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August 18, 2018, 12:53:20 PM
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No indeed people are very stupid when you send your ID data so that you can withdraw money from your trading account. Leave that $ 200,000 on the account. They may have it for free. It only costs 500 days and a total of 8,000 hours. No indeed I agree with you.
I'd rather throw that $ 200,000 away than I'd be so stupid to send identity data to get your $ 200,000 back.

I have used several exchanges over the years. I have provided a real life name and address to one exchange only, and I have never performed a full KYC or sent my documents to anyone. I have never had any coins locked behind a KYC wall or similar.

If you leave $200,000 on an exchange, and have your account locked behind mandatory KYC, then that is entirely your own fault. "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin."


To solve a large part of this problem, all KYC / AML inspections must be done by a single central company for all countries.

No offence, but this is a truly awful idea. You want to create a single, centralised database which holds the identity and documents of everyone involved in crypto? That is a massive security risk, as well as a prime target for hackers.
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August 18, 2018, 02:14:06 PM
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IF a scam projects ask for KYC documents then your details will get probably exposed in the darknet but even in most of the counties already our details are illegally obtained and sell for money.So know about the legitimacy of the project before giving your valuable details.

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August 19, 2018, 02:55:24 PM
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To solve a large part of this problem, all KYC / AML inspections must be done by a single central company for all countries.

No offence, but this is a truly awful idea. You want to create a single, centralised database which holds the identity and documents of everyone involved in crypto? That is a massive security risk, as well as a prime target for hackers.

oapieNL: this is the precise reason that so much data has been compromised, so much been sold, so much being unethically used. And most of this goes on unbeknownst to either the people those data belongs to or even to the centralised companies supposedly keeping custody. They all become exposed when whistleblowers report them (refer Facebook) or when people discover their data being sold online (refer multiple stories of how healthcare data particularly are all sold online from major countries, because their health departments just left citizens data lying around for easy access).

Hackers would love this to happen too, because it makes their job of locating the data easier. You're basically painting a large target on the company, and inviting hackers to try.

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August 19, 2018, 03:18:42 PM
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Terrifying as some people make their money. Because of that, i will certainly never send my personal data over the internet. The fear is great in me that this data is stolen. Im definitely one of the few people who have never bought anything online.
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August 19, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
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I think that ICO scammers will not just take off with your invested money.

Probably also they selling your ID. proof of Identity + Selfie + proof of Residenz
Uploaded KYC ID documents + selfies and address data are sold with large quantities on the darkweb, which are probably collected via scam projects.

What do you think?.

check these screenshots for example




This adres http://wallstyizjhkrvmj.onion where they sell that shit




They're really crazy. Willing to do everything for easy money.
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August 19, 2018, 03:40:18 PM
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This is why KYC is not a must if the ICO is not a success yet.
they also distribute the token after ICO so why do we need to do KYC at first?
Well doing KYC for investment is not a hundred percent sure for the team also.
as people can give fake information and documents.


Agreed with you.
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August 19, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
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No indeed people are very stupid when you send your ID data so that you can withdraw money from your trading account. Leave that $ 200,000 on the account. They may have it for free. It only costs 500 days and a total of 8,000 hours. No indeed I agree with you.
I'd rather throw that $ 200,000 away than I'd be so stupid to send identity data to get your $ 200,000 back.

I have used several exchanges over the years. I have provided a real life name and address to one exchange only, and I have never performed a full KYC or sent my documents to anyone. I have never had any coins locked behind a KYC wall or similar.

If you leave $200,000 on an exchange, and have your account locked behind mandatory KYC, then that is entirely your own fault. "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin."
For some people they do able to say such thing but when they do already on the middle of the situation they would do anything just to get those $200k on your trading account. Who the hell would let those money sit and make it as a donation to exchangers?
To solve a large part of this problem, all KYC / AML inspections must be done by a single central company for all countries.

No offence, but this is a truly awful idea. You want to create a single, centralised database which holds the identity and documents of everyone involved in crypto? That is a massive security risk, as well as a prime target for hackers.
This would really require strong security if you do tend to have a central database on all informations being collected.

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August 19, 2018, 04:58:52 PM
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Oh my God, anything can happen. When we have to work hard to earn a living, they take their identity to make a living, so brazen and shameful to those who are doing so. After this I must carefully consider when giving my KYC to them.
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August 19, 2018, 05:01:48 PM
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Who is crazy for sending his personal information to a new site/project that you just heard about some days ago and from which you don't know anyone working there. Better to sell your own ID yourself on the www at least you get some money. Privacy is costly nowadays
Only someone who is unwise or lacking a good sense will send his/her personal information to new site/project but I want you to know that the new site/project are not the only one who is guilty of this situations because the well used or famous site/project are also guilty of selling their user information and this is the reason why I don't support the KYC thing when it first implemented last year.

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August 19, 2018, 05:53:06 PM
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This is very alarming to all people who are investing in such ICO and also to those bounty hunters that providing their identities to website that they are working for. Many of the bounty hunters can relate in this. So always choose wisely in bounty and in ICO because they can use your identity in other crime.
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This is very alarming to all people who are investing in such ICO and also to those bounty hunters that providing their identities to website that they are working for. Many of the bounty hunters can relate in this. So always choose wisely in bounty and in ICO because they can use your identity in other crime.


This has become common issues now. Many documents are stolen and used for illegal act. This is really bad and even becomes worst. This is the reason many here do not wish to hand over the documents when an ICO asks to do KYC for the respective bounty or any other social media campaigns. The ICO needs to safeguard the documents.



























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August 19, 2018, 08:44:24 PM
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Well, I'm not shock or surprise that something like this happened because the US SEC and every government involve created the KYC scheme for their selfish reason and to pokenose into crypto currency which we both know that the crypto currency hacker and scammer will seize it as opportunity.

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August 19, 2018, 11:13:01 PM
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Oh my God, anything can happen. When we have to work hard to earn a living, they take their identity to make a living, so brazen and shameful to those who are doing so. After this I must carefully consider when giving my KYC to them.
This is a shameful job and must be immediately eliminated in this market. I feel that these are bad sectors that make the cryptocurrency market not get the attention of many investors.

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August 19, 2018, 11:31:41 PM
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This is one of the possible consequences for giving away our personal document to random projects for the hope we can earn, hence we tend to abide in the kyc system that they require. But if you're careful and not easily convince by those dev "claiming the value of their tokens will soar high" then you wont end up compromising your identity.

IF a scam projects ask for KYC documents then your details will get probably exposed in the darknet but even in most of the counties already our details are illegally obtained and sell for money.So know about the legitimacy of the project before giving your valuable details.
The problem is its quite hard to identify if the project is scam, nowadays scammers are also upgrading as being professional to victimized innocent investors who usually new in crypto world and they are the ones who usually fall into this trap.

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August 25, 2018, 11:04:39 PM
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I think that ICO scammers will not just take off with your invested money.

Probably also they selling your ID. proof of Identity + Selfie + proof of Residenz
Uploaded KYC ID documents + selfies and address data are sold with large quantities on the darkweb, which are probably collected via scam projects.

What do you think?.

check these screenshots for example

This adres http://wallstyizjhkrvmj.onion where they sell that shit



Unfortunately this is something that I thought it will happen as soon as the icos started to require KYC, there are many legitimate icos out there and they are forced to comply with the law and follow those rules but as we know scammers are a bunch of opportunistic people and they have found another way to make money, as if it was not enough they they stole your money now they can steal your identity as well.
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August 25, 2018, 11:22:41 PM
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that is one of possible reasons why more and more ICOs are asking for KYC verification
they hide behind the KYC regulations and act like legitimate businesses
but it's just another trick to steal people personal information
and that's why many crypto enthusiasts will try as much as possible to avoid KYC procedure
the KYC stuff is just against the idea of pseudonymous in peer-to-peer crypto currency

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August 26, 2018, 01:35:24 AM
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that is one of possible reasons why more and more ICOs are asking for KYC verification
they hide behind the KYC regulations and act like legitimate businesses
but it's just another trick to steal people personal information
and that's why many crypto enthusiasts will try as much as possible to avoid KYC procedure
the KYC stuff is just against the idea of pseudonymous in peer-to-peer crypto currency

This is the reason why I don't join bounties that ask for KYC because they might be just another company who would be doing this. Even if they wouldn't be able to collect huge amount of money in their scammy ICO, they can still get some money by selling the information of those investors who wouldn't only lost their money but their identity were sold as well. As for the bounty hunters who most probably would be thousands of them if the ICO is famous and many bounty participants, then they can still get large amount from selling those documents.

Unfortunately this is something that I thought it will happen as soon as the icos started to require KYC, there are many legitimate icos out there and they are forced to comply with the law and follow those rules but as we know scammers are a bunch of opportunistic people and they have found another way to make money, as if it was not enough they they stole your money now they can steal your identity as well.

Yes, those scam ICOs would tell the people to pass KYC because they are just following regulation. Since scam ICOs are getting ahead nowadays, I would just choose to buy the coin when listed in an exchange. There is a possibility anyway that the price would be lower than ICO and if you think about it, it would still be the same as getting the bonuses during ICO.

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August 26, 2018, 04:42:05 AM
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yes you are right it is the worst possibility they will do and I hope you can avoid the ico program that tells you like that, because the cryptocurrency should be confidential privacy of the user there should be nothing to know if you submit a KYC like that will make yourself you are threatened because your identity can be used for criminal acts like that.



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August 26, 2018, 01:26:23 PM
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I think that ICO scammers will not just take off with your invested money.

Probably also they selling your ID. proof of Identity + Selfie + proof of Residenz
Uploaded KYC ID documents + selfies and address data are sold with large quantities on the darkweb, which are probably collected via scam projects.

What do you think?.

check these screenshots for example
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That's one reason why i don't do everything that KYC required from me. KYC is a no go for me, especially in the Crypto area. That's exactly what i don't want anyone to be able to buy my personal data on the internet later. besides, one advantage of crypto was that it's semi-anonymous and through KYC it's getting more and more removed. I just don't want and will not support that and hope that your contribution here will shake people up a little and they see how bad KYC is.  Wink
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August 26, 2018, 01:55:48 PM
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With this shit, im happy that i  used everytime a copy from my id card, but i chance the cart with photoshop. I change my name and birthday and my personal number to a non-existent person. my passport photo and selfie are only original. this way I prevent my id going to being stolen. I did used it at exchanges such as bittrex and poloniex and also several icos. I came everywhere through the kyc / aml without any problems. Wink
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