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October 14, 2018, 12:20:26 PM |
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Yes, seems that KamaGames goal to generate $25 million will be reached. But this is no smth unrealistic for KamaGames because this is not a startup which we see popping up everywhere in the announcement board. Kamagames already represents a successful business having the 100M existing player base and $57M revenue.
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October 14, 2018, 01:10:05 PM |
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Yes, seems that KamaGames goal to generate $25 million will be reached. But this is no smth unrealistic for KamaGames because this is not a startup which we see popping up everywhere in the announcement board. Kamagames already represents a successful business having the 100M existing player base and $57M revenue.
What do you mean by that no smth unrealistic?,, or it was about having some promotional advertisements along the main cryptocurrency sites. If thats the thing i agree with you to make this ico even more successful. In the other side of it i was thinking that it maybe after the ico and they have a backup plan that is much better and will provide a better opportunity for ico investors.
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daladno12
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October 14, 2018, 01:13:34 PM |
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I have made some calculations: if the total number of tokens created and potentially distributed will be 31.25 million then the average value of KGT = 0.8 USD. My math is simple: $25M / 31.25M KGT = 0.8. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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October 14, 2018, 01:43:06 PM |
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An interesting clause about Escrow. It's said in WP that all funds received from the sale of tokens are placed in escrow and will be transferred to KamaGames at the end of the token sale once all users have received their tokens. But as for me, it would be more important if escrow releases funds only when the software mechanics allowing KGT-to-chips conversion is developed.
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October 14, 2018, 02:14:24 PM |
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An interesting clause about Escrow. It's said in WP that all funds received from the sale of tokens are placed in escrow and will be transferred to KamaGames at the end of the token sale once all users have received their tokens. But as for me, it would be more important if escrow releases funds only when the software mechanics allowing KGT-to-chips conversion is developed.
The company with 8-years technical experience and 250 people in staff could easily make such software mechanics. I am sure the Kamagames has no any reasons not to do that after successful tokens sale. So escrow is not needed for that part of the process.
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October 14, 2018, 02:19:39 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
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October 14, 2018, 02:26:23 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex
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October 14, 2018, 02:36:12 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this.
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October 14, 2018, 02:38:38 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
I guess that the main reason is to sell KGT to players now to persuade these players to continue playing on Pokerist for the next 3 years. If I (a player) have bought KGT then I will not switch to the casino games provided by other developers during next years because the exch rate KGT-to-chips is increasing.
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October 14, 2018, 02:49:59 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this. This is said about the goal of KGT token sale in WP: "The current annual profit of the company is already very robust and is unlikely to be adversely affected by the outcome of the planned KamaGames Token sale. Due to the KamaGames Token sale being managed by a separate team, it is not expected to influence the overall company performance, development and market success. However, we want to offer you an opportunity to buy our in game virtual currency at a lucrative rate"
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Sergey69ay
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October 14, 2018, 03:01:13 PM |
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Yes, seems that KamaGames goal to generate $25 million will be reached. But this is no smth unrealistic for KamaGames because this is not a startup which we see popping up everywhere in the announcement board. Kamagames already represents a successful business having the 100M existing player base and $57M revenue.
What do you mean by that no smth unrealistic?,, or it was about having some promotional advertisements along the main cryptocurrency sites. If thats the thing i agree with you to make this ico even more successful. In the other side of it i was thinking that it maybe after the ico and they have a backup plan that is much better and will provide a better opportunity for ico investors. By saying "no smth unrealistic" I meant that reaching of hard is an easy task for Kamagames. It's obvious if we look to the main parameters such as the number of users, revenue, availability of perfectly-developed products, etc.
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October 14, 2018, 03:18:22 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this. Yes, if other IT 'giants' follow Kamagames example and start running their token sales on ethereum blockchain then this fact supports eth price. Especially now when trade volumes are decreased dramatically compared to what we saw in the December 2017.
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October 14, 2018, 03:24:50 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this. Yes, if other IT 'giants' follow Kamagames example and start running their token sales on ethereum blockchain then this fact supports eth price. Especially now when trade volumes are decreased dramatically compared to what we saw in the December 2017. In my point of view, many big companies similar to Kamagames, that has stable revenues, a lot of staff, offices and other attributes of the well-doing company, are just waiting for better conditions on cryptomarket. When conditions will be improved when they could benefit from the crypto hype.
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October 14, 2018, 05:19:37 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this. This is said about the goal of KGT token sale in WP: "The current annual profit of the company is already very robust and is unlikely to be adversely affected by the outcome of the planned KamaGames Token sale. Due to the KamaGames Token sale being managed by a separate team, it is not expected to influence the overall company performance, development and market success. However, we want to offer you an opportunity to buy our in game virtual currency at a lucrative rate" The team of KamaGames has stated that it intends to achieve with its Token KGT improve the level of product quality within the online social casino games market. Starting from its Top Pokerist product achieving better interaction with players. After reading White Paper and paying attention to Roadmap it makes sense to me what it propose with the release of its KGT token. If anyone has asked, How successful businesses create their products for free for everyone? KamaGames is a model and a good case study.
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October 14, 2018, 06:47:15 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this. This is said about the goal of KGT token sale in WP: "The current annual profit of the company is already very robust and is unlikely to be adversely affected by the outcome of the planned KamaGames Token sale. Due to the KamaGames Token sale being managed by a separate team, it is not expected to influence the overall company performance, development and market success. However, we want to offer you an opportunity to buy our in game virtual currency at a lucrative rate" The team of KamaGames has stated that it intends to achieve with its Token KGT improve the level of product quality within the online social casino games market. Starting from its Top Pokerist product achieving better interaction with players. After reading White Paper and paying attention to Roadmap it makes sense to me what it propose with the release of its KGT token. If anyone has asked, How successful businesses create their products for free for everyone? KamaGames is a model and a good case study. You're right but why 'for free'? Kamagames uses the typical "freepay" model of monetization its products. Many mobile games developers use it. For example Clash Of Clans game. The principle is simple: you can download the game for free + few chips will be given for free for the start BUT then you shall pay for every additional chip.
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October 14, 2018, 06:52:09 PM |
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Probably you wanted to call it "freemium", not "freepay" business model. I agree with the rest. The aim of Kamagames is to tight its connection with existing players by selling them (not giving for free - it's important) KGT tokens. If KGT tokens were given for free (like airdrops or smth else) then players will not appreciate that and could easily shift to another game made by another developer.
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October 14, 2018, 07:07:27 PM |
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According to the statement below, the value of Kama tokens rises even more. Possible shortage! "The amount of KGT remaining for allocation totals at just under 18M. Once they are sold out, we can guarantee that no more tokens will be made available, so don’t miss your chance to participate."
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October 14, 2018, 07:09:33 PM |
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You can easily simulate the situation in which KamaGames captures new markets (for example, Asia), the number of players is growing, everyone needs tokens. In this case, the value of tokens will increase greatly.
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Sergey69ay
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October 14, 2018, 07:18:43 PM |
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You can easily simulate the situation in which KamaGames captures new markets (for example, Asia), the number of players is growing, everyone needs tokens. In this case, the value of tokens will increase greatly.
I think you right regarding new markets (like China + India). But the most important is the rate of crypto adoption among kamagames's players. AS we all hope crypto market will be growing so the number of people who could understand all benefits of KGT too.
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October 14, 2018, 07:33:13 PM |
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I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?
1. This is not ICO 2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale) 3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD? 4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this. This is said about the goal of KGT token sale in WP: "The current annual profit of the company is already very robust and is unlikely to be adversely affected by the outcome of the planned KamaGames Token sale. Due to the KamaGames Token sale being managed by a separate team, it is not expected to influence the overall company performance, development and market success. However, we want to offer you an opportunity to buy our in game virtual currency at a lucrative rate" The team of KamaGames has stated that it intends to achieve with its Token KGT improve the level of product quality within the online social casino games market. Starting from its Top Pokerist product achieving better interaction with players. After reading White Paper and paying attention to Roadmap it makes sense to me what it propose with the release of its KGT token. If anyone has asked, How successful businesses create their products for free for everyone? KamaGames is a model and a good case study. You're right but why 'for free'? Kamagames uses the typical "freepay" model of monetization its products. Many mobile games developers use it. For example Clash Of Clans game. The principle is simple: you can download the game for free + few chips will be given for free for the start BUT then you shall pay for every additional chip. I was referring to KamaGames White Paper page 40. "KamaGames' ultimate goal is to raise the bar of product quality within the online social casino games market, attracting new players to enjoy market-leading, free-to-play games".I have not had the opportunity to check the product but I am anxious to do so. Thanks for the feedback!
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