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October 27, 2011, 12:55:04 AM
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October 27, 2011, 02:34:07 AM
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I sincerely encourage this.

I hope you guys can come up with an effective, open-source, decentralized way to fix the 51% problem. 
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October 27, 2011, 03:38:10 AM
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Can we have a centralized GUI for all the coins so that it will be easier to maintain?  Maybe incorporate mining features into the GUI as well.
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October 27, 2011, 05:55:22 AM
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I don't have those awesome skills that those on your list have.  But if you need any beta miner.  I volunteer to be one Smiley
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October 27, 2011, 06:05:24 AM
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I don't have those awesome skills that those on your list have.  But if you need any beta miner.  I volunteer to be one Smiley

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October 27, 2011, 06:17:21 AM
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Do you want to start another altchain which doesn't make anymore progress after launch? ALL altchains besides SC2 stopped improving after initial launch, that happens if you don't have a good passionate developer and some good marketing plans. What should be different in this new chain?

I think this will end like all the other mine&dump altcoins, if it really manages to evolve after the idea phase.

The plan is quite clear:
1. Find others to do the hard work for you
2. Launch and praise it as THE NEW ONE AND ONLY BETTER chain (because you are in it)
3. Mine
4. No more improvements
5. Price stagnates
6. Dump
7. Profit
8. Price falls
9. Chain is going to die
10. People who made you profit have lost some valuable coins

And the name lol, thx for promoting SolidCoin, but maybe you should better call it SolidCoinLite  Grin

You have tried this before with TBX and GG, and now look where it is going.

LTC was the most promising altchain, why not helping improve it further? Maybe because you can profit more if you can mine at the chain beginning?

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October 27, 2011, 06:22:34 AM
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LTC is still the most promising for CPU.  The IXcoin/I0Coin/SC1 seems to be different in the sense that it cater to the GPU aspects.
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October 27, 2011, 06:28:56 AM
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LTC is still the most promising for CPU.  The IXcoin/I0Coin/SC1 seems to be different in the sense that it cater to the GPU aspects.

Yeah they should help to improve LTC, it's already there and has good intentions, why reinvent the wheel? Because BitcoinEXpress has 70GH/s of GPUs sitting under his ass and some million of IXC/I0C to dump after exchange reopening...
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October 27, 2011, 06:32:52 AM
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Would it be even better if you can mine LTC with your CPU and the GPU intensive coins such as IXcoin/I0Coin/SC1 together?  Sure I support LTC to be developed.  But it would also be advantageous if we can mine the GPU coins together. Bitcoins are now at less than $3, some multi-tasking mining with existing equipment will certainly be welcome news to miners.
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October 27, 2011, 06:42:55 AM
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ATTENTION: This isn't a thread to fight about Solidcoin, Please stay on the topic of developing the project
Please ignore the Solidcoin people when they try and distract.


SolidcoinPro is the result of a number of us talking about bringing IXC and I0C back to life. It was suggested that we find a way to merge mine SC1 with IXC or I0C and make it a direct competitor to Solidcoin 2.0.

Nasakioto - If you want to be a part of this fix your broken chain and keep in touch.

Lolcust - Ideas? All help appreciated, any ideas for TBX or GG merge mine?

ArtForz - You are hereby conscripted as the lead dev, please report for duty

Magnet, SAC, DeathandTaxes, JohnJ, Coblee, TacoTime, BitterTea, and ANYONE else with ideas you think will help please respond.

SC1 is still very much alive and still going. Somewhere there is a derelict farm still chugging along on Difficulty 8404 I think with about 12 GH /s. I would like to see a SC1/IXC or SC1/I0C merge mine or if possible an SC1/IXC/I0C three way merge mine with a CPU version of maybe FBX or TBX brought in.

Lets work on the basics.

1) Primary Chain and Secondary Chain in the merge mine have different properties and innovations.

2) No Premine

3) Open Source on All Levels

4) Find a way to invalidate all the premine on SC1 or start a new Genesis Block. I really want to retain the SC1 as much as possible in its form. I would love nothing more than to take open source SC1 and make it better, more widely accepted and more traded than SC2.

I have registered the name http://www.SolidCoinPro.info, just waiting on it to resolve.

Litecoin has already proven, if we build a solid open platform with innovation, services like pools, exchanges and vendors will come. We can do this if we all work together.

Ideas, comments?

Just wondering; why bring them back to life ? Is that because you are holding a lot of ix/io/sc1.0 coins ? Or is there another reason ? (seriously just wondering, I'd think enough is enough; we have LTC, we have BTC, the SC taliban has SC2.0...)

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October 27, 2011, 07:00:15 AM
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ArtForz - You are hereby conscripted as the lead dev, please report for duty

I LOL'ed...  Roll Eyes

Lets get some morons to work for me while i dump all my useless coins
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October 27, 2011, 07:36:33 AM
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I think LTC has taken the spot of what SC 1.0 could have been - the 'silver' to bitcoins 'gold'.

If the goal is to just piss of CH, sc 1.0 + merged mining.  But that effort would kinda be for nothing, as I don't think any vendors are going to take it seriously.

If the goal is innovation I think ya'll could do some great things, but the goals should be crazy things like GG did - just new ideas to test the limits of what can be done.

But please stop trying to get all these *coin experiments on exchanges until you settle on something you genuinely think is -worth- being exchanged.


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October 27, 2011, 08:36:00 AM
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Will this...reset the ixcoin chain? So i know if i should stop mining like right now?

Also, TBX is CPU-based with a completely different algo, GG is GPU-based.

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October 27, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
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Hey.
Were you or ArtForz messing with i0coins blockchain yesterday?
My payouts  sent to some miners are missed in action. They are confinmed in pool's wallet but user didn't get them.
There is also no trace of them in http://blockexplorer.sytes.net

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October 27, 2011, 10:58:02 AM
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@BCX

Hey.
Were you or ArtForz messing with i0coins blockchain yesterday?
My payouts  sent to some miners are missed in action. They are confinmed in pool's wallet but user didn't get them.
There is also no trace of them in http://blockexplorer.sytes.net


Everyone with +4Ghash/s can mess up i0coin at the moment.
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October 27, 2011, 11:09:41 AM
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I think Nasakioto was writing about the time warp bug and having you fix that.   I think he is working on fixing this already.

I think iocoin has already been near dead a couple times.

SC1 was already used in SC2.

As you know I am a deflationist and would like to see a massive experiment on deflation.  I would not even mine to see 20% transaction tax with 5% going to miners and 15% deleted.   I think ioccoin with merged mining would be awesome for this.
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October 27, 2011, 02:40:37 PM
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Didn't you already make wild claims about SC1 continuing once?


For the first time, I actually agree with Spacy:
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The plan is quite clear:
1. Find others to do the hard work for you
2. Launch and praise it as THE NEW ONE AND ONLY BETTER chain (because you are in it)
3. Mine
4. No more improvements
5. Price stagnates
6. Dump
7. Profit
8. Price falls
9. Chain is going to die
10. People who made you profit have lost some valuable coins


If you (BEX) want them to continue, put some work into it.
So far all I have seen is an awful lot of talk and zero code.
Hell, RS has put out more usable code (open source, even) than BEX so far.

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October 27, 2011, 04:31:35 PM
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1) I have about 100,000+ more BTC than he does.

wait... wat?

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October 27, 2011, 05:02:32 PM
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1) I have about 100,000+ more BTC than he does.

wait... wat?

Now you know, why he is spreading FUD for all the alt-chains? Because he wants to protect his main asset...
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October 27, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
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Bragging about BTC is a very stupid idea I tell you.

But since it is you it could as well mean anything, go on with your business.
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October 27, 2011, 05:10:17 PM
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I'm flattered by the name drop, but when I'm not getting drawn into arguments on this forum I've already got a project I'm working on, and I don't have the coding chops for alt client work. Good luck to you.
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October 27, 2011, 11:55:59 PM
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Didn't you already make wild claims about SC1 continuing once?


For the first time, I actually agree with Spacy:
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The plan is quite clear:
1. Find others to do the hard work for you
2. Launch and praise it as THE NEW ONE AND ONLY BETTER chain (because you are in it)
3. Mine
4. No more improvements
5. Price stagnates
6. Dump
7. Profit
8. Price falls
9. Chain is going to die
10. People who made you profit have lost some valuable coins


If you (BEX) want them to continue, put some work into it.
So far all I have seen is an awful lot of talk and zero code.
Hell, RS has put out more usable code (open source, even) than BEX so far.


Why don't you look up a few post and see I disclosed all my previous chain holdings and committed them to bounties. There are some major differences between Coinhunter and I.

1) I have about 100,000+ more BTC than he does.
2) Neither one of us are coders
3) I'm aware of the fact I'm not a coder and can pay people to do it.

In no way am I going to try to say I made it better after it is up, a group project = group success.

I will absolutely commit to not mine in any of the chains, all my rigs have been steady on BTC anyway except for the very brief times I mined IXC, I0C and screwed with the Alt Chains.

I'm interested in the innovation and mining it really means nothing to me.

All you've done is talk, and talk, and talk, and make claims, and never back up even one (1) of those claims despite them being easily backed up, and talk and talk and talk.
RS has at least released a something that may or may not be vaguely sort of successful (depends on what you think his goals are).

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October 28, 2011, 12:10:12 AM
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BCX is full of shit. Always expecting OTHERS to back up his claims. I'm surprised you people took so long to see that.
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October 28, 2011, 02:29:47 AM
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Why should anybody believe you when you say you won't mine?
Like I said, you've said much and proved/backed up absolutely nothing.

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October 28, 2011, 03:06:09 AM
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i'll do it for shit & giggles.

i don't care if he's already mined over9000 million coins.

just for shit & giggles.  Grin

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October 28, 2011, 05:04:40 AM
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I would like to see merged mining on iocoin to protect it and end all the mining rewards except transactions.  Preferably with a 5% tax which is deleted.
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October 28, 2011, 05:47:25 AM
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BCX, if you are serious about this merger, you know that a loose coupling under merge mining isn't really going to fly.
Instead, respawn SC1 with a premined fund that will cover (exactly: no more no less) the outstanding balance of the other coins you integrate (weighted by relative value), and setup a public claim process whereby the holders of I*C will be granted the corresponding amount of SC1 upon provable destruction of their I*C.

More detail in the thread below (was about merging TBX+FBX+LTC originally).
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October 28, 2011, 05:12:26 PM
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BCX, if you are serious about this merger, you know that a loose coupling under merge mining isn't really going to fly.
Instead, respawn SC1 with a premined fund that will cover (exactly: no more no less) the outstanding balance of the other coins you integrate (weighted by relative value), and setup a public claim process whereby the holders of I*C will be granted the corresponding amount of SC1 upon provable destruction of their I*C.

Christ what is it with you people and the love of the god damn pre-mine anyways all it ever does it cause one big old pile of BS with never ending back and forth about you said or did this or that.
Premine is nothing but a state. Are you having a stance against a state?
I am not a proponent of premining for the sake of it, but I do not reject it blindly as a state just because some people abused it for their own profit in the past.
Perhaps you can read a couple words further into my proposal before switching into reactive mode.

Screw that shit what you suggest here in this post is just crazy if the I*C coins are going to be exchanged for SC on a pre-mine then those chains should be killed off then not kept alive and go on with the SC alone as is with fixes.
I do not have any personal opinion as of whether these coins merit to survive.
OP mentions that he wants to consolidate them in a hope that doing so will allow their revival.
The rationale behind is quite obviously to start with a larger user base by leveraging on the vested interest of the stake holders of these three coins.
Only, the plan of using merge mining is naive. Merge mining 3 worthless coins together is not going to do the trick.
Why would you merge mine 3 dead coins if you have already given up mining any of them at all?

On the other hand, SC1 is an interesting carrier of value on which I*C's can cling to recover.
By allowing SC1 users that adopted SC2 to double spend their old coins in the SC1 chain, you are set to gain traction and undermine their exclusive loyalty to SC2.
For I*C user, the incentive is the opportunity of switching their dead coins into a more popular blockchain.
This would finish to kill the original I*C and give enough momentum to SC1 to start becoming a problem for SC2.

Everyone knows the history of these chains and the coins that are already out there if that is not acceptable to them well then don't mine and use them simple as that fix the problems with the exploits and let em go if people want to use it/them then fine if not they die like they should. DISCLOSURE I have ~200 SC, ~2500 IXC, ~25,000 I0C.
I there are people willing to play Frankenstein with dead coins, that should give you a hint that these coins are not completely dead.
They are a pool of unsatisfied expectations that can be tapped into to gain momentum.
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October 28, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
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Why revive multiple coins I0C/IXC/SC1? Why spreading the buying potential on 3 different coins? (Because if nobody buys the coins they are useless) Why not just 1 coin: SolidCoinPro?  Smiley So at the end for GPU there would be mamma BTC, ugly NMC, fresh SC1, and for CPU the fair LTC and the disturbing SC2 (I suppose that GG, TBX and FBX are going to die)  Smiley
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October 29, 2011, 01:42:58 AM
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Even tho killing sc2 (toppling the empire known as realsolid) sounds like a great idea, bringing back ix/i0 is not the answer as they are dead chains with 0 devs supporting them. Im still holding onto 10k i0c just in case but i'm not holding my breath.

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October 31, 2011, 07:14:42 AM
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Any updates? Should I start mining IXcoin / i0coin already? Tongue
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October 31, 2011, 10:20:50 PM
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io coin seems to take ixcoin source, make a couple line tweaks and release it.  I think nasakioto might be working on ixcoin, don't know as the ixcoin.org site is down and he has not posted here in two weeks.  He might be mining before the announcement or just given up.
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io coin seems to take ixcoin source, make a couple line tweaks and release it.  I think nasakioto might be working on ixcoin, don't know as the ixcoin.org site is down and he has not posted here in two weeks.  He might be mining before the announcement or just given up.

I'm still around. Just having some server issues with ixcoin.org but it should be back up soon.

I'd prefer to go the merged mining route like namecoin with Bitcoin as the primary chain. I still need to look into this in further detail. If someone else has the time inclination and wants to port merged mining to the current ixcoin client, I would be happy to award 5K IXC from the 10K coding bounty.

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November 03, 2011, 04:47:57 AM
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If we are going to go head to head with ShortBus Coin 2.01, then we clearly need loud-mouthed, grating fanboys, who love to post.

As an early adopter of both i0 and iX I would be delighted to put my hat in the ring to help with the obnoxious fanboy aspect of relentless promotion. And since I rarely use irc, you can ban/unban/ban me at will without any repercussions.

And I will throw some Iraqi dinars and Brazilian cruzeros in for the logo contest bounty, because if we are going to resurrect near-necrocoins, we ought to deal with a good old fashioned hyper-inflated dead currency too.
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November 03, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
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I'm still around. Just having some server issues with ixcoin.org but it should be back up soon.

I'd prefer to go the merged mining route like namecoin with Bitcoin as the primary chain. I still need to look into this in further detail. If someone else has the time inclination and wants to port merged mining to the current ixcoin client, I would be happy to award 5K IXC from the 10K coding bounty.
Anybody can mine 5K Ixcoins in a matter of hours at current difficulty.  You might have to sweeten the deal with more Ixcoins than that.

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Any news on this merged mining?
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