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December 11, 2018, 11:54:35 PM |
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Well there is saying: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! So based what this fork did to btc and all market, and we survived, we should hope that btc is gonna get out of all this stronger than ever!
It looks like the story about bitcoin cash will be ended asap consider about that guy roger ver was realizing if that was hurting his portfolios too. That guy should learn a lot from this case and that's it.
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December 12, 2018, 11:08:13 PM |
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Well there is saying: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! So based what this fork did to btc and all market, and we survived, we should hope that btc is gonna get out of all this stronger than ever!
It looks like the story about bitcoin cash will be ended asap consider about that guy roger ver was realizing if that was hurting his portfolios too. That guy should learn a lot from this case and that's it. They probably thought that this fork would have similar effects like bch fork on august 2017, everyone predicted apocalypse then and we had biggest bull run in history! But we got hit just opposite of that! They are greedy power hungry individuals, no matter what altruistic messages they send!
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December 12, 2018, 11:40:53 PM |
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One element that affect Bitcoin's price is the war with these bitcoin cash. I don't know who will win this war.
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December 12, 2018, 11:42:48 PM |
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these are two identical coins and I see no point in separating them. it seems to me that it is meaningless
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December 12, 2018, 11:45:32 PM |
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Hilarious really. After spending months trying to trick newbies in to buying BCH by calling themselves "the real Bitcoin", turns out they weren't sure all along, and so will now have to fork their fork to create "the real Bitcoin". And while their silly civil war goes on, BTC continues to grow, develop and dominate the market.
I know which one I'll be sticking to.
I know before time that it will later comes to this as this is not a surprise to me, Let's keep watching and see how things will unfold in the future for these coins, for me bitcoin will always come on top in the end.
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December 12, 2018, 11:47:04 PM |
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Bitcoin Cash has the edge between the two. BTC cash has already made its wallet exchange in the Philippines while Bitcoin SV doesn't have any yet. That indication shows the difference between the two coin. Don't get me wrong, both of them are worth holding but the other one is just a bit better since it offers a service that is much really needed in our country.
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December 13, 2018, 01:00:26 AM |
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the bitcoincash community broke because of the hardfork bch, is this hf very important to do? and this has a profound impact on the price of BTTC, which then has an impact on the price of the altcoin on the market
Exactly. Bitcoin Cash's community has teared apart right after the recent hard fork. If everything was thought out smoothly with ABC implementing replay protection, then none of this mess would've happened. However, because both Craig and Roger become too stubborn to protect their chains (starting a hash war), people have lost confidence in both BCH and BSV. Not to mention, ABC had implemented centralized checkpoints which defeat the true purpose of a blockchain (which is to eliminate the middleman). On the other hand, BSV with its huge block sizes would eventually become extremely centralized if they become filled to the max. Which is why, I believe that Bitcoin (BTC) will prevail in the long term, since it's the only cryptocurrency with a decentralized approach towards scalability. Of course, many have criticized LN, but compared with other scaling solutions (like block size increase), it's the most decentralized. In the meantime, both BCH and BSV's value combined is much lower than it was before the hard fork. I doubt that these cryptocurrencies would get anywhere especially after they've lost confidence from people in the mainstream world. But only time will tell us what will really happen with the future of BCH. Just my opinion ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 13, 2018, 01:04:19 AM |
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Of course, roger beliefs will not allow competitors to get ahead of their project and in particular its project will come first
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December 14, 2018, 12:42:28 AM |
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Of course, roger beliefs will not allow competitors to get ahead of their project and in particular its project will come first
Exactly. This shows how centralized BCH really is. A single entity or individual is responsible for the future direction of the BCH blockchain (which is Roger). On the other hand, Craig Wright along with Calvin Ayre, have a huge influence on the Bitcoin SV blockchain. Such cryptocurrencies will not go farther, as people realize how centralized they are. They would essentially become Ripple 2.0 with their rapidly-increasing block sizes affecting decentralization (as costs would be higher to run a full node). Nonetheless, what matters most is that Bitcoin is still alive and leading the way among the large number of cryptocurrencies on the market. No matter what it's said, Bitcoin (BTC) is still the original Bitcoin. SegWit and LN was only needed to help address scalability issues and transaction malleability. Compared with block size increases, it's the most decentralized approach yet. Just my thoughts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 14, 2018, 01:24:14 AM |
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I prefer bitcoin SV than bitcoin Cash, the performance of the bitcoin SV is certainly surprising, when the market is in a negative trend, bitcoin SV continues to improve and is now in the top 10 in coinmarketcap, and I'm happy to have a little balance and of course I hope the market will recover soon and making bitcoin SV continue to skyrocket.
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December 14, 2018, 12:53:10 PM |
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Yes these currencies are only for the use of traders that they do trade with them and are earning money. Some may adopt them for their businesses for giving support to these coins but in the long term it may not survive and Bitcoin will be the one coin which will be accepted globally.
Although Bitcoin SV has shown a great growth, and it is in the top-10 now, I remember that Bitcoin will be always the best cryptocurrency. I will work with it and not with the forks as I trust BTC always.
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December 15, 2018, 02:53:49 AM |
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Although Bitcoin SV has shown a great growth, and it is in the top-10 now, I remember that Bitcoin will be always the best cryptocurrency. I will work with it and not with the forks as I trust BTC always.
Bitcoin SV may have grown in price within the short term, but it could easily fail in the long term if it doesn't provide the world with real uses. This fork off the BCH blockchain, seems to be relatively unstable as it suffered a blockchain reorganization during the "Hash War". It's yet to be seen whenever the development team working on BSV strives for quality instead of quantity. Increasing the block size to 128mb is nothing if the cryptocurrency has issues in terms of stability and resiliency. On the other hand, Bitcoin (BTC) is a reliable cryptocurrency which it's the most secure to date. The development team working on Bitcoin aims for quality in every way possible. That's why they've been careful when adopting scalable solutions for the BTC blockchain, as they don't want to mess with it in any way. The Lightning Network is believed that will scale Bitcoin safely as it helps maintain the cryptocurrency decentralized. Being a Layer-two solution, it won't have any negative impact on Bitcoin's main chain whatsoever. In case it fails, people could switch back to the main chain as usual. Nonetheless, only time will tell us whenever both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV will survive or die. Just my opinion ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 15, 2018, 04:35:57 AM |
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Bitcoin cash and bitcoin sv, these two coins are almost similar, but I do not know the advantages of what these two coins have, in my opinion bitcoin is better than any coin, and of course bitcoin is more widely known and remains the top coin crypto
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December 15, 2018, 06:53:24 AM |
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Bitcoin SV may have grown in price within the short term, but it could easily fail in the long term if it doesn't provide the world with real uses.
fork coins can never become successful in the long run because they can not offer any real usages. it is simply due to the fact that they are mere copies of the original project which is doing everything they do in a much safer manner. also keep in mind that they are going to be competing with a lot of altcoins that offer better usability than them.
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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December 15, 2018, 08:03:06 AM |
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They are really two big jokes. The internal split caused the two coins to sharply depreciate. Now, BCH and bchsv are not friendly to their investors. In the future, people will not choose to buy bch, bchsv is more willing to buy bitcoin. I think they have lost their future.
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fork coins can never become successful in the long run because they can not offer any real usages. it is simply due to the fact that they are mere copies of the original project which is doing everything they do in a much safer manner. also keep in mind that they are going to be competing with a lot of altcoins that offer better usability than them.
Agree. Most forked coins are copies of the original Bitcoin blockchain with some minor modifications. They don't provide something unique that's innovative from the rest of the cryptocurrencies on the market. As such, people would see no reason investing into these coins, as they merely serve the same purpose as Bitcoin. Of course, Bitcoin Cash has been claiming to be the true Bitcoin for a long time. On the other hand, Bitcoin SV claims to be the original Bitcoin. But at the end of the day, none would be able to provide the level of adoption, development, and support, Bitcoin has been giving to the world for a long time. Comparing BCH and BSV vs Bitcoin, they're highly centralized and relatively unstable. Bitcoin has far more security and reliability than both BCH and BSV combined, not to mention that it's decentralized, and no single entity oversees the future direction of the cryptocurrency. BCH has Roger Ver and Jihan Wu on its side, while BSV has Craig Wright and Calvin Ayre on its side. On the other hand, Bitcoin has no public figure, and everyone is on its side. There's never been a "Hash War", neither dangerous block size increases that would compromise the whole blockchain. Which is why, I believe that Bitcoin would succeed in the end with its Lightning Network. It's the most decentralized approach yet for scaling (although not completely decentralized) that would enable anyone in the world to process transactions without requiring a high degree of storage and bandwidth for full nodes (unlike increasing the block size). The main chain could operate the same way as it is right now, while the LN (being a Layer-two solution) would take care of micropayments in an easier way. Nonetheless, what the future holds for both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV is quite uncertain. For what I know, BCH and BSV's price combined is lesser than BCH's price prior to the hard fork on Nov 15th. That has a lot to say, as it could mean that investors have lost confidence in BCH and BSV. Just my thoughts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 28, 2018, 05:49:50 PM |
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Cryptocurrency this days is just overrun with worthless greedy money whores. Only care about get rich quick. Hard core Bitcoiners, Satoshis implementation (Bitcoin SV) price is secondly, it will still be around long after everything else is gone. Chines miners version ABC, future is uncertain. In my opinion i will outlive it.
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December 28, 2018, 06:06:49 PM |
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Cryptocurrency this days is just overrun with worthless greedy money whores. Only care about get rich quick. Hard core Bitcoiners, Satoshis implementation (Bitcoin SV) price is secondly, it will still be around long after everything else is gone. Chines miners version ABC, future is uncertain. In my opinion i will outlive it.
Cryptocurrencies are also worthy investment so those are not believe the crypto potential they only loose the hope in crypto investment. Bitcoin cash hard fork is completely change the market so Bitcoin SV is similar than Bitcoin cash but only drawback is little lower demand in these days it is affect the market cap. May be crypto will going to moon in 2019 or 2020 then only all are understand the potential of cryptocurrency.
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December 28, 2018, 06:38:57 PM |
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Cryptocurrency this days is just overrun with worthless greedy money whores. Only care about get rich quick. Hard core Bitcoiners, Satoshis implementation (Bitcoin SV) price is secondly, it will still be around long after everything else is gone. Chines miners version ABC, future is uncertain. In my opinion i will outlive it.
today, Bitcoin and its counterparts are no longer relevant, and leading players in the cryptocurrency market are talking about this. the information space is filled with negative news regarding Bitcoin cache and other altcoin.
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