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[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Armstrong is so incredibly naive
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 2:04 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/thatcher-the-euro/

Alan and Lady Thatcher were my friends as was Milton Friedman. However, I was unaware that Milton had told them about me.

That you don't even know how you were introduced to good friends in high places, should be instructive to you about how you don't know the
discussions amongst the highest echelons of the globalists such as Soros, Kissinger, Rockefeller, Brzezinski, etc..

You have overconfidence and a confirmation biases w.r.t. to your ability to see what is really behind the deepest curtain. If learned anything about the scientific method and statistical analysis, you know a
confirmation bias is a formidable weapon against truth.

Unquestionably, the Euro experiment is a total disaster for Europe for it was deliberately designed for political-ends not based upon economic soundness. It will be the self-interest of government that destroys it. Just look at Brussels. The design of the Euro was faulty and they knew it from the start creating a monetary union preaching savings on foreign exchange while hiding the agenda to federalize Europe. The elite politicians just needed to sell the idea and swear it was not some federalist agenda. Margaret Thatcher tried to fight against that agenda within her own cabinet. I was there and had intimate conversations about this with her. It was after the 1987 election, when Thatcher became much more an isolated figure within government fighting with members in her own cabinet who wanted to join the Euro as a new Bretton Woods. There was some New World Order in the creation of the Euro that one government would eliminate war. However, I would say the majority in the UK who wanted to join the Euro were trying to recreate Bretton Woods’ fixed rate regime that began with the ERM that also collapsed.

So even you realize that the goal all along was to create a one-europe dictatorship, yet you still deny that there were higher echelons of globalists behind the scenes who were giving money here and there to influence key members of the cabinet. If you studied Anthony Sutton's detailed research into the money trail, you can see the modus operandi of the elite is they fund movements, such as the Bolsheviks, Prescott Bush funding Hitler, Rockefeller funding the U.N. and thus the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment and Rockefeller funded the feminism and environmental movements through various NGOs and foundations.

The globalists are moving us towards a one world international reserve currency, because they know it is the natural order of things because governance is always corrupt. Thus much better they will control the discipline of the international money supply and/or basket weightings. And with that control...

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/i-told-you-so/

“We are on the verge of global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the new world order.”

- David Rockefeller

The truth is sad to say, but we are in the phase of Govern by Crisis. That is the only time something will happen. In that respect, David Rockefeller was correct. The majority of people in power are not willing to risk the status quo until they see they have no other choice. I have been working on a small conference in Washington for those who are interested to lay out the problems and possible solutions. It will be a very small group.

I would like to think what you say is possible. But it just is not. Those who think there can even be a one-world government have never dealt with politics. It is a frustrating and monumental task to change direction.

Your huge myopia is that you don't understand that the discord between people is a power vacuum that gives rise to government (according to Max Weber's canonical definition of govt, "a monopoly on force" to restore order and solidarity) and also the discord between nations is a power vacuum that gives rise to a DEEPER STATE known as the global elite who effectively use their power to restore order.

This international reserve currency is a natural outcome.

But as I explained to you, the thermodynamics and trend of entropy is such that the centralized order is a stagnant and dying paradigm, and the entropy blows out to new frontiers routing around the Coasian barrier of the power vacuums.

ONLY FRONTIERS HAVE EVER BEEN THE SOLUTION AND NEXT STEP.

Your participation in a top-down Bretton Woods #2 will be participating in what is dying and enslaving the world.

VOTING IS THE PROBLEM.

Only technology and frontiers that result from it (e.g. better ocean navigation when geography of earth was still a frontier) are worth discussing and working on.

The point is to stay in their face. You have to be known BEFORE the event. There is ZERO chance of getting your foot in the door after the fact claiming I told you so. They will never believe you. Me, they all know. I was even introduced on Capitol Hill as the guy with the model the Executive has been trying to suppress. They know what I created and they know what I forecast. I will not have to prove anything when the system crumbles.

You go ahead masturbating with political power vacuums. You can just join up with Rockefeller et al and pretend that better 10 year plans will make a better world. Then you will be like Woodrow Wilson and write on your death bed how you have inadvertently handled the power to the a den of thieves.

I guess you are incapable of working this out in your mind beforehand.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/nsa-the-next-shoe/

I have been concerned about the NSA because this is getting very Orwellian. This is not about terrorism, it is about identifying anyone who would rise up against the government in the coming Civil Unrest storm. It has been reported that the biggest revelation about the NSA is yet to come. Here is the next shoe. The NSA is gathering images of everyone including emails, Facebook, and photo ids, This is all going into a database so they can scan a crowd and know who you are.

I am against conspiracy theories BECAUSE they too often go to extremes and that provides perfect cover for the truth to hide in plain view. I know what is capable with technology for I use it to predict the next step in the economy. These people seem to be obsessed with protecting government from the people and that is what is scary. That eliminates democracy and strips us of all liberties. This is not a stark world in which I wish to live under a microscope. This to me is one-step shy of creating some master race of obedient servants – the same thinking that went on behind the Iron Curtain. See something – say something..

This is natural outcome as technology will always be used by the power vacuum to restore order and control over the discordant sheep.

Only those intellectuals and hackers who are astute enough to find the new frontiers will escape the cancer, e.g. Eastern Rome Byzantine then Genoa and Venice.

The rest will fall into this cancerous abyss of a new international reserve currency enslavement model, e.g. the Dark Age of Western Rome.



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/01/jfk-conspiracy-silver-or-vietnam/

Silver rose in price and it was simply no longer feasible to use it as coinage. Most government followed suit but some were 2 years behind. It was not a coordination of governments, but a free market rising in price.

Coinage rising in price is not feasible to use as money when governments don't want deflation and are dependent on debasing the money supply to fund their expanding socialism. In other words, governments all over the world didn't want free market money supply. Gresham's Law was in force as the legal tender face value was less than the melt value (or headed that trajectory).

I am not arguing that money should be some fixed physical thing. Rather I am arguing that governments don't want to give up their power over the money supply to the free markets.

This reasoning is just so bizarre it approaches  lunacy. Whoever makes up this stuff obviously cannot read and comprehend at the same time. Executive Order 11110 dealt with the problem that silver was rising in price and therefore it could no longer be used for a monetary instrument given the Bretton Woods fixed rate ideas. This is why there can be no standard because everything with time fluctuates. The Treasury was under order to maintain the fixed rate of silver and there was a tax placed on trading in silver back in the Great Depression in 1937. Kennedy was authorizing the Treasury to issue notes ONLY if needed for the transition in the elimination of silver from the monetary system. It has nothing to do with stripping the authority of the Federal Reserve to issue notes.

That order freed the Treasury to allow some free market back into the money supply. And that had to be stopped because it directly threatened the globalists' control over the money supply via their capture of the governments and central banks.

And once again you have slandered us, but we are much more intelligent than you.

Your drivel is approaching the point of "ignore".

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[AnonyMint]

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Subject: I expect all TRACEABLE assets will be effectively confiscated
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 12:02 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid/

In this respect, real estate and stocks will be the vehicle to make the transition to the new currency that comes for the big money.

The USA has contingent liabilities of $200 trillion and even if every asset in the USA was confiscated it wouldn't amount to $200 trillion. This discrepancy will worsen as Obamacare, rising taxes kick in and other measures to nationalize the wealth.

They are tracking everything including real estate and stocks. Everything will be taken as the nations try to not default on their debts. It will be a downward spiral in the abyss, because the more assets taken to pay debts, the worse the economy and thus the lower the tax revenues so the more they will have to take.

There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Please differentiate between assets of the upper middle class and  the masses
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 11:46 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid-2/

A host of emails have come in on this subject from did non-Americans have assets seized by USA after 1934 to can real estate be used to the extreme won’t they just confiscate all traceable assets.

If you are going to look at real estate to shelter assets, you should look at Texas and Florida. Typically, assets are seized because a person has been sued, lost the case and a money judgment has been entered or the government has imposed some outrageous fine. This is why O.J. Simpson ran to buy a house in Florida when he was being sued by the Goldman family. Why? They cannot be seized by anything other than the failure to pay a mortgage. If things go real bad, we will see State Rights start to emerge.

Florida and Texas provide the widest coverage of asset protection. In Texas, for example, up to 200 acres of land can be claimed under the state homestead exemption, no matter what its value might be. Additionally, there are very few personal property assets that the typical person owns that can be seized to satisfy a judgment. The easiest way to protect the largest number of assets is to reside in a state where laws offer wide protection. You might want to consider buying in Texas or Florida BEFORE any such event because moving simply to avoid paying a judgment or creditors is usually considered a fraudulent transfer of assets. The court in the state where the judgment was entered will rule the assets still “reside” in the original state and order their seizure.

There was no confiscation of foreign assets in the USA and as for confiscating ALL traceable assets that is just absurd and paranoid. There would be massive civil unrest if the government ever tried to do such a thing. The entire global infrastructure would collapse. Nations have gone to war because a country defaulted on its debts. Therefore, such an extreme would be impossible absent a communist revolution.

As long as they can target the upper class for confiscation and default on unfunded pensions on the lower class, they will proceed until they hit the wall of resistance. The French Revolution was actually 72 years in the making. It began with the bailout in 1720 of the Mississippi Bubble. France assumed the debts to prevent war for many non-French were investors. The oppression of taxes to pay for the bailout from 1720 set in motion the French Revolution, which began on the 14th of July, 1789 when armed citizens stormed and captured the Bastille prison freeing the oppressed. The 72 year cycle ended with the December 11th, 1792 trial of the King Louis XVI  who was then executed on the 21st of January 1793.

Note the plan is to isolate the upper middle class for confiscation because the masses will be dependent of the State for their health care, food stamps, rent, unemployment insurance payments, etc..

Thus advising your wealthy readers to buy real estate to get off the grid is not going to work out. They will clawback all withdrawals from European banks as an intent to avoid the bailins, which were announced publicly long ago. This is a fraudulent transfer.

There won't be any resistance because the masses will be dependent on the State and supporting the "99% against the 1%".

The State rights won't help you when the federal government and G20 asserts that the individual moved funds fraudulently to avoid bailins and taxation.

The MF Global incident was the trial balloon for clawbacks.

At best, their real estate will become illiquid and locked up in ligitation, and probably also tainted as no one will want to buy an asset which has a disputed claim against it by the feds and the G20.

I told this is nothing like the French Revolution nor the Great Depression. This is more like the fall of Rome. This is the death of stored capital and the rise of the Knowledge Age (individual brain as capital) as the new frontier.

You would much better to advise clients to buy precious metals as these are untraceable. They can liquidate these by selling on a decentralized exchange coming for crypto-currencies, with personal meetups.

Only two asset classes will survive for the wealthy:

1. precious metals (and collectables)
2. crypto-currencies

The global elite and some multi-nationals will retain assets because they are protected by being complicit with the DEEPER STATE.

Indeed they are going to create the worst global crisis ever intentionally in order to bring about mass support for a new world order.


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Subject: You recommend Bush's states?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 12:07 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Bush's state is Texas and his brother was (is?) governor of Florida.

It is clear that the masses will not agree to austerity, thus they are going to be very much in favor of stripping the rich of their assets. As this ratchets downward, the middle class segregate into those who have fallen dependent on the government and those who are now the "rich". For example in France the masses initially supported 75% tax against rich, until they realized this included themselves, next they will face economic implosion and then the mass support for "tax the rich" will rise again. This is the ratcheting process.

Who is going to resist? The boomers are too old and dependent on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.. Ditto Europe. The youth are unemployed and so the best way to employ them is to create wars which will come on schedule 2018 or so.

Also I didn't assert that JFK was killed only for his EO 1110 about silver certificates. The Vietnam war and Cuba stances could also have been reasons.

[AnonyMint]

There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.

Wow, you paint an awful picture.

Sorry and maybe I am overstating, but did you think this egregious socialism was free ride forever?

The majority are dependent on the government and debt. When those are defaulted, the majority are unfunded. For example in the USA (and apparently Europe is worse) the government has $200 trillion in actuarial (Net Present Value) constituent liabilities, yet even if we confiscated every asset in the USA, it wouldn't reach $200 trillion.

As far as I can calculate in my mind, mathematically there are only two possibilities.

1. We default on these obligations and debts, thus the majority will be impoverished. We could then rebuild faster as capital would be freed up to invest.

2. We avoid austerity and defaults by stealing all the capital to sustain the socialism, thus impoverishing everyone over time and sliding towards a Dark Age.

My assumption is the powers that be prefer #2, because it maximizes their gains in terms of political transfer to global institutions such as the IMF and it maximizes the relative stature of the multi-nationals versus the millionaires who can be fleeced with the socialism of "99% versus the 1%" (which actually means the 1% elite and poor against the upper middle class).

For example all the environmentalism (and feminism) crap was set into motion (by Rockefeller) a long ago as the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment, so now the elite will reap the rewards as they can set these carbon taxes against the millionaires and businesses, and these turtle habitats against ranchers, etc.. Watch Texas's sovereignty become shredded.

Remember this fact. The USA States can't run deficits, but the Feds can. This will force the States to give up their sovereignty to the Feds in order to receive bailouts. In effect, the same situation exists in Europe as the member nations' bonds (other than Germany and a few other northern European nations) will not receive a bid without the ECB backing. Is Texas economically strong enough and politically unified enough to stand on its own? Maybe. Texans are pretty hardy. Yet there are big cities in Texas with government dependents. Perhaps Texans could fracture. In any case, all this chaos is not good for real estate. Titles will become uncertain. My understanding is many titles are now encumbered with uncertainty due to the disputes about paper work from the 2007 subprime fiasco.

I don't see what can resist this outcome. This is perfectly set up by the global elite to slide into the abyss. The forces that would resist this are all gone, because the masses have been converted into socialists.

Sorry but I think Armstrong is entirely missing the point of how serious this is.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Problem is there is no more "fair" compromise...until we hit rock  bottom
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 2:24 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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The key strategy of the globalists was to promote corruption, indebtedness, and complicity of all people to such a degree that no one has any wealth that was obtained fairly.

Obama articulated this when he said, "you didn't earn that without the government being there".

In other words, even if you had a legitimate business, fact is that none of you today would have the wealth you have had it not been for the debt bubble that was extracting resources from the third world impoverishing them and sustaining a debt bubble in the west.

Every customer you had in your business was funded indirectly by the socialism paradigm.

Thus as the boomers slide into poverty, they will say that everyone must share the blame equally. Their 1960s idealism and pothhead thinking hasn't faded. And they raised their youth (not the X gens like me who they abandoned) rather those born in 1990s who they spoiled with socialism, with this same idealistic mindset.

We will share all the assets of the world socialistically until we hit rock bottom, then we will reset with a new idealism how one world transparency over nations.

Welcome to 1984 in 2032. But first we have to burn all the bridges.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Armstrong still can't see this was all designed by the globalists,  not by bureaucrats
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 2:37 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/facta-july-1st-77000-firms-worldwide-turning-over-info-on-americans/

FACTA is coming July 1st. Already some 77,000 banks and foreign firms have signed up to rat-out Americans wherever they hide. While those who hate the “rich” cheer, what has been lost in this proverbial bureaucratic mindless rationalization of the real world is any understanding of how the world really functions.

Precisely like Obamacare that said everyone had to have maternity leave regardless of age, so even I lost my heathcare from Horizon Blue Cross, FACTA makes the same stupid conclusion. They assume ANYONE with a foreign account must be evading taxes. Hence, no American, including myself, can have an account overseas even when doing legitimate business. These brain-dead nasty bureaucrats know nothing of the real world and cannot even contemplate that now no foreign bank will accept an American because they must report to the USA or have their own assets confiscated in violation of international law.

Martin are you really that naive? You can't see how this all fits perfectly into the plan I have described to you in my prior communications?

How can you be so blind as to think the bureaucrats are running the circus?

FACTA was of course seeded by the global elite. The bureaucrats are either bought off in some cases or just caught up in the system in most cases, and thus do what they've been corralled to do. The global elite made this strategy and is working out very well for their goals.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Final message to Armstrong
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 9:08 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/03/the-destruction-of-the-world-economy/

The Senate subcommittee has been examining tax avoidance by multinational companies. Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), Hewlett-Packard Co. and Apple Inc. have all been the subjects of previous hearings by the panel. The 2013 investigation into Apple uncovered a subsidiary that earned $30 billion over four years with no home for tax purposes.

The subcommittee also has investigated and targeted Swiss banks such as Credit Suisse Group AG for aiding tax evasion by wealthy Americans. The results have actually been quite devastating. Now the multinationals are being hunted by everyone else as well – especially France. What is good for the USA, is now open sport for everybody else.

Martin you observe going forward how the headlines are against the multi-nationals, but the end result of legislation will be slaps on the wrist for the multi-nationals who are in good favor with the global elite and dacronian against the out-of-favor multi-nationals, individuals and small businessmen. You are misdirected by the magician's slight of hand again as usual. You naive buffoon.

The greed of governments all on its own is destroying the world economy without secret societies, clubs, or cabals. This hunt for taxes on a global scale is reversing everything we built coming out of World War II. Even the idea that a New World Order would bring peace and prevent a third world war has crumbled to dust and fallen to the ground. Not only experiments like the Euro have utterly failed

How much do you want to wager that the New World Order does not come about 2032ish as the resolution from the ashes of this globalist designed destruction of the nation-states by funding and promoting corruption, feminism, environmentalism, etc??

And you are aiding them by blaming this on the Bureaucrats instead of blaming it on the complicity between VOTING which is the power vacuum that creates the global elite. You are helping to confuse mankind so that mankind does not take the appropriate counter measures which is to seek out the next frontier in the Knowledge Age.

You even defraud your readers by telling them to avoid crypto-currencies.

This is the demise of the West. We are now watching the very destruction of society and everything we thought life was about because these people need money to hold the reigns of power. No private group will survive right down to the bankers. This is checkmate as it has always been throughout history – them against us. Don’t worry – they always lose. However, sometimes they have taken us with them into the abyss we call a Dark Age – the ultimate Mad Max Event.

Wrong! We are complicit, if you are referring the masses and people like you who believe in VOTING and political reform.

The only few of us are actually opposed to the trend are those of us who are opting out of the entire system by becoming UNTRACEABLE and we refuse to VOTE nor be involved in any masturbation called reform.

Let the motherfucker burn to the ground. It is just time.

The people are all corrupted and selfish. They reaped what they sowed. The borrower is slave to the lender. Read your Proverbs.

[AnonyMint]

Adios forum. Thanks.

[heskey]

When I contemplate the world view that AnonyMint is portraying, I get struck with a feeling of sadness - partly because I realize that it is true, but even more so because you seem to be overlooking the spiritual aspect of life. (From my interpretation of what you write)

One might argue that spirituality has no real supporting evidence, that we are merely a more sophisticated category of apes, and that getting into this stuff is more of a hang-up that ultimately is to be counted as a weakness in the course of nature.
As I see it, life then becomes a matter of carefully considered decisions, "according to that fact I should or should not do this". It also strengthens the scale of measurement and comparison, some people simply becomes waste of time, because of their inability to comprehend or interpret 'reality' correctly.

But if we take one step back. As we assume that there is no such thing as soul or spirituality, or that these things are to be viewed as an illusory matter - this does imply that life itself is meaningless, because that 'thing' which is directing our actions and decisions, really doesn't exist. Therefore no actions becomes false, and we could just as well kill ourselves or drink excessive amounts of beer, as to be struggling with the survival in a painful world?

When I look at the world today, when I look inwards and on the people around me, I see the 1000's of years of misery that we all carry. The hate, the envy, the doubt, the lack of care, and the judgements we pass on each other - it sure is hell for many of us.
But behind all that I also see the reasons - the frightened egos, the narrow-mindedness, the lack of understanding. If we could understand each other and go deep into our misery, pain and agony which has grown out of a million years of evolution - perhaps we would seek to heal, to feel and to help one another.

I think your deep insights into society actually is the reflection of insights that goes just as deep within our psyche. What we need to understand is not how to survive as a fragment in a collapsing world, but rather how we can change the whole by changing our own contribution.

[herzmeister]

That's similar to one of the definitions of spirituality that I like.

Spirituality is everything that wouldn't exist in a world that consists solely of machines and robots of maximized "rationality" and efficiency.

They'd have no purpose for art, music, dance, everything that makes life "lively" and worthwhile for us humans (with a soul).

In fact the robots and machines should come to the seemingly only rational ultimate conclusion: To immediately suspend everything they're doing and just freeze in order to stop raising entropy and contributing to the heat death of the universe.

But somehow there seems to be more to life, to existence, which is hard to grab and hard to explain.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: most people are sheep
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 16, 2014 12:28 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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I have come to the conclusion that we are not "saving the world". There is
no hope of saving most of the people from themselves. Most people are dumb
sheep and will gravitate to the failures of collectivism just as I wrote
in my seminal article as linked from the OP of the Economic Devastation
thread wherein I wrote in the linked article that organism in a petri dish
are unable to see their plight objectively and thus will continue until
they consume all their resources.

Even Armstrong has come to this conclusion as you read his latest blog
articles over the past week.

We are saving ourselves. Life is a competition. We have to get out there
and create the new frontier for those who are smart enough to avail of it.

Armstrong never did get the point that only frontiers provide an escape
valve from Dark Ages. He still thinks the only escape valve is reform. He
is egregiously mistaken.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/15/the-hunt-for-money/

"I do this in hopes that if we can all spread the word,
when we do crash and burn, there will be a choice. We either go into the
darkness and end up total mindless drones and government becomes the
complete authoritarian state, or we move into the light of freedom as they
did in the 1700s. "

Never do we reform collectivism. We only compete with it by creating a new
frontier. Even Armstrong has admitted the OPPORTUNITIES are no longer
frontiers but rather increasing the collectivism:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/15/migration-discrimination-language/

"There is a difference socially between those who came
BEFORE the New Deal and after. There were no grand government programs
previously. True, the welfare state today can provide the added incentive
to come, but this is still in the category of OPPORTUNITY.

...

I often point out that BEFORE the New Deal, what made America work was
DISCRIMINATION. Of course people immediately assume I am being racist. The
truth is quite different. Whoever was the LAST off the boat was ALWAYS
discriminated against. That was actually good, because ABSENT the social
programs, what took place was to find a decent paying job it forced
whatever group to speak English. "

Also Armstrong never did realize that the Jews are appointed by the Bible
to control the sheep (they can lend to gentiles). This power vacuum of
sheep has to be filled, it is a basic law of entropy and Thermodynamics.
As the Bible predicts, the wealth is being concentrated and this will
eventually all end up on the mountain in Israel.

You see the fiat masters and their sheep are dying. Only the frontier of
crypto-currencies and virtual high tech work will prosper.

So it is time to say goodbye to most of the world. Let them go into their
Mad Max. It can't be stopped.

Asia will rise after 2020, but as slaves to multi-nationals and
regional/world government control by the oligarchs. Welcome to 1984.
Remember (north east) Asian babies don't have the gag reflex, they are
obedient slaves.

[herzmeister]

btw, you can vote for "Dark Enlightenment" here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653448.0 

[AnonyMint]

The Dark Enlightenment is not correctly summarized in the OP.

Go here for more information on the Dark Enlightenment:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495527.0

In essence, it is the rise of anarchist cyberworld Knowledge Age, where government is irrelevant and impotent and the individual and his technological capabilities rein supreme. Most of the population will fall into a Dark Age, because they can't compete effectively against hackers and they are reliant on collectivism, debt, and the bankrupt industrial age.

Oh and I am more important than Moldberg in the Dark Enlightenment.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Re: most people are sheep
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 16, 2014 3:25 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Your opinion of sociology is irrelevant. Do some science first to test
your hypothesis.

You will find that power vacuum incentivizes a power structure to fill it,
just like any other opportunity incentivizes organisms to avail of it.
People are diverse and there is always some set of people to fill a
particular opportunity, i.e. the power vacuum of democracy is an
opportunity for a power structure thus one must exist.

The numerous facts make it implausible that we just have random events on
a global scale without any coordination by the super elite.

For example, did we end up with global warming tax on a global scale
because of Clinton, Bush, and Obama, and totally ignore that Rockefeller
funded the U.N., thus the 1978 U.N. Conference of Human Environment and
loads of other environmental NGOs, etc..

I am tired of making these points. I already made them in exhaustive
detail in the bitcointalk.org forum and in my emails to Armstrong which
were copied to the forum.


anonymous replied:
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Yes.  I understand the principle of Oligarchy.  I have long held the
belief that the American political system is one (I just didn't know the
word for it until a year ago).  It is neither a republic or a democracy.

The fact remains that every powerful man I've met can usually get along
with other powerful men in so far as they share a vision.  But  (business
owner, investor, etc) that is a position of power usually has a non
standard view of the world and too much ego and differing value systems to
get along with other strong personalities to unite on the level I believe
would be necissary to accomplish world population control.

I will look more into Anthony Sutton's stuff.


AnonyMint replied:
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Do you want to be objective or just be like Armstrong and hold a
subjective opinion?

The documentation of the elite manipulation is extensive such as Anthony
Sutton's detailed research. Ignoring facts is worse than subjectivity, it
is disingenuous.

I guess you've never heard of the word oligarchy. Cooperation at such
levels happens so much we even have that name for it in our vocabulary.



anonymous wrote:
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I want to make this strong clarification.  I share many of the concerns
about the debt load on the US, the "sheeple" concept of American
Consumerism, and disallusion with our banking system.

That said - I do not believe the super elite are trying to intentionally
reduce the worlds population to 500,000 or that there are Alex Jones style
global conspiracies.  Huge egos never get along long enough to create
conspiracies on the scale needed for that to be true.  (These are my
personal opinions).

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Google wallet vs. crypto-currencies
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, June 19, 2014 1:41 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/19/google-the-new-bank-rollover-bitcoin-banks-its-the-internet-revolution/

Armstrong is entirely correct that banking, checking accounts, and payments will move nearly entirely digital within the next decade.

He is also correct that the masses will choose to stay with big government and their home fiat, thus Google wallet.

He fails to note that Bitcoin is also being taken over by Bitpay and Coinbase, the former of which is controlled by Peter Thiel the founder of Paypal. So Bitcoin will be brought into the fold of the government controlled and sanctioned digital currency system. I had been one of the first to write about this at the following linked post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557732.msg6076321#msg6076321

What Armstrong fails to consider is the uses of alternative crypto-currencies for which Google Wallet and Peter Thiel controlled Bitcoin will not be competitive with.

1. Anonymous store-of-wealth. The anonymous altcoins will be able to hide wealth from the coming confiscation.

2. Anonymous transfer of wealth across borders. So you want to move some gold. First you sell it for some anonymous crypto-currency, then you sell that altcoin for gold in the new location.

3. Sell download software and online services anonymously such that your income can not be tracked nor taxed. This will also require anonymous internet sites such a Tor services, and we really need an improved anonymity model for the internet that is better than Tor. While the youth are unemployed, you think they won't like to sell their services and apps without being tracked for taxes? The youth are going to see how corrupt government is and not want to fund it.

4. Earn some crypto-currency for free just by turning on your computer. This creates a demand for merchants. Don't tell me the youth in the coming global crisis won't like to get some free money while they sit at home bored and unemployed.

5. Due to the $227 trillion global debt bubble with $1000+ trillion of unfunded government liabilities with another $1000+ trillion of credit swap derivatives to keep the bond bubble propped up, this has provided a massive level of funding for an oversupply of everything in the global economy. Thus the global economy will shrink by at least 50%, perhaps as much as 80%. Whereas the knowledge age economy where individuals work out of their homes producing online services, software, 3D printer designs, etc and sell them online will grow very fast. If this grows to 10% of what the global economy is now, and the global economy shrinks by 80%, then the knowledge age economy will the majority of the global economy.

There is going to be a huge competition underway between Google and the altcoin developers to see who can provide the infrastructure and future of this knowledge age economy. Currently Google et al appear to have a massive lead. However, if certain highly capable developer(s) can get entirely healthy and focused, you could be very surprised what one person with a $billion premine to spend on open source bounties could do. Large companies move too slowly.

Let's watch this space closely to see if an credible alternative to Google wallet appears in the crypto-currency scene.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: official digital currencies vs. gold and crypto-currencies
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, June 21, 2014 9:13 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/21/electronic-money-starting-in-london/

In London, buses will start in July accepting cards only – no more cash. Currency Exchanges are now offering cards instead of cash that they market as being safer in travel.  In Manchester, all the shops on Chorlton Street will no longer accept cash – only cards. This is a test to see if society is ready for the change. This is a major effort to move in preparation for the cashless society. While the goldbugs have been touting that gold will rise and the dollar will collapse because of fiat money, technology has passed them by making their arguements barbaric relics of the past. The future role of gold may be as a medium of exchange not as an alternative to paper money, but in the elimination of paper money gold may become the currency of the underground economy – not Bitcoin.

Gold can be an underground store-of-value, but as I alluded to Martin in my prior communication, and even Martin has written that gold can't transport across check points and borders any more without being registered with the authorities. Thus gold can not by itself function as a medium-of-exchange for the underground economy, because then exchange could only occur on a local scope. And Bitcoin has no anonymity features built in, and Tor is likely a honeypot as well most users don't employ it with Bitcoin. Thus alternative crypto-currency(ies) with anonymity features will rise up to serve the underground economy, and as a means to sell and re-purchase gold across distance as I explained in my prior communication.

And the other point I made in my prior communication is that the official system being offered by the globalists via their capture of the multi-national corporations and government, is an imploding economy post-2016. Thus those sheep who stay with the official digital instruments are going to be declining with the Titanic. This is what will provide the demand for the underground crypto-currencies and will be rapidly growing market. Of course the underground crypto-currency will not rise enough or fast enough to offset all the official digital money usage. The majority will rather choose to die on the Titanic and the official system will collapse into a big mess.

Massive chaos ahead and the majority will ride the official system down into the abyss of rising taxes and Orwellian socialism.

I see the possibility of a ray of hope in the tunnel coming from alternative crypto-currency and their adoption by the technologically astute thus providing a frontier to escape the Orwellian socialism. And this could spin off into an entirely new internet and global KNOWLEDGE AGE economy that is untouchable by the corruption. If successful, then those who don't adopt it will fall into their own Dark Age, akin to how Eastern Rome broke away from Western as the Western Rome fell into a 600 year Dark Age.

Again the only hope has always been frontiers that compete against the dying Orwellian socialism. This time the frontiers are technological, not geographical.

The geographical frontiers this time are the developing world, especially Asia, but realize the Asians (and even the Latin Americans) are fully on board with the Orwellian socialism, e.g. China has a CTV camera on every lamppost. The developing world will rise after 2020 because they aren't saddled with aging boomers and constituent government liabilities, but developing world will rise within the official system controlled by the globalists, thus it won't be a complete frontier. We would need to look towards high tech solutions for that this time.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: there are no geographical frontiers,  because world is complicit with globalist plans
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, June 22, 2014 7:39 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/22/hunt-for-money-tisa-negotiations-leaked-by-wikileaks/

Leaked WikiLeaks documents reveal the Abbott government in Australia is moving with the EU and the USA in a secret trade negotiation that is aimed at bringing about radical deregulation of international banking and finance sector. While this Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA) negotiations, reported by The Age, show Australian trade negotiators are working on a financial services agenda that could end the Australian government’s ”four pillars” banking policy and allow foreign banks much greater freedom to operate in Australia, there is also a secret agenda according to our sources that go hand in hand with global reporting of anyone who has accounts outside their home country. This is under the cloud of deregulating financial institutions when in fact it is also ensuring transparency for government tax authorities to hunt money internationally.

All financial data will be freely transferred overseas. This is the main objective. I was in Brussels for meetings. The most interesting aspect of this trip was they stopped me at customs because I was dressed in a suit and tie. It was clearly a money hunt inspection. I produced my passport and they wanted to see where I bought the ticket. I clearly would not have owed taxes on some imported trinkets and there were no questions regarding that. It was simply a stop and check to see if I was moving money between countries and where was I domiciled. This is the FIRST time I have ever been stopped ever. Let’s see what happens when I return to the States.

I want to refer readers and Martin Armstrong to what I communicated to him previously as quoted below...

Again the only hope has always been frontiers that compete against the dying Orwellian socialism. This time the frontiers are technological, not geographical.

The geographical frontiers this time are the developing world, especially Asia, but realize the Asians (and even the Latin Americans) are fully on board with the Orwellian socialism, e.g. China has a CTV camera on every lamppost. The developing world will rise after 2020 because they aren't saddled with aging boomers and constituent government liabilities, but developing world will rise within the official system controlled by the globalists, thus it won't be a complete frontier. We would need to look towards high tech solutions for that this time.

Emphasize my statement, "realize the Asians (and even the Latin Americans) are fully on board with the Orwellian socialism".

The globalists have been pulling the strings even in the Philippines where they recently were able to get similar liberalization of foreign ownership of banking passed through the Senate.

http://www.rappler.com/business/industries/209-banking-and-financial-services/60160-senate-approves-bill-full-foreign-ownership-philippine-banks

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2014/05/16/house-passes-bill-allow-foreign-ownership-banks-343179

See how the globalists push this through with their funding and capture of influence think tanks and organizations (operating at many diverse levels which can only be detailed fully with forensic research):

http://business.inquirer.net/166364/business-group-seeks-more-leeway-for-foreign-banks-in-ph


Even this media circus in the Philippines now about abuse of the pork barrel funds, is all about getting the Philippine public to agree to end the bank secrecy law and also so the public will support the usurpation of the Constitution to change to a Parlimentary system so the control is further shifted away from local government to globalists.

The plan of course is to track down all money and also to enable foreign ownership of land so when the SOBs crash the global economy, the multi-nationals can come in and buy up the prime land cheap.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: James Turk echos my point about gold & crypto-currency;  Armstrong continues his hysterical nonsense
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, June 22, 2014 12:50 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Gold can be an underground store-of-value, but as I alluded to Martin in my prior communication, and even Martin has written that gold can't transport across check points and borders any more without being registered with the authorities. Thus gold can not by itself function as a medium-of-exchange for the underground economy, because then exchange could only occur on a local scope. And Bitcoin has no anonymity features built in, and Tor is likely a honeypot as well most users don't employ it with Bitcoin. Thus alternative crypto-currency(ies) with anonymity features will rise up to serve the underground economy, and as a means to sell and re-purchase gold across distance as I explained in my prior communication.

James Turk echos what I wrote recently as quoted above. Here is the link to James Turk interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbtmM9ELWdQ#t=1122


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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/22/welcome-the-federalization-of-one-europe-to-save-the-euro/

The new push in Europe is to rush Federalization to “save” the euro, which is doomed anyway because of its fractured design. The real self-interest here is to save the jobs in Brussels. The birth of the Euro was accompanied with an oath that this would never be the federalization of Europe. Politicians simply see only their own power and we are rapidly going down the drain on the entire global economy that these people are destroying to retain their own personal power. There is no one-world government agenda here for that would require surrendering Brussels to some other entity. That is the way conspiracies really function by having people exaggerate a trend to something absurd and then just the federalization of Europe seems better that the world. They are all pursuing just their own self-interest and this is the global agenda of sharing info to hunt down loose change everywhere and the elimination of all cash to then force capital into banks that they can grab when they desire. Fortunately for them, 90% of the people are blind, and 3% are the real conspiracy crowd so that leave only about 7% that see the train coming down the track for what it is – a train.

Welcome the Federalization of Europe – one state – one union. Brussels can only see their failure is the lack of power, not because they do not know how to manage anything.

Amazing isn't how all these self interested politicians and bureaucrats can't seem to plan anything correctly nor accomplish anything correctly, yet somehow we have this global coordination to track down wealth and open the exclusive doors for the multinational corporations which are owned by an oligarchy as proven by New Scientist magazine:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

Amazing how we have all the global coordination on global warming carbon credits taxation and even corporations in the Philippines (such as Henry Sy's SM malls chain) force us to use brown bags on Wednesdays because of the global warming hoax, and this seed was planted at the 1978 U.N. Convention on Human Environment and the U.N. was funded by Rockefeller after his League of Nations floundered.

So all this multiple decades of coordinated planning was just random self-interest according to Armstrong.

My Lord, you can lead a donkey to water in the desert, but you can make the damn thing drink before it collapses into the dust.

Sheesh.

At least we 3% understand where the global hegemony derives and what is necessary to create a frontier to escape from. Donkeys will lead their brethen into skeletons in the desert of no frontiers bitching the entire time about corrupt peon bureacrats and never gaining an ounce of insight into the real power structure and what technology is required to disrupt it.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Why do Singapore and Ethiopia cooperate?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 23, 2014 1:08 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/22/nsa-gathers-all-communications-everywhere/

At the link above, Armstrong documents the global cooperation on intercepting all communications.

We look on the list of 3rd parties cooperating countries, as we see the likes of Singapore and Ethiopia.

So pray tell me why in the hell would these countries cooperate if this was just self-interested, clueless bureaucrats protecting their own political power and vested interest?


Singapore and Ethiopia (for example, and there are many others on the list) don't need to hunt down the wealth of their own citizens, as their economies are not suffering from the bloated socialism and sovereign debt crisis.

There is this level of global coordination, because there is a very powerful oligarchy of globalists who control these nation-states and coordinate their plans.


Armstrong thinks they are doing this completely ignorant of the implications of how it will crash the global economy. Rather these globalists know damn well that they will crash the global economy and since they will be in control, their multi-national corporations will have special access to credit and to buy up everything cheaply at fire-sale prices.

This all about a global hegemony for this oligarchy that runs the world. The bureaucrats are just the pawns on the chessboard playing their respective bought off (vested) roles.

The real winners are always the international oligarchy, a.k.a. "banksters". These are not the banks with names such as JP Morgan and Goldman. Rather these banks are just tools of the oligarchy and any tool can be sacrificed at any time if it maximized the overall objective of global hegemony for this oligarchy.

Until Armstrong learns this fact, he will remain a naive nincompoop.

[AnonyMint]

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Society never wakes up;  stupid question exhibits an ignorant understanding of history
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 24, 2014 5:18 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/23/civil-unrest-rising-everywhere-including-the-uk/

The solutions from politics will always be the same – grab more power. We are in a downward spiral of liberty and how far we go down this path to the future will be determined by the people and if they at least wise up and see this is not class warfare, it is the people against government. This is why I say career politicians are dangerous for they can be bought way too easily as Clinton was to open the flood gates for the bankers.

This is not going to end pretty. The question is when does society wake up? Just how high will this price be that we have to pay? They will blame the rich and the idiots will cheer – get them. What will happen when there is no more wealth to hunt? We end up with a communist state by default – no wealth, just career politicians who blame everyone but themselves.

Let's take for example the French Revolution as an example. The masses rebelled due to the discontent over the mismanagement of the economy by the monarchy and nobility. However the power vacuum of democracy was filled by political corruption which had to be snuffed by a totalitarian dictator Napoleon.

The masses are sheep because planning by consensus is always a chaotic power vacuum. There is no solution to this, except to use technology to empower the individual to escape the failure of the collective. In the past the technology innovation was in the ability to populate new geographical frontiers. Now the technological innovation will be the anonymous and decentralized Knowledge Economy on the (new redesigned anonymous and decentralize) internet.

The key to understanding the outcome of this global sovereign debt crisis, is first to recognize that is not a nation-state phenomenon, rather it is global. The controllers this time are not the pawns (bureaucrats) figure heads in the nation-states, but rather the multi-national corporations and more specifically the global elite who own these.

Surely the global elite must understand that there is a huge level of overcapacity in the industrial (age) sectors. Whereas there is undercapacity in the Knowledge Age sectors, e.g. dearth of top computer programmers, etc.. Their goal is to maintain control while the industrial age declines and the knowledge age rises. They've placed their bets on Facebook, Google, etc.. They want to a centrally controlled internet and socialism. This is the only way they can maintain their overlordship status. They currently control all mass media too.

So they will maximize the debt levels and destruction of the global economy in order to plummet the sheep into an escapable socialism, wherein the entrepreneurs will always be targetted and destroyed if they don't sell out to the multi-nationals.

Of course we hackers are not going to allow them to do this. They will lose.

So it won't be society that wakes up. The hackers are already awake.

The global elite know this. Which is why they have a $3 trillion black budget for the NSA et al, so they are prepared for cyberwar.

Now prepare for battle and chaos. The sheep will be manipulated by the global elite throughout this.

And Martin Armstrong is one of the sheep who is manipulated, e.g. his myopic interpretation of for example the Ukraine conflict.