pay you 0.1 btc as compensate right now, and pay you more with my profit in future until you get back 1/2 of your lost.
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The compensate plan for fire juan
Several days ago, i was involved in one scam issue against me raised by fire juan, and after overview the whole thing in detail, we find out the scammer faked both i and his skype id, email and fooled us at the same time.
because I send a PM to firejuan following the scammer’s requirement loose his security and thus i am partly responsible for his lost. As a compensate, i set this plan with him. Fire Juan lost 3.61 btc in total in the following two transactions 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 and 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463
So i will give him 10 coupons and each valued 125$ (total value 1250$ or 2 btc ) and can be used to buy 1T miner from me, but only one coupon can be used for one miner and can not be used with other discount together. After all these 10 coupons are used, i will give him another 20 coupons and each value 50$(total value 1000$ or 1.6 btc) with the same use limit.
This is all the thing i can do to help him out of the pain of lost btc. i have benefit a lot from the honest moderator in forum, i cannot sell even one miner without their help and the people’s trust on me. So i do not want any people lost their faith on btc because of the scammer, the faith is the base of btc world, Hope my little effort will make the btc world better.
Thanks for all people who concern this issue and thanks for all the people who support me in this issue and thanks for the people who trust me and send btc to me directly even know i am involved in the scam issue.
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The compensate plan for fire juan
Several days ago, i was involved in one scam issue against me raised by fire juan, and after overview the whole thing in detail, we find out the scammer faked both i and his skype id, email and fooled us at the same time.
because I send a PM to firejuan following the scammer’s requirement loose his security and thus i am partly responsible for his lost. As a compensate, i set this plan with him. Fire Juan lost 3.61 btc in total in the following two transactions 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 and 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463
So i will give him 10 coupons and each valued 125$ (total value 1250$ or 2 btc ) and can be used to buy 1T miner from me, but only one coupon can be used for one miner and can not be used with other discount together. After all these 10 coupons are used, i will give him another 20 coupons and each value 50$(total value 1000$ or 1.6 btc) with the same use limit.
This is all the thing i can do to help him out of the pain of lost btc. i have benefit a lot from the honest moderator in forum, i cannot sell even one miner without their help and the people’s trust on me. So i do not want any people lost their faith on btc because of the scammer, the faith is the base of btc world, Hope my little effort will make the btc world better.
Thanks for all people who concern this issue and thanks for all the people who support me in this issue and thanks for the people who trust me and send btc to me directly even know i am involved in the scam issue.
+1, Also I got 3 more of my units yesterday This guy has THE fastest shipping I have seen. I get the tracking friday morning my time, packages are at my facility monday at noon.
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The compensate plan for fire juan
Several days ago, i was involved in one scam issue against me raised by fire juan, and after overview the whole thing in detail, we find out the scammer faked both i and his skype id, email and fooled us at the same time.
because I send a PM to firejuan following the scammer’s requirement loose his security and thus i am partly responsible for his lost. As a compensate, i set this plan with him. Fire Juan lost 3.61 btc in total in the following two transactions 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 and 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463
So i will give him 10 coupons and each valued 125$ (total value 1250$ or 2 btc ) and can be used to buy 1T miner from me, but only one coupon can be used for one miner and can not be used with other discount together. After all these 10 coupons are used, i will give him another 20 coupons and each value 50$(total value 1000$ or 1.6 btc) with the same use limit.
This is all the thing i can do to help him out of the pain of lost btc. i have benefit a lot from the honest moderator in forum, i cannot sell even one miner without their help and the people’s trust on me. So i do not want any people lost their faith on btc because of the scammer, the faith is the base of btc world, Hope my little effort will make the btc world better.
Thanks for all people who concern this issue and thanks for all the people who support me in this issue and thanks for the people who trust me and send btc to me directly even know i am involved in the scam issue.
Thank you, pcfli. I sincerely apologize for my accusations against you. I greatly appreciate your generosity,assistance in this issue. I have removed my negative trust feedback on pcfli. I also want to apologize to bitcointalk.org staff and forum members for some of my posts over the past week. I have already begun the process of removing some of those posts and will continue clean up more. I will post more on how we can get these coupons sold and get some miners moving!
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pcfli (OP)
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March 19, 2014, 05:49:00 AM |
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The compensate plan for fire juan
Several days ago, i was involved in one scam issue against me raised by fire juan, and after overview the whole thing in detail, we find out the scammer faked both i and his skype id, email and fooled us at the same time.
because I send a PM to firejuan following the scammer’s requirement loose his security and thus i am partly responsible for his lost. As a compensate, i set this plan with him. Fire Juan lost 3.61 btc in total in the following two transactions 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463 and 88a5ca66df3391bf1ed16b0d7f423690464da4657651d88f23f830dde398b463
So i will give him 10 coupons and each valued 125$ (total value 1250$ or 2 btc ) and can be used to buy 1T miner from me, but only one coupon can be used for one miner and can not be used with other discount together. After all these 10 coupons are used, i will give him another 20 coupons and each value 50$(total value 1000$ or 1.6 btc) with the same use limit.
This is all the thing i can do to help him out of the pain of lost btc. i have benefit a lot from the honest moderator in forum, i cannot sell even one miner without their help and the people’s trust on me. So i do not want any people lost their faith on btc because of the scammer, the faith is the base of btc world, Hope my little effort will make the btc world better.
Thanks for all people who concern this issue and thanks for all the people who support me in this issue and thanks for the people who trust me and send btc to me directly even know i am involved in the scam issue.
Thank you, pcfli. I sincerely apologize for my accusations against you. I greatly appreciate your generosity,assistance in this issue. I have removed my negative trust feedback on pcfli. I also want to apologize to bitcointalk.org staff and forum members for some of my posts over the past week. I have already begun the process of removing some of those posts and will continue clean up more. I will post more on how we can get these coupons sold and get some miners moving! you are welcome, help people are more meaningful than own several btc.
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sudoku
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March 19, 2014, 04:01:29 PM |
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It's great that you have arrived at a good resolution. Congrats.
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Phreakerx
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March 21, 2014, 01:05:40 PM |
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you are welcome, help people are more meaningful than own several btc.
Awesome, glad to see you guys worked it out. I freggin hate scammers and liars.
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firejuan
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March 21, 2014, 03:48:52 PM |
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I have 9 $125 coupons left. 1 coupon = $100 2 coupons = $185 3 coupons = $280
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March 21, 2014, 05:21:38 PM |
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I have 9 $125 coupons left. 1 coupon = $100 2 coupons = $185 3 coupons = $280
if transferable i would be interested in one. a little concerned by the skype scamming so can anyone confirm miners successfully delivered to north america or canada, and what sort of import costs?
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pcfli (OP)
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March 21, 2014, 08:34:59 PM |
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I have 9 $125 coupons left. 1 coupon = $100 2 coupons = $185 3 coupons = $280
if transferable i would be interested in one. a little concerned by the skype scamming so can anyone confirm miners successfully delivered to north america or canada, and what sort of import costs? you can ask the buyer i list in the head of this topic for help, i have delivered more than 20 unit successfully by now.
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firejuan
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March 22, 2014, 07:20:23 AM |
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I am lowering the price of the $125 coupons to $75. That is a $50 savings.
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barwizi
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March 22, 2014, 03:46:01 PM |
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I am lowering the price of the $125 coupons to $75. That is a $50 savings.
] book one for me.
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thatfase
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March 24, 2014, 10:50:45 PM |
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I am lowering the price of the $125 coupons to $75. That is a $50 savings.
] book one for me. SUCKER will say I told you so
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