[GOX] Crime Scene Investigation, Case #MG744

[Loozik]

and his bodyguard mr Pawczyński

Do you know his first name?

[Definit]

new update on mtgox.com


what it means:

http://www.dcmagnates.com/mtgox-gets-more-time-as-court-approves-civil-rehabilitation-request/

[Armis]

new update on mtgox.com


what it means:

http://www.dcmagnates.com/mtgox-gets-more-time-as-court-approves-civil-rehabilitation-request/


When entering its bankruptcy case, MtGox filed for a Procedure of Civil Rehabilitation with the Tokyo District Court.  Under terms of the filing, MtGox assets would more or less be frozen, with the company being given time to assess its business before a liquidation would take place.  In MtGox’s case, the company stated that they discovered customer cash missing from accounts at their banking partners as well as the loss of bitcoins which they sought additional time to investigate.

Updating customers today, MtGox posted results of their request, with the court approving the procedure of civil rehabilitation and stating:

No forced execution or preliminary attachment or disposition shall be made by a rehabilitation creditor on the basis of a rehabilitation debt with regard to the properties of the rehabilitation debtor during the period until a decision shall be made with regard to the application for commencement of civil rehabilitation.

Per terms of the court answer, MtGox will now be given additional time to investigate the location of its customer cash and bitcoins, before a forced liquidation would take place.  As per their initial filing with the court, MtGox may also use the current period to create and bring forward to its creditors a business proposal of how they could remain an ongoing entity, while providing benefits to creditors. Such a plan would  possibly entail the providing of equity in the firm to its debtors or creating a proposal of repayment based on future profits.

 

good post

anyone considering go in business with that guy is a moron

nevertheless, the money must be found.

[Definit]

my plans are to go into business with him...


and take everything he has right from under him.

[McKinley]

There was some irc chat long ago, where Karpeles sent around 424k BTC to a particular address as in to prove that the exchange holds enough funds.


The address was this here

424k proof transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1b9e330d32fef1ee42f8e86420d2be978bbe0dc5862f17da9027cf9e11f8c4 424k 06/23/2011

Someone on another thread (Peter R's theory) claims also a 2011 transaction of 432K was done by MTGOX, Karpeles:
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/84f96975ea88d317676771a482c71f39ff53beda790c89c07ae82e427b4d090f

MagicalTux: Kireji: it's the mtgox funds, which I moved to a secure area until things are cleared

I clicked through one path which ended up on the same address as above already posted: 1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9 with 50K where very small BTC amounts are still put onto, but never taken away. If that were an MTGOX address, BTC would still be there. If you said - you forgot the keys - get convicted and after a certain amount of years miraculously find the key again - you're deadly rich and already served your penalty.

Source
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497289.msg5545261#msg5545261
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

[Armis]

There was some irc chat long ago, where Karpeles sent around 424k BTC to a particular address as in to prove that the exchange holds enough funds.


The address was this here

424k proof transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1b9e330d32fef1ee42f8e86420d2be978bbe0dc5862f17da9027cf9e11f8c4 424k 06/23/2011

Someone on another thread (Peter R's theory) claims also a 2011 transaction of 432K was done by MTGOX, Karpeles:
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/84f96975ea88d317676771a482c71f39ff53beda790c89c07ae82e427b4d090f

MagicalTux: Kireji: it's the mtgox funds, which I moved to a secure area until things are cleared

I clicked through one path which ended up on the same address as above already posted: 1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9 with 50K where very small BTC amounts are still put onto, but never taken away. If that were an MTGOX address, BTC would still be there. If you said - you forgot the keys - get convicted and after a certain amount of years miraculously find the key again - you're deadly rich and already served your penalty.

Source
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497289.msg5545261#msg5545261
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

I think when he got hacked he was pissed that there was 'nothing he could do' so he devised a plan to hack himself thinking everyone would adopt the same 'nothing we could do' attitude, however little did he know that if 'nothing could be done' then the whole btc system is no good.  The coins must be found for the people who own them, but most of all for the people who want to see a btc future.

[Zeta0S]

and his bodyguard mr Pawczyński

Do you know his first name?

uuh no, why you ask?

[sobriket]

So, where is this investigation at now?

Do we know the MtGox 'coldwallet' addresses and their BTC balances? i.e. definite blockchain evidence rather than theory.

And we know that Mark Karpelès and his bodyguard mr Pawczyński left Tokyo and are there currend location is City Sendai Japan, and we know that they stay in the Koyo Grand Hotel, close to the main highway.


2-3-1 Honcho
Aoba Ward, Sendai, Miyagi 980-0014
Japan

Source?

[Loozik]

and his bodyguard mr Pawczyński

Do you know his first name?

uuh no, why you ask?

Out of curiosity.

[Zeta0S]

Mark Karpelès and his Polish bodyguard Mr.Pawczyński left Tokyo and staying in the Koyo Grand Hotel, closely to the Train station and main highway.  
MT Gox CEO has a black rental BMW 6 series.


2-3-1 Honcho
Aoba Ward, Sendai, Miyagi 980-0014
Japan

[Loozik]

Mark Karpelès and his Polish bodyguard Mr.Pawczyński left Tokyo and staying in the Koyo Grand Hotel, closely to the Train station and main highway.  

This doesn't tell me much. If you know Mr. Pawczynski's first name (and ideally his date of birth), this would be helpful.

[Zeta0S]

Mark Karpelès and his Polish bodyguard Mr.Pawczyński left Tokyo and staying in the Koyo Grand Hotel, closely to the Train station and main highway.  

This doesn't tell me much. If you know Mr. Pawczynski's first name (and ideally his date of birth), this would be helpful.

I only copy past from the website i found.  Why is the bodyguard his name and birth date any importance?   I think a room number will be more interesting, or the BMW license plate?

[Loozik]

 I think a room number will be more interesting, or the BMW license plate?

You can't interrogate a room number or car plates.

[alfabitcoin]

Is his cat with him?

[darkmule]

I clicked through one path which ended up on the same address as above already posted: 1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9 with 50K where very small BTC amounts are still put onto, but never taken away. If that were an MTGOX address, BTC would still be there. If you said - you forgot the keys - get convicted and after a certain amount of years miraculously find the key again - you're deadly rich and already served your penalty.

Except since this "miracle" is nothing more than a fraud, you've committed a whole other crime, and fraud tolls the statute of limitations.  You are still not entitled to keep the money, and can be imprisoned indefinitely under civil contempt until you disgorge the funds.

[Armis]

I clicked through one path which ended up on the same address as above already posted: 1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9 with 50K where very small BTC amounts are still put onto, but never taken away. If that were an MTGOX address, BTC would still be there. If you said - you forgot the keys - get convicted and after a certain amount of years miraculously find the key again - you're deadly rich and already served your penalty.

Except since this "miracle" is nothing more than a fraud, you've committed a whole other crime, and fraud tolls the statute of limitations.  You are still not entitled to keep the money, and can be imprisoned indefinitely under civil contempt until you disgorge the funds.

well, I'm glad for that, but in the mean time we should have found the money

[aTg]

Attention, known accounts of gox move 180k BTC immobile since 2011;

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ee89f7cf824a85ad5f11d52604ffdebe9f01302bcea8ddec0af450f9185ddf1

[eztezt]

Attention, known accounts of gox move 180k BTC immobile since 2011;

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ee89f7cf824a85ad5f11d52604ffdebe9f01302bcea8ddec0af450f9185ddf1

Yes
https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1KecDYadohxk8MCDqKF8SBEMhCUNveAsCj
this is good
if this adsress is a MTGox Address

[Zeta0S]

https://blockchain.info/nl/address/12HddUDLhRP2F8JjpKYeKaDxxt5wUvx5nq 

[aTg]

But they have again divided into four accounts;

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1NobuZ86rkMkk66nP3DfEUH7WYh4cHU4PS

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Ewk1sqTMYw41aYgtQiWvuoZbGGa99wHyj

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1GRJycBJMQ41XkCygGKURgkqLd2qkwCQDB

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1QLARqgCkymXrdJheVRoppvqykugKV2b84

if this adsress is a MTGox Address

¿Have confirmation that the account belongs to gox?