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August 31, 2018, 09:57:44 PM
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I think every project done with their ico and listing on exchanges need to remember the holders the last stage price of their ice.
I observed that most investors complain about airdrop and bounty hunters, that they're the ones who dump the price always.
I think when the project team are about to announce the listing of their project on a particular exchange, if on twitter and Telegram they should attach a sentence like "Remember our ico price is $0.5"
I noticed that most airdrop and bounty hunters don't bother to know what the ico price was all they need is making something out of it.
What do you think guys?

Not really. The price someone paid for their coins is useless information. Just like the price you paid for building or buying your house. The important information should be the value of the asset. Of course you can try to have some reference when it is a coin, not an asset, but even coins have their own proper valuation.
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August 31, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
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Do you really think bounty hunters care about what the ICO price was? They know that if they don't sell out quick, some other bounty hunter will come along and sell their tokens for less. This mentality leads to hundreds of bounty hunters dumping their tokens lower than the previous guy. If there isn't enough market demand to soak those tokens up, this lead to the market crashing.

The best way to fix this is to lock bounty payments for 6 months to a year, or release them gradually so there's a consistent flow to exchanges.
That is never going to work, it seems that you forgot that most icos disappear after just a few months or a year, a bounty hunter that knows that information is never going to promote an ico that forces him to hold his coins for a year, so an ico trying to implement such a system will simply fail since they will never find enough people to promote it while all the icos that do not implement that strategy get all the promotion.
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August 31, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
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Do you really think bounty hunters care about what the ICO price was? They know that if they don't sell out quick, some other bounty hunter will come along and sell their tokens for less. This mentality leads to hundreds of bounty hunters dumping their tokens lower than the previous guy. If there isn't enough market demand to soak those tokens up, this lead to the market crashing.

The best way to fix this is to lock bounty payments for 6 months to a year, or release them gradually so there's a consistent flow to exchanges.
That is never going to work, it seems that you forgot that most icos disappear after just a few months or a year, a bounty hunter that knows that information is never going to promote an ico that forces him to hold his coins for a year, so an ico trying to implement such a system will simply fail since they will never find enough people to promote it while all the icos that do not implement that strategy get all the promotion.
That's right and the big problem the majority of them didn't even know about that and they are blindly blaming the bounty hunters. Basically the result of the ico will based on the demand. these guys never try to realized that it will be so difficult to attract these investors and speculators.

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September 01, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
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I think every project done with their ico and listing on exchanges need to remember the holders the last stage price of their ice.
I observed that most investors complain about airdrop and bounty hunters, that they're the ones who dump the price always.
I think when the project team are about to announce the listing of their project on a particular exchange, if on twitter and Telegram they should attach a sentence like "Remember our ico price is $0.5"
I noticed that most airdrop and bounty hunters don't bother to know what the ico price was all they need is making something out of it.
What do you think guys?
If bounty hunters/airdrops are going to dump their tokens i think it would not affect the price of such ICO because in the first place bounty allocation is so small and if they sell that at low value then somebody would buy it until it is depleted. Investors/team got the bulk of the supply so they have the capability of changing the price of tokens, that is my thinking.
You're definitely right and I also believe that's one of the strategy some token or coin owners ought to apply. Besides, listing of new token or coin on one good exchange site is better than two or more exchange listing, due to my research cause I have a lot of new listed token on CMC which were listed on a good single exchange site and they were doing good.

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September 01, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
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This is a big difference in price, for one reason, because interest in crypto-currencies today is not as big as it wants, because bitcoin does not grow in price, it's obvious things that the forum participants understand today.
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September 01, 2018, 01:27:34 PM
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Not only that
Obviously bounty hunters never have enough tokens to dump or destabilize the price of a project
Mostly it’s done by investors, the early investors because they buy cheap with huge bonus which makes it convenient for them to dump ridiculously
I agree with you. Bounty hunters make up only 1-2% of the tokens. So they can not be dumping, dumping comes from investors who do not want to stick with that project and those who are criticized are the bounty hunters.

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September 01, 2018, 01:31:28 PM
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I saw since last year lot of ICOs come to exchange but there listing price dumping more than ico or Pre sale prices. So iam still not yet invested thats ICO's.

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September 01, 2018, 02:06:28 PM
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Recently, there was a trend that many projects after entering the exchange received a sharp drop in the price of their token. But it seems to me that this trend will not last long. This was all due to the fact that recently there was a bear market.
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September 01, 2018, 02:14:03 PM
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I think every project done with their ico and listing on exchanges need to remember the holders the last stage price of their ice.
I observed that most investors complain about airdrop and bounty hunters, that they're the ones who dump the price always.
I think when the project team are about to announce the listing of their project on a particular exchange, if on twitter and Telegram they should attach a sentence like "Remember our ico price is $0.5"
I noticed that most airdrop and bounty hunters don't bother to know what the ico price was all they need is making something out of it.
What do you think guys?
I think it's not effective to avoid dump but it doesn't hurt to try, dump is not a mistake from bounty hunters or investors but it is a consequence for ICO projects that can't convince their community to hold their tokens, it's not easy but in fact there are many projects that can establish good relations with their communities and their tokens are not dumped when have debuted on the exchange

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September 01, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
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Actually i don not think the problem here is the airdrop and bounty hunters. The main issue here is ICO's being truthful, Today they say that ICO price is $0.4 and later they list x2 below the promised ICO price. As for the bounty hunter. a hunter is one who works for a project by promoting it and expect his or her reward. and this reward depends on the ICO price
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September 01, 2018, 02:35:48 PM
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There is a fact that the two prices are determined in a very different situation. Of course, quality projects are more profitable, but if you need to talk about price determination, there are two fixed prices for each project. The ICO price is unfortunately not determined by the supply-demand balance, which is the price determined by the project team at the end of the ICO. But the listing price on the stock exchange does not come up this way and therefore we face both positive and negative prices. When ICO projects begin trading on the stock market, this time the price is completely determined by supply-demand balance and transaction volume. So this time, not the project team, the investor has determined the price. Although the real market is operating in this way, ICO projects are a must.
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September 01, 2018, 02:37:20 PM
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If the project is really profitable and good this would not be a problem. Bounty hunters hold only the smallest percentage in the whole pool. If a project dumps with small movement then maybe it is not yet ready to be traded.

Should have locked the token to protect investors and even holders like hunters. (I mean they will be forced to hold because it is locked)
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September 04, 2018, 05:16:08 PM
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Do you really think bounty hunters care about what the ICO price was? They know that if they don't sell out quick, some other bounty hunter will come along and sell their tokens for less. This mentality leads to hundreds of bounty hunters dumping their tokens lower than the previous guy. If there isn't enough market demand to soak those tokens up, this lead to the market crashing.

The best way to fix this is to lock bounty payments for 6 months to a year, or release them gradually so there's a consistent flow to exchanges.
That is never going to work, it seems that you forgot that most icos disappear after just a few months or a year, a bounty hunter that knows that information is never going to promote an ico that forces him to hold his coins for a year, so an ico trying to implement such a system will simply fail since they will never find enough people to promote it while all the icos that do not implement that strategy get all the promotion.
That's right and the big problem the majority of them didn't even know about that and they are blindly blaming the bounty hunters. Basically the result of the ico will based on the demand. these guys never try to realized that it will be so difficult to attract these investors and speculators.
It seems that people in this forum do not understand what cryptocurrencies are about, this is about the free market we do not want a third party telling us how to use or to spend our coins so any system that relies on that to try to avoid that the price of their coins to go down is simply going to fail, we must let the free market to decide what is the value of a coin and if that value is zero then you need accept that.
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September 04, 2018, 05:20:48 PM
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Tokens are released to the stock exchanges at a fixed price, which was at the ICO. After all, users themselves artificially create demand, which entails a decrease or increase in price. The project does not have the authority to fix a fixed price on the exchange.
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September 04, 2018, 05:24:31 PM
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2018 has been an year of low price which caused ICO price stay either stable or below its price. Too much lose to the investors.
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September 04, 2018, 05:26:26 PM
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They dont care about it because they are anyways in the profits because they have gotten the tokens from the bounties as part of reward system. If they are calling themselves bounty hunters then they surely get themselves involved into various bounties at the same time and thus they just care about how much money they are getting from it each time. Even with small amount of money they have gotten they will just go on selling as they have chance to grab these small amounts from huge number of different bounties that they are entering into.  Cheesy

 
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September 04, 2018, 05:30:29 PM
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If the bounty has a fixed predetermined percentage for the bounty and the project does not sell so many tokens and therefore this percentage is impacting the total number of tokens sold, we can find ourselves in a situation in which the bounty hunters actually can affect the market for the coin, but this is difficult to come by often when you reach the soft cap and the number of tokens for the hunters is too high, this number is reduced drastically to avoid the dump.
But this rarely happens, the initial dump is usually done by the whales that they buy with a big initial bonus, careless of the project for pure profit and selling soon after when coin hit exchange.

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September 04, 2018, 05:49:20 PM
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Almost half of the projects who started an Initial Coin Offering (ICO) didn’t have any development work done prior to the fundraising event, research shows. The majority of projects which got listed on a cryptocurrency exchange traded below the ICO price. I think the listing price most time goes lower than ico price
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September 04, 2018, 05:52:15 PM
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It's annoying when all the bounty hunters go on telegram and keep asking when it will list on an exchange, don't see much asking about the ICO price, those are the ones that will dump at any price. Hard to avoid those guys, i think they are the social media bounties who apply for everything

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September 04, 2018, 05:53:12 PM
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the price after ico naturally goes down. growth is worth waiting for after those who bought on pre-sale

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