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September 02, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
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EDIT :
Since LoyceV and Bill gator believe adiebitlser isn't connected with other mentioned accounts, i will remove @adiebitsler from my accusation.


I think adiebitsler should get the benefit of the doubt. It's impossible to prove he doesn't own the other accounts, while it's a fact that account farmers or just spam bots copy data from other users.
Anyone can post a Bitcoin address that I own. That doesn't mean they are me though.

I am in the same boat as Loyce, without further evidence linking the accounts I would have to assume that adiebitsler is in fact an innocent user getting caught up in nonsense. You cannot prove a negative, so there either needs to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt connecting the two identities or we cannot assume they are connected.

Hello there, i've found 3 2 connected accounts and 1 of them got caught plagiarism. Will their other account get ban as well?

3 2 Accounts Connected:
adiebitsler, Idirben, hmarra

Proof:

adiebitsler and idirben are connected

#Proof of ownership
USERNAME TELEGRAM: @adiebitsler
ETH ERC20 WALLET: 0xf87e1f06097be4f5a426394b8bfd57d022d8e80a
http://archive.is/7Hsey

joined:

Ethereum adress: 0xf87e1f06097be4f5a426394b8bfd57d022d8e80a
Twitter username : @Suryadi_crypto
Telegram username: @adiebitsler
http://archive.is/KDqv6[/s]

idirben and hmarra are connected
#Proof of authentication

Twitter Campaign
Twitter username: @AgulMoh
Twitter url: https://twitter.com/AgulMoh
Followers: 1138

Facebook Campaign
profile link facebook: https://www.facebook.com/idir.benelhadj
Friends: 4550

Telegram username:  @idirben


#Proof of Authentication

Video Campaign
Youtube channel link : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyRqLUatlHzSD6_B17OiKlw
Subscribers : 1155

Telegram username:  @idirben
http://archive.is/ddumn

Related Addresses:
Code:
0xf87e1f06097be4f5a426394b8bfd57d022d8e80a

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idirben got caught plagiarism. How about ban their other accounts as well?

Proof idirben plagiarism....
http://archive.is/3Pxf8
COPY:

Dozens of new cryptocurrencies launch each month, and alongside these new tokens and coins comes a series of initial coin offerings (ICOs). The appetite among a broad pool of investors for these opportunities has grown, even in spite of the fact that cryptocurrencies have been battered in 2018. All of these factors combine to entice scammers. After all, if investors have proven that they are willing to throw money toward a highly speculative cryptocurrency, they seem to be equally likely to invest in fraudulent tokens or ICOs.

For the cryptocurrency investor looking to make the most of the host of new investment opportunities while remaining safe from fraudulent ICOs and sketchy coins and tokens, the prospect can be daunting. Blockchain and cryptocurrency technology is developing at a rapid pace, and even experienced investors may find it hard to keep up with the terminology. While there's no guarantee that any cryptocurrency or blockchain-related startup will be legitimate or successful, the steps outlined below can help you to be as sure as possible that you're not falling for a scam.


Perhaps the single most important success factor for any ICO or cryptocurrency is the developers and administrative team behind the project. The cryptocurrency space is dominated by major names, with superstar developers like Ethereum founder Vitalik Buterin capable of making or breaking new projects simply by having their names listed on a development team. For that reason, it's increasingly common for scammers to invent fake founders and biographies for their projects.

The best protection against this fraudulent tactic is to thoroughly research the individual team members of a project before you invest. It's a bad sign, for example, if you're unable to find any information about a particular developer or founder on LinkedIn or other social media outlets. Even if profiles do exist, check to see if their activity seems to match up with the number of followers and likes they accrue. Individuals who rarely engage with their followers and yet have thousands of fans may not be real.

Beyond determining whether the development team is real, it's important to make an effort to see if their qualifications measure up. Do the founders have the experience they claim to have? Is it relevant to the current project at hand?


A cryptocurrency or ICO whitepaper is the foundational document for that project. The whitepaper should lay out the background, goals, strategy, concerns, and timeline for implementation for any blockchain-related project. Whitepapers can be incredibly revealing: companies that have a flashy website may reveal they lack a fundamentally sound concept. On the other hand, a company with a website containing spelling errors may have a whitepaper that indicates a rock-solid concept and a carefully conceived implementation plan.

The first step toward analyzing a whitepaper is to read it very thoroughly. Check to see if the whitepaper has complementary resources as well, including financial models, legal concerns, SWOT analysis, and a roadmap for implementation.

Companies that don't offer whitepapers should be avoided at all costs. Still, it's possible for a fraudulent company to put forward a convincing whitepaper, as was the case with PlexCoin; this company managed to raise over $15 million before the U.S Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) stepped in to shut it down. A whitepaper should answer all of the questions a potential investor might have about what sets this particular project apart from its competitors, how it aims to be successful, and the measures it will take to achieve its goals.


Any ICO will depend upon a token or currency system in order to facilitate the crowdfunding process. Legitimate companies and endeavors make the system itself and the progress of the token sale easy for potential investors to view. Look for the token sale figures as the ICO is ongoing. Better yet, watch the token sale over time to see how it is progressing. If a company makes it difficult for anyone to chart the progress of its ICO, this is a major red flag. Some scam ICOs will hide their token sale progress under the pretense of individual contribution addresses; this prevents potential investors from seeing exactly how much has been raised and how much time remains in the sale. In some cases, this might be an effort to generate a sense of urgency among potential investors, even if there isn't evidence of a successful sale going on at the same time.


While it may seem obvious, ICOs and cryptocurrencies with the greatest chances for success are those that have the fundamental structure to outlast their competitors. Many launches, even highly-publicized ones, have sputtered after initial interest faded. Your best chance of a successful investment relies on a company having an achievable, feasible set of aims. The company should have a compelling concept for the time being, but it also must be able to carry that concept over into execution over the short and long terms alike.

Going along with the question of feasibility is the issue of transparency. Companies that have outstanding concepts and models are more likely than others to want to be as transparent as possible with the broader community. Look for companies that aim to keep potential investors up to date with regular, detailed progress reports on a company website or on social media. It's also useful to look if a company has a timeline for what has taken place in the development process as well.

Even the most successful ICOs and cryptocurrencies are slammed for being fueled by speculative investing. The idea of getting rich quick on an investment in a hot new project is tempting enough to draw seasoned investors and beginners into risky areas. Keep an eye toward caution as you look for new investment opportunities in the ICO and cryptocurrency spaces. Be aware that projects sounding too good to be true likely are. Spend time scrutinizing every detail, and assume that the absence of a piece of crucial information may be an attempt to hide an unsound model or concept. Look for outside sources to verify the legitimacy of any project before making an investment, and always ask questions that you can't already find the answers to. The cryptocurrency and ICO spaces offer tremendous opportunity for investors who have done their homework and are able to make sound investment decisions. They also feature pitfalls which can lead to large amounts of money being lost due to scams, frauds or even legitimate businesses which are simply poorly designed and unlikely to succeed.



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Dozens of new cryptocurrencies launch each month, and alongside these new tokens and coins comes a series of initial coin offerings (ICOs). The appetite among a broad pool of investors for these opportunities has grown, even in spite of the fact that cryptocurrencies have been battered in 2018. All of these factors combine to entice scammers. After all, if investors have proven that they are willing to throw money toward a highly speculative cryptocurrency, they seem to be equally likely to invest in fraudulent tokens or ICOs.
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I won't qoute all original post because it will make this post too long. You can read full article through link on above.

Convince at least 2 DT members/ 2 high trusted user (Trust score > 50) if you aren't alt. Then, make a thread on Reputation thread and provide all proofs they believe your words.
Then, i will gladly remove your name from my accusation.
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September 02, 2018, 11:00:11 AM
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Nice find.
You should probably post this in this thread by following the given format there. That thread is for alts of everyone that are caught and I think there are DT members involved in that thread who would negative tag these accounts.
About plagiarism, you should have reported that to a moderator and it would get what it deserves for that.

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September 02, 2018, 11:03:50 AM
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The right order is to report plagiarism, that gives a ban. Next, if the alt accounts keep posting, report them for ban evasion, which deserves a ban too.

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September 02, 2018, 11:09:36 AM
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The right order is to report plagiarism, that gives a ban. Next, if the alt accounts keep posting, report them for ban evasion, which deserves a ban too.
I wanna ask, do you consider it plagiarism if a thread like copied and pasted phrases from an article even the poster put the sources below?

Example this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4628035.msg41810553#msg41810553

I've checked the sources and the poster copied and pasted almost all of the content of that thread and a user named Welsh gave 10 merits to this post....

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September 02, 2018, 01:52:14 PM
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I wanna ask, do you consider it plagiarism if a thread like copied and pasted phrases in a article even the poster put the sources below?
Example this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4628035.msg41810553#msg41810553

I've checked the sources and the poster copied and pasted almost all of the content of that thread and a user named Welsh gave 10 merits to this post....

Welsh is a merit source and staff. Poster had added all the source link bottom of post. So it will not consider a plagiarism. If you added reference/ source link you can copy a part from there, if there is no restriction from your source.

33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

User didn't pass his own, because he has added all reference link.

Kindly move your thread on Reputation board from lower left. It's not belongs to Meta.

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September 02, 2018, 02:32:47 PM
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Well for this case

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I wanna ask, do you consider it plagiarism if a thread like copied and pasted phrases in a article even the poster put the sources below?

Example this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4628035.msg41810553#msg41810553

I've checked the sources and the poster copied and pasted almost all of the content of that thread and a user named Welsh gave 10 merits to this post....

I think it is not considered as a plagiarism because he put sources there in the last part of the OP. Although it is not a plagiarism, i think it is not appropriate to solely just make a paraphrased thread and then not mentioning anything about it is a thread which he made base on other people works. In my opinion, it would be great if he made a statement like " This thread is made compiling data from some sources" etc.

Well it is just my opinion though, and that guy did not do anything wrong.


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September 02, 2018, 03:28:25 PM
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I wanna ask, do you consider it plagiarism if a thread like copied and pasted phrases in a article even the poster put the sources below?

Example this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4628035.msg41810553#msg41810553

I've checked the sources and the poster copied and pasted almost all of the content of that thread and a user named Welsh gave 10 merits to this post....
I think* it's plagiarism. If it's something you can't get away with in university, you shouldn't get away with it on this forum.
Showing sources serves two purposes: giving credit, and making statements verifiable. What he did in that thread is just opy/pasting text from different sources together into an incoherent post.
Each citation should have it's individual source link, and it shouldn't be literally copied. I don't think this text would require 9 different sources if it wouldn't be copy/pasted together.
I'm pretty sure it's only meant to earn Merit.

*Since this is a debated case, and open to interpretation, I won't report it as plagiarism.

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September 02, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
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It seem to see that in this forum mod bad only foror plagiarism (not considering boumping, managering and airdrops) so even if it is proven that the accounts are connected, I think the only way is to report every single account (if you can find it) for plagiarism


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September 02, 2018, 06:12:50 PM
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Connections with this address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg43776903#msg43776903
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OK, what am I missing here?  Where is the source included in this post?  That looks totally plagiarized, since I don't see any citation there.

Idirben hasn't been active since July.  Has he already been banned?


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September 02, 2018, 06:36:02 PM
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Kindly move your thread on Reputation board from lower left. It's not belongs to Meta.
I think I have seen plagiarism issues on meta section. Never seen any of them in Reputation yet. So, I am hoping it's on the right board.

OK, what am I missing here?  Where is the source included in this post[/url]?  That looks totally plagiarized, since I don't see any citation there.
I do not see any yet. So, to me it also plagiarism.


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Idirben hasn't been active since July.  Has he already been banned?
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September 02, 2018, 06:49:33 PM
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If you find an account like this in one wallet, that means they have enriched themselves, this is one example in this forum, I need to remember that I think there are also many who use accounts as a form of fraud.
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September 02, 2018, 07:34:17 PM
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Why ban all three? Multiple accounts is not exactly against the rules, although it's frowned upon.
Only the account caught should be banned, IMO
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September 02, 2018, 08:25:57 PM
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Why ban all three? Multiple accounts is not exactly against the rules, although it's frowned upon.
Only the account caught should be banned, IMO

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

Although this rule is for after the ban when they create another account. In these case the use already have his alts. Perhaps a call from the community will be interesting.

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Ok, seems like we have our answer. All three can be banned if one is banned.


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September 03, 2018, 01:44:32 AM
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Hello there, i've found 3 connected accounts and 1 of them got caught plagiarism. Will their other account get ban as well?

3 Accounts Connected:
adiebitsler, Idirben, hmarra

Proof:

adiebitsler and idirben are connected

#Proof of ownership
USERNAME TELEGRAM: @adiebitsler
ETH ERC20 WALLET: 0xf87e1f06097be4f5a426394b8bfd57d022d8e80a
http://archive.is/7Hsey

joined:

Ethereum adress: 0xf87e1f06097be4f5a426394b8bfd57d022d8e80a
Twitter username : @Suryadi_crypto
Telegram username: @adiebitsler
http://archive.is/KDqv6

dear cheater detector

a newbie named Idirben is someone who imitates my post, and now I am disadvantaged as an old user.

I can prove that I am the original owner of the social media account, as well as my phone's telegram.

check the ip again, I never know what else to connect with both of them,
I also never made tread based on the project plan.

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September 03, 2018, 02:06:10 AM
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If that is the case adiebitsler, then can you help me understand why this person would put your address as the address where they would like to receive payment?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3481499.0;all
https://archive.fo/Zwwm1

Post #5 and #43.

Why ban all three?

Ban-Evasion is against the rules. If you are banned on an account and continue to use the forum on another account, this is precisely the definition of Ban-Evasion.

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September 03, 2018, 02:25:01 AM
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If that is the case adiebitsler, then can you help me understand why this person would put your address as the address where they would like to receive payment?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3481499.0;all
https://archive.fo/Zwwm1

Post #5 and #43.
 

I don't understand what he is aiming for.
Idirben is very newbie, you can see his initial post history, all copy and paste results.
now I am the loser, if I connect with them do you think I'm a very beginner.

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September 03, 2018, 02:33:21 AM
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So what you are saying is that the following is your information?
Code:
Ethereum adress: 0xf87e1f06097be4f5a426394b8bfd57d022d8e80a
Twitter username : @Suryadi_crypto
Telegram username: @adiebitsler
and that neither Idirben or hmarra is an account you have access to? Is that correct?



I am wondering if there is any evidence of hmarra using this address, or Idirben signing this address. Is there any evidence of Idirben receiving payment to this address? I did a quick search personally and didn't come up with anything. I am also terrible at using forum search, though.
Could it just be more plagiarism or do we have something to suggest more?

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September 03, 2018, 02:47:08 AM
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So what you are saying is that the following is your information?
Code:
Ethereum adress: 0xf87e1f06097be4f5a426394b8bfd57d022d8e80a
Twitter username : @Suryadi_crypto
Telegram username: @adiebitsler
and that neither Idirben or hmarra is an account you have access to? Is that correct?



I am wondering if there is any evidence of hmarra using this address, or Idirben signing this address. Is there any evidence of Idirben receiving payment to this address? I did a quick search personally and didn't come up with anything. I am also terrible at using forum search, though.
Could it just be more plagiarism or do we have something to suggest more?

how can I access their account while I don't know anything about them. . . I also read the new forum rules since December last year.
I can prove that it belongs to me personally.
I think there is never a payment they entered at that address, I can confirm.
the one who entered the wallet was the result of my work.



I think I have told you that I never knew Hmarra, let alone payment into my wallet might not exist.
I feel right, therefore I confirm this reputation.

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