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[cosmofly]

I do believe if Russia Uses force the U.S. will step in.

Are you serious bro? I doubt it highly. The US wont step in, how can they? they cant even afford the jet fuel to fly there.
 

The way our Economy is right now i think you're right lol

Not to mention the fact that if the US does step in they will start world war 3.

I will invite u to dinner if that happens.

[Bobsurplus]

I do believe if Russia Uses force the U.S. will step in.

Are you serious bro? I doubt it highly. The US wont step in, how can they? they cant even afford the jet fuel to fly there.
 

The way our Economy is right now i think you're right lol

Not to mention the fact that if the US does step in they will start world war 3.

I will invite u to dinner if that happens.

If WW3 is going on, this dinner you speak of better be in an underground bunker at least 50ft below the ground. And have some weed hand too! 

[niothor]

I do believe if Russia Uses force the U.S. will step in.

Are you serious bro? I doubt it highly. The US wont step in, how can they? they cant even afford the jet fuel to fly there.
 

And you think Russia can afford a war?
An open war between Russia and the western countries is out of the question.

The cost are so great it's a nightmare just to think about it.

[Kiki112]

I do believe if Russia Uses force the U.S. will step in.

Are you serious bro? I doubt it highly. The US wont step in, how can they? they cant even afford the jet fuel to fly there.
 

And you think Russia can afford a war?
An open war between Russia and the western countries is out of the question.

The cost are so great it's a nightmare just to think about it.

yes they can
not open invasion but supporting the Russians inside Ukraine with weapons and logistics, they can even send their unmarked units&soldiers
oh,wait,they're already doing that
guess I was right the whole time

[Anon136]

This whole thing is a big puppet show.  Governments love war, especially when population control is the goal.

they used to like it a lot more. now they are scared of getting nuked

[niothor]

I do believe if Russia Uses force the U.S. will step in.

Are you serious bro? I doubt it highly. The US wont step in, how can they? they cant even afford the jet fuel to fly there.
 

And you think Russia can afford a war?
An open war between Russia and the western countries is out of the question.

The cost are so great it's a nightmare just to think about it.

yes they can
not open invasion but supporting the Russians inside Ukraine with weapons and logistics, they can even send their unmarked units&soldiers
oh,wait,they're already doing that
guess I was right the whole time

I was talking about open war;) Not this circus.

[Paya]

Russia doesn't need to start the war - ethnic Russian majority in Crimea and south-east regions doesn't want to live under the rule of Kiev any more. You could keep them in Ukraine only by force. If western powers are less hypocritical and remember their own game rules they've set for, as example, ex-Yugoslavia, there wouldn't be any problems.

[Bobsurplus]

I do believe if Russia Uses force the U.S. will step in.

Are you serious bro? I doubt it highly. The US wont step in, how can they? they cant even afford the jet fuel to fly there.
 

And you think Russia can afford a war?
An open war between Russia and the western countries is out of the question.

The cost are so great it's a nightmare just to think about it.

I understand, but I'm saying they can afford war with Ukraine.

[niothor]

Russia doesn't need to start the war - ethnic Russian majority in Crimea and south-east regions doesn't want to live under the rule of Kiev any more. You could keep them in Ukraine only by force. If western powers are less hypocritical and remember their own game rules they've set for, as example, ex-Yugoslavia, there wouldn't be any problems.

But do they want to live in Russia?
With so many russians fleeing the country for western europe , I doubt that's what they wish.

[MysteryMiner]

From here Ukraine is only short overnight trip away. If I had money for the road or someone traveling to Ukraine from Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania with similar intent I will go with You and help to repel russian invasion. I speak latvian, russian, english and understand and can read ukrainian. I also know how to use weapons (AK-74, FN-FAL, MG3, MP-40, F1 hand grenades and small arms). I'm willing to kill enemy and risk my own life while doing that in name of freedom. This is my best chance to get into real action and even more important this thing matters because next will be Latvia that is invaded by mr. Putin. Write to me in forum PM and I will reply in 24 hours or less.

[MysteryMiner]

I will post here reply I made to one PM.

News here are unreliable. According to first hand sources in Kharkov nobody knows who is in charge. Everyone is waiting. In Sunday mobilization of Ukrainian army was announced but nobody is giving orders for attack. From official news sources comes information that most garrisons in Crimea and eastern parts of Ukraine are surrounded by russian troops without signs of recognition. But they all are waiting and nobody is shooting as of yet.

I doubt that Ukraine alone have capability to maintain all it's territory if full scale war breaks out. Sure it have rather strong army but russians have everything in more numbers. Full scale war can turn out similar to Finnish-Russian winter war when Finland lost it's most precious lands but did not lost whole country. With the bonus of Ukrainian resistance fighters attacking military and civilian targets all over Russia and Ukraine for next 10 years.

I'm mad how all world leaders are acting like they are made from KY-jelly. Not a single leader promised to give military help to Ukraine in upcoming war unless Putin withdraws from Crimea. Everyone is talking like they are held at gunpoint by Putin and afraid for their life. And I'm mad how Ukraine voluntarily gave away the nukes they had. This alone would prevent the hostile actions by Russia and equalize positions if war goes full-scale.

What will happen if Ukraine removes Russian invasion? Well I put this that way. Russians are imminent and real threat to every nation who live near them. European Union with all the capitalism and gayfags and niggers are threat that can be avoided if Ukrainian leadership does not align with European union. There already was struggle between pro-european and ukrainian nationalists.

[pororo]

From here Ukraine is only short overnight trip away. If I had money for the road or someone traveling to Ukraine from Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania with similar intent I will go with You and help to repel russian invasion. I speak latvian, russian, english and understand and can read ukrainian. I also know how to use weapons (AK-74, FN-FAL, MG3, MP-40, F1 hand grenades and small arms). I'm willing to kill enemy and risk my own life while doing that in name of freedom. This is my best chance to get into real action and even more important this thing matters because next will be Latvia that is invaded by mr. Putin. Write to me in forum PM and I will reply in 24 hours or less.

Crimea is sanatorium and resort. But here do not treat retarded guests and the mentally ill guests.

Actually not anyone's invasion. Has rolled back to the previous version Constitution of the Republic Crimea, which are more comfortable for us.

[Balthazar]

"Invasion", "aggression", "thousands of victims" LOL

That's why I've dropped TV many years ago.

[Morbid]

mystery miner why dont you mention the nationalistic and hugely russiaphobic boot camps that been military training and radicalising brainwashed west ukranian young people in estonia where nazi followers are thriving. they were drawn towards right sector armed group in west ukraine that made the regime change in kiev. tell how the right sector snipers were shooting young guys in the back to make bodycount.
watch how they sent young kids to walk towards berkut forces while being shot from direction of high rise hotel taken over by armed right sector militants. in the background somebody directs cameraman to film certain place as 'there gonna be bodies there, film that part' before there were any casualties - therefore the cameraman was placed there to film deaths and they were informed that there will be shooting. these brainwashed people were a sacrifice to use as a bargaining chip to start using weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9LiRiO1eY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[bryant.coleman]

But do they want to live in Russia?
With so many russians fleeing the country for western europe , I doubt that's what they wish.

Out of the 143 million Russians, how many "fled" to Western Europe during the last 10 years? May be a few hundred thousand at the most. That is still less than 1%.

Eastern Ukrainians want the recognition of their mother tongue (Russian language), which is currently under a near complete ban. Unless the Western Ukrainians respect the language and culture of the Easterners, there will be no united Ukraine.

[pororo]

Russia have many people who migrated to the Ukraine

The situation is opposite, Ukrainians are working in Russian Federation.

You're both wrong.  There was,and continuing, migration between two countries, and large. But it is only now become "international". A couple of decades ago it was one country and one people.
divide et impera

[pororo]

Why do those people keep running up just to get shot? what is the purpose?

They disoriented, shooting goes with them.

[olexx]

The end could be nearer than you think — Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/03/end-nearer-think-paul-craig-roberts/

[t-dvlpr]

But do they want to live in Russia?
With so many russians fleeing the country for western europe , I doubt that's what they wish.

Out of the 143 million Russians, how many "fled" to Western Europe during the last 10 years? May be a few hundred thousand at the most. That is still less than 1%.

Eastern Ukrainians want the recognition of their mother tongue (Russian language), which is currently under a near complete ban. Unless the Western Ukrainians respect the language and culture of the Easterners, there will be no united Ukraine.

It is not true!

[Morbid]

Why do those people keep running up just to get shot? what is the purpose?

its a provocation for right sector militia to use arms against government by claiming that swat is shooting civilians when in fact they shoot their own to get bodycount. they shielding against the berkut (poloice) forces when in fact they are being shot from building behind them which has been taken over by right sector. they eventually took control of the government and now west defends them and calls russia invader. - is that fair?

this situation is the same as in korea, afghanistan, south american countries, iraq, lybia, syria. i cant believe that people cant see all this..