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August 19, 2018, 04:35:51 PM
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Recently I have seen many thread for recover ban/locked & hacked account on meta board.
Why not make a pin post by moderator for claim ban/locked and hacked account.

Subject might be, "Claim your ban/locked and hacked account here"

It's not better make a pin post instead of multiple thread for recover account ?
As far as I know moderators can solve ban and locked account except hacked account.

Some people's  waiting from years for get backed their account even he have enough proof. Admin shouldn't give priority to help them for  get back their account ?
Due to merit system it's not easy to build a ranked account now.

I believe if admin give power to moderators for recover  hacked account, it will be easy to get back hacked account for victim . And it will reduce pressure of admin.

As a most popular Cryptocurrency discussion forum,  also need upgrade security system for member's, like 2FA to prevent hacker.



There is one thread with guidelines but it's locked. No one can reply.

There is one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0

The problem is that they're just not getting restored.

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There is one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0

The problem is that they're just not getting restored.

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August 19, 2018, 05:34:28 PM
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I don't get why can't the forum hire like one or two people to recover those locked accounts with signed messages.

One or two people would be able to recover dozens of accounts per day and this problem could be easily solved very quickly.

There are many trusted members here on the forum that would do that for a small fee in btc.


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August 19, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
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Recently I have seen many thread for recover ban/locked & hacked account on meta board.
Why not make a pin post by moderator for claim ban/locked and hacked account.

Subject might be, "Claim your ban/locked and hacked account here"

It's not better make a pin post instead of multiple thread for recover account ?
As far as I know moderators can solve ban and locked account except hacked account.

Some people's  waiting from years for get backed their account even he have enough proof. Admin shouldn't give priority to help them for  get back their account ?
Due to merit system it's not easy to build a ranked account now.

I believe if admin give power to moderators for recover  hacked account, it will be easy to get back hacked account for victim . And it will reduce pressure of admin.

As a most popular Cryptocurrency discussion forum,  also need upgrade security system for member's, like 2FA to prevent hacker.



There is one thread with guidelines but it's locked. No one can reply.

There is one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0

The problem is that they're just not getting restored.

I also agree with your statement.
Because there are a number of my friends as you say, there are among my friends their accounts hacked by irresponsible people, even they use other people's accounts by sending submissions.
Also need to add a reinforcement system like 2fa.
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August 19, 2018, 05:54:12 PM
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^^ no need to quote the entire op.

There is no need for a thread for account recovery. They just do it to bring visibility to the issue. The big thing is following the instructions in the post hilarious quoted.

The ones you are seeing are ban appeals because they have to post that here.

Edit: Found a use for this in addition to an account linking topic I started.

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August 19, 2018, 06:21:38 PM
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The ones you are seeing are ban appeals because they have to post that here.
I have also created similar thread few months back, asking about sub board in Meta for ban appeals. I think those ban appeal requests are cloging the Meta and Meta is not only for ban appeals, but for other discussions too regarding  bitcointalk forum. I also agreed with what "bitmover" suggested. In that thread what I got two suggestions from "Welsh"(Now he is in staff so maybe it's time to consider his suggestion) and "LTU_btc"  which I believed worth to mention in this thread too.

Link to thread>>>Subforum for account ban request

When an account has been ban then there is appropriate reason. As everywhere has an option to appeal bitcointalk has same. But I saw several post like above mentioned and saw that they do not get response. I think they receive a lots of message thats why cant response on time. In this case if there is a sub forum and people can discuss either ban is appropriate then people can report to moderator so that their work will less and they may concentrate on it.
This is why I suggested that the message displayed when you are banned be changed to contact theymos/cyrus to appeal the ban. This way it doesn't clog up the Meta section. It's hardly a public matter anyway so it makes sense to have it privately discussed via personal messages.

Anyway, 99.9% of banned users have no chance to be unbanned,
Absolutely right. That's what I'm highlighting. Why we are allowing to post those annoying posts asking the same question again and again by those 99.9% everyday whose already knows the answer that they get.
Almost all of these users don't have chance to be unbanned, but despite that, they have right to appeal. Many of banned users don't even know reason why they got ban and by making these threads they get explanation from mods. But maybe it would better to show reason of ban when users are trying to login in to banned account. Then we would see less ban appeal threads I think.

So I'm hoping these two suggestions will be seen by admin Smiley

  • Message to be displayed when you are banned be changed to contact theymos/cyrus to appeal the ban
  • showing the reason of ban when users are trying to login in to banned account

Regarding 2FA thing , I hope it will be surely added to the new forum update. Because we all agreed that to be installed ASAP.
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August 19, 2018, 08:39:22 PM
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I don't get why can't the forum hire like one or two people to recover those locked accounts with signed messages.
This trust means that they can access to admin's account. Thus they have full powers just as theymos does.
Even if we assume that such a trust exists, the large number of admins will cause some bugs + any hacks of these accounts would threaten the forum as a whole.
Also, the process of restoring accounts is not merely a sign/verify the message.

The best solution is that theymos trusts the investigations of some members and thus recovers those accounts based on their recommendations.

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August 19, 2018, 08:41:43 PM
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The real question is: Why so many accounts need to restored from hack? (after the hack in the past)

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August 19, 2018, 08:52:55 PM
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As theymos said some time ago the recovery will be automated, as he is working on the new system which should have been implemented this month, but as we know theymos, he is probably traveling somewhere with speed of light and the time in minutes there are measured with years here soo.. idk what is his idea for a "month"...

The real question is: Why so many accounts need to restored from hack? (after the hack in the past)

Big part of the accounts are sold and then the seller is trying to get it back as he has the signed address in the list and claiming that the account was hacked. That's why there should be an "investigation" for each case.

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Big part of the accounts are sold and then the seller is trying to get it back as he has the signed address in the list and claiming that the account was hacked. That's why there should be an "investigation" for each case.

You right man, they will always find a way to scam people.

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August 20, 2018, 03:54:47 PM
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We have been through this, but I say talking about it for the millionth time is good, it is good for as long as there is not a solution, otherwise the problem would be forgotten.

And the problem grows at an exponential pace. There is people waiting for 1+ year, after signing addresses. Totally nuts isn't it.


As theymos said some time ago the recovery will be automated, as he is working on the new system which should have been implemented this month, but as we know theymos, he is probably traveling somewhere with speed of light and the time in minutes there are measured with years here soo.. idk what is his idea for a "month"...

The real question is: Why so many accounts need to restored from hack? (after the hack in the past)

Big part of the accounts are sold and then the seller is trying to get it back as he has the signed address in the list and claiming that the account was hacked. That's why there should be an "investigation" for each case.

This sounds good. Can you point me to the exact quote of theymos saying that? I can't find it. I would like to know how exactly the system is going to work so it cannot be exploited by attackers to steal accounts.

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As theymos said some time ago the recovery will be automated, as he is working on the new system which should have been implemented this month, but as we know theymos, he is probably traveling somewhere with speed of light and the time in minutes there are measured with years here soo.. idk what is his idea for a "month"...

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By seeing this pattern for quite a time, I believe the automated recovery system for the lost/hacked account will be with us when the new forum software is out, and we dont know too when is the time for that. Well, I guess he is just too busy, he has real life too bro.

Same as cellard, we would like to see the official statement from Theymos. Thanks iasenko.


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August 20, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
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I really don't think that this is a problem at all as long as it is about an account recovery following the guidelines for recovering via a signed message as sometimes a follow up thread is something that is needed to be done in order to get the attention of the admins but what annoys me is account recovery threads for bans on the reason of copy and pasting these are the one who we really need to focus our attention on as they will really never recover their accounts as it is permaban.

Although they all do have the exception of creating a thread in the meta section these people who are banned from plagiarism are really annoying on how they beg to unlock their account and how they will never do it again, accounts banned due to plagiarism can never be recovered and there is no exception. What we can only do is to report these threads to be locked or deleted so that it won't be on the first page again.

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